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fishslice
27.06.13, 17:50
See quote below



Each game world has the same task: reach 100% as soon as possible.
The faster your game world reaches 100%, the more rewards you get.
It will be possible to track the current progress through a button below the avatar interface.
During the first phase of the event, each game world fights alone for its rewards.
Rewards for the first phase: Gems and Hired Troops. The amount of these rewards will depend on the performance of your game world (how fast it reaches 100%).

So we have to reach 100% and ideally fast. Great but what is 100%, is it 1 balloon donated per active player or a zillion balloons donated per active player. The End of the World event was fun and I enjoyed doing it for the sake of doing it. I also made a lot of friends along the way, but, the way BB implemented the event and the post event feedback was rubbish.

This time BB ask us to reach 100% with no idea what 100% is. Its just another huge resource sink to take resources out of the game without explaining the rules. Its like asking me to run a race without telling me how fast to run or how far to run - its a little unfair in my opinion.

Needless to say, I will do some of the stuff for the fun of it but I am not expecting the same effort as last time in pulling together to achieve an unknown goal!

PChamps
27.06.13, 18:17
Confirmation of what 100% is would be great. It cant be 1 balloon per active player as we would already be 100% from the hundreds of players who have already donated hundreds of balloons. BB can you confirm the amount per player to reach 100% this way I can say ok I have done my 100% and I am now hitting 200%, 300% etc etc.

No surprise German servers are already leading.

As fishslice has said its not nice running a race without knowing the distance of the course.

fishslice
27.06.13, 18:21
Call me a pessimist PChamps but last time (eotw event) I personally donated over 500k of weapons to others as will as actively participating. I think many people lied about how many adventures they did as the result didn't tally with comments.

If I knew what 100% meant I would be more inclined to actively support.....

DocAckersonCO1
27.06.13, 18:25
no server will get 100% if first 11 hours are indication.. 2.29 % for top server = 20% after four days.

Dorotheus
27.06.13, 18:27
And who are the top servers, well slap me with a haddock and call me Jim, it's those oldest servers again.

SwampHen
27.06.13, 18:31
I agree fishslice. What is 100%? After 24 hours, Sandycove is on 1%, and I know many players on chat are doing their best. What is 100%?

A display that said how many balloons to go would be very helpful.

DocAckersonCO1
27.06.13, 18:38
ah, its now 12 hours
and if sandy cove does same for 4 more days.. they will have 8 % more or so..

ZkilfinG
27.06.13, 19:05
I agree with the OP. I'm going to do some of it, just to experience it, but I'm not going to throw away my resources for an uncertain goal that depends on the whole server doing the same. I don't know where the fun in SvS is supposed to come from?

MOD_Daz
27.06.13, 19:06
The first four days of the event are for qualification. Each server has to reach a certain number of gathered balloons in this time. If the server does not manage to reach this amount, it will be taken out of the competion, which starts after the qualifying round.

Read the event window. We don't need to reach 100% this round!

PChamps
27.06.13, 19:09
The first four days of the event are for qualification. Each server has to reach a certain number of gathered balloons in this time. If the server does not manage to reach this amount, it will be taken out of the competion, which starts after the qualifying round.

Read the event window. We don't need to reach 100% this round!

THE FIRST PHASE OF THE EVENTKey facts related to the first phase of the event:

The first phase will last approx. 4 days.
This period can be used not only to learn how to get balloons, but also to win rewards.
Each game world has the same task: reach 100% as soon as possible.
The faster your game world reaches 100%, the more rewards you get.
It will be possible to track the current progress through a button below the avatar interface.
During the first phase of the event, each game world fights alone for its rewards.
Rewards for the first phase: Gems and Hired Troops. The amount of these rewards will depend on the performance of your game world (how fast it reaches 100%).
The first phase is needed to make sure the script responsible for calculating results is working properly and to make sure the competition is well balanced.

Important: After your game world reaches 100% during the first phase, the ability to hand out balloons to your game world will be temporarily disabled. Furthermore, it will not be possible to get new balloons (exception: quest rewards). Donating and receiving new balloons will be activated again once the second phase of the event starts.


