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FYI the full questchain from the polish server for the next crisis quest "The Fallen Army": LINK (http://translate.google.de/translate?hl=ru&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fosettlers.ru%2Fquests%2Fcrisis%2Fth e-fallen-army)
Respekt to the guys there :) good job!
I used the google autotranslate from russia into english, so maybe some translation errors could be... But i think the most should be correct translated and give us a good overview what we will get.
For FEEDBACK to the dev's use please the official feedback thread: HERE (http://forum.thesettlersonline.com/threads/23981-Feedback-The-Fallen-Army-info)
Webgreetings,
SidV
BTW: I uploaded 4 screenshots for each lvl group, so you could download and use you'rs easier.
lvl 16-25
http://i43.tinypic.com/2wcflog.png
http://oi43.tinypic.com/2wcflog.jpg
lvl 26-35
http://i44.tinypic.com/300d1f9.png
http://oi44.tinypic.com/300d1f9.jpg
lvl 36-45
http://i41.tinypic.com/a3ilgj.png
http://oi41.tinypic.com/a3ilgj.jpg
lvl 46-50
http://i44.tinypic.com/330cmex.png
http://oi44.tinypic.com/330cmex.jpg
Great but rewards are a bit... disappointing... I was expecting some buildings though gems are always welcome. That gen buff recovery is not really that important..
Seems to be some icons missing: the "perseverence" subquest in the three upper chains...
SettlerPiter
21.05.13, 10:45
* Russian server :P
Anyway - gj :)
Seems to be some icons missing: the "perseverence" subquest in the three upper chains...
true :) but i think there's only a translation error from google and the 12 could be ignored.
I used the autotranslate from russia into english... So some misstakes could be. But i think finally we have a good overview what we have to do.
CarlStabler
21.05.13, 11:25
very very big dissapointment from BB with this crisis quest chain
Was expecting some buildings for reward like last time
agreed carl... the reward is hardly even worth doin the quest
Thejollyone
21.05.13, 11:40
I await the official server details, but if it is indeed the above, its a huge let-down :(
stefanceltare
21.05.13, 11:57
Thanks for posting this, Sid! Wont bother for this trash
I await the official server details, but if it is indeed the above, its a huge let-down :(
FYI on the german server is the same quest reward and questchain. Crisis started there this morning, here's a screenie from there.
Thejollyone
21.05.13, 12:17
thanks Sid - that really is disappointing then :(
Looks like i will delete it right away, not going to bother giving up all those resources for 250 silly gems.. Looks like the only reason for the quest is to get rid of resources.. Well, if I wanted to throw it away, I would have done it, not going to do all those epic quests and I am really sure I am not throwing away 800 or so coins in buying a lootspot for SE.
Harald_Villraade
21.05.13, 12:49
Is it so disappointing? Looking at it, there is very little in that quest chain I wouldn´t be doing anyway (level 44), only now I get a narrative and some extra rewards for it, plus the carrot 250 gems which is just good enough to make me do it. And finally a reason to do sotv! Calling me ugly (daily quest) almost did it, but not quite... :P
Ok, maybe a little disappointing, then. ;)
Does anyone know the timeframe for this? If it´s one week, I´ll be struggling...
Does anyone know the timeframe for this? If it´s one week, I´ll be struggling...
2 Weeks on the german server (from 21.5. until 4.6. there)
When the official thread is posted, everyone knows its gonna be stormed with dissapointed people...
Good that they have put 2 weeks limit, cos if it was without time, maybe i will think of doing it. But since they put 2 weeks, then my mind will be at ease and i will surely not do it/ It's stupid and needs a loooot of time that i don;t have. Even with 2 months time i wouldn't do it.
Hehe, beat my thread going live, nearly got away with it all ;)
Don't forget you also get rewards for each sub quest! You can expect another guide that Fexno and Iolanthe and I have been working on when the Crisis Quest goes live on our server!
CarlStabler
21.05.13, 16:18
peck ed i wopuldnt bother mate 95% of the server wont be doing it the resources etc you pay out far outweigh the rewards so there is no point in it
No chance I'm doing it. This is quite disappointing.
Don't forget you also get rewards for each sub quest!
Quest payments are worth more than rewards. Quest designers just failed with rewards. Normal generals are kind a useless.
CarlStabler
21.05.13, 17:13
they not normal generals though, even worse medipacks which are even more useless
What a complete let down! I was really looking forward to this - now I'm not gonna bother.
Do BB Devs actually play this game? do they understand how people work the trade system?
I suggest they stop fixing what isn't broken and actually try playing the live game - interacting with real players. Stop trying to get us to play 'their way' and instead start understand how the community does it. Then they'll see what players really want and they'll understand which voices to listen too (hint: it's the seasoned players who have shown loyalty to the game, not [removed])
Jim_B
Please do not insult members of the community.
Sinister-King
noob is not an insult
And my point, was that BB do not seem to listen to high level players. I and many other high lv players I know enjoyed the refreshing change of the last Crisis quest. New challenges, different adventures and a good balance of rewards against losses.
Then lots of lower level players complained it was far too hard. So we get this. The balance is all wrong here and once again in favour of beginner players not the loyal level 50s desperate for some variety.
Ill be trying to do it, I don't really mind these quests other than some of the silly requirements, these wouldn't be possible to do in 2 weeks for most people if the guides were not provided a few weeks in advance, which makes them a bit daft.
What do the medic generals do? Is it a buff which makes a defeated general available to use?
Thejollyone
21.05.13, 18:34
this quest does seem to be a let down :( I can understand peoples frustrations here. BB have said they will look at it all, but they really dont seem to have listened properly.
We dont want it too easy, but we dont want it too hard either. The stuff listed is a kind of insult to the goods paid to receive :( The end rewards are too poor comapred to the last one. So all I will say is mix the bag up with what you have here with what you had last time and some better rewards please?
Im sure we were all maybe expecting at least a couple of floating houses or something as a reward, not 4 x medipacks that are pretty uselss in the norm for level 50s (sure ill get shouted down a bit on that point)
First of all thanks SidV for posting the information!
I'm afraid I was gutted when I read it though. Whereas the last crisis quest was expensive to complete resource wise, the tasks were a lot more enjoyable than the ones described on this thread, and at least the rewards were worth having.
If BB listened to any feedback from the last crisis quest, it must have been that a lot of people thought that it was a thinly veiled excuse for trying to remove resources from the game worlds. Unfortunately the answer seems to have been to just remove the veil completely!
I can understand BB wanting to reduce the amounts of certain resources and I don't have a problem with that BTW... it shakes things up trade wise which in my opinion is good and adds interest to the game! But the tasks and rewards here are massively disappointing to me and I certainly won't be taking part in this one if the chains and rewards described here are the ones we get.
Once again I feel the hand of BB shepherding all of us end game players to the exit door whilst rubbing their hands gleefully at the thought of more server room for new players! I can't fault them from a business perspective... I guess it's a lot easier to concentrate on revenue from new players, than looking after the existing customer base.
Thejollyone
21.05.13, 19:09
well toasty has put it in better words than me, so all agreed :)
The thing im a bit disappointed in here is that this post came well before the official one. And this is now 21/05/2013 20:17 UK time. Would have expected official news faster than this ;)
well toasty has put it in better words than me, so all agreed :)
The thing im a bit disappointed in here is that this post came well before the official one. And this is now 21/05/2013 20:17 UK time. Would have expected official news faster than this ;)
Its only different maintenace days on other settler server. For example last night was on the german server the maintenace and we have here the maintenace on thuesday thats all. And i got there the info, translated it into english (or google) and posted it here ^^ so nothing magical :)
If anyone's interested, my first quest was make 100 Baskets, and give away 500 hw planks.
That emptied half my store of fish, and took 20 hours just to make the baskets!
