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Asmapabe
07.06.13, 17:41
I have bees taken many adventures lately, but the granite seems to be gone . What is wrong? From a diesent amout of granite to zero on a week or two? Both treasuresurch and advents are emty. You might me lucy once in 20 adv. and have some. I have read in the forum that we are many that search for the granite, but we can't find it anymore.....

Nogbad
07.06.13, 18:40
Quite a lot of us seem to be experiencing this. Since November, granite has almost disappeared from Treasure searches and Adventure loot, it's almost guranteed e/w logs. Only one (new) adventure seems to be playing fair with the percentages, unlike SFTR which after over 430 attempts has yet to cough up a single White Castle!

BAAAHHHHHJJJAAA
08.06.13, 02:53
A lot of players are using it to upgrade the more advance buildings to lvl 5. As for treasure searches I conducted a test this week to see how much was found from explorers and it was more than the other resources.

stefanceltare
15.06.13, 13:10
It is outrageous that in the last 2 days i got 6 BK lootspots, finished VTV, 2 Outlaws, 1 Traitors and not 1 of them dropped any granite... not a single drop. It is every time the same junk and more junk. This is not fun anymore...

Billionis
10.01.14, 16:27
I too have had a similar experience, out of 30 adv's and ls's only 3 have dropped granite... I have varied the adv's etc but alas to no avail... man cannot live on saltpeter alone!!!

PChamps
10.01.14, 16:41
Quite a lot of us seem to be experiencing this. Since November, granite has almost disappeared from Treasure searches and Adventure loot, it's almost guranteed e/w logs. Only one (new) adventure seems to be playing fair with the percentages, unlike SFTR which after over 430 attempts has yet to cough up a single White Castle!

Speak for yourself, This screenshot is from the last 2 days there is another line when I scroll down, that is 17 explorers all doing treasure hunts

It is totally random

http://s29.postimg.org/iu0qex6g7/granite.jpg

Gerontius
10.01.14, 16:48
I get plenty of granite from treasure searches.

Haven't done many adventures recently due to rl...

I know people always have and will continue to cry fowl, but it's just the luck of the draw

Nogbad
10.01.14, 18:40
It has picked up somewhat since that post 7 months ago, coincidentally about the same time that the books came in (which of course require e/w at higher levels).

Bluesavanah
10.01.14, 20:43
From adventure such as BK maybe 1 in 10 drops granite (5-6 adventure / ls a day), from explorers (12) with better chance to find 0-400 (usually around 150) but the more granite you have the less they bring back, smaller adventure seem to have more luck.

PChamps
10.01.14, 20:50
but the more granite you have the less they bring back,

Rubbish, I have a nice big storage of granite and still find lots.

Bluesavanah
11.01.14, 03:58
Rubbish, I have a nice big storage of granite and still find lots.

I'm running 4 1/2 medium searches a day, every day and I'm telling from experience that the quantities I get are way higher when I have close to 0 in storehouse than if I have more than 8k in storehouse and I've repeated this several times. Also exactly the same for my wife so its not just me. She seems to think leaving it in star menu helps but IDK.

PChamps
11.01.14, 14:49
Again what you have in storage has no effect on what you pick up. Might as well say when you rub the bald mans head before playing the lottery you have more chance of winning.

RabidGerbil
11.01.14, 15:15
I have had 6 scouts and 3 explorers out doing long and medium treasure searches and I have gotten 3 lots of granite back from all those and in each case it was 10 units. Something has changed.

Bluesavanah
11.01.14, 17:16
Again what you have in storage has no effect on what you pick up. Might as well say when you rub the bald mans head before playing the lottery you have more chance of winning.

I am relaying my own and my wife's experiences, yours maybe different. Its working for me again I get rid of most of my Granite and again there bringing back 300-400 granite a search. I'll rub a bald man's head (my own) and see if that helps, let you know soon.

MutantKid
11.01.14, 19:56
Unfortunately u can hit a run of no granite from adventures quite often, could be down to having too much in storage. tampering from bb or jus plain bad luck!
I had one of the worse runs in history just b4 the xmas event, it started with salt & titan ore from 2 ml's, then a couple of bk's & rb's with the same result, I then thought that its best to try a few adv with a 50% drop for granite. I then hit 12 pirates in a row with 3 or 4 sftr mixed in between, I was shocked to see no granite from any of them either. that's 22 adv without granite in a row (no typo!) I dare anyone to come on here with worse results than that!!
I had no choice but to equip all my scouts with the "find more granite from medium treasure searches". Thankfully they started bringing quite a bit bk and after trying a few new adv (rbn mainly) granite started appearing from adv again.
I couldn't really put my finger on why the granite stopped, trying different adv didn't work, after speaking to several ppl in chat & my fr list it was clear that many ppl were experiencing this as well.

