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You can invest a maximum of 31 books in your geologist. All skills have three levels excepts for the highest three (Lucky Find, Natural Born Digger, Nature's Gift), those only have one. Since the three highest skills require 30 books invested in the levels below, you can only choose one of these
Type: Manuscript
http://www.thesettlersonlinewiki.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/icon_hidden_stash_stone.png Hidden Stone Stash
http://www.thesettlersonlinewiki.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/icon_natural_vein_copper.png Natural Copper Vein
http://www.thesettlersonlinewiki.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/icon_two_in_one_marble.png Two Marble in One *
http://www.thesettlersonlinewiki.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/icon_quality_shaft_copper.png Quality Copper Mineshafts
http://www.thesettlersonlinewiki.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/icon_natural_vein_stone.png Natural Stone Vein
Type: Tome
http://www.thesettlersonlinewiki.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/icon_natural_vein_marble.png Natural Marble Vein
http://www.thesettlersonlinewiki.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/icon_mining_surplus_copper.png Copper Mining Surplus
http://www.thesettlersonlinewiki.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/icon_two_in_one_iron.png Two Iron in One *
http://www.thesettlersonlinewiki.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/icon_quality_shaft_coal.png Quality Coal Mineshafts
http://www.thesettlersonlinewiki.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/icon_tendentious_geologist.png Tendentious Geologist
http://www.thesettlersonlinewiki.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/icon_mining_surplus_gold.png Gold Mining Surplus
Type: Codex
http://www.thesettlersonlinewiki.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/icon_hidden_stash_coal.png Hidden Coal Stash
http://www.thesettlersonlinewiki.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/icon_mining_surplus_iron.png Iron Mining Surplus
http://www.thesettlersonlinewiki.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/icon_natural_vein_gold.png Natural Gold Vein
http://www.thesettlersonlinewiki.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/icon_two_in_one_coal.png Two Coal in One *
http://www.thesettlersonlinewiki.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/icon_quality_shaft_gold.png Quality Gold Mineshafts
http://www.thesettlersonlinewiki.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/icon_ore_collector.png Ore Collector
http://www.thesettlersonlinewiki.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/icon_lucky_find.png Lucky Find
http://www.thesettlersonlinewiki.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/icon_natural_vein_all.png Natural Born Digger
http://www.thesettlersonlinewiki.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/icon_natures_gift.png Nature's Gift
* The bonus deposit will NOT benefit from other skills that can upgrade these kind of deposits
http://www.thesettlersonlinewiki.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/icon_hidden_stash_stone.pngHidden Stone Stash
Type: Manuscript
Level 1: Gives a 10% chance of finding treasure when searching for a Stone deposit.
Level 2: Gives a 20% chance of finding treasure when searching for a Stone deposit.
Level 3: Gives a 30% chance of finding treasure when searching for a Stone deposit.
Requirements: Player level 14 required
http://www.thesettlersonlinewiki.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/icon_natural_vein_copper.pngNatural Copper Vein
Type: Manuscript
Level 1: Discover 5% bigger Copper deposits.
Level 2: Discover 10% bigger Copper deposits.
Level 3: Discover 14% bigger Copper deposits.
Requirements: Player level 14 required
http://www.thesettlersonlinewiki.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/icon_two_in_one_marble.pngTwo Marble in One
Type: Manuscript
Level 1: Gives a 8% chance of discovering two Marble deposits at once.
Level 2: Gives a 16% chance of discovering two Marble deposits at once.
Level 3: Gives a 24% chance of discovering two Marble deposits at once.
Requirements: Player level 18 required
Requires 5 books in the levels below
* The bonus deposit will NOT benefit from http://www.thesettlersonlinewiki.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/icon_natural_vein_marble.png Natural Marble Vein
http://www.thesettlersonlinewiki.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/icon_quality_shaft_copper.pngQuality Copper Mineshafts
Type: Manuscript
Level 1: Gives a 15% chance of finding Copper deposits that can be mined faster.
Level 2: Gives a 30% chance of finding Copper deposits that can be mined faster.
Level 3: Gives a 45% chance of finding Copper deposits that can be mined faster.
Requirements: Player level 18 required
Requires 5 books in the levels below
http://www.thesettlersonlinewiki.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/icon_natural_vein_stone.pngNatural Stone Vein
Type: Manuscript
Level 1: Discover 8% bigger Stone deposits.
Level 2: Discover 15% bigger Stone deposits.
Level 3: Discover 24% bigger Stone deposits.
