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matie2506
18.09.13, 15:35
Hey all,

i know PvP is coming and its hard, etc...
But When does there come a exact Date of Release ???
cause its taking Way too long now BB_ Give us a Date of release

Thx a lot
regards
matie2506 :)

peck_ed
18.09.13, 15:37
There is currently no set date for this

matie2506
18.09.13, 15:38
i know but its in DEV diarys for a long long time and still no date
so ... i want BB_ to thing about an REAL date ;)

AmySafeunderdark
18.09.13, 19:44
Whatever is is the dev diaries is in development.. lol
if I had to give everything I have in development a final date.. I would not be playing TSO lol

Give it time, it's in the DEV so they are working on it.. it will come in time, just be patient :)

Nogbad
19.09.13, 18:33
Coming soon ©

RonPope
19.09.13, 21:13
No its Coming Soon "tm".


PvP arena is already in testing on the Chinese servers. As I had posted about it already before. The Chinese Settlers online site has it.
http://forum.thesettlersonline.net/threads/18882-PVP-has-arrived.-BUT-we-re-still-last-to-get-it!


Before PvP is going to happen, they'll need to do Generals science tree. Then they need to do Island Economy science tree.
By that time, they'll be doing some "Christmas event". Then some server wide event like balloons. And maybe if people haven't already quit playing by then. They'll publish some PvP Diary and tell you it won't be available for another year. (cynical yes. reality and truth. most likely the case.)

Just giving you an overview of the timeline for the next year. :-)

Sinister-King
19.09.13, 21:56
No its Coming Soon "tm".


PvP arena is already in testing on the Chinese servers. As I had posted about it already before. The Chinese Settlers online site has it.
http://forum.thesettlersonline.net/threads/18882-PVP-has-arrived.-BUT-we-re-still-last-to-get-it!


Before PvP is going to happen, they'll need to do Generals science tree. Then they need to do Island Economy science tree.
By that time, they'll be doing some "Christmas event". Then some server wide event like balloons. And maybe if people haven't already quit playing by then. They'll publish some PvP Diary and tell you it won't be available for another year. (cynical yes. reality and truth. most likely the case.)

Just giving you an overview of the timeline for the next year. :-)

Hello RonPope,

Here (http://forum.thesettlersonline.com/threads/25506-Announcement-About-Chinese-TSO) is the official response in regards to PvP on the Chinese servers :).

Sinister-King

Viper9
20.09.13, 07:24
RonPope is absolutely right about the timeline. There will be many things deployed before pvp. But ! in a dev diary it was said that pvp will start in 2013. So we should have it december the latest. I wanted to give a link to that dev diary, but I can not find it, a conspiracy maybe?
Update: No BB_Alpaca, I tried to find the one from the end of 2012 I think. The name of the diary was: A further look into 2013

BB_Alpaca
20.09.13, 08:12
RonPope is absolutely right about the timeline. There will be many things deployed before pvp. But ! in a dev diary it was said that pvp will start in 2013. So we should have it december the latest. I wanted to give a link to that dev diary, but I can not find it, a conspiracy maybe?

Hi Viper9!

Do you mean this Dev Diary (http://forum.thesettlersonline.com/threads/23895)?

Best,
BB_Alpaca

BB_Alpaca
20.09.13, 09:19
RonPope is absolutely right about the timeline. There will be many things deployed before pvp. But ! in a dev diary it was said that pvp will start in 2013. So we should have it december the latest. I wanted to give a link to that dev diary, but I can not find it, a conspiracy maybe?
Update: No BB_Alpaca, I tried to find the one from the end of 2012 I think. The name of the diary was: A further look into 2013

Then maybe this one (http://forum.thesettlersonline.com/threads/20825), I think?

It is also stated in the Dev Diary that 'Please keep in mind that the final version all things mentioned above can be different and that the dates are estimations and may differ.'

Best,
BB_Alpaca

lulu10093
20.09.13, 09:44
RonPope is absolutely right about the timeline. There will be many things deployed before pvp. But ! in a dev diary it was said that pvp will start in 2013. So we should have it december the latest. I wanted to give a link to that dev diary, but I can not find it, a conspiracy maybe?
Update: No BB_Alpaca, I tried to find the one from the end of 2012 I think. The name of the diary was: A further look into 2013

Im sure when i started playing it was rumored to be october 2012 lol but whenever it comes its not for everyone so those still waiting just still have to wait for when it eventually comes into the game

Viper9
20.09.13, 09:52
Right on BB_Alpaca :) You are right, I have forgotten the details and those are indeed estimations. No conspiracy then, sorry :)

Promethos
20.09.13, 14:38
With the introduction of the premium-accounts it has become only harder to make a fair PvP-system, the differences between players has only increased. Whatever you think about that, it doesn't make PvP easier. It also doesn't help that the developers have had huge troubles with basic math in the past, and with balancing the game.

but fortunately PvP has been announced for 2012, postponed to the 3rd quarter of 2012, and then moved to 2013. But thats fine with me, I have 0 confidence they can do it properly. So you wont hear me compaining about the rediculous company-policy to never say anything, or the stupid "you'll be the first to find out when it's there"-concept. (hello BB, this is 2013, that concept is outdated!). In this case every day without PvP is a happy day, no need to disturb the weebles with more bugs.