Looks like the same lack of imagination as before. :(
Hmm, next stage will be for explorers to find e/w logs, any bets that they'll start finding granite for the first time since November?
Then later it's complete SotV or Secluded, guess where I'll be quitting? Still rebuilding from the last 'epic' adv, and that wasn't half as costly as these two, even with a full army that would be over half the time available just grinding out 1 adventure.
Clearly they did not learn from the mistakes of the last Crisis Quest.
We received word of this crisis quest 3 weeks ago, now while we have not known the details until now it was a no brainer to figure out some of the preparation which could be done. Based on the last crisis quest it made sense to start buying certain items if you did not already have them. You can bet now the details are out those items are now going to be more expensive. What is obvious is they did listen to the complaints about 4 winds and have come up with decent set of quest. As always there is going to be a minority who see no need to do the quests. How about this time you stay silent and let the rest of us enjoy it, we are not stupid we know there will always be players who find an event pointless from their point of view.
Sorry Dorotheus are you suggesting that people with a different viewpoint to you should stay silent? That's rather insulting and narrow minded isn't it?!
I'm sure other people who have posted here respect your right to a different opinion, it is a shame that it is evidently not mutual!
Thejollyone
21.05.13, 21:48
Yes Dorotheus we did receive word of this some time ago - but are you mentally attached to BB? I think not, so how would you KNOW what they were going to ask us to do? There is nothing similar to the last, were you actually there? Or is your memory that short?
Yes they have made it simpler in that we don't have to rely on finding stuff, but the resource to reward ratio is pathetic.
Enjoy wasting your resources on this.
As others have already said, same problems as last time about rewards, although the 'random' element seems to have largely been removed. We're expected to put in a massive investment of resources for comparatively poor rewards. Like most others I will simply be cancelling the quest chain and not wasting many hours/days chasing after a paltry 250 gems, which I can get just by logging on for a few weeks! LOL
To highlight, just look at the first quest I would have to do (46-50 lvl) - pay 5,000 saltpetre to get a reward of 400 exotic logs! Madness. Where will everyone get 5,000 saltpetre from?! And check out that one for paying 10,000 exotic logs to get just 100 map frags and 100 coins. Proper bonkers. I look at the rewards available and it's clear that my time will be more profitably spent trading and adventuring instead of doing the quest chain. For instance, exotic wood logs currently trading at about 200 coins for 1,000 logs - those 10,000 logs they want could bag me 2,000 coins if I ignore the quest chain.
Sorry BB, but add me to the list who won't be bothering with this one.
I wont be doing this quest your taking more of my resources for rubbish rewards again i think its time to delete this game
I dont think that anyone has mentioned this yet but... 250 gems... Starting from June, if what BB said is gonna happen, we are gonna start getting 100 gems per 7 day login so 3 weeks can get us easily those 250 gems with just logging in so...
Come on, you are still on time to change these rewards BB!!!!!
Steven_2012
22.05.13, 07:16
If the rewards were a little better then i think alot more people will do it.
its already live on some servers the rewards wont be altered now
Yes it looks like a heap of effort for nothing. I need a big update soon, I am losing interest.
trunkeygold
22.05.13, 09:02
How stupid do they think we players are to give us this rubbish. What a waste of time. If it isn't bad enough getting to level 50 and finding the rewards for quests are experience points how useless.
Drunken_Abbott
22.05.13, 09:04
Spectacular fail, the only thing wrong with 4 winds was the difficulty in getting granite from follow up adventures given that they cant be bought from the shop there was too much a chance you would not succeed regardless of how hard you tried.
The rewards for this quest are truly pathetic, no buildings & half the gems of last time. many players found the rewards ratio from 4 winds to be borderline, well this really takes the biscuit. [ Censored ]
I am out of protest at its utter stupidity not doing this quest.
FallenMoon
22.05.13, 10:05
Wait wait wait wait. I have to make SE adventure, pay 10k exo logs, produce 250 settlers ( with provision house ) and others quest for what ? For 250 gems ? No one will do it ( 46-50 lv )
i will do it (lvl 49) just because its something to do
if no one does it they might take the hint that is them thats in crisis
i will not start it and others that i have chatted with think the same i still have the medi pack from when i started
djnelson99
22.05.13, 10:47
Disappointing... all I have to say.
Ok, we get that these quests are a way to deflate market and everything but can you AT LEAST add a complimentary decoration reward at the end? Just for those who bother enough to do it? I don't see any reason not to.
Because right now, let's face it, it's quite foolish to even consider it... A "challenge" needs to have more of a reward than "hey, I was foolish enough to do it".
/cents
Yperellanios
22.05.13, 11:08
Yeah I'm 48 level and I'm not doing it. I don't know what you people making this quest are thinking but the rewards are definitely not worth all this trouble. I mean seriously... medi packs? I'm gonna waste a ton of resources and units/consumables just to get a few gems and medi packs? Get real please...
Sorry BB, but add me to the list who won't be bothering with this one.
Ditto.
The reasons are obvious. Level 50, NorthIsle economy, outlay vs rewards.
I was rather looking forward to this quest too :(
Geoffus1978
22.05.13, 11:47
loads of resources for minimal reward, not even worth doing for fun...
Im not doing this crisis quest why dose every event take our resources ? I think who ever comes up with this rubbish is just lazy make dventures or something and dont just throw them together like the lost skull probaly put together during lunch break no effort or taught what so ever BB spend there time just finding ways to rip us off and if they dont like this then delete my account i could care less .
Geoffus1978
22.05.13, 11:52
I was actually looking forward to this to re-awaken interest in the game, not much of a draw there at all...I can feel my interest waning already, nowt to look forward to, lvl 50 blocked off, so looks like end game.
Im lvl 47 and i think most high lvl players are fed up of the rubbish and no point in complaining they only look at positive feed back and ignore any negative replys
chynjihtsuey
22.05.13, 12:05
i must say this is design by fallen BB
.......nothing new
...... nothing fun
..... take it or leave it
....if that is the best BB can do
...i am sure some of us will leave soon
To finish only Sons of the Veld adventure in chain quest for level 36-46 you need to spend more resources that you can buy for 500 granite which is ultimate reward. What is the point?!
Salem_Warrior_1
22.05.13, 12:49
i will not be bothering using my resorses for such little reward..why do i need medi packs i cant use, and the est is poo
Benedicter
22.05.13, 12:53
2 of the things people complained on the previous crisis quest were the 'get granite from SA/BN/OF' requirement and the use of the expert buildings (at least regarding the 46-50 bracket).
If I understood it right that we need to produce 50 damascene swords (at the 5th quest in the chain) seems like they didnt learn their lesson.
So now they eliminated the granite issue but still want to force us build those useless expert buildings. They can do crisis quests and regular quests based on those buildings but the same problem remains, its just not worth to build them, simple as that.
The problem is based on a flaw in the basic economy of the game. The developers didn't think that people will rely (almost) only on recruits and didn't expect that people will train crossbowmen, elite soldiers and cannoneers usually one time only in their play run (and causing the value of crossbows, damascene swords and cannons and their materials like titanium ore and saltpeter to be very low because of that).
So how do BB handle this issue?
Instead of lowering the building cost of those expert buildings or any other simple solution that handle this basic flaw, they prefer to not touch the economy of the game at all and give some weak bandages every other time, hoping that people will eventually build those buildings.
Sorry but spending a building licence and 4000 granite + 4000 ewp on a building that i wont use at all is not going to happen.