I am pretty sure we do from reading the above. I have even put where it says 100% in bold in case you did not read it.

Iolanthe
27.06.13, 19:13
I was going to start a separate thread for this but with the last few posts it seems to fit in here:

It's not at all clear what goal a server must reach just to qualify for the second portion.

The text in the event window says:


Event Window

The first four days of the event are for qualification.

Each server has to reach a certain number of gathered balloons during this time. If a server does not manage to reach this amount, it will be taken out of the competition, which starts right after the qualifying round. Furthermore, all servers reaching the amount will get a great reward -> the Settlers 2 Headquarters.

The amount needed to "qualify" is not specified. Though the Settlers 2 Headquarters is offered as a reward for reaching it.


The Dev Diary says:


Diary

Each game world has the same task: reach 100% as soon as possible.

The faster your game world reaches 100%, the more rewards you get.

Rewards for the first phase: Gems and Hired Troops. The amount of these rewards will depend on the performance of your game world (how fast it reaches 100%).

It is clear we are rewarded for reaching 100%, though here the Headquarters mentioned in-game is missing, but it doesn't say we must reach 100% to qualify.

Further down the Diary the Headquarters reappears but as a reward for the second phase:


Diary

The summary of 3 main rewards (second phase)
Rewards for reaching 100%
Settlers 2 headquarters, 100x Gems, 10x Change Skin Buff

Which seems to be confirmed here, again as a reward for the Second but not mentioned a reward for reaching 100% on the First from which it is clearly absent:


Diary

If my game world reaches – for example – 200%, what rewards will we get?

In this case all active players from your game world will get:
Settlers 2 headquarters (for 100%)
600x Gems (100 for 100%, 200 for 150% and 300 for 200%)
3x Retro adventure (1 for 150% and 2 for 200%)
60x Change Skin Buff (10 for 100%, 20 for 150% and 30 for 200%)

Please keep in mind that the rewards for respective percentage levels (100%, 150% and 200%) are not all rewards you can get. There is a special initial phase that can guarantee you additional Gems and Hired Troops (depending on the performance of your game world). Remember that two international tasks can provide you even more Gems and other rewards!

Even something as simple as the rewards for the first phase aren't clear and server-wide confusion over actual requirements is causing people to build different strategies as this conflicting info is interpreted in different ways, add in the confusion Fishslice and earlier posters have mentioned above (http://forum.thesettlersonline.com/threads/24529-Why-I-probably-wont-participate-in-the-20th-Anniversary-Event?p=228096&viewfull=1#post228096) and a little clarity would be very much appreciated before any number of people make decisions based on best guesses and cross their fingers whilst hoping they've read correctly.

Since the in-game text clearly states:


Event Window

If the server does not manage to reach this amount, it will be taken out of the competition, which starts right after the qualifying round.

Guessing what to do at all is something of a gamble, guessing wrong means the event could well be over before it begins.

PChamps
27.06.13, 19:15
The worry is even the mod does not sound clear in knowing what we need to do!!

BobLurker
27.06.13, 19:15
This event will need a serious re-think at the end of the first phase, because at current rates not even the German servers will reach 100%. BB will have to re-jig things for the second phase.

MOD_Daz
27.06.13, 19:29
The worry is even the mod does not sound clear in knowing what we need to do!!

The balloons collected during the qualifying round will count towards the competion rounds which starts AFTER the four day qualifying round. It's clear enough in the description in the event window

imyourmum
27.06.13, 19:34
No. Balloons acquired during the first phase of the event will NOT affect the second phase results. It means that all balloons you get during the first phase should be used in that specific time slot - they will lose their value when the first phase ends.

PChamps
27.06.13, 19:35
The balloons collected during the qualifying round will count towards the competion rounds which starts AFTER the four day qualifying round. It's clear enough in the description in the event window

And where does it say that??? I have just read the text 3 times I cannot see it saying balloons collecting during the qualifying round will count in competition the actual text on the event page on the forum by BB_Dama says

THE SECOND PHASE OF THE EVENTKey facts related to the second phase of the event:

The balloons from the first phase will not be included in second phase results.
During the second phase of the event, certain game worlds will work together (results) in order to achieve a common goal and compete with servers that have stronger economies.
The goal is to reach high scores (percentage).
3 types of rewards that every game world can get: reaching 100%, 150% and 200%.
2 international rewards: the fastest game world and the game world that donated the most balloons during the second phase.

