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I just want to warn everyone about player SAINAS.He spoilt my trades twice by searcing my trade offers and then sending my exact same offer to me which you get via mail that is identical to one you get when someone accepts your offer and he took my gold coins.I'm not sure if that's considered cheating but surely new players like myself can't be happy about these things
kick him from your friends list. then he wont be able to do so.
then add him to your ignore list.
And always check before you select accept
ofcourse,but surely new players have to be warned.There is no way they can know,and udging by his city i'm not the first one he mugged
Well all i can do is tell you to mail support so they can keep track of him... but doubt they will be able to do much.
King_PapiChulo
22.07.12, 08:01
you should have read what the mail was about before accepting, its not cheating you just wasn't paying attention...
@King_P
Sending random mails to trick ppl into accepting useless trades in fact is NOT OK.
It is the same as if you leave your backdoor open and someone robs your house. Its still not ok.
King_PapiChulo
22.07.12, 08:08
thats where you check and lock the door, he should have checked the mail 1st and read it before accepting, the guy clearly DID NOT click the mouse for him, he clicked accept him self.
@King_P.
Its same as fishing, scamming etc. Sure the guy needs to check. but the sender is still to blame.
King_PapiChulo
22.07.12, 08:21
both to blame* ;)
It's not OK but at the same time always check what you're accepting. Either way it's a pretty good indictment of why you just do not random add 'friends'
WylieQuinn
26.07.12, 06:05
Either way it's a pretty good indictment of why you just do not random add 'friends'
^ THIS (except I'm choosing to believe Cully meant "indication")
Baldrianox
26.07.12, 10:25
thats where you check and lock the door, he should have checked the mail 1st and read it before accepting, the guy clearly DID NOT click the mouse for him, he clicked accept him self.
Its called Cons and last I looked it was illigal anywhere. So if a guy con your parents for every dime they have you would just say, hey its their own fault?
Why would you defend it? his purpose is to just fool someone, basically to cheat him. On purpose going after to con and cheat other kids?
You might wanna look at yourself too while you are at it. :)
thats where you check and lock the door, he should have checked the mail 1st and read it before accepting, the guy clearly DID NOT click the mouse for him, he clicked accept him self.
not everyone has a whole day nor the time to read every detail.There's a lot of kids and new players who just don't understand or pay enough attention but that certainly doesn't excuse these cheaters.They should be banned and your stance in this can only mean 1 thing
Lol, have this guy on friends list too, but havent seen any mails from him.
not everyone has a whole day nor the time to read every detail.There's a lot of kids and new players who just don't understand or pay enough attention but that certainly doesn't excuse these cheaters.They should be banned and your stance in this can only mean 1 thing
It's about time people started accepting responsability for their own actions instead of asking for the authorities to hold their hand everywhere they go.
I realy do not understand how you can say that a deliberate attempt to scam is ok, and the mistake to accept is to blame.
The one obviously tries to trick/ scam/ cheat, while the other makes a simple error...
Anyway as said before. Do not simply accept every friendrequest.
It's about time people started accepting responsability for their own actions instead of asking for the authorities to hold their hand everywhere they go.
what responsability,i admited my own mistake and i didnt ask anything to be given back to me but this kind of cheating needs to stop.END OF STORY
A scammer is a scammer despite what or how he did it, or what the receiving person should have done.
This sort of behavior doesn't belong in ANY game least of all a game that is set so very young players can play.
Certainly report this sort of behavior and hopefully BB will stamp down very hard on it.
the problem from BB's point of view will always be incomplete information
You can not say for certain that a trade of a stack of gold ore for 1 fish is a scam, a gift, result of an auction or a cheat. To expect them to investigate every single instance where people complain will result in a lot of inconclusive situations and a lot of he said, you said with no clear resultution, even with logfiles. Banning people based on incomplete or inconclusive information will have worse reprecussions than telling people to be aware and beware of all transactions.
Only thing you can really hope for is a more robust tradesystem to avoid the need for samable/cheatable transactions which would be the following:
1) Make some shop gifted items tradable, mostly refills (i can see the business reason to not want non consumables to be tradable)
2 Have bigget money transactons possible- the 400 limit makes trading in some items dependant on (needless) trust. Transactions of adventures usually are bigger than 400
3) Have an option to invite people to an adventure spot upon condition of payment (so accepting the invitation would also remove an agreed upon amount of resources)
stuff like voucher sales etc is probably too much to ask for a more robust system and would be an out of game resource anyway to be used so would be irrealistic to have an in game solution
BB_Azariel
30.07.12, 12:29
the problem from BB's point of view will always be incomplete information
You can not say for certain that a trade of a stack of gold ore for 1 fish is a scam, a gift, result of an auction or a cheat. To expect them to investigate every single instance where people complain will result in a lot of inconclusive situations and a lot of he said, you said with no clear resultution, even with logfiles. Banning people based on incomplete or inconclusive information will have worse reprecussions than telling people to be aware and beware of all transactions.
Quite right!
BB cannot ban people in this situation as it would require much too much work on our side to prove (or not) that the trade was a scam.
Moreover, people can only "scam" you if they are in your friends list... We assume you know who your "friends" are and trust them when they send you a trade request. After that it's up to you to 1) not accept the person as a friend when he isn't, and 2) check the message before agreeing to the trade. Checking the trade will take you roughly 3 seconds and can save you lots of future disappointment.
Nevertheless, I have added a request on my weekly reports asking BB to modify the message people get when receiving a trade request. I asked that they make the distinction between a regular trade request and a "friend's" trade request is easier to spot.
I don't think this will be done any time soon... And will probably never take place if the new trade system is implemented on time, as this new feature should end these scams all together.
Hope this clears things up a bit!
BB_Azariel
Nevertheless, I have added a request on my weekly reports asking BB to modify the message people get when receiving a trade request. I asked that they make the distinction between a regular trade request and a "friend's" trade request is easier to spot.
I don't think this will be done any time soon... And will probably never take place if the new trade system is implemented on time, as this new feature should end these scams all together.
nice one!
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