Hello, I checked with this document from the German servers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=0AlyOA4iw9ki0dHpndDFNUW9aX1BUamk5MWhlRmhTRF E&f=true&noheader=false&gid=1
A few corrections for lvl36-45:
1. Produce 100 baskets and pay 5000 pinewood planks (reward: 200 exotic wood logs)
2. Use explorer long search to find 20 exotic wood logs and sell 10000 resources (reward: 100 gold coin)
3. Produce 350 sausages and buff friends with 100 baskets (reward: 100 map fragments)
4. Complete two random adventures and buy 10000 resources (reward: 500 iron ore)
5. Produce 100 steel swords and receive 150 random buffs (reward: 1000 brew, 100 gold coin)
6. Own 200 cavalry and pay 8000 marble (reward: 80 map fragments, 80 gold coin)
7. Complete Sons of the Veld adventure and own 1000 horses (reward: 500 sausages)
8. Produce 230 settlers (not via provision house! - Village school/love potion and such only) and own 1000 military units (reward: 300 iron ore)
9. Produce 200 iron bars and own 8 adventures (reward: 200 bronze swords, 40 settlers)
10. Compete 4 adventures and pay 8000 coal (reward: 500 granite, 250 gems and 3 medpacks)
Cheers
Mortallicus
22.05.13, 13:19
I love the film kelly's heroes,
Oddball: Why don't you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don't you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don't you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?
Moriarty: Bull (not a direct quote lol)
FallenMoon
22.05.13, 13:27
I understand BB added in quest list for high lvl SOTV and SE adventures ( for 3 people you can share that and reduce the army lost ) but for this reward no one move any finger.
Hello, I checked with this document from the German servers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=0AlyOA4iw9ki0dHpndDFNUW9aX1BUamk5MWhlRmhTRF E&f=true&noheader=false&gid=1
A few corrections for lvl36-45:
1. Produce 100 baskets and pay 5000 pinewood planks (reward: 200 exotic wood logs)
2. Use explorer long search to find 20 exotic wood logs and sell 10000 resources (reward: 100 gold coin)
3. Produce 350 sausages and buff friends with 100 baskets (reward: 100 map fragments)
4. Complete two random adventures and buy 10000 resources (reward: 500 iron ore)
5. Produce 100 steel swords and receive 150 random buffs (reward: 1000 brew, 100 gold coin)
6. Own 200 cavalry and pay 8000 marble (reward: 80 map fragments, 80 gold coin)
7. Complete Sons of the Veld adventure and own 1000 horses (reward: 500 sausages)
8. Produce 230 settlers (not via provision house! - Village school/love potion and such only) and own 1000 military units (reward: 300 iron ore)
9. Produce 200 iron bars and own 8 adventures (reward: 200 bronze swords, 40 settlers)
10. Compete 4 adventures and pay 8000 coal (reward: 500 granite, 250 gems and 3 medpacks)
Cheers
Thanks :) for the correct translation but .. its definitally ... 5000 hardwood planks ... not 5000 pinewood in the first questchain.
And the rest are in the sense the same like in the german doc ;)
Webgreetings,
SidV
Mortallicus
22.05.13, 14:01
The rewards are not exciting. But overall they are not bad. I dont mind resources from my island paying for my fun.
I will certainly be doing it and will enjoy it. Thanks BB
I am STUNNED that there is still a random element in the quest chain...
Okay, so first thing I have to do tomorow morning is to delete this rubbish questchain....
I have been thinking, I am playing this game for over an year now, and I am allready for more then half a year waiting for the so many times promised new levels, but all I get instead of these new levels are fail events.... So I thought back to see iff there was in this period 1, just 1 event wich wasnt a big fail and dissapontment...and I am sorry to say... but I cant think up even 1 wich indeed was exiting and fun as BB always promises us.... ( Even the new science system is till now a big dissapointment, as far as I have seen it on the testserver)
I can only agree with those who complained about the worthless rewards, personally I stopped reading the requirements as soon as I noticed they wanted me to produce damascene swords. Off course I wont produce those swords, same like I wont produce cannons or crossbows. Its not my fault you guys start handing out these items as rewards to players who are far away from the level they are able to use them, so by the time the get to that level every one has enough of these weapons. So allmost no one build's these weaponmakers and making a quest for those buildings wont change that...
Already the poll is suggesting that more than 50% of players won't even attempt the quest chain - that's a very clear message to BB that they have messed up... again!
Anyone know what the reaction from the servers where this has gone live is?
I like this game. I've liked Settlers ever since I first reviewed it on the Amiga all those years ago, but BB are seriously trying my patience now. Why is it that they seem incapable of getting an event even close to good? The time is approaching when I may kiss this goodbye - and that's saying something considering the time and money I have put into it.
Must admit the rewards for this quest chain are terrible! they gave 250 gems and more for valentines day! Maybe BB are actually trying to thin the ranks on all servers!
Once again, nothing to appeal to me. 250 gems is nothing compared to what we'll get retroactively when they increase the level rewards, and when we get 100 gems for logging in every week. Medipacks are kind of cool, but probably non-tradeable and actually useless at the higher levels. Guess I'll spend the time twiddling my thumbs waiting for a decent release.
i will do it (lvl 49) just because its something to do
Same here. Im not jumping in happiness, but i will do it since thats a sidestep form same routine adventures.
If I'm not mistaken, as of tomorrow the medipacks will be tradeable, can confirm that tomorrow though I hope!
If I'm not mistaken, as of tomorrow the medipacks will be tradeable, can confirm that tomorrow though I hope!
yeap they are tradeable on the german server ;)
Disappointing... all I have to say. pay 10k exo logs crazy
Thou whined about the luck, as part of the first Crisis Quest, now thou get an easier (boring) Crisis Quest, and thou are still whinning. Go find another game. ;-)
Easier?
More of the same. :(
Suppose it gives me something to do in the meantime. Had hoped for the rewards to be better.
If not a gem building, a unique "Crisis-Event" decoration would have been nice. Just to show you completed the chain..
the award ... sucks . I thing this is the right word to describe it.
Think I'll give it a miss
FranjoTahy
22.05.13, 19:04
Producing buffs, doing adventures, make army... i am doing that every day and now i will get some more rewards for that! Great!
I cant wait tomorow to start.
To buy 20k exotic planks in BB's shop is 15900 gems, yet they expect us to give that away amongst other things just to get a measly 250 gems. You can't make it up. I did Four Winds, I won't be doing this one.
INTELLIGENCE crisis is this quest !!! from the site of BB !! they must pay beter thir programmers !!!
please sack your development guys - get people in who actually play games...
Hello, I checked with this document from the German servers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...er=false&gid=1
A few corrections for lvl36-45:
1. Produce 100 baskets and pay 5000 pinewood planks (reward: 200 exotic wood logs)
2. Use explorer long search to find 20 exotic wood logs and sell 10000 resources (reward: 100 gold coin)
3. Produce 350 sausages and buff friends with 100 baskets (reward: 100 map fragments)
4. Complete two random adventures and buy 10000 resources (reward: 500 iron ore)
5. Produce 100 steel swords and receive 150 random buffs (reward: 1000 brew, 100 gold coin)
6. Own 200 cavalry and pay 8000 marble (reward: 80 map fragments, 80 gold coin)
7. Complete Sons of the Veld adventure and own 1000 horses (reward: 500 sausages)
8. Produce 230 settlers (not via provision house! - Village school/love potion and such only) and own 1000 military units (reward: 300 iron ore)
9. Produce 200 iron bars and own 8 adventures (reward: 200 bronze swords, 40 settlers)
10. Compete 4 adventures and pay 8000 coal (reward: 500 granite, 250 gems and 3 medpacks)
Cheers
Luscious Larili's `stand and deliver ' alternative BB in crysis quest:
1. 200 exotic wood logs = My savage scouts find this amount in three days worth of searching on average. no need to sell any resources
2. 25 baskets gets me 100gc, so I'm 75 baskets in profit from quest 1.
3. pfft I dont need 100mf I have enough adventures ( and mf's ) being brought back by my two explorers, I also I make 500 sausages in 12 hours and have 45k sausages in store
4. 500 iron ore is six hours normal production
5. 1000 brew is seven hours normal production, 100gc from another sale of 25 baskets
6. 80mf, 80gc ( see 2,3 and 5)
7. 500 sausages another 12hours normal production
8. 300 iron ore less than six hours normal production
9. 200 bronze swords 40 settlers ooh please!