Nogbad
13.01.14, 21:43
You can date it though, very easily.
It was that disastrous update in November 2012, that's when the searches started to skew way off normal, it was also the point where lag became insane and regular, and sadly also the point where bug reports on the Test server began to be ignored, and flawed features went live regardless.

jip1976
14.01.14, 00:06
:mad:salt, titanium and exlogs in loot but NO GRANITE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! For well over 30 advs and ls now

AmnesiaX
14.01.14, 03:38
:mad:salt, titanium and exlogs in loot but NO GRANITE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! For well over 30 advs and ls now

Just bad luck. Try more :)

Jimmian
14.01.14, 17:09
At least now we know why... trying to create a market for the ghastly granite pit! *sigh*

Thejollyone
14.01.14, 17:13
Where did all the granite go???


I got it all :D

lulu10093
14.01.14, 17:32
Where did all the granite go???


I got it all :D

hehehe yep i would say you have lol

MiCeK-CRO
18.01.14, 16:17
hehehe yep i would say you have lol

nah, all the granite is gone coz of this new GEM feature: The update will introduce a new building (Granite Pit)

Ppl buy Granite Pit for gems = devs get money

its very simple ;)

Devs nerfed granite, same as the nerfed rarity search, its useless you cant get beans from it, you have to be really lucky to get it, and when you think of it you wasted all those skill books for a feature that is nerfed :(

BB_Ravel
20.01.14, 13:44
nah, all the granite is gone coz of this new GEM feature: The update will introduce a new building (Granite Pit)

Ppl buy Granite Pit for gems = devs get money

its very simple ;)

Devs nerfed granite, same as the nerfed rarity search, its useless you cant get beans from it, you have to be really lucky to get it, and when you think of it you wasted all those skill books for a feature that is nerfed :(

I can actually confirm there has been NO NERF OF GRANITE LOOT. The drop rate is exactly the same. We just have lucky and unlucky players, as seen in the posts above.

Hazgod
20.01.14, 15:58
I'm getting granite regularly using the medium treasure search with both upgraded and non upgraded explorers. Also getting plenty from loot. Although on my premium day with 10 lootspots and 5 of my own SA with swapped lootspots I only got 2 lots of granite, the following day I did 3 RB with 1500 granite in a row

casel0gic
20.01.14, 18:25
It would be nice to discover what the percentages for each adventure actually are. I suggested elsewhere a webpage that permits players to manually input their adventure rewards, allowing an algorithm to calculate drop percentages based on the last 200 submissions. The more people who enter values, the greater confidence we can have in the results. Unfortunately, I am not skilled enough to create such a webpage.

Brankovics
20.01.14, 21:15
You can use the free Google drive / spredsheet, just as it happened time to time before for similar disquisition...

haverrr
20.01.14, 22:35
It would be nice to discover what the percentages for each adventure actually are. I suggested elsewhere a webpage that permits players to manually input their adventure rewards, allowing an algorithm to calculate drop percentages based on the last 200 submissions. The more people who enter values, the greater confidence we can have in the results. Unfortunately, I am not skilled enough to create such a webpage.

Or, you know, they could actually just tell us. :P

Dorotheus
21.01.14, 00:55
It would be nice to discover what the percentages for each adventure actually are. I suggested elsewhere a webpage that permits players to manually input their adventure rewards, allowing an algorithm to calculate drop percentages based on the last 200 submissions. The more people who enter values, the greater confidence we can have in the results. Unfortunately, I am not skilled enough to create such a webpage.

First you need to prove the loot drops are the result of a random number generator which awards loot at the end of the adventure. It could be based on time of day or time remaining for the adventure which determines the loot. No doubt there are other ways for them to produce what on the face of it appears to be random, yet is in fact is not random at all when you look at everthing which could possibly affect the outcome.

Nogbad
21.01.14, 01:49
How can it be random with the science system now?