The bold text says they wont count. Your and mine definition of clear are obviously very different, because what you are saying is going against what the event post says.

Mechanix
27.06.13, 19:36
The target of the event is quite clear: take all resources you have for some cheap reward in a big rat race....donation of ballons and all the explanation is just bla, bla, bla...no clear rules, no target...
At this moment I have almost 20k ballons to donate and I feel...well, not confortable...let's see after 4 days what will happen...

DocAckersonCO1
27.06.13, 20:03
"•Each game world has the same task: reach 100% as soon as possible."
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says nothing about getting less
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even top server won't get 100%

Mechanix
27.06.13, 20:15
"•Each game world has the same task: reach 100% as soon as possible."
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says nothing about getting less
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even top server won't get 100%

Assuming you are right (I believe you are, unless BB interfere), do you see all the frustration from ALL the servers/players when they realize lost resources for nothing (expect "fun")???

MOD_Daz
27.06.13, 20:21
And where does it say that??? I have just read the text 3 times I cannot see it saying balloons collecting during the qualifying round will count in competition the actual text on the event page on the forum by BB_Dama says

THE SECOND PHASE OF THE EVENTKey facts related to the second phase of the event:

The balloons from the first phase will not be included in second phase results.
During the second phase of the event, certain game worlds will work together (results) in order to achieve a common goal and compete with servers that have stronger economies.
The goal is to reach high scores (percentage).
3 types of rewards that every game world can get: reaching 100%, 150% and 200%.
2 international rewards: the fastest game world and the game world that donated the most balloons during the second phase.

The bold text says they wont count. Your and mine definition of clear are obviously very different, because what you are saying is going against what the event post says.

We are not even in the first phase yet. We are still under the 4 day qualifying round. Balloons collected during the qualifying round will count towards the first phase.

DocAckersonCO1
27.06.13, 20:22
Assuming you are right (I believe you are, unless BB interfere), do you see all the frustration from ALL the servers/players when they realize lost resources for nothing (expect "fun")???
my guess is BB will do something like change event

DocAckersonCO1
27.06.13, 20:26
The balloons collected during the qualifying round will count towards the competion rounds which starts AFTER the four day qualifying round. It's clear enough in the description in the event window

if so..why say that?

PChamps
27.06.13, 20:27
We are not even in the first phase yet. We are still under the 4 day qualifying round. Balloons collected during the qualifying round will count towards the first phase.

MOD_Daz please point me to where this information is that you keep posting? as it is not in the event window in game and the official post (http://forum.thesettlersonline.com/threads/24475-Dev-Diary-Settler-Anniversary) does not tally up with what you are saying either. The official post makes it sound as if we are in phase 1 and mentions nothing about a qualifying round before the phases and the in game event window mentions nothing about the balloons collected will count. Instead of keep replying saying something that sounds totally wrong please back it up with a link to where it says this.

DocAckersonCO1
27.06.13, 20:28
not your fault Daz..you did not make event. : )

PChamps
27.06.13, 20:30
The event will be split into two phases that are not connected.
The first phase will last approx. 4 days, the second phase will start after that.

THE FIRST PHASE OF THE EVENTKey facts related to the first phase of the event:

The first phase will last approx. 4 days.
This period can be used not only to learn how to get balloons, but also to win rewards.
Each game world has the same task: reach 100% as soon as possible.
The faster your game world reaches 100%, the more rewards you get.
It will be possible to track the current progress through a button below the avatar interface.
During the first phase of the event, each game world fights alone for its rewards.
Rewards for the first phase: Gems and Hired Troops. The amount of these rewards will depend on the performance of your game world (how fast it reaches 100%).
The first phase is needed to make sure the script responsible for calculating results is working properly and to make sure the competition is well balanced.

