Geologist Skill tree information. Will you fully upgrade your Geologist?

[Duong_TonThat]

Geologist Skill tree (Total of 31 books)

Note
1: if you using maximum upgrade of each level you will miss out the higher level, limit to 31 books for EACH Geologist
2: valuable the book, only use it on Jolly Geologist, to make all the books for one Geologist ~34days (without glue),
Warning: The cost of the book is increasing with production
http://forum.tsotesting.com/threads/18839-Books-cost-increase
3: valuable the tome and codex, their cost increase with production a lot more than MANUSCRIPT



Level 1: Using MANUSCRIPT

Name: Hidden Stone Stash (0/3)
Effect: Grants a certain chance to find a treasure when searching for a Stone deposit.
Extra note: treasure for this level similar to short treasure search with explorer (possibility 10/20/30 %)

Name: Natural Copper Vein (0/3)
Effect: Grants a possibility to discover bigger Copper deposits.
Extra note: give 5/10/15% of original copper deposit (possibility 100%)



Level 2: Using MANUSCRIPT Unlock this level required: Minimum used 5 books+ player level ??

Name: Two Marble in One (0/3)
Effect: Grants a certain chance to discover two Marble deposits at once.
Extra note: the second marble deposits will NOT have bigger marble deposits (possibility 8/16/24 %)

Name: Quality Copper Shafts (0/3)
Effect: Grants a certain chance to find Copper deposits that can be mined faster.
EExtra note: the mine will be twice faster than normal (possibility 15/30/45 %)

Name: Natural Stone Vein (0/3)
Effect: Grants a possibility to discover bigger Stone deposits.
Extra note: give 8/16/24% of original stone deposit (possibility 100%)



Level 3: Using TOME Unlock this level required: Minimum used 10 books+ player level ??

Name: Natural Marble Vein (0/3)
Effect: Grants a possibility to discover bigger Marble deposits.
Extra note: Extra note: give 8/16/24% of original marble deposit (possibility 100%)

Name: Copper Mining Surplus (0/3)
Effect: Grants a certain chance to find Copper Ore when searching for a Copper deposit.
Extra note: This skill give from 50-250 copper ore with (possibility 8/16/24 %)

Name: Two Iron in One (0/3)
Effect: Grants a certain chance to discover two Iron deposits at once.
Extra note: the second iron deposits will NOT have bigger iron deposits (possibility 8/16/24 %)



Level 4: Using TOME Unlock this level required: Minimum used 15 books+ player level ??

Name: Quality Coal Shafts (0/3)
Effect: Grants a certain chance to find Coal deposits that can be mined faster.
Extra note: the mine will be twice faster than normal (possibility 15/30/45 %)

Name: Tendentious Geologist (0/3)
Effect: Shortens the search time for Minerals (i.e. stone, marble, coal).
Extra note: Reduce geologist search for stone, marble, coal by 10/20/30% original time

Name: Gold Mining Surplus (0/3)
Effect: Grants a certain chance to find Gold Ore when searching for a Gold deposit.
Extra note: This skill give 30/50/80 gold ore with (possibility 8/16/24 %)




Level 5: Using CODEX Unlock this level required: Minimum used 20 books + player level ??

Name: Hidden Coal Stash (0/3)
Effect: Grants a certain chance to find a treasure when searching for a Coal deposit.
Extra note: treasure for this level similar to long treasure search with explorer (possibility 10/20/30 %)

Name: Iron Mining Surplus (0/3)
Effect: Grants a certain chance to find Iron Ore when searching for an Iron deposit.
Extra note: This skill give ??? iron ore with (possibility 8/16/24 %)
??? will find out later

Name: Natural Gold Vein (0/3)
Effect: Grants a possibility to discover bigger Gold deposits.
Extra note: give 8/16/24% of original gold deposit (possibility 100%)



Level 6: Using CODEX Unlock this level required: Minimum used 25 books+ player level 45

Name: Two Coal in One (0/3)
Effect: Grants a certain chance to discover two Coal deposits at once.
Extra note: the second coal deposits will NOT have bigger coal deposits (possibility 8/16/24 %)

Name: Quality Gold Shafts (0/3)
Effect: Grants a certain chance to find Gold deposits that can be mined faster.
Extra note: the mine will be twice faster than normal (possibility 15/30/45 %)

Name: Ore Collector (0/3)
Effect: Shortens the search time for Ores (i.e. copper, iron, gold).
Extra note: Reduce geologist search for copper, iron, gold by 10/20/30% original time



Level 7: Using CODEX Unlock this level required: Minimum used 30 books + player level 50
Note: This is the highest level of all skill will give extra chance on top of previous skill
You can only get one out of three.