Requirements: Player level 18 required
Requires 5 books in the levels below
http://www.thesettlersonlinewiki.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/icon_natural_vein_marble.pngNatural Marble Vein
Type: Tome
Level 1: Discover 8% bigger Marble deposits.
Level 2: Discover 15% bigger Marble deposits.
Level 3: Discover 24% bigger Marble deposits.
Requirements: Player level 23 required
Requires 10 books in the levels below
http://www.thesettlersonlinewiki.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/icon_mining_surplus_copper.pngCopper Mining Surplus
Type: Tome
Level 1: Gives a 8% chance of finding mined Copper when searching for a Copper deposit.
Level 2: Gives a 16% chance of finding mined Copper when searching for a Copper deposit.
Level 3: Gives a 24% chance of finding mined Copper when searching for a Copper deposit.
Requirements: Player level 23 required
Requires 10 books in the levels below
http://www.thesettlersonlinewiki.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/icon_two_in_one_iron.pngTwo Iron in One
Type: Tome
Level 1: Gives a 8% chance of discovering two Iron deposits at once.
Level 2: Gives a 16% chance of discovering two Iron deposits at once.
Level 3: Gives a 24% chance of discovering two Iron deposits at once.
Requirements: Player level 23 required
Requires 10 books in the levels below
* The bonus deposit will NOT benefit from http://www.thesettlersonlinewiki.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/icon_mining_surplus_iron.png Iron Mining Surplus
http://www.thesettlersonlinewiki.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/icon_quality_shaft_coal.pngQuality Coal Mineshafts
Type: Tome
Level 1: Gives a 15% chance of finding Coal deposits that can be mined faster.
Level 2: Gives a 30% chance of finding Coal deposits that can be mined faster.
Level 3: Gives a 45% chance of finding Coal deposits that can be mined faster.
Requirements: Player level 32 required
Requires 15 books in the levels below
http://www.thesettlersonlinewiki.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/icon_tendentious_geologist.pngTendentious Geologist
Type: Tome
Level 1: Reduces the search time for Minerals (Stone, Marble, Coal) by 9%.
Level 2: Reduces the search time for Minerals (Stone, Marble, Coal) by 19%.
Level 3: Reduces the search time for Minerals (Stone, Marble, Coal) by 30%.
Requirements: Player level 32 required
Requires 15 books in the levels below
http://www.thesettlersonlinewiki.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/icon_mining_surplus_gold.pngGold Mining Surplus
Type: Tome
Level 1: Gives a 8% chance of finding mined Gold when searching for a Gold deposit.
Level 2: Gives a 16% chance of finding mined Gold when searching for a Gold deposit.
Level 3: Gives a 24% chance of finding mined Gold when searching for a Gold deposit.
Requirements: Player level 32 required
Requires 15 books in the levels below
http://www.thesettlersonlinewiki.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/icon_hidden_stash_coal.pngHidden Coal Stash
Type: Codex
Level 1: Grants a 10% chance to find treasure when searching a Coal deposit.
Level 2: Grants a 20% chance to find treasure when searching a Coal deposit.
Level 3: Grants a 30% chance to find treasure when searching a Coal deposit.
Requirements: Player level 40 required
Requires 20 books in the levels below
http://www.thesettlersonlinewiki.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/icon_mining_surplus_iron.pngIron Mining Surplus
Type: Codex
Level 1: Gives a 8% chance of finding mined Iron when searching for an Iron deposit.
Level 2: Gives a 16% chance of finding mined Iron when searching for an Iron deposit.
Level 3: Gives a 24% chance of finding mined Iron when searching for an Iron deposit.
Requirements: Player level 40 required
Requires 20 books in the levels below
http://www.thesettlersonlinewiki.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/icon_natural_vein_gold.pngNatural Gold Vein
Type: Codex
Level 1: Discover 8% bigger Gold deposits.
Level 2: Discover 15% bigger Gold deposits.
Level 3: Discover 24% bigger Gold deposits.
Requirements: Player level 40 required
Requires 20 books in the levels below
http://www.thesettlersonlinewiki.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/icon_two_in_one_coal.pngTwo Coal in One
Type: Codex
Level 1: Gives a 8% chance of discovering two Coal deposits at once.
Level 2: Gives a 16% chance of discovering two Coal deposits at once.
Level 3: Gives a 24% chance of discovering two Coal deposits at once.
Requirements: Player level 45 required
Requires 25 books in the levels below
* The bonus deposit will NOT benefit from http://www.thesettlersonlinewiki.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/icon_quality_shaft_coal.png Quality Coal Mineshafts
http://www.thesettlersonlinewiki.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/icon_quality_shaft_gold.pngQuality Gold Mineshafts
Type: Codex
Level 1: Gives a 15% chance of finding Gold deposits that can be mined faster.