This sounds like what we are in at the moment which is named phase 1
Learning how to get balloons surely is what we are doing now?
To make sure the script responsible for calculating results is working again surely that is what is happening now?

normankirk
27.06.13, 20:40
Grabs haddock *slap*

Juhana_III
27.06.13, 21:03
I think it's purposefully vague because it's impossible (also for the devs) to predict how many balloons there will be. And so we're given percentages so that the exact requirements can be quietly changed if it looks like too many or too few balloons are being made.

"Okay, make 500 balloonthingies to get a reward! *hey psst, sir, they've already made 5000 of them* err, uh, I meant, make 50000 balloonthingies!"

Same with the "a certain number" qualification requirement for second phase. They'll set the bar once they see what'll be a nice limit to include a nice number of servers (but not those who did nothing).

But yes, it does feel like starting a race of "start running and later we'll let you know when you can stop". So meh. But, I was pretty bored with the game at this point, couldn't be [removed] to do more adventures etc, so new content does seem kinda fresh so I do appreciate it.

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I guess, in theory, if you could mobilize entire servers or groups of servers, you could stick it to the man by making a crapton of ballons, but donating only a few of them. Then maybe donating gazillions at once. Or something. :P

Juhana_III

Please don't use profanity on the forum :(.

Sinister-King

Juhana_III
27.06.13, 23:02
Eh? I'm often surprised at what counts as magic words over here. That was unintentional, sorry.

PChamps
28.06.13, 06:09
Mod_Daz do you care to reply please after you have said many times that the information is clear and you seem to be getting information from somewhere else? To repeat what I last said

The event will be split into two phases that are not connected.
The first phase will last approx. 4 days, the second phase will start after that.

THE FIRST PHASE OF THE EVENTKey facts related to the first phase of the event:

The first phase will last approx. 4 days.
This period can be used not only to learn how to get balloons, but also to win rewards.
Each game world has the same task: reach 100% as soon as possible.
The faster your game world reaches 100%, the more rewards you get.
It will be possible to track the current progress through a button below the avatar interface.
During the first phase of the event, each game world fights alone for its rewards.
Rewards for the first phase: Gems and Hired Troops. The amount of these rewards will depend on the performance of your game world (how fast it reaches 100%).
The first phase is needed to make sure the script responsible for calculating results is working properly and to make sure the competition is well balanced.

This sounds like what we are in at the moment which is named phase 1
Learning how to get balloons surely is what we are doing now?
To make sure the script responsible for calculating results is working again surely that is what is happening now?

fishslice
28.06.13, 08:28
Well just over 24 hours in and a little over 4% of 100% target achieved - shame its only 4 days and not 25. As per the below there may be prizes depending upon game world performance - I wonder what it will be for achieving less than 20% of the target......


Rewards for the first phase of the event
The first phase will take approx. 4 days. During this time frame, each game world can win Gems and Hired Troops. The actual amount of these rewards will depend on game world performance during the first phase of the event.


Still cant see how BB expect anyone to reach 100% during the second phase (per the below) unless we know what 100% means so unfortunately 25% of the way through the duration of the first phase and I still haven't changed my mind - not worth doing!



The summary of 3 main rewards (second phase)

Rewards for reaching 100%
Settlers 2 headquarters, 100x Gems, 10x Change Skin Buff

Jugglaz
28.06.13, 08:44
See quote below



So we have to reach 100% and ideally fast. Great but what is 100%, is it 1 balloon donated per active player or a zillion balloons donated per active player. The End of the World event was fun and I enjoyed doing it for the sake of doing it. I also made a lot of friends along the way, but, the way BB implemented the event and the post event feedback was rubbish.

This time BB ask us to reach 100% with no idea what 100% is. Its just another huge resource sink to take resources out of the game without explaining the rules. Its like asking me to run a race without telling me how fast to run or how far to run - its a little unfair in my opinion.

Needless to say, I will do some of the stuff for the fun of it but I am not expecting the same effort as last time in pulling together to achieve an unknown goal!

I have to say i totally agree with Fishslice on this one! A 500 meter race is exactly that ..500 meters. a 25 mile marathon is 25 miles. 100% to BB is what? whenever they feel like saying yes you have done it or nope you are short of our invisible deadline so no prizes for you.