Name: Lucky Find (0/1)
Effect: Grants a certain chance to discover one more Iron or Marble deposit than the maximum.
Extra note: Give extra 15% second Iron or Marble mine on top of previous skill. Remember DID NOT mention about coal

Name: Natural Born Digger (0/1)
Effect: Grants a possibility to discover bigger deposits of all types.
Extra note: Give extra 8% of any deposits on top of previous skill

Name: Nature's Gift (0/1)
Effect: Grants a certain chance to refill a random active deposit when geologist comes back.
Extra note: : Give extra 10% any refill.
I’m uncertain about this skill, they said refill (will find out later)



Addition information:
Endless copper mine can be use on faster copper mine. effect: endless copper ore twice as fast as normal mine





Please copy this and chose what Skill tree that you would like for your geologist
Remember you only have 31 books to use

Name:

Level 1: MANUSCRIPT
Hidden Stone Stash -treasure (0/3)
Natural Copper Vein -bigger deposit- (0/3)

Level 2: MANUSCRIPT
Two Marble in One (0/3)
Quality Copper Shafts -mine faster (0/3)
Natural Stone Vein-bigger deposit (0/3)

Level 3: TOME
Natural Marble Vein -bigger deposit (0/3)
Copper Mining Surplus -chance getting ore (0/3)
Two Iron in One (0/3)

Level 4: TOME
Quality Coal Shafts-mine faster)- (0/3)
Tendentious Geologist-shorter time (0/3)
Gold Mining Surplus-chance getting ore (0/3)

Level 5: CODEX
Hidden Coal Stash-treasure (0/3)
Iron Mining Surplus-chance getting ore (0/3)
Natural Gold Vein-bigger deposit (0/3)

Level 6: CODEX
Two Coal in One (0/3)
Quality Gold Shafts -mine faster (0/3)
Ore Collector-Shorter time(0/3)

Level 7: maximum 1 CODEX
Natural Born Digger-bigger deposit (0/1)
Nature's Gift-second deposit (0/1)
Lucky Find-chance get refill (0/1)

[Danus1986]

Argh, so many awesome choices, so little points XD
Also, awesome idea, let's discuss pre's and cons ^^

Name: Danus1986

Level 1: MANUSCRIPT
Hidden Stone Stash -treasure (2/3)
Natural Copper Vein -bigger deposit- (3/3)

Level 2: MANUSCRIPT
Quality Copper Shafts -mine faster (2/3)
Natural Stone Vein-bigger deposit (3/3)

Level 3: TOME
Natural Marble Vein -bigger deposit (3/3)
Two Iron in One (2/3)

Level 4: TOME
Tendentious Geologist-shorter time (3/3)
Gold Mining Surplus-chance getting ore (2/3)
The gold mining points really depend on the amount of ore you get, but I think this is more worth it than the faster coal mines, they're already pretty fast as is.

Level 5: CODEX
Hidden Coal Stash-treasure (1/3)
Iron Mining Surplus-chance getting ore (1/3)
Natural Gold Vein-bigger deposit (3/3)

Level 6: CODEX
Quality Gold Shafts -mine faster (3/3)
Ore Collector-Shorter time(2/3)

Level 7: maximum 1 CODEX
Natural Born Digger-bigger deposit (1/1)

Nature's Gift sounds great, but in my experience bigger deposits beat the extra marble/iron, usually I'm online often enough to prevent depletion of all deposits anyway.
Lucky Find might be better than Natural Born Digger, but I'd need more info about it to consider it at the moment. Though with the Jolly geologists you can get new deposits relatively fast already.

[Chamois]

I have 10 jolly and 3 normal geologists so i don't care about faster searching time nor discover 2 deposits at once. My focus is on bigger deposits.