10. 500 granite 250 gems 3 medipacks = savage scouts average this granite in six days, 6 weeks logins ( 2.5 in future) 3 medipacks pfft, with seven generals I could walk a spare over just as easy so of no value to me.
Thus playing normally I get everything of value in the `Fallen army quest' in under a week ( apart from the gems) and save:
150 baskets; 5000 pinewood/hardwood planks; buying and selling 10,000 resources; 8000 marble; 1410 recruits and 220 cavalry ( average SotV losses) And as I have done it four times I'm not interested in it anymore. ( I've got plenty to sell though ;) ) ; and 8000 coal.
Will I be doing the fallen army ? NO, its neither challenging or has value in rewards. ( A special building is a must for these quests to catch the attention of veteran players)
Larili wrote: 13.03.13 in Four winds suvey:
( please BB include a SOTV next time around I have a stack of them already, 500 gc a piece, anyone? )
Who says BB doesn't read the forum? I'll hang my head in shame for perhaps giving them the idea.:o
Many thanx to SidV for the info.....
looks like a good quest but the rewards are realy really disapointing!!!!! Realy? :(:(:(:(:(
for these rewards its hardly worth the effort. might skip it all toghether. I see no gain to my island for spending a week on this..
sorry if my honesty insults anyone and my appologies to devs that spend allot of time preparing it.
My 2 cents (put unhappy face in here)
Stariqkech
22.05.13, 22:20
PAY 10 000 Exo Wood for only 100 coins 100 maps ?!? What a joke ??
Do 50 dswords ?!? - no way to make a weaponsmith only for this stupid reward of 250 gems
Well I will skip it as I did last time with the 500 gems and the watermill ... so bad and a joke :(
BattleOverlord
22.05.13, 23:30
For 250 gems?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x74TkNlP6tc
CarlStabler
22.05.13, 23:54
thats cause you are a quest addict dorkan lol ;-)
awful. worse than 4 winds. devs trying to tell this is a suitable CRISIS quest?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0
Triple settlers spawnrate and game will be thrice as fun, but i suppose you want us to cover island in farms/mills/bakeries/wells. Amount of useless buildings should be alarming and call for some hefty rebalancing. Apparently though, producing vast amounts of irrelevant content is much more important.
I spent today deleting my buildings and giving them away special events are suppose to be about us getting resources and rewards not giving them away no other game dose this they add adventures and missions what do people do at BB all day drink coffe and play proper games on facebook maybe then during lunch break make adventures like lost skull a whole 5 minutes to think of that one for a start anyway dont care another high lvl account that fed up with this junk
I hope this is not the special summer event!
(off topic apologies) Welcome back to the game, SidV! I really appreciated your guides when I started out playing.
after looking i wont bother with this one ether i am not paying 5000 saltpeter and 10000 exotic logs for such worthless reward i only got into the highest level 4 days ago
Nettopp_naa
23.05.13, 04:32
Hi all.
New quest chain, new possibilities and new disappointment.
Starting the quest with having to produce a 100 Irmas is OK, no problems there, as I'm already producing 150 a day, but paying 5k of saltpeter? with a reward of 400 Exowood planks!
You gotta be kidding.
A nice reward would have been a choice of three or four items.
A gem mine, a endless copper mine or 20k of gems.
this should balance the expenditure of resources used, and give a nice outcome :)
PS. where are the "delete button for this"
Nettopp_naa
23.05.13, 04:37
very very big dissapointment from BB with this crisis quest chain
+1
It's really nice that they seem to have removed the most egregious issues with the last crisis quest - the odd inclusion of having to do really expensive quests a random number of times. Too bad the rewards are so lacklustre this time around.
Still a step in the right direction. I'm not sure if I'll end up doing this. If I do, it'll just be for the sake of doing something.
Garbage .. again ..... will BB ever learn?
i love the new crisis quest :) thanks BB ... (screenie of the last 10 mins)
http://oi43.tinypic.com/ehyhj8.jpg
This is worst than the last one ...i did the last but this one i'm not gonna do it ...... bad quests BB...too bad !!!
SidV ... + 1 .. 8)
.. and welcome back .. I look forward to your new instructions for adv ..
P.S ..BB .. delete button is missing from the event ...
Thanks for the info sidv,
I'm out of this quest too, but going to help the lower lvl guys get thiers done if I can, 250 gems would probably help them more than me :)
Cheers
Nettopp_naa
23.05.13, 08:54
I love the film kelly's heroes,
Oddball: Why don't you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don't you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don't you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?
Moriarty: Bull (not a direct quote lol)
please sack your development guys - get people in who actually play games...
rolf
and agreee =)
Why I chose to start doing the crisis quest on the Newfoundland server:
The Fallen Army - Crisis Quest - In Numbers for lvls 46-50
Reconstitution (15 h.)
Requirements:
Produce at least 150 Aunt Irma's Gift Baskets. (0 gc, produced anyway for regular buffing)
Pay 5000 Salpeter from your storage. (1k gc, based on highest price on trade sheet)
Rewards:
400 Exotic wood planks (80 gc)
What once was lost (24/48 h.)
Requirements:
Earn 30 Granite through the very long treasure search. (0 gc, free search)
Sell at least 20000 resources through trading with other players. (0 gc, trade with friends)
Rewards:
150 Coins (150 gc)
Sharing is caring (24/48 h.)
Requirements:
Produce at least 500 Sausages. (0 gc, produced anyway)
Buff at least 200 of your friends' buildings. (0 gc, buff 150-225 buildings each day)
Rewards:
150 Map fragment (675 gc)
Call to battle (2 h.)
Requirements:
Complete 1 Epic Adventures. (1,75k gc, to buy a BK)
Buy at least 20000 resources. (o gc, trade with friends)
Rewards:
300 Titanium ore (o gc, worth almost nothing)
Selling Lootspots (1,7k gc)
The finest equipment (24 h.)
Requirements:
Produce at least 50 Damascene Swords. (100 gc, loss of materials to produce swords)
Have your friends buff 200 of your buildings! (0 gc, buff 150-225 buildings daily)
Rewards:
1000 Brew (10 gc)
100 Coins (100 gc)
Standing army (0 h.)
Requirements:
Own 250 Military Units of any kind. (0 gc)
Pay 10000 Exotic Wood from your storage. (2k gc)
Rewards:
100 Map fragment (550 gc)
100 Coins (100 gc)
The enemy's scheming (24/48 h.)
Requirements:
Complete the adventure "Secluded Experiments". (2,5k gc, for additional troops normally not used during other adv.)
Own at least 2000 Sausages. (0 gc)
Rewards:
400 Granite (600 gc)
Selling Lootspots (3k gc)
Royal acquisition (24 h.)
Requirements:
Produce at least 250 Settlers. (0 gc)
Have an army of 1800 or more units. (0 gc)
Rewards:
100 Exotic wood (20 gc)
Perseverance (12 h.)
Requirements:
Produce at least 300 Exotic Wood Planks. (0 gc, produced anyway by exotic wood sawmills)
Own at least 12 Adventures. (0 gc)
Rewards:
300 Bronze swords (0 gc)
50 Settlers (0 gc)
Revelation (24/48 h.)
Requirements:
Experience at least 5 new Adventures. (0 gc, play advs anyway)
Pay 5000 Steel from your storage. (1,25k gc)
Rewards:
700 Granite (1050 gc)
250 Gems (1500 gc)
To sum up the costs/benefits:
Total costs: 8700 gc and 7-10 days to complete
Total profit: 9535 gc, 4 medipacks and loot from BK and SE (~3k gc worth)
In all I will enjoy playing the quest chain and make a profit at the end as well :-)
is this real? this is even worst than four wheels quest, daang not playing it. pvp please, im sick of these kind of crap.....
ps. and where is the cancel button???