If i knew what the target was I would probably be a bit more excited/ invested in the event

Icegirl
28.06.13, 08:52
Perhaps if more people actively participated, Slicey, instead of "taking a stand" on the forums because of the lack of personal motivation and self-gratification, we would be a little further ahead than we are right now.

Although I agree with your points about the race distance being unknown and therefore unfair, the lack of support for the community shown by a level 50 player is only going to encourage others to write-off the event and therefore we will suffer further. But perhaps it's your intention that we don't compete. Hmmm?

I remember you completing Four Winds even though it took a lot of resources for you to do, and the rewards were an utter waste of time for someone of your standing. And yet you're passing up the chance to get a few cool things that will possibly never be available again, and will mark you out as a long-standing player to new players. I'm not sure I understand what kind of motivation you need to be offered to get behind a community event.

I'm not saying that BB haven't monumentally FUBARed an event yet again, but we the community have to make the best of a bad job, or what's the point in getting up and logging on every day?

Gromobran
28.06.13, 08:58
I don't know what you are talking about the goal is clear 100%. :( <-- Bad joke.

I wish BB could put down real numbers. But i guess they wont since they think we could figure out how many are playing this game based on results.
And that might be a SECRET for some reason.

At the end BB says that they have learned from previous events and is still doing same mistakes.
I do not know what do they think of our intelligence level?

Junik
28.06.13, 09:43
Go Newfoundlanders go... Resistance is futile. You'll participate anyways. (insert any kind of smiley here)

Thejollyone
28.06.13, 09:51
and still no clarity on the questions asked in here - is there a chance we will get a response before the 4 days is up? :(

lulu10093
28.06.13, 10:38
im still using all my resources i can and trading to get more to make balloons. done all the quests in chain so far an know im doing more than some to try get the server rewards its just a shame it feels that again like with the eow event its the same people doing most the work for the server all we need is more people to make balloons/donate them and hope for the best
and i agree we do need clarity on what it takes to qualify % wise
but more importantly get making and donating them balloons "your server needs you" :)

DocAckersonCO1
28.06.13, 13:17
its been a day since the event started. Top server has 12 %. Three more days and the top server would have 50 %. Not much hope of any server getting 100 %.
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just no sense in this event.
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I know many want to promote server unity, but there is no achievable goal. Probably never was for my server. We are at 5%.
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I try and help players with information on my server, and try and make it truthful. Telling people to spend time and resources to get balloons for a goal that will not be reached, spending time and effort for a goal that probably cannot be reached, seems like lying to me. So I suggest people be very careful in trying to get to 100%.
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Nice game, impossible event.

Icegirl
28.06.13, 14:31
It looks as if BB have fixed some kind of bug or adjusted their expectations as every server is now doing a lot better. Some are already at 100%.

Thejollyone
28.06.13, 14:32
yep - the older ones lol

BobLurker
28.06.13, 15:22
It looks as if BB have fixed some kind of bug or adjusted their expectations as every server is now doing a lot better. Some are already at 100%.

Yup, the inevitable happened, they had set the bar too high even for the original German and Polish servers. They had to revise it or no one would have qualified for phase two.

fishslice
28.06.13, 16:44
Good to see BB have rethought their expectations. Still no indication of the shape and size of the race but at least being able to see the UK1 and UK2 servers are at nearly 50% and we are less than 50% of the way through the duration gives a clear understanding of expectations.

It still all feels like a glorified sink to take excessive resources out of the game for minimal effort and minimal reward with no clear explanation of how the weighting or rules will be applied. That being said I have so far done the quests asked of me and donated the balloons and I will continue to support in this limited way but I wont be asking my Provisions House to get busy converting resources to balloons at present. Maybe this will change in the next phase (should we get that far) and transform my L5 Provisions House into a balloon factory and keep it constantly buffed with chocolate rabbits - lets watch this space...