Level 1: MANUSCRIPT
Hidden Stone Stash -treasure (2/3)
Natural Copper Vein -bigger deposit- (3/3)

Level 2: MANUSCRIPT
Two Marble in One (0/3)
Quality Copper Shafts -mine faster (3/3)
Natural Stone Vein-bigger deposit (3/3)

Level 3: TOME
Natural Marble Vein -bigger deposit (3/3)
Copper Mining Surplus -chance getting ore (3/3)
Two Iron in One (0/3)

Level 4: TOME
Quality Coal Shafts-mine faster)- (3/3)
Tendentious Geologist-shorter time (0/3)
Gold Mining Surplus-chance getting ore (3/3)

Level 5: CODEX
Hidden Coal Stash-treasure (1/3)
Iron Mining Surplus-chance getting ore (3/3)
Natural Gold Vein-bigger deposit (3/3)

Level 6: CODEX
Two Coal in One (0/3)
Quality Gold Shafts -mine faster (0/3) (might messing my schedule)
Ore Collector-Shorter time(0/3)

Level 7: maximum 1 CODEX
Natural Born Digger-bigger deposit (1/1) (5 jolly)
Nature's Gift-second deposit (1/1) (3 normal)
Lucky Find-chance get refill (1/1) (5 jolly)

[Dorotheus]

As my player level is 44, level 6 and 7 are locked out, Level 6 skills need player level 45 to unlock, level 7 needs player level 50. So at this point in time I can't fully upgrade my geo's.

[Cassady]

All way beyond me..... dunno what all this science is about???

Over designed by 'geeky' people whatever happened to KISS? I made a manuscript and never saw it again goodness knows where it went?

[peck_ed]

All way beyond me..... dunno what all this science is about???

Over designed by 'geeky' people whatever happened to KISS? I made a manuscript and never saw it again goodness knows where it went?

Did you make a Tome straight after? They consume a single Manuscript

[Cully]

I got 2 manuscripts so far. When I access the skill tree I see them on the geologist, but not on the jolly geologists. I did do something (I have no idea what) when I was looking at the skill tree. and Upgrade my geologist? Huh? Can someone please make some idiot instructions for people like me who are totally clueless how this works?

[peck_ed]

I got 2 manuscripts so far. When I access the skill tree I see them on the geologist, but not on the jolly geologists. I did do something (I have no idea what) when I was looking at the skill tree. and Upgrade my geologist? Huh? Can someone please make some idiot instructions for people like me who are totally clueless how this works?

Well, each Geologist has their own separate tree, sounds like you may have applied to one Geologist already?

[pipl]

When this was tree thingie for geos was put forward, I was interested and positive for the addition to whatwe can each do.
I saw quite a lot of negative feedback, which was almost like shooting from the hip at the sight of something new.
But now today as I come to realise what I can get from this I am happy beyond belief.
It does mean making a heck of a lot of books of the 3 different kinds.
But that's good as I had thought on day one of this that after a week or so I'd then have to junk the buildings once the skills were learnt, but no this'll be an ongoing thing methinks.
But today before coming here it dawned on me that each seperate geo can have a different setup of skills and can find resources that help me a lot, and I mean a lottttttt.
How [ cool ] is this new skill tree ? Go and explore that tree and come back and tell me it's [ rubbish ], I dare ya.
Lots I say, and I suspect it'll make a big impact on my game as I work out new ways to get it to suit me.

Wow , I feel excited, and gushy, like I've got verbal [ lyricism ], hehehhehhe

I understand you are excited, but please be careful with words chosen,
peck_ed

[Duong_TonThat]

I have 10 jolly and 3 normal geologists so i don't care about faster searching time nor discover 2 deposits at once. My focus is on bigger deposits.