FarmerIvan
25.01.14, 12:08
I can actually confirm there has been NO NERF OF GRANITE LOOT. The drop rate is exactly the same. We just have lucky and unlucky players, as seen in the posts above.

we don't believe this one bit. we can't all become "unlucky" like that at the same time. it's statistically improbable. it also shows on TO econ. please restore the chances.

Thrade
25.01.14, 12:26
You're not all unlucky at the same time. Few people visit the forums, and people who feel it's fine aren't going to be posting.
TO economy doesn't show anything either. Servers age, more and more high level players work up gold chains, so coins are decreasing in value (the towers for christmas didn't help). The aging population also has a higher and higher need for granite to upgrade, so supply and demand kicks in and bumps the price. Nothing special.

Bluesavanah
25.01.14, 23:55
It is just luck, on Thursday I managed to get about 5.5k granite from BK's 4 done / 4 ls. So I think my lucks changing and do about 14 on premium on Friday with the wife, absolutely no granite for either us, I had a quest that requires 2 follow up, so 2 ML 1 done 1 ls both drop granite so 4.5k banked, the wife exactly the same. Premium runs out and the 2 BK I do after both drop 1100, but she didn't get any.

It is very very random whether you get granite or not, skilled explorers still bringing back what I mentioned earlier in the thread and it still seems affected by what you have but could just be me.

Demand is pushing price up as Thrade mentioned, lots of people sending stuff to lvl 5 especially stuff like coinages.

fishslice
27.01.14, 23:51
Where did all the granite go???


I got it all :D

I hope not jollyfog, theres still some room in my stores

http://i.imgur.com/oSIbI9Z.png

minion79
28.01.14, 00:47
I generally do very poorly on granite drops, period. But just in the last week or so i manage to get about 15k in 24hrs premium doing RB, BK, and pirates, all dropping still getting more titanium and salt peter than i know what to do with, but guess i'm just generally unlucky on granite drops, also unlucky on rare building drops too lol.

Bluesavanah
28.01.14, 01:35
I hope not jollyfog, theres still some room in my stores

http://i.imgur.com/oSIbI9Z.png

The first thought that crossed my mind when looking at this, is he must do suicide waves with Elites and cannons. Big difference with the Damescene swords and cannons compared to crossbows.

fishslice
28.01.14, 09:52
The first thought that crossed my mind when looking at this, is he must do suicide waves with Elites and cannons. Big difference with the Damescene swords and cannons compared to crossbows.



More to do with crossbows aren't used much in many of the bigger adventures (just the occasional camp) whereas ES got used in a lot of blocks which can sometimes fail. Well that plus not many in our guild use that many crossbows these days so they tend to just stack up and I'm to lazy to sell them. Note to self: Trade your crossbows for ES.

Stichius
28.01.14, 10:04
I hope not jollyfog, theres still some room in my stores

http://i.imgur.com/oSIbI9Z.png

Are you sure you want to store that much gunpowder next to your granite. One little spark and it's going to take you ages to restack all those granite blocks :)

fishslice
28.01.14, 10:18
But it will clear all the rocks from my island :D

hades8840
28.01.14, 13:05
after looking at your screen to be let loose on your stores for a day my island would be complete lol
i get happy when i have 10k granite

But it will clear all the rocks from my island :D

Giddran
29.01.14, 02:53
You guys are just silly, the granite drop and find is still the same. I'm getting 2000-3000 granite per day with my treasure searches and getting the expected granite from my adventures.

Using Black Knight as an example is ridiculous as the granite drop is 1 granite drop per 6(.25) black knights. Since the low % means that the statistical variation becomes more visible as its not unlikely to get 0 granite from 18 black knights adventures and then getting 3 granite drops in a row.

Mesea
31.01.14, 19:08
BK is actually one of worst examples for granite.
But if around 20 ls'es from various adventures (RB, VtV, SotV, Outlaws) don't yield granite in even 1 case it's closing to statistical miracle. Those adventures have chances between 25-33% for granite drop so should get about 4 in 20 in average case. Getting 1-2 in 20 would be unlucky. 0 is... very bad luck all around. And I'm not only one getting similar results.

Baggis
31.01.14, 22:46
2-3k granite per day from treasure searches??

MrMoody
01.02.14, 08:28
It's so funny that some people try to claim the granite drop rates are below the stated drop rates based on a sample of 30.
Take some statistic classes and come back when you have done a few hundred :)

PChamps
01.02.14, 09:24
You guys are just silly, the granite drop and find is still the same. I'm getting 2000-3000 granite per day with my treasure searches and getting the expected granite from my adventures.