Level 2: Gives a 30% chance of finding Gold deposits that can be mined faster.
Level 3: Gives a 45% chance of finding Gold deposits that can be mined faster.
Requirements: Player level 45 required
Requires 25 books in the levels below
http://www.thesettlersonlinewiki.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/icon_ore_collector.pngOre Collector
Type: Codex
Level 1: Reduces the search time for Ore (Copper, Iron, Gold) by 9%.
Level 2: Reduces the search time for Ore (Copper, Iron, Gold) by 19%.
Level 3: Reduces the search time for Ore (Copper, Iron, Gold) by 30%.
Requirements: Player level 45 required
Requires 25 books in the levels below
http://www.thesettlersonlinewiki.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/icon_lucky_find.pngLucky Find
Type: Codex
Level 1: Gives a 15% chance of discovering one more Iron or Marble deposit than the maximum.
Requirements: Player level 50 required
Requires 30 books in the levels below
http://www.thesettlersonlinewiki.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/icon_natural_vein_all.pngNatural Born Digger
Type: Codex
Level 1: Discover 8% bigger deposits of all types.
Requirements: Player level 50 required
Requires 30 books in the levels below
http://www.thesettlersonlinewiki.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/icon_natures_gift.pngNature's Gift
Type: Codex
Level 1: Gives a 10% chance of refilling a random active deposit.
Requirements: Player level 50 required
Requires 30 books in the levels below
Updates:
2013-06-19: Created thread
chynjihtsuey
21.06.13, 08:53
this skill say have a % change to find treasure
....but as i test many time
when you have a stone deposit available to find ... then you have 100% chance find a treasure (level 1 2 3 is same 100%)
when you had find all stone deposit ...then the geologist will fail to find a stone deposit and 0% change find a treasure....
correct, for now I assume it is a bug that will be fixed in a next maintenance.
All skills that have a chance to do something seem to do it 100% of the time.
correct, for now I assume it is a bug that will be fixed in a next maintenance.
All skills that have a chance to do something seem to do it 100% of the time.
this is now fixed
any word if size bonuses apply to the double find skills?
Not officially, but the at the moment the bonus deposits do not benefit from other "improving" skills, they do apply to the "normal" deposit
I thought that was supposed to be fixed now. I haven't tried it, but that's the message we received on the test server forums.
if it doesnt apply the bonus to multiples, is that a bug that will be fixed? has this been stated somewhere? i dont mind spending points perhaps if it will be rectified later
if it doesnt apply the bonus to multiples, is that a bug that will be fixed? has this been stated somewhere? i dont mind spending points perhaps if it will be rectified later
Good question, but don't know the answer. You can interpret the skill descriptions in both ways.
awesome tread very handy :D
For those that are wondering if you can skip "lines" while specializing your geologist.
Do note that these screenshots are from the current test server, and I wouldn't recommend anyone to use these particular setups. They are just to show that you can skip "lines"
Notice that none of the first Tome "line" is selected:
http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/7199/260x.png
Notice that none of the first Codex "line" is selected:
I had to select 1 from the first Tome "line" because of the the required amount of books
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/9669/pmyo.png
Does anyone know what resources I can get from hidden coal stash skill? If there is chance for advanced resources (granite, ew, titan ore) than it might be worth it but if it is anything less than that then it is useless skill
topgearfan
04.08.13, 09:38
http://www.thesettlersonlinewiki.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/icon_natures_gift.pngNature's Gift
Type: Codex
Level 1: Gives a 10% chance of refilling a random active deposit.
Requirements: Player level 50 required
Requires 30 books in the levels below
Anyone know exactly how this skill works in live server?
Does this fill for example a gold mine to 300 units or maybe 374 units (if your geo has the skill)?
Does this fill a completely random deposit (thats under 100%?) or just 1 of the type of deposit you are searching for?
Does this skill only activate if search for deposit was successful?
Is there a mail message if a deposit is refilled?
Does this fill for example a gold mine to 300 units or maybe 374 units (if your geo has the skill)?
Sorry not sure, but it would surprise me if the refill would be capped at the original size
Does this fill a completely random deposit (thats under 100%?) or just 1 of the type of deposit you are searching for?
Completely random, even deposits where you don't have a mine
Does this skill only activate if search for deposit was successful?
Yes (when it was on the test server it was bugged)
Is there a mail message if a deposit is refilled?
Not sure, but don't think so. It would be just like everything else, a message in your News
Regarding "Natures gift" (the 10% chance of refilling a deposit), it seems to be refilling the deposit you´re searching for (copper, in my case).
