BobGuides - Veteran Strategy Maps

[Schobbob]

To the guide users, the thread starter hasn't updated the map to take into acount
the new pathings of the general. Your general may be intercepted and blocks may
not work

When thread starter comes back and starts update map(s) to new pathfinding system,
this message can deleted.


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Killste Forum Moderator



Hi Guys!
Greetings from Germany :)

I have created Veteran Strategy Maps for most Adventures, most of them involving Blocks, but the Blocks are set up in way that they are easy to execute. For the more complex Strategies I have recorded Video demonstrations of full Playthroughs to show how exactly everything works.

I decided to create English Version of all my Strategy Maps as well, you can find them at bobguides-en.blogspot.com or via the directlinks below.


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Bandit Nest 250 (http://bobguides-en.blogspot.de/p/bandit-nest-250.html)
Bandit Nest Video Demonstration (http://youtu.be/5u4SgKHYxCk)

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Bounty Hunter (http://bobguides-en.blogspot.de/p/bounty-hunter.html)

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EC-Matches 250 (http://bobguides-en.blogspot.de/p/ec-matches-250.html)

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Horseback 250 (http://bobguides-en.blogspot.de/p/horseback.html)
Horseback Video Demonstration (http://www.blogger.com/%20http://youtu.be/1dhFjzhQu-s)

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Island of the Pirates 250 (http://bobguides-en.blogspot.de/p/island-of-pirates-250.html)

Video Demonstrations
Block 1 (http://youtu.be/uLFTDFffB40)
Block 2 (http://youtu.be/FEhggseAZnI)
Full Playthrough (http://youtu.be/f_kh4N5Ii-s)

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Motherly Love 250 (http://bobguides-en.blogspot.de/p/motherly-love-250.html)

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Old Friends 250 (http://bobguides-en.blogspot.de/p/old-friends-250.html)

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Outlaws 250 (http://bobguides-en.blogspot.de/p/outlaws-250.html)
Outlaws Video Demonstration (http://youtu.be/e6OQ7S0uPuI)

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Sons of the Veld 250 (http://bobguides-en.blogspot.de/p/sons-of-veld-250.html)
Sons of the Veld Video Demonstration (http://youtu.be/hx1wYS43fr4)

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Stealing from the Rich 250 (http://bobguides-en.blogspot.de/p/stealing-from-rich-250.html)

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The Black Knights 250 (http://bobguides-en.blogspot.de/p/black-knights-250.html)

Video Demonstrations
Block 1 (http://youtu.be/uhOa0dZe_Zg)
Block 2 (http://youtu.be/LmqXSjGI324)
Full Playthrough (http://youtu.be/vAtsIZzFnU0)

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The Dark Brotherhood 250 (http://bobguides-en.blogspot.de/p/dark-brotherhood-250.html)

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The Dark Priests 250 (http://bobguides-en.blogspot.de/p/dark-priests-250.html)
The Dark Priests Video Demonstration (Full) (http://youtu.be/sNbztHwO17s)
The Dark Priests Video Demonstration (Short) (http://youtu.be/g9g_vO4WVV8)

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The Nords 250 (http://bobguides-en.blogspot.de/p/nords-250.html)

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Traitors 250 (http://bobguides-en.blogspot.de/p/traitors-250.html)
Traitors Video Demonstration (http://youtu.be/Pg2Dh7HXyyE)

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Victor the Vicious 250 (http://bobguides-en.blogspot.de/p/victor-vicious-250.html)
Victor the Vicious Video Demonstration (http://youtu.be/3IikOnD4ZWE)

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Witch of the Swamp 250 (http://bobguides-en.blogspot.de/p/witch-of-swamp-250.html)
Witch of the Swamp Video Demonstration (Full) (http://youtu.be/DPTgHSmFI7k)
Witch of the Swamp Video Demonstration (Short) (http://youtu.be/NjaScSuNSQA)


I hope you like my Maps, please leave Comments and Feedback.