Well yea we know that is not true. I have 17 explorers (which is the max) and if everyone of them returned 60 granite which is the top find that is still only 1020 granite. So please explain how you are getting 2k-3k granite per day I am very intrigued. Never ever has every single explorer returned granite which I think borders on an impossibility.

Mesea
01.02.14, 11:15
I'm quite well aware that 30 samples is not much. But look at it in other side - 30 samples totally without granite with theoretical average probability of even 20% also borders on impossible when using statistics. And it's not happening to one person - I know at least few others.
And granite price is reflecting this quite well (it might be also dragged up because of discussions like this but it seems ppl see that there is much less granite to go around).

Jamdoggy
01.02.14, 16:31
2-3k granite per day from treasure searches??
Possible with the max of 15 explorers, all with science skills targetted to boosting Granite finds in Medium adventures, doing 3-4 medium searches per day...

PChamps
01.02.14, 16:46
Possible with the max of 15 explorers, all with science skills targetted to boosting Granite finds in Medium adventures, doing 3-4 medium searches per day...

17 explorers is the max

Jamdoggy
01.02.14, 16:49
17 explorers is the maxlol - thanks PChamps, mis-counted...

PChamps
01.02.14, 17:08
I was trying to find a sheet with what each search can return and the percent chance, I only send my explorers for very long searches which is 1 day or 2 days for the normal explorers, I just cant see how you can get 2-3k granite.

Anyone got a link for such a sheet I am sure one is on this forum somewhere.

Jamdoggy
01.02.14, 17:55
Looking at the Explorer Skills required to maximise granite income from Medium searches:
Level 1:
3 x Lucky Detour: Increases the chance of finding Granite on Medium Treasure Searches to 24%
2 x Mountain Boots: Shorten the search time for all Treasure Searches by 6%

Level 2:
3 x Extended Weekend: Shorten the search time for Medium Treasure Searches by 15%
2 x Any other skill

Level 3:
3 x Loot Wagon: Find 24% more Granite on Medium Treasure Searches
2 x Sturdy Shovel: Find 6% more loot on all Treasure Searches

Level 4:
3 x Pathfinder: Shorten the search time for all Searches by 15%
No need to waste any more codex's on more skills, as this explorer will be primarily doing Medium Searches for Granite.

So, when doing a medium search, the following skills apply:
Increases the chance of finding Granite to 24%
Shorten the search time by 6%
Shorten the search time by 15%
Shorten the search time by 15%
Find 24% more Granite
Find 6% more loot

So, a normal Savage Scout, on a 6-hour-long medium search has 2.7% chance of finding 50 Granite, and 1.4% chance of finding 100 granite.

Assuming spectacular good luck, we'll assume every explorer comes back with 130 Granite, and search time is reduced to about 4 hours. 5 searches is possible (16 hours awake, 8 hours asleep), but we'll assume just 4 searches, because you can't catch your explorers the moment they come back, every 4 hours throughout the day, every day.

14 fast explorers = 14 * 130 * 4 (per day) = 7,280 granite per day
3 slow explorers = 3 * 130 * 2 = 780 granite

That's 8,060 granite if every explorer finds the max, but...

The chance of finding granite is 24%, so this number is reduced to about 1,934

Also, finding granite doesn't mean finding the max - there's a 67% chance of finding half the amount, so, which works out as an average of about 1,289 granite per day, if all explorers are geared up perfectly for finding Granite on Medium Searches...

Seems you were right, PChamps, 2-3k granite per day is unlikely, but the numbers show that getting that much sometimes is definitely possible...

PChamps
01.02.14, 18:00
Thanks for that :)

Like you say unlikely... but might happen once in a blue moon. Every day I doubt it.

Dorotheus
01.02.14, 23:04
Actually you could invest 1 more manu for 3x Mountain boots reducing the search time down to just under 3 hours 40, this would allow 1 more search based on 16 hours awake as you say. You could also invest in 1 mome tome for 3 x Sturdy Shovel giving an additional 3% more loot. Though it may not look like much return from your investment of 2 books the result is 45% more granite than your numbers show.