You seen more NO votes so you removed the cancel quest button still not doing it and still going to cancel joke of a game when i have emptied my Island
Executor959
23.05.13, 11:06
Once,at the time of the last crisis quest I posted here what I think about this ridiculous quests and about the Devs but of course I did put in words that were not permited though those words did translate exactly what they are.
Once more they do another very stupid chain,I'm not insulting anyone here so MODs please do not remove my post!!!
In my opinion I didn't insulte anyone on the last time,I just said what they are,and they are...can't post the same words but they just don't care about players at all,they didn't pay any attention to the posts that their costumers did post here,so what are they???
You seen more NO votes so you removed the cancel quest button still not doing it and still going to cancel joke of a game when i have emptied my Island
Not sure the chain sitting in your quest list does any harm, not sure why anyone would cancel any quest, there is a chance you might complete something just by playing day to day. The first one is a prime example, if you'd rather have 200 Exotic Wood than a big stash of unused Hardwood Planks, why wouldn't you complete it? I know I make loads of Gift Baskets everyday regardless of having this quest or not, and also have a load of hardwood planks.
Even if I didn't want to do the whole chain, don't really see any logic in wanting to "delete" it
Unless I had some kind of OCD maybe and wanted that thing clear!
Pay 5000 salt pepper for 400 Exotic wood which i can add to the ten thousand you take later if i went to shop to buy this stuff it would cost more then 250 gems and medi packs no good to me
And as for having loads of hard wood planks or any thing else for that matter i give to other low lvl players to help them out
What a stupid rewards for such a lot of goods.
But it seems normal at BB.
BB maybe look at this Poll, and see that 67% dont want to play this Quest, so its wasted time, maybe use this time to make +50 levels
Is this what they have come up with to keep level 50 players satisfied and interested think I'll go and watch some paint dry. I'd be quite happy just to continue getting xp from doing adventures or if they let me get to 51 and maybe throw in some extra side quests don't have to keep getting rewards each time I level just let me feel like I'm actually accomplishing something instead of being stuck in a dead end.
most stupid quest ever! please available the option to erase it from my quest book!
Benedicter
23.05.13, 13:21
Even if I didn't want to do the whole chain, don't really see any logic in wanting to "delete" it
Unless I had some kind of OCD maybe and wanted that thing clear!
This
but seems like i'm not the only one :P
anyway it appears that they have learned at least one thing from the previous crisis quest ;)
The finest equipment (24 h.)
Requirements:
Produce at least 50 Damascene Swords. (100 gc, loss of materials to produce swords)
Have your friends buff 200 of your buildings! (0 gc, buff 150-225 buildings daily)
Total costs: 8700 gc and 7-10 days to complete <--- you forgot to add 4k granite+4k ewp+6k tools to build this useless building
Total profit: 9535 gc, 4 medipacks and loot from BK and SE (~3k gc worth) <--- the SE and BK can be done as well by people who don't do the crisis quest or even are not lvl46 so actually regarding the crisis quest +/- balance its 0gc
pay 10,000 exotic wood for 100 map fragments and 100 gold? that's a bit crazy to me.
poorly thought out rewards and requirements.
This poll really doesn't provide a good accurate stats.
Most people who will do it are probably in the low lvl bracket.
You should have 4 different polls for each bracket
Or adjust your poll answers to include the player's level range.
Nettopp_naa
23.05.13, 15:06
This poll really doesn't provide a good accurate stats.
Most people who will do it are probably in the low lvl bracket.
You should have 4 different polls for each bracket
Or adjust your poll answers to include the player's level range.
Dunno, that, I'm lvl 47, got 14 generals, 11 explorers, 5 geologists, has or have had all the special buildings (dama. smith and so fort).
but here is no chance I gonna get me 3634 saltpeter in a forthright, and 5k + of exowood with my explorer finding just around 100 each everyday. And I am not going to buy it, with the next to nothing reward in the end. Maybe if BB would be kind enough to give me my resources back when the quest is finished, an only then, maybe I would consider it.
No hard feelings :)
Seems to be some icons missing: the "perseverence" subquest in the three upper chains...
Those subquests should read 'and own 5 / 8 / 12 adventures'. The numbers are in the wrong place.
Not sure the chain sitting in your quest list does any harm, not sure why anyone would cancel any quest, there is a chance you might complete something just by playing day to day. The first one is a prime example, if you'd rather have 200 Exotic Wood than a big stash of unused Hardwood Planks, why wouldn't you complete it? I know I make loads of Gift Baskets everyday regardless of having this quest or not, and also have a load of hardwood planks.
Even if I didn't want to do the whole chain, don't really see any logic in wanting to "delete" it
Unless I had some kind of OCD maybe and wanted that thing clear!
It's the principle of the thing. And I'm not going to 'accidentally' pay 5k salt by 'playing day to day', so it's useless just sitting there. I'd like to be able to cancel it too.
Thank you very much for providing this guide and taking the trouble to translate to English! I agree with the above comments, the rewards are minimal and simply not worth either the effort or resources. Have fun in the game folks! :)
Not sure the chain sitting in your quest list does any harm, not sure why anyone would cancel any quest, there is a chance you might complete something just by playing day to day. The first one is a prime example, if you'd rather have 200 Exotic Wood than a big stash of unused Hardwood Planks, why wouldn't you complete it? I know I make loads of Gift Baskets everyday regardless of having this quest or not, and also have a load of hardwood planks.
Even if I didn't want to do the whole chain, don't really see any logic in wanting to "delete" it
Unless I had some kind of OCD maybe and wanted that thing clear!
peck_ed I love what you have done with the Forums :)
However please don't try to say I will gather 5000 Salt peter by accident, now i have a quest chain that i could just delete and save me having to scroll past and feel angry disappointed and slightly miffed at the brains behind such a shoddy event.... sorry but this really should not be in the game without a x marks the no thanks.
I am pretty sure I haven't had 10k ewl go through my stocks in total since I started getting them, but I know that all those I get are turned into planks. How could I fulfil that one?
[ Removed ] . the rewards are not worth the time and resources . PASS
No self censorship please,
peck_ed
Why I chose to start doing the crisis quest on the Newfoundland server:
The Fallen Army - Crisis Quest - In Numbers for lvls 46-50
Reconstitution (15 h.)
Requirements:
Produce at least 150 Aunt Irma's Gift Baskets. (0 gc, produced anyway for regular buffing)
Pay 5000 Salpeter from your storage. (1k gc, based on highest price on trade sheet)
Rewards:
400 Exotic wood planks (80 gc)
What once was lost (24/48 h.)
Requirements:
Earn 30 Granite through the very long treasure search. (0 gc, free search)
Sell at least 20000 resources through trading with other players. (0 gc, trade with friends)
Rewards:
150 Coins (150 gc)
Sharing is caring (24/48 h.)
Requirements:
Produce at least 500 Sausages. (0 gc, produced anyway)
Buff at least 200 of your friends' buildings. (0 gc, buff 150-225 buildings each day)
Rewards:
150 Map fragment (675 gc)
Call to battle (2 h.)
Requirements:
Complete 1 Epic Adventures. (1,75k gc, to buy a BK)
Buy at least 20000 resources. (o gc, trade with friends)
Rewards:
300 Titanium ore (o gc, worth almost nothing)
Selling Lootspots (1,7k gc)
The finest equipment (24 h.)
Requirements:
Produce at least 50 Damascene Swords. (100 gc, loss of materials to produce swords)
Have your friends buff 200 of your buildings! (0 gc, buff 150-225 buildings daily)
Rewards:
1000 Brew (10 gc)
100 Coins (100 gc)
Standing army (0 h.)