Level 1: MANUSCRIPT
Hidden Stone Stash -treasure (2/3)
Natural Copper Vein -bigger deposit- (3/3)

Level 2: MANUSCRIPT
Two Marble in One (0/3)
Quality Copper Shafts -mine faster (3/3)
Natural Stone Vein-bigger deposit (3/3)

Level 3: TOME
Natural Marble Vein -bigger deposit (3/3)
Copper Mining Surplus -chance getting ore (3/3)
Two Iron in One (0/3)

Level 4: TOME
Quality Coal Shafts-mine faster)- (3/3)
Tendentious Geologist-shorter time (0/3)
Gold Mining Surplus-chance getting ore (3/3)

Level 5: CODEX
Hidden Coal Stash-treasure (1/3)
Iron Mining Surplus-chance getting ore (3/3)
Natural Gold Vein-bigger deposit (3/3)

Level 6: CODEX ----------------------> U can''t skip level 6 if u want to upgrade level 7 skill
Two Coal in One (0/3)
Quality Gold Shafts -mine faster (0/3) (might messing my schedule)
Ore Collector-Shorter time(0/3)

Level 7: maximum 1 CODEX
Natural Born Digger-bigger deposit (1/1) (5 jolly)
Nature's Gift-second deposit (1/1) (3 normal)
Lucky Find-chance get refill (1/1) (5 jolly)

This is wrong

In the skill tree say minimum use of 30 book but also need to use minimum 5 books of level 6 skill before u can unlock level 7 skill.




It's till early, i hope u haven't upgrade ur jolly yet

To unlock level 7 skill u need to keep minimum books used of each level. (only using 5 books each level)


My apologies. This is correct skill tree
there is no minimum use of 5 books.
However when the science test is just out i'm sure that there is the MINIMUM 5 books for each level

[Cassady]

Did you make a Tome straight after? They consume a single Manuscript

Thankyou..... That explains the disappearing manuscripts not gone into a lost cybervoid after all then.

[PenguinStare]

It's till early, i hope u haven't upgrade ur jolly yet

To unlock level 7 skill u need to keep minimum books used of each level. (only using 5 books each level)

Hi, are you sure about this? The skill tree only mentions the minimum number of books that are needed in the levels below the level. I can't see any mention of the need to have 5 books at each level

[Fexno]

On the current test version it's just x books, it doesn't matter on which level they have been placed. For example if you put all the manuscripts you can in the skill tree, all tome dependent skills are also unlocked. (so the ones in level 4 as well)

[Chamois]

I need a confirmation on the "Minimum 5 books used of previous level" requirement. The earliest i can test this is putting 6 books into level 1 and 4 books into level 2 to see if level 3 can be unlocked or not. But i don't want to put 6 books into level 1 so i have to reset and lose 5/10 books.

[Fexno]

There is no "Minimum 5 books used of previous level" requirement. The only requirements are player level and minimum X books used (regardless in which level)
(so if you put 15 books in the first 2 levels, level 4 will become available)

And if you create an account on the testserver (http://www.tsotesting.com), you can test it today. (there is a mail giving you 1000 books of each type)

[Duong_TonThat]

There is no "Minimum 5 books used of previous level" requirement. The only requirements are player level and minimum X books used (regardless in which level)
(so if you put 15 books in the first 2 levels, level 4 will become available)

And if you create an account on the testserver (http://www.tsotesting.com), you can test it today. (there is a mail giving you 1000 books of each type)

This is correct, I will update the post. There is NO MINIMUM 5 books for each level
However when the science test is just out i'm sure that there is the MINIMUM 5 books for each level

[RonPope]

http://forum.tsotesting.com/threads/18839-Books-cost-increase



Books cost increase

Price of books increase with production.


Manuscripts increase step is 10 :

1 to 10:
250http://static.cdn.ubi.com/0034/archive/Forum_int/Pictures/2013_05_devsdiary/paper_simple.png + 200http://static.cdn.ubi.com/0034/archive/Forum_int/Pictures/2013_05_devsdiary/nib.png + 10 http://d19.e-loader.net/DJeP1e5JY0.png = 1 http://static.cdn.ubi.com/0034/archive/Forum_int/Pictures/2013_05_devsdiary/manuscript.png

11 to 20:
275 http://static.cdn.ubi.com/0034/archive/Forum_int/Pictures/2013_05_devsdiary/paper_simple.png + 220http://static.cdn.ubi.com/0034/archive/Forum_int/Pictures/2013_05_devsdiary/nib.png + 11 http://d19.e-loader.net/DJeP1e5JY0.png = 1 http://static.cdn.ubi.com/0034/archive/Forum_int/Pictures/2013_05_devsdiary/manuscript.png