Perhaps if more people actively participated, Slicey, instead of "taking a stand" on the forums because of the lack of personal motivation and self-gratification, we would be a little further ahead than we are right now.
^^ Icey - If we had all bent over and did BlueBytes bidding at the drop of a proverbial gem opportunity then maybe we would still be at 4% with the same opportunity to succeed as was the case early today before the change in weightings.
Anyway, sneaking off to one of my many Witch Towers for some personal motivation and self-gratification :cool:

Icegirl
28.06.13, 17:07
^^ Icey - If we had all bent over and did BlueBytes bidding at the drop of a proverbial gem opportunity then maybe we would still be at 4% with the same opportunity to succeed as was the case early today before the change in weightings.
Anyway, sneaking off to one of my many Witch Towers for some personal motivation and self-gratification :cool:
Slicey, I see you're happy to take full credit for the revision of the balloon numbers needed to get to 100%. Thank God we have you, the People's Hero, standing on your moral high horse {sic}, cape blowing in the wind, looking out for us all. We gravel {sic} at your feet.

I think BB could clearly see the way the Four Winds were blowing and knew they had 'misjudged' the numbers needed to reach their (admittedly invisible) targets.

I am glad to hear, however, that you are participating, albeit in your own humble, modest way. But I have to mention; this is a social game and you are a guild leader and a high level, high status player, and as such should be setting an example to the rest of us. If we all followed your example perhaps we would still be on 4%, despite the bar being lowered. I appreciate that you were disillusioned with EOTW, as were the majority of us, but this is a whole new event. Perhaps the prizes are not auspicious enough for you, and for that I hope that we, the playerbase, can join together with BB in apologising profusely for supplying gifts that do not meet with your approval, but other people might want - and be grateful - for those prizes. And if you were to turn your precious PH into a 24/7, chocolate bunny fed balloon factory and donate some of your many thousands of resources to the cause, you could be putting a smile on the face of other, less advantaged players. See how satisfying mutual gratification can be?

Finally, I am unsurprised to hear of your self-gratification. It's blatantly obvious you're not being gratified elsewhere.

Sinister-King
28.06.13, 17:13
Hello!

Can we keep it friendly here please!

Sinister-King

DocAckersonCO1
28.06.13, 17:24
perhaps it's similar to what Winston Churchill said about USA (paraphrased), they will do the right thing when all the other alternatives do not work.

fishslice
28.06.13, 17:26
Of course I don't take full credit but I would like to think BB have actually listened to feedback from all of us in this thread and others and gone 'hey guys, we got it wrong again, do we just ignore the problem like normal or should we do something to stop this being a monumental failure' and obviously the bean counters at BB Headquarters are foaming at the mouth at the thought of the lost revenue when people realise a 20% gem bonus and purchasing of chocolate rabbits was in vain and wont be buying any more throughout July as BB want.

Re participating, I'm still not really getting involved. I see doing the quests as something new that I will support but I remain reserved in my judgement till a later date. Obviously that means my contribution during phase 1 is minimal but on the plus side I wont have wasted a shed load of resources on a fictional target. As per my recent post, maybe the balloon factory will become operational in phase 2 - I knew I was saving those chocolate rabbits for something.

Icegirl
28.06.13, 17:32
Hello!

Can we keep it friendly here please!

Sinister-King
Try reading it with your tongue in your cheek. ;)

Icegirl
28.06.13, 17:47
It's funny to see you criticise BB so openly, Slicey. I thought your new stance as the People's Hero had you putting your full support behind our esteemed programmers?

fishslice
28.06.13, 17:49
I can't stand to watch the video diaries, I stopped watching the muppet show at age 12.

Gerontius
28.06.13, 17:50
Of course I don't take full credit but I would like to think BB have actually listened to feedback from all of us

Where have you seen evidence of BB listening to feedback in what they've done?

They responded to the fact that no server got past a few % after a day of playing the event. ie, they corrected an obvious misjudgment on their part.

They clarified their original diary about the event, which should never have gone out in its original form in the first place, but didn't actually give any new information.

None of the criticism and feedback has been responded to at all.

fishslice
28.06.13, 17:55
Of course it has.... There's a whole new Q&A thread from our Community Manager that clarifies a lot of the negative criticism and indirect questions.

I still think the whole event is a farce (hence why I haven't actively participated except the quests) but I do think BB has at least attempted to provide a better level of clarification and detail.

DocAckersonCO1
28.06.13, 17:57
Maybe this was all planned Geron, maybe they adjusted just because of game numbers, maybe they read and even listened. We will have to wait for their book to be published.