Giddran
02.02.14, 15:16
I got 17 explorers with a full skill tree doing medium adventure searches and 4 fully jolly geo for finding gold deposit/surplus gold. Kinda silly tho, my best loot so far has been 11 bag of snows and a couple of 3x buffs. (2x searches)

http://i.imgur.com/I7DfIVh.jpg

AkaManah1
22.02.14, 06:37
Granite in my Loot has now become a thing of the past for me.

A few weeks ago i bought a 7 day prem and went ape buying loot spots and doing my own adventures. I made enough granite to achieve major level 5 upgrades on my Barracks and Prov house, and still had enough left to do level 5 upgrades around my island.

Last week i did the same again, however, 2k of granite in the 7 days of prem time.

I thought i was just hitting a dry spell as i would assume there would be a cycle and you would get both good times then bad, and i can accept that.

In the hope that i was over my bad luck, i have bought another 7 day prem. Have a guess....still no granite. I have only had 2 lots of granite in very recent times, both from my own FT Adventures. And i was not on Prem then.

I hope this is not a permanent thing due to the new granite buildings and adjustments being made to lower granite levels...i don't even know if that is possible for BB to do. Would like to hear if anyone else has been having the same problem.

Dragon-Lord79
22.02.14, 14:26
ok example better then black knights rewards 30 roaring bull loot spot done and it supossed to be 25% i will get granite surprise surprise out of 30 i got 4 granite wins

Bluesavanah
23.02.14, 03:33
The trick is to nearly run out of exotic wood logs, do Island of the Pirates because nothing drops granite any more. Hey presto Granite !

Splotch
23.02.14, 15:14
ok example better then black knights rewards 30 roaring bull loot spot done and it supossed to be 25% i will get granite surprise surprise out of 30 i got 4 granite wins

There is a 25% chance to drop granite but that does not mean that you drop granite 25% of the time.

What you drop now has no bearing at all on subsequent drops and therefore it's not a case of the loot system trying to work things out to give you 25% granite, so it's not really surprising that you got 13.33% instead of 25%. If you increase your sample size by 10% from 30 to 33 and drop granite 3 times you'll jump from 13.33% to 23.33% but if you fail another three times you'll drop from 13.33% to 12.12%.

Feeling lucky..? Because that's what it's all about.

hades8840
24.02.14, 08:22
mse is great for granite for me at least it drops granite more often then ewl

Torquemarda
16.03.14, 13:36
Like a lot of you I've noticed the reduced drop rate for granite. Myself and two others in the guild have been doing 2+ adv's every day and in the last 30 days not one of us has had any granite.
If this is to drive people to buy the granite pit, all it will do is drive people to leave the game, which would be sad as I've been playing two years now

JiriTomiczek
16.03.14, 15:21
In order to find out if there really has been a reduce in granite from adventures I have conducted a research and here is a result. So far number of LS only 244 but rising :)
Picture bellow shows rewards from Roaring Bull adventure:
http://i.imgur.com/pAFc7XC.png

As you can see granite did not dissapear from the loot.
So all good according my standards :)

Solzar
16.03.14, 15:31
Let's see if I can lay this granite discussion regarding the science skill tree to rest a little...

* 15.5 explorers sent out per run
(14 fast explorers aquired from merchant and events + 3 slow explorers purchased from tavern)

* 3.72 of the explorers sent out on average will find granite
(24% of the 15.5 sent out as above)

* 248 total granite found each run on average
(1.4% chance of finding 100 granite and 2.7% to find 50 granite so it is accurate enough to say that the 50 granite will show itself exactly twice as often as the 100)

...That amount 250 is exactly what I've been experiencing for many weeks now. The lowest I have received was 0, which may have happened
maybe 2 or 3 times. The highest was 550 which I had twice. When my explorers return I'm always hoping for 300 to 350 which is a good run.

If you have the skills "Loot Wagon" and "Sturdy Shovel" then you will receive a tip on any of those granite chunks found which will bring your average up to around 330 per run.

There have been rumors on granite amounts increasing based on what you have in stock. So far I disagree as I'm seeing this consistent average coming in even with 0K to 50K in stock. BUT, I stay very open minded to things like that as they do exist in games and are easy enough and reason enough for some developers to code in.