21 to 30 : (not sure of this line)
302 http://static.cdn.ubi.com/0034/archive/Forum_int/Pictures/2013_05_devsdiary/paper_simple.png + 242http://static.cdn.ubi.com/0034/archive/Forum_int/Pictures/2013_05_devsdiary/nib.png + 12 http://d19.e-loader.net/DJeP1e5JY0.png = 1 http://static.cdn.ubi.com/0034/archive/Forum_int/Pictures/2013_05_devsdiary/manuscript.png

31 to 40 :
335 http://static.cdn.ubi.com/0034/archive/Forum_int/Pictures/2013_05_devsdiary/paper_simple.png + 265http://static.cdn.ubi.com/0034/archive/Forum_int/Pictures/2013_05_devsdiary/nib.png + 13 http://d19.e-loader.net/DJeP1e5JY0.png = 1 http://static.cdn.ubi.com/0034/archive/Forum_int/Pictures/2013_05_devsdiary/manuscript.png


Tomes step is 20 :

1 to 20:
250 http://static.cdn.ubi.com/0034/archive/Forum_int/Pictures/2013_05_devsdiary/paper_intermediate.png + 200 http://static.cdn.ubi.com/0034/archive/Forum_int/Pictures/2013_05_devsdiary/type.png + 1 http://static.cdn.ubi.com/0034/archive/Forum_int/Pictures/2013_05_devsdiary/manuscript.png = 1 http://static.cdn.ubi.com/0034/archive/Forum_int/Pictures/2013_05_devsdiary/tome.png

21 to 40 :
350 http://static.cdn.ubi.com/0034/archive/Forum_int/Pictures/2013_05_devsdiary/paper_intermediate.png + 240 http://static.cdn.ubi.com/0034/archive/Forum_int/Pictures/2013_05_devsdiary/type.png + 2 http://static.cdn.ubi.com/0034/archive/Forum_int/Pictures/2013_05_devsdiary/manuscript.png = 1 http://static.cdn.ubi.com/0034/archive/Forum_int/Pictures/2013_05_devsdiary/tome.png

41 to 60 :
420 http://static.cdn.ubi.com/0034/archive/Forum_int/Pictures/2013_05_devsdiary/paper_intermediate.png + 290 http://static.cdn.ubi.com/0034/archive/Forum_int/Pictures/2013_05_devsdiary/type.png + 3 http://static.cdn.ubi.com/0034/archive/Forum_int/Pictures/2013_05_devsdiary/manuscript.png = 1 http://static.cdn.ubi.com/0034/archive/Forum_int/Pictures/2013_05_devsdiary/tome.png


Codex step is 30 :

1 to 30 :
250 http://static.cdn.ubi.com/0034/archive/Forum_int/Pictures/2013_05_devsdiary/paper_advanced.png + 200http://static.cdn.ubi.com/0034/archive/Forum_int/Pictures/2013_05_devsdiary/bookfitting.png + 1 http://static.cdn.ubi.com/0034/archive/Forum_int/Pictures/2013_05_devsdiary/tome.png = 1 http://static.cdn.ubi.com/0034/archive/Forum_int/Pictures/2013_05_devsdiary/codex.png

31 to 60 :
375 http://static.cdn.ubi.com/0034/archive/Forum_int/Pictures/2013_05_devsdiary/paper_advanced.png + 300http://static.cdn.ubi.com/0034/archive/Forum_int/Pictures/2013_05_devsdiary/bookfitting.png + 2 http://static.cdn.ubi.com/0034/archive/Forum_int/Pictures/2013_05_devsdiary/tome.png = 1 http://static.cdn.ubi.com/0034/archive/Forum_int/Pictures/2013_05_devsdiary/codex.png

61 to 90 :
560 http://static.cdn.ubi.com/0034/archive/Forum_int/Pictures/2013_05_devsdiary/paper_advanced.png + 400http://static.cdn.ubi.com/0034/archive/Forum_int/Pictures/2013_05_devsdiary/bookfitting.png + 3 http://static.cdn.ubi.com/0034/archive/Forum_int/Pictures/2013_05_devsdiary/tome.png = 1 http://static.cdn.ubi.com/0034/archive/Forum_int/Pictures/2013_05_devsdiary/codex.png


Given the cost going up by a lot. you might want to consider saving books for general. or max only 1 geo.