I got two refills, for full mines, going from 827 copper ore to 847 ore. I really hope this skill is better than it seems, but for the moment, I regret picking it over the 8% larger deposits-one.
DeaSiciliana
06.08.13, 12:21
http://www.thesettlersonlinewiki.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/icon_natures_gift.pngNature's Gift
Type: Codex
Level 1: Gives a 10% chance of refilling a random active deposit.
Requirements: Player level 50 required
Requires 30 books in the levels below
I have a big problem with this SPECIAL (sarcastic) gift...
I will explain this using my Jolly Geologist experiments.
A regular copper mine on S4 is 720
Since the geo has the skill to discover 15% bigger deposits, and in my country 720/100*15 is 108, he should discover deposits with 720+108=828 copper ore.
BUT my geo find always 827 copper ore, not big deals, we know how developers do math in this game.
NOW, if I send the geo several times, sometime I get the Nature's Gift.
BIG SURPRISE
Gives a 10% chance of refilling a currently mined deposit
what will you expect reading this description?
well, I tell you what append when after several try my geo find the Nature's Gift:
the discovered copper ore deposit is 847. Yep, you get an instant "refill" of 20 extra copper yayyyy. lets see, 3% refill will be 21.6 copper ore, so we are way below 3%, and they call it REFILL.
One more thing, was it not suppose to be a "random active deposit"???
There is nothing random in this, and and does not go to an active deposit but only apply to the deposit that the geo just discover. What they call "Gives a 10% chance of refilling a random active deposit" should be called "Gives a 10% chance of discover less than 3% bigger deposit"
If this is not a bug, I suggest everybody to avoid the Nature's Gift and get the Natural Born Digger, it will give 8% bigger deposits all the time (not only 10% of the time).
Thanks
topgearfan
07.08.13, 01:01
Thank you all for answers. :)
Does anyone know what resources I can get from hidden coal stash skill? If there is chance for advanced resources (granite, ew, titan ore) than it might be worth it but if it is anything less than that then it is useless skill
a Polish site said something about 10-30 exotic wood logs/granite;
got exotic wood logs, granite, gold bars and (maybe) saltpeter or titan; 10-50
Has anyone calculated best way to spread books? At a high level I don't care about little treasures, they are just too small.
I like to go for speed and higher deposits. Here is my first full tree;
http://i.imgur.com/IFcymJZ.png
Btw Is it normal that gems required for resetting tree goes bigger all the time? I think it started on 300 gems, when i was close to top 1400 gems and now 1550 gems?
Has anyone calculated best way to spread books? At a high level I don't care about little treasures, they are just too small.
I like to go for speed and higher deposits. Here is my first full tree;
I imagine this depends on what you wish to get from your geologist, so there really isn't a "best way"
Btw Is it normal that gems required for resetting tree goes bigger all the time? I think it started on 300 gems, when i was close to top 1400 gems and now 1550 gems?
Sounds like the costs just rises per book added
topgearfan
18.09.13, 09:32
now theres a message on test server: "geologists skill natures gift has been fixed". any idea what it means?
i am doing the prudence quest and have too invest 6 codex in my explorer,have worked on this for months and i am down to 1 codex but know i am told my explorer has reached his limit in books so it looks like i have invested too many in the lower level is the only way of taking 1 off by paying 1500 gems and starting again?
au, yes most foolish quest in the game. next attempt will cost even more time if you don't hit the reset button and lose half the books. since it will now cost more books to make a bigger one.
personally I gave up on these quests, just using as many manuscripts as possible and pick the skills I want.
As NightEye suggests, use the books to specialize your explorers the way you want. Not just to finish the quest.
If you really want to complete the quest I would suggest to upgrade a new Explorer. This still requires you to start again and it might take more time, but saves 1500 gems. Even if you don't mind spending gems I would suggest to buy a Savage Scout (995 gems) and upgrade that one, in stead of resetting.
A way for it to take slightly less time is the reset for free, but that means you only get half of your books back. Warning the costs for making a book won't decrease while losing books like this.
it is a savage scout i am using and thank you for the advice
topgearfan
20.11.13, 22:34
now theres a message on test server: "geologists skill natures gift has been fixed". any idea what it means?
so no idea what that fix was and if its gone live yet?
so no idea what that fix was and if its gone live yet?
Can't find it in the changelogs, so I expect it didn't go live yet, also not sure what this fix would fix, but I heard some rumours that it sometimes didn't refill a deposit. Another things I've read is that it refilled deposits without a mine on it, so might be that.
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