[Guide] Old Ruins (event)

[Metsjuku]

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Guide for Old Ruins. No Block, 200 Gen and 250 Gen version (without cannons). :D


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Croaker camp updated! TNX to SmogDude!
C4 camp update! TNX to Uruloki!
Skiping C6 updated with extra image! TNX to Tuustakas!

C1 - 60 Scavenger 60 Stone thrower
C2 - 60 Scavenger 70 Guard dog
C3 - 60 Scavenger 50 Ranger
C4 - 60 Ranger 1 One-Eyed Bert
C5 - 100 Wolf 1 Croaker
C6 - 80 Shadowsneaker 80 Fanatic
C7 - 80 Cultists 1 Swamp Witch
C8 - 1 Swamp Witch 80 Firedancers
C9 - 1 Night Spawn

MAX needed troops:
200 Gen - 371R, 1B, 175C, 193LB, 30M, 170S [max losses: 371R, 1B, 150C, 30M, 33S]
250 Gen - 443R, 1B, 238C, 193XB, 20S, 200E [max losses: 443R, 1B, 14S]

You can lower your losses with following the second image!

[Gerontius]

You can do a couple of 1R blocks on camp 2 to get to camps 3 and 4. The attacking general should be 3 flags behind the blocking general.

[Sir_Sparkalot]

Superb guide - thanks mate

[LTBIH]

thx

[sdofmsdf]

C5 should be attacked with 5r 1s 244xb -> 5r loss

[Jackaroo]

sdofmsdf -wouldnt the wolfes attack the xb's first?

[Metsjuku]

yes it would

[Scippy]

Thank you for the guide.

[Nioh]

yes it would

Are you sure?

From the character library:

Crossbowman:
Cautious: Unit will only be attacked if all melee troops of this army are defeated.

Recruits are melee troops right?

I Think I'll give it a try :)

[Nioh]

...and it worked, kinda... :D

5R 1S 244XB should do it.

I only had 200 XB and it wasn't quite enough so my losses were 5R 1XB

[The_Sarmatian]

C6: skipped by placing generals down-right from it. Saving 100r.
C8: 53R 22S 1E 150C 24A (V) (53r22s)
C7: blocked with 85e (8-11 normal rounds). Saving 100r.
C9: 118r132e (118r) (6 fast rounds)

[SusieCat]

Just worth pointing out, incase people don't know, that you don't have to knock all the walls down. Just 1 in each row. This clears a path to Croaker. Killing Croaker kills the rest of the walls. Surprised me how many people I've told about this who didn't know.

[SmogDude]

Wolves do not have "attack weakest target".

Thus, you'd do better with these setups:

Normal and BHG:

60 Rangers, 1 One-Eyed Bert:
11R 1S 86C 102LB (0 - 2R - 11R)
86C 81XB (0)

100 Wolves, 1 Croaker:
5R 1S 1B 193LB (5R 1B)
5R 1S 1B 193XB (5R 1B)

80 Shadowsneakers, 80 Fanatics:
85R 115S (69R - 78R - 85R)

1 Witch of the Swamp, 80 Firedancers:
BLOCK: 102E 98C (100-200 seconds of fighting)
[1: 150R 50C 2: 101R 1S 54C 44LB (194R 50C - 235R 50C - 251R 50C)]
[1: 150R 50C 2: 76R 1S 51C 72XB (184R 50C - 210R 50C - 226R 50C)]

80 Cultists, 1 Witch of the Swamp:
BLOCK: 93S (220-280 seconds of fighting, 0.02% chance of 200 seconds)
Kill: 83R 1S 116LB (68R - 80R - 83R)
Kill: 68R 1S 131XB (57R - 66R - 68R)

1 Night Spawn:
200S (47S - 51S - 53S) (80 seconds of fighting with fast general)
53S 147E (47S - 51S - 53S) (80 seconds of fighting with fast general)
40M 160S (40M 20S - 40M 24S - 40M 26S) (80 seconds of fighting with fast general)
60M 13S 127E (60M 7S - 60M 11S - 60M 13S) (80 seconds of fighting with fast general)
39R 161K (35R - 38R - 39R) (60 seconds of fighting with normal general, 30 with fast general)

If you have a normal general and Cannoneers, consider the single block. If you have a fast general and Cannoneers, consider the two-way block. If you have a fast general, but no Cannoneers, consider the single block.