RonPope
20.09.13, 18:47
Then maybe this one (http://forum.thesettlersonline.com/threads/20825), I think?

It is also stated in the Dev Diary that 'Please keep in mind that the final version all things mentioned above can be different and that the dates are estimations and may differ.'

Best,
BB_Alpaca

Wow. You are really on the Ball today BB_Alpaca. You're probably one of the most active CM I've seen who seems to be communicating with us with information.

The 2013 news is really interesting. That "news interface" is really nice. How did I miss that Dev Diary. Then again I took a break and didn't do the Halloween event last year and only did the Christmas event really late.


Econcomic Adventures! When are we getting these things? It's 2013 and only 3 months left!!


Some very interesting screen shots!

RonPope
20.09.13, 18:48
I'm sure they'll make a new dev diary saying "Outlook for 2014" LOL.

Currently, I don't see any of the outlook 2013 yet.


Edit: I take that back. the only thing I see they did out of that list is the science system. Which is kind of not going so well right now. With the cost of books being too much. I think the cost of Tomes consuming too many manuscripts is really the big bottle neck. I think if they changed Tomes to consistently use only 1 manuscript that is going to be fair and balanced. It's bad enough that the cost of the resources for tomes increases. and cost of manuscript resources increases. Codecs seems to be okay for now.

Dorotheus
20.09.13, 18:55
I thought Microsoft had stopped development of Outlook. :)

Tripi
20.09.13, 23:17
For PvP the attack-defense mechanism needs diversity before implementation which basically means the military skill tree must come first (I'm also guessing that star coin attack buffs might be a pseudo way of testing some ideas before they go much further with the actual military skills).

By that I mean that variety needs to be added to the way attacks are planned and therefore the way attacks are defended against:
With the current system the simulators would quickly work out the best defenders (let's say 200 elites for example) and the best attackers (let's say 80 elite 190 cannons)... defender loses 200 elites, attacker wins and onto the next camp which, shock horror, is exactly the same as the simulators have already dictated the best camp setups.
Now if you throw in military skills (higher defense, shifted initiative (first strike rather than normal etc), higher attack, larger troops, faster movement, spies/sabotage, whatever) you manage to open an entire new tactical edge to that equation... yes the sims might suggest shifted initiative/higher def cannons vs most attacks (only achievable with defense based skill set) and yet an attack based skill set (larger troops, higher attack) might nuke that yet leave the attacker vulnerable if they came to defending the won island.
Without that diversity, PvP simply could not work.

So, basically we are looking at xmas or beyond for home-island skill trees and then feb/march for military before we even get a sniff at PvP - prior to that we might get to play with a few star-coin attack buffs to use against bandits on our adventures...

Mostly conjecture, don't blame me if I'm right :)

Sto_Helit
21.09.13, 07:30
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It is also stated in the Dev Diary that 'Please keep in mind that the final version all things mentioned above can be different and that the dates are estimations and may differ.'

Best,
BB_Alpaca[/COLOR]

I think this comment is important to bear in mind. Would you prefer a badly-designed and implemented pvp in 2013, or a well-designed and implemented pvp in 2014? The date wasn't cast in stone, it was an estimate based on the information and work-flow that BB probably had at the time. If we are waiting for pvp anyway, I'd prefer to wait a tiny bit longer for something that works well. Also, we have had a lot of new features added to the game in recent months and there is only so much that the developers can produce at one time.

Kingu
21.09.13, 15:14
Just for fun i looked at a bit older posts and i found what i thought i had read at one point.....

From Dev Diary July/august 2012...

Estimated for the end of 2012 / 1st quarter of 2013
Weekly guild quests
Personal guild quests
New mail window
Filters for the star menu – that will put things in order, finally you can filter away all that stuff away you don’t care about...
PVP



Still no mentioning of any date for pvp, but in end 2012 / first quarter 2013 is kinda passed i think..

RonPope
24.09.13, 02:18
I think this comment is important to bear in mind. Would you prefer a badly-designed and implemented pvp in 2013, or a well-designed and implemented pvp in 2014? The date wasn't cast in stone, it was an estimate based on the information and work-flow that BB probably had at the time. If we are waiting for pvp anyway, I'd prefer to wait a tiny bit longer for something that works well. Also, we have had a lot of new features added to the game in recent months and there is only so much that the developers can produce at one time.

LOL. Based on everything they've done so far and put up on the test server. I have to say we need to wait until 2015. :-)
They can't seem to get anything right when they post it on test server. I have to say at least some things they listen to the feedback and make changes like the FTA and collectibles. But other times they totally ignore the feedback and post it anyways. Maybe rushed out?