NOTICE cost of manuscript going up in gold every 10 books. and notice the cost of tomes using x2 manuscripts and x3manuscripts.

[Themistocles]

Somehow I feel that the cost of getting those boons is so high that by the time you can afford to get them, you probably don't need them anymore. Just my 2 cents of course.

[Tridom]

Level 1: MANUSCRIPT
Hidden Stone Stash -treasure (3/3)
Natural Copper Vein -bigger deposit- (3/3)

Level 2: MANUSCRIPT
Two Marble in One (3/3)
Quality Copper Shafts -mine faster (3/3)
Natural Stone Vein-bigger deposit (0/3)

Level 3: TOME
Natural Marble Vein -bigger deposit (3/3)
Copper Mining Surplus -chance getting ore (3/3)
Two Iron in One (0/3)

Level 4: TOME
Quality Coal Shafts-mine faster)- (0/3)
Tendentious Geologist-shorter time (0/3)
Gold Mining Surplus-chance getting ore (3/3)

Level 5: CODEX
Hidden Coal Stash-treasure (0/3)
Iron Mining Surplus-chance getting ore (0/3)
Natural Gold Vein-bigger deposit (3/3)

Level 6: CODEX
Two Coal in One (0/3)
Quality Gold Shafts -mine faster (3/3)
Ore Collector-Shorter time(3/3)

Level 7: maximum 1 CODEX
Natural Born Digger-bigger deposit (0/1)
Nature's Gift-second deposit (1/1)
Lucky Find-chance get refill (0/1)



This would be my Skill.

Here is why: I have 6 Jolly, but because of Increasing costs on Every Book you make, i not gona max out on Skill more then 2 Jollys. So i would have to resend them over and over again, for stuff thats moste valuable. This is why i take Ore collector.

Copper/Marble and Gold Ore are most valuable Resources you can get with this strategy. Iron however is easier to get on normal ways because of 10 Mines you can have if you want.

In Tier 1 i put 12 Skills to save 2 Tomes because there are no really valuable usage on them in Tier2 beside the skills i gona feel with other 9 Tomes.

Coal is a waiste of books. our Current price for Coal are 5.5gc for 1000. so its way easier to buy it on TO, and safe 6 licenses on Coalmines.

10% to Refill means if you send your jolly 10 times you will get it once. to send it 10 times you need 20 Hours. and you should be online every 2 hours to resend. Makes just no sence for me. This skill would be only nice if you have like Army of jollys. So you can refill 1 mine every 2 or 4 Hours.

[RonPope]

10% to Refill means if you send your jolly 10 times you will get it once. to send it 10 times you need 20 Hours. and you should be online every 2 hours to resend. Makes just no sence for me. This skill would be only nice if you have like Army of jollys. So you can refill 1 mine every 2 or 4 Hours.

Also. I believe that refill doesn't mean it goes back to its max capacity when you started. It gives you only like +50 or something added to a random mine.
That's kind of chump change. Plus its too random.

It's better to just go with Natural Born Digger. Safe bet long term.

[Dorotheus]

20 hours to do 10 geo searches. Why are you assuming you have to look for gold to get the chance of a refill. The text says refill a random deposit, from that it's a search for any deposit. 1 jolly sent on copper searches should refill all deposits in under 15.75 hours.

[Duong_TonThat]

http://forum.tsotesting.com/threads/18839-Books-cost-increase




Given the cost going up by a lot. you might want to consider saving books for general. or max only 1 geo.

NOTICE cost of manuscript going up in gold every 10 books. and notice the cost of tomes using x2 manuscripts and x3manuscripts.

Thank you, i update this link to my original

[Gytha_Ogg]

I won't be fully upgrading my geos as I only wanted deeper copper deposits, going to get a head start on the other specialists for when they go live instead

[Markus06]

I think system is too slow and i wish we could have more choices...