Enjoy :)

[hades8840]

i have to admit i use ur guides from ur blogsite on pretty much all adventures i do did lose 3 generals recently testing out traitors the 1 recruit blocks didnt work for me .. but think was more lag and cause the fight is over quickly

[Andreen]

Thanks for translating them, I've used yours now and then and this will ease up on the headache from guessing german words

[NicePuppy]

thank you dude

[Schobbob]

I cleaned up the EC-Icon a bit to be more in line with the other icons.


i have to admit i use ur guides from ur blogsite on pretty much all adventures i do did lose 3 generals recently testing out traitors the 1 recruit blocks didnt work for me .. but think was more lag and cause the fight is over quickly

Yea unfortunately Blocks can fail if Servers are really slow and Generals leave the Garrisons with a delay, best thing you can do is to watch the Generals closely to make sure they dont come out delayed.


Thanks for translating them, I've used yours now and then and this will ease up on the headache from guessing german words

That was my plan :D


thank you dude

You're Welcome :)

[dnarag1m]

Hi,

Good to see another guide maker on the forums active :) However I would like to say after checking up a few setups for camps that were better than my own, I do notice that your quality is not quite up to our standards - for example, in Old Friends you list camp 1 as "58R / 192s" while this can lead up to loss of 3s. This seems to be typical among german mapmakers somehow - most of the maps I see list very optimistic setups and losses, that usually when run through the simulators more than 1000 times result in loss of cavalry, soldiers, or even xbowmen.

What simulator do you guys use, and how many repeats do you do as minimum ?

[WodzWielkiBuc]

Cool but films are 30min+, they are too long. Cut them or mark where is what done.

[Schobbob]

Hi,

Good to see another guide maker on the forums active :) However I would like to say after checking up a few setups for camps that were better than my own, I do notice that your quality is not quite up to our standards - for example, in Old Friends you list camp 1 as "58R / 192s" while this can lead up to loss of 3s. This seems to be typical among german mapmakers somehow - most of the maps I see list very optimistic setups and losses, that usually when run through the simulators more than 1000 times result in loss of cavalry, soldiers, or even xbowmen.

What simulator do you guys use, and how many repeats do you do as minimum ?

I usually simulate everything 10000x or more, but you're right that setup for this camp is not optimal and I wasn't aware of that. I will change that soon.

Edit: I fixed it quickly, should be fine now. In any way I recommend blocking the first Camp, that way you only lose 1R :)


Cool but films are 30min+, they are too long. Cut them or mark where is what done.

I could make the videos without showing battle reports, that would cut down the length quite a bit. I keep that in mind for later.

[Schobbob]

Added 2 new Video Demonstrations (http://bobguides-en.blogspot.de/2012/05/sons-of-veld-and-bandit-nest-video.html)

Sons of the Veld Video Demonstration (http://youtu.be/hx1wYS43fr4)
Bandit Nest Video Demonstration (http://youtu.be/5u4SgKHYxCk)

[Nukar]

ugh you just gave me a lot of work ...
Cheers for them all schobbob :)

[Schobbob]

The Black Knights Strategy Map released (http://bobguides-en.blogspot.de/2012/05/black-knights-map-released.html)

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The Black Knights 250 (http://bobguides-en.blogspot.de/p/black-knights-250.html)

Also added Video Demonstrations
Block 1 (http://youtu.be/uhOa0dZe_Zg)
Block 2 (http://youtu.be/LmqXSjGI324)
Full Playthrough (http://youtu.be/vAtsIZzFnU0)

[Schobbob]

Updated the Maps "Island of the Pirates" and "The Black Knights"
Added Videos for each individual Block for Island of the Pirates.
Block 1 (http://youtu.be/uLFTDFffB40)
Block 2 (http://youtu.be/FEhggseAZnI)

[hades8840]

the outlaws map is misleading the attacks 1-4 show 250 units attacking yet the location of the camp the general leaves from i assume is for normal general as its used in blocks for camp 5 and 10



i did outlaws 3 times last day or so all blocks work great except on the last adventure the 1 recruit block failed but all the important ones worked a treat.. must admit heart was in mouth everytime cause of the cost if they failed but very pleased they work

[IcewindPedro]

Your maps are the best, awesome work!

[SQing]

Best guide around now, beside my favourite SiDV's. I've been looking for Outlaws block guide since long ago. I'm very happy when I found your guide. Appreciate your work, keep it up :)

[IcewindPedro]

My second block got killed off in Pirates, so I moved the attacking general two spaces to the left and it hasn't failed me since:)



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[Dragons_Breath]

Excellent work thank you, keep at it!