Gerontius
28.06.13, 18:13
Well, if they made these updates ONLY because of feedback from the player base, they are a bunch of incompetent fools.

Note, this is NOT an insult: I'm not actually saying they're incompetent fools. I'm saying that they made mistakes (but not at the level of foolish incompetence) and the results of those mistakes were so obvious that they simply acted to fix them. No feedback from us was necessary for that.

But, are you suggesting they're incompetent fools who needed feedback to recognise that reaching 1% of a target after 25% of the available time frame was something that needed fixing?

:)

Gerontius
28.06.13, 18:16
Of course it has.... There's a whole new Q&A thread from our Community Manager that clarifies a lot of the negative criticism and indirect questions.

If you read the original diary carefully enough, essentially all of the clarifications in the FAQ can already be gleaned from it. They've simply corrected obvious mistakes, and have not responded to any of requests for additional information.


As an example, they've done NOTHING to try to resolve the problem (which was also blatantly clear from EotW) that 10% of the playerbase doesn't know (or usually care) what server they're on.

DocAckersonCO1
28.06.13, 18:22
some people put on shoes, tie them up, take a walk.
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they become untied.... sometimes they get retied because they are noticed by the wearer, sometimes someone tells them "your shoe is untied". I will wait for the paperback.

fishslice
28.06.13, 18:28
but, are you suggesting they're incompetent fools who needed feedback to recognise that reaching 1% of a target after 25% of the available time frame was something that needed fixing?

yes

Gytha_Ogg
28.06.13, 18:32
People complained because EOTW was too hard and too time consuming, now people are complaining because this event is a resource sink, oh and the adventure is exp only in rewards which is no good for these at level 50.

IMO seeing which server can make the most balloons from resources is a great way to show economic output, and those at level 50 can surely donate larger amounts seeing as apparently a fair few of you have no building space on your island.

It seems to me t hat for some people BB will never be able to win, kudos to them for still trying to do something different even in the face of such negativity.

Oh and those who have decided to exercise their right not to participate I assume you haven't redeemed any of the many codes that are floating around? Yeah thought so.

DocAckersonCO1
28.06.13, 18:44
Gytha, some servers could do eotw, get 100%. None could do this one, get 100%, until they changed it today.. So until they changed event, it was just a black hole for donating resources.

Sto_Helit
28.06.13, 23:01
People complained because EOTW was too hard and too time consuming, now people are complaining because this event is a resource sink, oh and the adventure is exp only in rewards which is no good for these at level 50.

IMO seeing which server can make the most balloons from resources is a great way to show economic output, and those at level 50 can surely donate larger amounts seeing as apparently a fair few of you have no building space on your island.

It seems to me t hat for some people BB will never be able to win, kudos to them for still trying to do something different even in the face of such negativity.

Oh and those who have decided to exercise their right not to participate I assume you haven't redeemed any of the many codes that are floating around? Yeah thought so.

Everyone complains....

Kudos to BB for a very different sort of event. We are doing a warm up at the moment, where they can work out how many people can run and how far. The rest of the three weeks will be more serious and hopefully good fun.

If people won't participate, and don't think we will win, then we won't. If people try, participate and make it work, we can win. Tbh, I think it might be worth having an event that is optional to participate in so that all the people that want to just sit and make wells, fields, mines and stockpile gold coins can ignore it and leave the rest of us to have fun with other motivated people who do want to put in the effort. We end up carrying the people that are 'above such things' and it's a bit galling if they get rewards for not helping.

DocAckersonCO1
29.06.13, 03:11
BB is quite competent and very trustworthy about many game things. These special event things are not one of them though.
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That's not a complaint, just an observation. And this event was noticeably flawed from the start. Fishslice saw that, as did others. Just how it is/was.

Hiroike
29.06.13, 05:41
We gotta keep complaining to keep BB on their toes. Remember they didn't do much in year, which lead many lvl50 players to leave the game.

fishslice
29.06.13, 10:03
Update.
This no longer seems like an impossible event like previous ones so I will be supporting phase 2 of the event and I am currently stockpiling resources to ensure he balloon factory is heavily utilised.