Some of the talk in this thread on "what's possible" I think may be generating some confusion especially with the new players. I realize that it is technically possible to be struck by lightning exactly 4 times each minute, while wearing a blue shirt which 33% of the population in your town on a tuesday consider it to be closer to green, and at the same time between lighting strike intervals the coin you flip lands on heads each time except for every 564th flip it drops and so happens to land on heads still, and during this cycle of lightning strikes, shirt color evaluations and coin tossing, the phone rings with a different person each time asking for John Q. Smith except Smith spelled Smyth, except when you ask they say "Smith", and during all of this your wife keeps demanding that you hurry and come to the table to eat your steak and yorkshire pudding because the 2 hour massage following needs to all be done in time for you to still log in and hit your Book Binder with glue! Yes, I realize it's technically possible...BUT, it has never happened. I hope this clears some confusion up.

God I hope my numbers above are correct, or close to it, because I don't want to come back here :)

dahmmy
20.03.14, 11:02
I played 4 RBs and got 4x granite in a row...must be something wrong i guess..

Tiletron
21.03.14, 18:18
All through the past month they've been jumping back and forth between whether they have a Granite Pit and Exotic Wood Tree School in the game or not... BB seriously need to make up their [ removed ] minds.


Hello Tiletron,

Please do not use profanity on the forum :(

Thank you,
Fexno

chickenhedz
21.03.14, 21:28
Just done 10 x IoTP over the last week or so, not one Granite drop, not bad for a 50/50 chance...

Baggis
22.03.14, 10:14
All through the past month they've been jumping back and forth between whether they have a Granite Pit and Exotic Wood Tree School in the game or not... BB seriously need to make up their [ removed ] minds.


Hello Tiletron,

Please do not use profanity on the forum :(

Thank you,
Fexno

How have they been jumping backwards and forwards on whether they have it or not? They've designed the items and announced they are coming. Just because they release a test version without them does not mean they've changed their mind, they just want to test a release without it in.

minoreva
30.03.14, 21:40
I have done Black Knights more than 20 times this weekend,not 1 single drop of granite-Thats really weird.I do get granite from treasure hunts and from other adventures-but zero from Black Knights

Bluesavanah
07.05.14, 12:03
Push this thread back to the top, anyone noticing medium treasure search (skilled) returning a lot less granite since the explorers stopped bring eggs back, lucky if 1-2 explorers from 12 bringing any back. Might just be on a bad run but starting to worry me.

Dorotheus
07.05.14, 20:05
Wonders why with 12 you are sending them out on medium, would that not mean they have down time unless you are sending them out 4 times a day.

Bluesavanah
07.05.14, 20:33
Wonders why with 12 you are sending them out on medium, would that not mean they have down time unless you are sending them out 4 times a day.

I'm in all the time so they go out 4 times, up until recently it was yielding better than long or very long. Ultimately once I get enough books they will all go out Artefact but it's a lot of books even with RTBN, plus I skilled the new explorer straight to Artefact and soon there's 2 more. Plenty of bandit's nest to keep me occupied for some considerable time I guess.

minion79
08.05.14, 13:10
where did all the granite go? maybe you should be asking "how much granite should we be getting?" I have started a thread requesting accurate loot/search/mystery box percentages from BB

http://forum.thesettlersonline.com/threads/28148-Loot-drop-and-explorer-search-percentages

There is poll for the thread, and I would imagine the more people that vote in the poll and the more interest in the thread, the more seriously BB should view the request. So pop over and make your vote count.

Bluesavanah
08.05.14, 20:17
It's not that I don't get granite, I do get a reasonable amount from adventures. It's that the more books you put into savage scouts the worse it gets. I used to get an average of about 350 up until around last November, then something seemed to change and the average dropped to around 250. Then since the eggs stopped I'm lucky to get one or two scouts bring 52 back maybe the odd 103.

The trouble with polls and the forum in general is it's pretty inactive compared to the number of players playing so you wont get a decent representation I'm afraid.

bigburp
12.05.14, 08:37
hi must say i have noticed a distinct lowering in granite drops over the last few months ive doubled my explorers to 13 and still find less than i did with 7 my drops on advs has much less granite drops too. today my explorers found 650 exo logs and 30 granite and some pepper.

pumpkin6514
19.05.14, 20:31
look at the price of granite, few months ago it was just a little more expensive than gold coin in TO, now 3 or even 4 times as much = shortage

Dorotheus
19.05.14, 23:00
Price has nothing to do with rarity, it's about what sellers think the punters are willing to pay. As far as my explorers go, they have good weeks they have bad weeks. On the whole they balance out. As drops from adventures well I had 6k yesterday yet only a 1/4 dropped granite.

shezzahr
23.05.14, 03:46
i have not seen granite in adv loot but 1 in maybe the last 7 adventures.