Requirements:
Own 250 Military Units of any kind. (0 gc)
Pay 10000 Exotic Wood from your storage. (2k gc)
Rewards:
100 Map fragment (550 gc)
100 Coins (100 gc)
The enemy's scheming (24/48 h.)
Requirements:
Complete the adventure "Secluded Experiments". (2,5k gc, for additional troops normally not used during other adv.)
Own at least 2000 Sausages. (0 gc)
Rewards:
400 Granite (600 gc)
Selling Lootspots (3k gc)
Royal acquisition (24 h.)
Requirements:
Produce at least 250 Settlers. (0 gc)
Have an army of 1800 or more units. (0 gc)
Rewards:
100 Exotic wood (20 gc)
Perseverance (12 h.)
Requirements:
Produce at least 300 Exotic Wood Planks. (0 gc, produced anyway by exotic wood sawmills)
Own at least 12 Adventures. (0 gc)
Rewards:
300 Bronze swords (0 gc)
50 Settlers (0 gc)
Revelation (24/48 h.)
Requirements:
Experience at least 5 new Adventures. (0 gc, play advs anyway)
Pay 5000 Steel from your storage. (1,25k gc)
Rewards:
700 Granite (1050 gc)
250 Gems (1500 gc)
To sum up the costs/benefits:
Total costs: 8700 gc and 7-10 days to complete
Total profit: 9535 gc, 4 medipacks and loot from BK and SE (~3k gc worth)
In all I will enjoy playing the quest chain and make a profit at the end as well :-)
+1 for me Shelob81 for a well rounded thought through response.
I for one will be doing the quest purely because there's nothing in it that worries me, I do 90% or what's required anyway and I can easily get the saltpeter anyway- I was trading my other resources, not coins, for it until a friend helped by sending me some . Plus I wont be buying lootspots, I share them with friends so in effect it costs me very little and at least I can contribute to helping BB sink some resources out of the game.
PS - the part that really makes me laugh is everyone complaining about giving away saltpeter when most of them don't have or use the gunpowder hut anyway. Last year people would give the useless stuff away for a fish now they say its to precious ;-)
I agree with fishslice and Shelob81 that the quest is totally doable for someone in the lvl46-50 bracket that already has the necessary buildings and are at the top end of the tier. I don't consider the quest chain particularly challenging for us, and the resources you give up versus what you get means that you don't really gain anything, nor do you loose anything (depending on what you get in your loot...)
SO if you have completed the quest where you need to have a production rate of X amount of is/ss/xb/ds/cannons in 12 hours at lvl 50, there is probably not much effort or resource involved. However, whilst I have the buildings (consider them a waste of space, but have sunk too much granite into them to delete them...), a lot of people do not.
Getting 5k worth of salpetre, not an issue for me, I expect for someone that just reached lvl 46, it would be. You would need salpetre to drop 6 (x800 drop) -17 (x300 drop times from epic adv to get it, depending on which adv you play, and if all you got was salpetre... Then you might have to build the damascene smith, which needs granite and ewp, then get the elogs... That is an awful lot of adventures in a 2 week period. Yes, people can buy lootspots, but don't think a lot would have spare resources to sell after doing the adv necessary to get the elogs and salpetre.
Whilst I do understand that the level brackets have to be put somewhere, and that it always will be harder for those at the lower end of the bracket. I think this quest chain is tremendously difficult for those at the lower end of the 46-50 tier, and the reward does not in any way reflect the effort needed. So whilst I could take it or leave it - I still think that the overall design of the event is poor, again...
I can see that there isn't really a loss/gain with the 46-50 quests as it kind of balances out, but apart from having something to do, as a level 47 player I have upgrades and buildings and adventures to do so I don't "need" to do the quest chain (I appreciate the effort BB have gone through in creating this - thank you).
My problem is that I'm not gaining anything from taking time and resources away from "playing the game" to complete this event which is a bit disappointing, I'm not saying every crisis quest should give us a 'gem building' (deerstalker etc) but perhaps if they are going to be frequent they should perhaps include an element like the End of the World quest chain where people in that quest range on the server e.g. 46-50 etc all work together to get an even better reward when say 20,45, 75% of "active" players complete the chain, to make it seem like there is a reason for taking part, and it gives people something to work towards and make it possibly better 'value' for those who look at is a "what have you done for me lately, BB?" quest.
I will be completing the quest whatever the cost just because I enjoy playing the game and the quests make it a break from the 'norm'.
Cheers,
TheRook21
p.s. when the 7 day reward is going to increase from 45 gems to 100 (recently announced as a dev diary)and the reward for this 2 week quest chain is only 250gems, it does seem a bit like a "poor" reward, but its more bad timing of announcements :)
p.p.s I love the dev diary announcements so don't take my p.s. as a complain about them
OK just read what I can expect for level 42. And as usual what I saw doesn't tie up with the complaints. BB didn't learn from the last quest? Where in that quest chain do we have to find x resources from particular adventures 3 times? I was lucky - I found them first time, but i know a lot struggled with that. This chain just says do x number of adventures. for me that's a huge improvement on the last one.
This chain weill be challenging, especially as I have a busy work week next week and I'm going away the following weekend, but it's doable. I for one will be doing this one again. Anything that makes a change is welcome and it's nice to see one game developer giving us new things to do.
Dialecticus
25.05.13, 23:50
Now that I have finally built an expert building (exo sawmills not including) I have to wonder, to whom will I be selling damascene swords at a price large enough to make the building profitable?
lordloocan
26.05.13, 01:19
Will do for the variety but poorly thought out. The bands of player levels are too wide, yet again. There is no comparison between a level 36 and a level 45. For instance, for a level 45 giving up 8k marble etc is a drop in the ocean. For those of us who are levels 36/39 it is a large amount. Can we have more bands next time, eg 35 to 40, 41 to 46 etc.
I'm doing 8th quest :-) now and yesterday I leveled up on lvl 42 after did Sons adventure. So it is not impossible.
I might complete it but the quest is not really saving the day... Again no lvl cap raise or any new exiting adventures... PVP is just 2 years away i do not mention it for now...
Nice event but really failed rewards...
Why I chose to start doing the crisis quest on the Newfoundland server:
And that looks a bit different for lvl 50 at Northisle:
The Fallen Army - Crisis Quest - In Numbers for lvls 46-50
Reconstitution (15 h.)
-920gc
What once was lost (24/48 h.)
+150 gc
Sharing is caring (24/48 h.)
+675 gc
Call to battle (2 h.)
~0 gc (ls bought, doing xp adventure with lvl50 cap is a huge waist)
The finest equipment (24 h.)
~0 gc
Standing army (0 h.)
-1350 gc
The enemy's scheming (24/48 h.)
Doing adventure and selling ls's (you forgot units aren't free?):
-2,4k gc
buying ls:
-400 gc
Royal acquisition (24 h.)
+20 gc
Perseverance (12 h.)
+40 gc
Revelation (24/48 h.)
+1,25k gc
You are like -1,8k .... doing SE at lvl 50 is quite stupid due to waist of 50k xp, same with BK
I actually was stupid (read bored enough) to start SE, since at this point its the only adventure I've done for half a year.
The most annoying thing is that rewards are so poor comparing to the whole job that needs to be done here and potential losses, any unique building reward would be far better, but 250 gems is a joke.... just think its worth 8,9x100 pine wood logs as resource tab at merchant shows ;)
Now back to the xp limit, XP total: 3,746,000 ... this value is far from unsigned INT32 limit (4,294,967,295), why does it have to be locked? Why not leaving it 50lvl with no xp limit and when the new ideas come reposition the players at their place? Such small steps would make quest like this or similar at least worth a penny.
Do people ever include the loot they get from adventures when doing these profit/loss calculations? That's certainly something else you get as a + from it
I have just finished and am Level 42 so right in the middle of the bracket.