[aklbr]

The castle block timing (in traitors) is off I would say as the blocking fight ends too early and the main attack comes out of the castle for intercept, sid's position worked for me for the first wave and that is a couple of squares towards south-west compared to yours; unfortunately 2nd wave has timing off due to a nice change in the game that lets decorative objects in conquered sectors. Comments or alternative position anyone?

Later edit:
I looked at some more positions for blocks and a couple of videos and I think the timing is consistently off - the block leaves too early. For traitors, at the castle, 2nd wave, worked by moving both camps 1 square SW to accommodate the decorative object.

[Debsterito]

Camp 2, stealing from the rich, lost 15 soldiers! That can't be a right setting.

[naikou]

Just started to do adventures, and I used your guides. Very nice job!

tyvm :)

[ROLANDHOLLANDER]

cool , nice work on the guides bob very helpfull

[IlluP]

Have you updated maps and blocks with new pathing system?

[Ducos73]

great work, pirates second block isnt working well and video shows a different position for same block, pls edit

[Kavoan]

The blocks on Outlaws dont work any longer. They have, for somereson I dont understand, change the patch.

[gorick]

They just messed up some people great work instead of improve some new adventures and fixed some adventures death : loot ratio normally :(

[Kavoan]

Its no fun anylonger. I lose 170 longbows, 310 cavs and some R and S only becures for a chang who have no points!

[Eliseu]

First : thanks for your work !
IMO your guides are the best for blocks,never failing,lag and idiot proof,they are great !

I really hope you'll find the time to remake them...

[Yuzada]

Agree on last post. Your maps are great. Camp setups and blocks are awesome. Not necessary allways use same troops, but using your maps, most of the adves.

Like sayd, hope you´ll find time to remake them.

[BamBamBam]

hey guys, i have een wanting to use the bob guides on adventures rather than rely on other people coming out with new guides. I have done Witch of the swamp, Dark priests, Old Friends and Island of the pirates.

Bobs guides on island of the pirates, blocks and all, work fine. Witch also works fine; although i dont use the block cos i skip the bandit leaders, and use a 2 waves on the witch tower. Old friends, with the block, work fine also. Dark Priests (short version) works fine, note on the way to the bone church, the pathing system has changed: the general will get intercepted by the forest just before the entrance to the bone church area... it consists of 50 wolves, so i lost 2R extra on the short version of Dark Priests, blocks for me are untested because i only do the short version.

hope this is of use, ill probably post any other adventures i do following his guides to see if they are still valid.

[Dragons_Breath]

Your guides are the best for blocks and I always use them so Thank you.

I've just done Horseback and wanted to let you know what doesn't work because of the pathing system.
I had to reposition for attack 3 as the swords show him walking way to near the camp on the right = further back and down to left so no major problem.
You can not get to 6 without being 'distracted' dragged into the camp on the right! (I tried Mimoris block from her new map and it didn't work but I think i was too eager so will retry in 4 hours;( )
The block/attack 8/9 doesn't work anymore either grrrrr the fights over too quickly -(I will try Mimoris asap)

Hope it helps Bob, please say you are redoing them please

[Settled]

I am finding the same thing, although I have found a new position for the camp3 attack.
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I have also found a new position for block 8 that works (the old is on the left, the new position on the right)
http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/8048/horsebackcamp8newpositi.png
You need to block the camp under leader 7 now. I saw general positions for that in another thread, will try it later.

[Settled]

Traitors works as is with the new paths.

[WodzWielkiBuc]

Is it only my feeling that now it's much harder to block??

[ehless]

Hi.

Are these guides updated for new pathfinding?

[Killste]

Ehless, following guides aren't updated for new pathfinding

BobGuides - Veteran Strategy Maps
[FWB] Hasmirs's adventure blog for Veteran fighters
[kaos] adventure guides - Veteran General & Xbows
SidV's adventure journal

Ps. Deleted your other (same) message to another thread, cause you can see all informations here

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Killste Forum Moderator

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[IvailoII]

Very good guides :-) and it is good to have an alternative to Belissimas 250 general with lvl36. Thank you!

[Fight]

Still like your SFTR guide Bob