Buzzaroo
26.05.14, 07:07
At the moment it's pretty frustrating, i have 8 scouts/explorers and let them do treasure search twice a day. two of them have a full skill tree and the others have some skills, but mainly to find granite.

But 16 searches a day will bring up, if i'm lucky 1 or 2 granite finds a day.

SO WHAT'S THE US OF ALL THE EFFORT OF GIVING THEM SKILLS?

Before the introduction of the skill tree they came back way more times with granite, in smaller amounts though.
But now they come back with only marble, wood, coal or iron. which i can mine or harvest in the game myself.
If i read back the comments on this page, it seems that some of us don't have this problem at all.
Is it an issue in the dividerkey or what?

Also if i want to make a tomb now, i have to make 4!! manuscripts [ removed ] ?!
So if i put more effort in TSO i will get less in return, i can tell you BB, it'll take away the fun of being here everyday.
Or is it a motivation to start up several accounts?



Hello Buzzaroo,

Please don't use profanity on the forum, not even abbreviated.

Thank you,
Fexno

Buzzaroo
28.05.14, 22:08
Speak for yourself, This screenshot is from the last 2 days there is another line when I scroll down, that is 17 explorers all doing treasure hunts

It is totally random

http://s29.postimg.org/iu0qex6g7/granite.jpg

I disagree !!! every day 2 x 8 searches and 1, maybe 2 come back with granite.
So maybe Newfoundland is all out of granite??
This is going on for about 2 months now.

Explane it to me , cause i don't have a clue.

Dorotheus
28.05.14, 23:30
Since sending my tavern explorers out for the 1k coin achievement all they have brought back is granite and more granite.

Buzzaroo
30.05.14, 12:15
I disagree !!! every day 2 x 8 searches and 1, maybe 2 come back with granite.
So maybe Newfoundland is all out of granite??
This is going on for about 2 months now.

Explane it to me , cause i don't have a clue.

they can say what ever they want but i still have hardly no granite from my scouts.

Splotch
30.05.14, 13:04
I get about 240gr a day from my 18 scouts and that doesn't really change too much, it's either a bit more or a bit less and I'll get more 30's than 60's or more 60's than 30's... I drop granite on advantures at about the same rate as I used to overall.

Don't really have a problem with it myself.

fishslice
30.05.14, 18:36
I figured out where all the granite went


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http://i.imgur.com/HMZ4esq.png

bobsie
01.06.14, 08:15
Not so, fishslice - it looks like you have about years* worth less than you did earlier in this thread..!

*judging by other peoples luck

Buzzaroo
01.06.14, 10:25
I say; remove the granite finding skills and......

Let's add a skill to find marble planks coal or even stones !!!


Maybe, just maybe, we won't get them so much then.....


Problem solved!!


Will be a thread less in this forum for i don't think that anybody would find it terrible to get so much granite.

Buzzaroo
01.06.14, 10:28
And Fishslice, i think u add screenshots from the testenviroment. otherwise that would only be possible if u spend hundreds of dollars or play 24/7 without working or having a normal life.

Or just edited, it's kind a strange that your mayorhouse popup is placed so much to the left above the chatbox, while the popup from the mayorhouse is not possible to move.

bobsie
01.06.14, 10:44
Or just edited, it's kind a strange that your mayorhouse popup is placed so much to the left above the chatbox, while the popup from the mayorhouse is not possible to move.

It moves to the left if you resize your browser window :)

Buzzaroo
01.06.14, 20:26
True, lol, i just couldn't stand it that he was braggin' about it. :-)

Buzzaroo
01.06.14, 20:32
@Fishslice, sorry man, i guess it was kind a childish. just got frustrated cause geologists came back with hardly any granite .

fishslice
01.06.14, 22:21
No worries Buzzaroo - after all you was right..... Bragging :-)
I deliberately made the screen small so that you could see both the clock in the bottom and my tag.
I don't have the nick on test - and yeah been playing since Nov 2011 and so you find once everything is Level5 you don't use granite so it stacks up. Happy to say though that I help in guild - well help those that also help themselves anyway :-)
And lol to bobsie and the other post about it being less than previously. Those advanced weapons and sub buildings are expensive to upgrade to L5 (96k granite from L4 to L5) and for no other reason than the upgrade button was screaming 'click me, click me' lol ;-)