I kept a little journal along the way as I am not the sort of player who spends all their waking hours logged into TSO. I work full time and have a family too.
Day 1
Produce 100 Aunt Irma's Gift Baskets. Pay 5000 HWP
Day 2
Find 20 exotic wood logs via long treasure search. Sell 10000 resources (Done in guild and returned, cost 0)
Produce at least 350 Sausage(s) (Doing that everyday). Buff at least 100 of your friends buildings using Aunt Irmas Gift Baskets (Doing that every day).
Day 3
Complete 2 experience adventures (Swapped Dark Priests loot spots in guild so only 1 adventure done with losses). Buy 10000 resources (Done in guild, goods returned).
Produce 100 Steel Swords (Making 145 per 12 hours anyway). Recieve 150 buffs on your island (swapped in guild fish platter).
Day 4
Produce at least 100 Steel Swords. Have your friends buff 150 of your buildings! (Both of these would probably happen anyway)
Own 200 Cavalry. Pay 8000 Marble from your storage. (I have 400 cavalry in my standing army and always have well over 20k marble in my stores anyway)
Day 5
Complete the adventure "Sons of the veld" (Bit tricky as I cannot do blocks, but I am sharing it with a guild member so hopefully wont be too expensive in losses) Own at least 1000 Horses. (Again I have more than enough in my stores at all times so not a problem).
Day 6
Produce at least 230 settlers (Just need to wait with zero costs). have an army of over 1000 (Always have that at least).
Day 7
Still waiting for 230 settlers to be made.
Day 8
Produce at least 200 Iron bars (Just another waiting game). Own at least 8 adventures (I always have well over 30 at all times anyway).
Day 9
Complete at least 4 new adventures (A Dark Priests lootspot, Bounter hunters I have had sonce level 26 and never used, an easter egg search adventure I knew I purchased for a reason but could never figure out what that reason was and Witch Of The Swamp), Pay 8000 coal (I have double that at least in stores at all times).
Also at the time of writing the poll has 347 players voting yes 46.51% and 399 players 53.49% voting no. Just on Sandycove alone there are more players on just the first page of guild lists so hardly reflective of the majority of all player on all three servers.
Probably wouldn't want to see my 'journal', looks more like a suicide note.
I go away from the game for just over a week due to real life issues, upon my return I read this thread and find that the player-base has lost all capacity for simple maths. Currently the vote are 53.23% not in favour of the quest. Sorry to burst your bubbles of delusions people but that's 53.23 percent of voters not 53.23 percent of the players as some are asserting.
The best thing about these crisis quests is that for 2 weeks resource prices go crazy, basic stuff cheap, where buff items go through the roof! drill plans and potions are needed by most! Also basic adventure prices rise which cant be bad.
It took me a little over 3 days to complete this quest, (36 - 45) imo way too easy, which justified the paltry reward. Id rather go back to needing granite in adventures as although it could be tricky the rewards were worth going for it! (for my level chain anyway).
I cant help thinking that we got what we deserved here. So many complaints about the granite drops from 4 winds that bb decided to redesign the whole crisis to make it easier for everyone to complete. So in their eyes the 250 gem reward is enough for what we had to do! The introduction of medikits will be pointless to many, as most of us barely do 1 adventure a day!
I know most high level players will not agree, and it does seem pointless to own top end buildings as their resources come freely from epic adventure loot drops, maybe take all those out so ppl need to build those expensive buildings in future.
I am very disappointed to find that I will not be able to continue with the crisis quests. After spending a lot of resources doing the horseback adventure to satisfy the requirement to do an experience adventure, I then helped a friend with the Stealing from the Rich adventure, which she chose to do as her experience adventure. Not only did it take forever, but it used the rest of my resources--and we just barely completed it in the 4 day time period. Next, I did manage to make the requested 450 recruits---only to come to find that the next requirement is to do the Stealing from the Rich adventure--which I had just completed! There is no way for me to do this 4 day adventure with no resources remaining, and with only 3 days left on the crisis quests.
It seems like you are setting up casual players to fail, and I am very disappointed in the game. If I knew this I wouldn't have attempted the Fallen Army at all, and would have saved my resources.
And what is with it taking 30 minutes for your general to travel to the adventure site--too much time in this game is spent waiting around--which is VERY boring. Not to mention the boring fights in which the computer does the fighting, and we have no involvement--and again just have to wait for the results.
This has left me with a very negative outlook on this game. Thanks for nothing!
I go away from the game for just over a week due to real life issues, upon my return I read this thread and find that the player-base has lost all capacity for simple maths. Currently the vote are 53.23% not in favour of the quest. Sorry to burst your bubbles of delusions people but that's 53.23 percent of voters not 53.23 percent of the players as some are asserting.
Sorry to burst YOUR bubble, but a vote in which more than 50% of respondents say they aren't even going to start the quest is a damning statistic. And don't forget that the voters are likely to be the most active players who also look at the forum, while more casual players, who don't visit the forums, are more likely not to have known the obstacles awaiting them and been disappointed as a result - you don't have to look far for examples of that.
There is simply no avoiding the fact that this quest has failed to impress or entertain a large number of players and the vote here is clear evidence of that. Even more worrying for BB is that of the level 46-50 players I've seen saying they are-doing/have-done the quest it has nearly always been because they are so bored otherwise - and that really should be a serious concern to BB, even if they ignore the clear statistics of those who never even started the quest.
Just finished SotV and the losses were horrendous, until BB sort out this lag issue, please NEVER include this as a quest again. :(
12 camps can be skipped in the Sons Of The Veld:
The following attack sequence was used to complete the SOTV adventure within the quest chain for the Fallen Army.
The quest was completed using normal generals only.
The image used with Tages’s guide is used as the basis for the camp colour and numbering scheme.
The scheme used for identifying the sectors was simply to start from G1 with the letter A then with the next letter in turn on a clockwise basis.
If there is another scheme then I have not seen it.
Combat simulator was used to determine the most optimal setups available for the troops that I had/could have available within an achievable timeframe for completing the quest.. You should not rely on my configurations but use combat simulator.
You should also always use combat preview to confirm the route that your general will take will not be intercepted by another camp. If it will – then use your eyes you should see that you can reposition your general to avoid interception. For example you should be able to find a route for your general to go through a gap in the rock formation that is around G7 when attacking from Green C8
http://thesettlersonlinewiki.com/uploads/219651036SonsOfTheVeldRouteTable.jpg
The 12 camps that are skipped are:
http://thesettlersonlinewiki.com/uploads/938749959SonsOfTheVeldSkippedCampsTable.jpg
12 camps can be skipped in the Sons Of The Veld:
The following attack sequence was used to complete the SOTV adventure within the quest chain for the Fallen Army.
etc
So that's 2458R, 596B, 220C, 110M, and 177S. Ouch. Is that really the best option with only normal generals?
Guess you should've gone for that veteran at easter...
So that's 2458R, 596B, 220C, 110M, and 177S. Ouch. Is that really the best option with only normal generals?
Guess you should've gone for that veteran at easter...
If my ISP had not had a major outage over Easter I might have been able to gain a Vet but I didn't' so I couldn't.
If I had a BHG or a Vet or even perhaps some Elite soldiers I guess it would been fewer losses and more opportunities for blocks.
As I said, I used Combat Simulator to obtain optimal configuration for the troops I had available and for to fit the timescale of the quest.
If there is anything better than Combat Simulator please let me know.
These camps can still be skipped no matter what other tactics you decide to use.
Note: The figures are for Max Losses - Average and Minimum are not stated
PS: I used Combat Simulator, Hall of Fame
I managed Sons of the Veld on my own, with only basic Generals in 2 days, having spent 1 day preparing resources and buffs. There are 14 camps that can be avoided by careful manouvering. Total losses; 515R, 150M, 790S, 482C, 155B & 10LB. Still pretty expensive but I want the gems for completing the quest. bit disappointed that I had to spend gems to get the buff for the barracks.