Please note: These setups are far from optimized. I recommend further simulating to see if you can get a setup better than these.

[Tuustakas]

Wolves do not have "attack weakest target".



But Croaker has!

[SmogDude]

But Croaker has!

Yes it does. But it does not have "splash damage", so it can only kill 1B at a time.

Thus, you have 5R 1S 1B 193LB/XB (5R 1B).

[Vopicus]

Nice SmogDude.

I'll steal them and add to my guide.

[Tuustakas]

Yes it does. But it does not have "splash damage", so it can only kill 1B at a time.

Thus, you have 5R 1S 1B 193LB/XB (5R 1B).

Good one!

[Metsjuku]

Yes it does. But it does not have "splash damage", so it can only kill 1B at a time.

Thus, you have 5R 1S 1B 193LB/XB (5R 1B).

Updated! TNX!

[Uruloki]

C4 If you attack with 20S 80CAV 100LB the losses are ZERO
Thanks for the guide

[sdofmsdf]

sdofmsdf -wouldnt the wolfes attack the xb's first?

no :)

[sdofmsdf]

Updated! TNX!

yeah.. tnx for mentioning me -_-

[Ippy]

C5 should be attacked with 5r 1s 244xb -> 5r loss

Here's another way to do it - 8r 192m -> 8r loss

[JuliusBoudicca]

The guide was perfect for me ... except ... you must clear C5 before you can reposition to avoid C6 :)

[SwampHen]

C6: skipped by placing generals down-right from it. Saving 100r.
C8: 53R 22S 1E 150C 24A (V) (53r22s)
C7: blocked with 85e (8-11 normal rounds). Saving 100r.
C9: 118r132e (118r) (6 fast rounds)

Thanks The_Sarmatian. I dearly love blocks and optimised attacks. :D

[PopyJopy]

I need a guide without xbows elites and cannons, I do have a vet
can someone help? Or do I have to sim everything?

[Tage]

I need a guide without xbows elites and cannons, I do have a vet
can someone help? Or do I have to sim everything?

I hope to get my guide done tomorrow (Killste's thread)...
For the time being, if you want to kill every camp today (without any blocks), here you go:

Camp 1) 60 Scavengers, 60 Stone Throwers
VETERAN general: [13R 1S 236C (8R - 11R - 13R)]

Camp 2) 60 Scavengers, 70 Guard Dogs
ANY general: [43R 134S (37R - 41R - 43R 1S)]

Camp 3) 60 Scavengers, 50 Rangers
VETERAN general: [12R 1S 237C (7R - 10R - 12R)]

Camp 4) 60 Rangers, 1 One-Eyed Bert
VETERAN general: [1S 90C 120LB (-)]

Camp 5) 100 Wolves, 1 Croaker
ANY general: [5R 1S 1B 150LB (5R 1B)]

Camp 6) 80 Shadowsneakers, 80 Fanatics (skipped)
ANY general: [84R 84S (69R - 78R - 84R)]

Camp 8) 1 Witch of the Swamp, 80 Firedancers
VETERAN general: [62R 32S 138C 18LB (62R 12S - 62R 22S - 62R 31S)]

Camp 7) 80 Cultists, 1 Witch of the Swamp
VETERAN general: [68R 1S 181LB (57R - 66R - 68R)]

Camp 9) 1 Night Spawn
VETERAN general: [118R 132S (107R - 116R - 118R)]

[oiLvAcciNe]

Heres my guide
(the blocks are kind of difficult to achieve ... heider way here it goes)

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bw_7mFljzvMnMUxqX01CRXVueE0/edit?usp=sharing


https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bw_7mFljzvMnMUxqX01CRXVueE0/edit?usp=sharing

[Toruk_Makto]

nice guide

can you just add version with block on c7 when attacking c9, with BHG or regular G?