If there is a better Combat Simulator please let me know.
These camps can still be skipped no matter what tactics you decide to use.
Your figures must be way off.
http://settlersonlinesimulator.com/dso_kampfsimulator/en/adventures/soehne-der-steppe/?my_r=200&my_m=200&my_s=200&my_e=0&my_c=200&my_b=200&my_lb=200&my_a=0&my_k=0&wave=0&limit-trigger=false
this suggest max losses attacking EVERY camp less than your losses skipping 12 of them.
But that's no better than Sid's old pre-Vet losses, and there's a no vet guide already that seems better.
Think you need to go back to the drawing board there, Bottlecap.
Your figures must be way off.
http://settlersonlinesimulator.com/dso_kampfsimulator/en/adventures/soehne-der-steppe/?my_r=200&my_m=200&my_s=200&my_e=0&my_c=200&my_b=200&my_lb=200&my_a=0&my_k=0&wave=0&limit-trigger=false
this suggest max losses attacking EVERY camp less than your losses skipping 12 of them.
There are only 26 camps identified in this analysis.
some camps are presented several time in SOTV eg 150rb
Note: SOTV has 44 camps in total
But that's no better than Sid's old pre-Vet losses, and there's a no vet guide already that seems better.
Think you need to go back to the drawing board there, Bottlecap.
Sid's guide is for the old pathings
I managed Sons of the Veld on my own, with only basic Generals in 2 days, having spent 1 day preparing resources and buffs. There are 14 camps that can be avoided by careful manouvering. Total losses; 515R, 150M, 790S, 482C, 155B & 10LB. Still pretty expensive but I want the gems for completing the quest. bit disappointed that I had to spend gems to get the buff for the barracks.
Please publish your route for skipping 14 camps, it might be useful for the next stupid quest :)
PS: I did not count my losses :)
PS: I got the gems and the granite and a level up and now have elite soldier :)
I've just finished the crisis quest, I was level 40 when it started, I'm now level 41. Wasn't too bad for my level, everything on it I do anyway it was just condensed into less time than I would usually do everything in. My guild were fab with buff swaps & supplies for SOTV (lots of bread men!!) and I enjoyed the challenge.
I also managed to skip 14 camps on SOTV (I didn't do any blocks) my total losses were 2641R 412M 53C, took me 2.5 days to finish it. And to think I've had SOTV as a "daily" quest ;)
Edit: meant to say I do have a vet which lowered my losses a lot.
I've just finished the crisis quest, I was level 40 when it started, I'm now level 41. Wasn't too bad for my level, everything on it I do anyway it was just condensed into less time than I would usually do everything in. My guild were fab with buff swaps & supplies for SOTV (lots of bread men!!) and I enjoyed the challenge.
I also managed to skip 14 camps on SOTV (I didn't do any blocks) my total losses were 2641R 412M 53C, took me 2.5 days to finish it. And to think I've had SOTV as a "daily" quest ;)
I always enjoy a challenge too :)
PS: my assssement was i can do this and i did :)
Well, seeing as you just told me that you also did 4 EOTW advs in 1 day, but your join date is barely before that event started, I know what I'm smelling now.
Well, seeing as you just told me that you also did 4 EOTW advs in 1 day, but your join date is after that event, I know what I'm smelling now.
EOTW was in December 2012
I am really sorry u think rat
So i wlll not speak with u again until u apologise
As far as I am concerned u r now a mink
PS: i did 4 EOTW in one day in Apil 2013
Sinister-King
05.06.13, 02:14
Hello!
Can we not be rude and insulting to one another.
Anyone who chooses to continue bickering will receive an official warning.
Please review the forum and in-game Code of Conduct (http://forum.thesettlersonline.com/threads/21679-In-game-Rules-Code-of-conduct-(chat-and-forum)?p=207315&viewfull=1#post207315).
Thank you,
Sinister-King
Proved my point. Glad I won't have to endure this any longer.
FYI: 15 camps can be skipped in SOTV
See the image taken from http://osettlers.ru/img/guide/sons-of-the-veld-g1-ollenudel.jpeg
http://osettlers.ru/img/guide/sons-of-the-veld-g1-ollenudel.jpeg
Sorry to burst YOUR bubble, but a vote in which more than 50% of respondents say they aren't even going to start the quest is a damning statistic. And don't forget that the voters are likely to be the most active players who also look at the forum, while more casual players, who don't visit the forums, are more likely not to have known the obstacles awaiting them and been disappointed as a result - you don't have to look far for examples of that.
There is simply no avoiding the fact that this quest has failed to impress or entertain a large number of players and the vote here is clear evidence of that. Even more worrying for BB is that of the level 46-50 players I've seen saying they are-doing/have-done the quest it has nearly always been because they are so bored otherwise - and that really should be a serious concern to BB, even if they ignore the clear statistics of those who never even started the quest.
You completely fail to get it don't you. Obviously there are enough people buying gems to convince BB that after running costs there is enough profit to be made. Looking at the trading which happens in game one is able hazard a guess at the ratio of coiners to non coiners, chatting in game with other players will show you if your guess is right or not. From this you can deduce how many people are playing. Even if you figure if that number is as low as 1000 per server that gives 3000 players across the 3 servers. At this point in time 818 people had voted with 416 saying no. Thats only 1/7 th of of the number of players estimated. In other words about 86% of players are not hating the game enough to vote no.
Your argument that not starting the quest because it's so bad is only a partial truth, it's not the only reason why people have not started. Some people will not have started because they have a life outside of the game which has prevented them from starting. The only statistic you can draw from non starters is that there is no statistic to be drawn about non starting because BB did such a bad job, to claim otherwise is nothing more than spin on the behalf of the we hate BB party.
You completely fail to get it don't you. Obviously there are enough people buying gems to convince BB that after running costs there is enough profit to be made. Looking at the trading which happens in game one is able hazard a guess at the ratio of coiners to non coiners, chatting in game with other players will show you if your guess is right or not. From this you can deduce how many people are playing. Even if you figure if that number is as low as 1000 per server that gives 3000 players across the 3 servers. At this point in time 818 people had voted with 416 saying no. Thats only 1/7 th of of the number of players estimated. In other words about 86% of players are not hating the game enough to vote no.
Your argument that not starting the quest because it's so bad is only a partial truth, it's not the only reason why people have not started. Some people will not have started because they have a life outside of the game which has prevented them from starting. The only statistic you can draw from non starters is that there is no statistic to be drawn about non starting because BB did such a bad job, to claim otherwise is nothing more than spin on the behalf of the we hate BB party.
Two things... 1. A guess based on a guess based on a random chat observation is still a guess. If you want to lecture others on statistics, then you'd be well advised not to base your own 'statistics' on random guesswork on your part. 2. Why do you think anyone hates BB? It would be very strange behaviour indeed to play the game of a company one hated, so why would you think people are doing that? Step back and take a clearer look at the valid criticisms that are being made and stop trying to describe it as 'hating' - it isn't.
So, having completely 'got it', perhaps you can address the points that the players on the forums are the most active and a vote of over 50% saying they won't even attempt the quest is statistically highly meaningful when based on a sample base of many hundreds. Whether anyone at BB is monitoring the non-participation is another matter, but significant numbers of players simply weren't interested or motivated by this event, which is a clear indication of the problems BB is facing right now. Feel free to ignore the key points again though. :)
FYI: 15 camps can be skipped in SOTV
See the image taken from http://osettlers.ru/img/guide/sons-of-the-veld-g1-ollenudel.jpeg
Yes, I remember Olle's map very well, it was great for its time. Unfortunately, it was a pre-pathing change map. You can no longer do the Camps 11, 12, 13 route without being intercepted.
Keep searching, there's plenty more out there.
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