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Nogbad
22.09.13, 21:48
Something odd seems to have happened, our language setting seem to have got mixed.
If you look to the left of your posts, it no longer says "World: server name", but instead "Monde".

English please, after all, it is the rule! :)

Hairy
23.09.13, 01:24
I think it happened about 2 weeks ago. ~ I thought it was just me...

BB_Alpaca
23.09.13, 07:19
Something odd seems to have happened, our language setting seem to have got mixed.
If you look to the left of your posts, it no longer says "World: server name", but instead "Monde".

English please, after all, it is the rule! :)

I have absolutely no clue how that happened, but I've fiddled with the code and put it back to how it should be. Thank you for pointing it out! :)

Best,
BB_Alpaca

AmySafeunderdark
23.09.13, 14:45
I have absolutely no clue how that happened, but I've fiddled with the code and put it back to how it should be. Thank you for pointing it out! :)

Best,
BB_Alpaca

LOL, that was something I pondered about to :)

Thought it was me :D

Good to see it's solved now :)

Nogbad
23.09.13, 21:12
Yes, back to normal.
Thank you very much Alpaca, appreciated.

Durin_d
24.09.13, 07:41
Hi,

Not 100% on topic but there is also something strange about the time zone setting. I've changed it several times to (GMT +2) but it sometimes resets to (GMT +1) Brussels, Copenhagen, etc.

Also EET/EEST time zone is missing cities (i.e. Helsinki) that would have the correct DST settings for me.

Fexno
24.09.13, 07:53
Hi Durin_d, it seems that the Daylight Saving Detection overrides your chosen timezone setting, so you'll have to put it off to keep using GMT+2
http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/7703/jzoy.png

Not sure if EET/EEST can be added to the list though, but I'll try to find out

Durin_d
24.09.13, 08:14
I've noticed that option and have been using it.
I've forced the DST on now and but I have to manually change it to off 27.10. when the DST ends here.

But still the actual time zone changes from (GMT +2) to (GMT +1) sometimes which makes all the time stamps -1h off. I don't actually know if it has something to do with http-sessions or cookies since I haven't managed reproduce this intentionally.

BB_Alpaca
24.09.13, 08:23
Hi,

Not 100% on topic but there is also something strange about the time zone setting. I've changed it several times to (GMT +2) but it sometimes resets to (GMT +1) Brussels, Copenhagen, etc.

Also EET/EEST time zone is missing cities (i.e. Helsinki) that would have the correct DST settings for me.

I looked into adding EET/EEST into the forum's timezone database, but apparently it's not a straightforward process on vBulletin and would require some reprogramming of the forum's code. I can give it a go sometime, but I can't guarantee that I can do it. :(

Best,
BB_Alpaca

Durin_d
24.09.13, 18:02
The DST is the smaller problem. I can live with the manual DST change but even if I select the EET time zone (GMT+2) that is available in the vBulletin it doesn't stick. I've changed the time zone 3 times today from GMT+1 to GMT+2 but it automatically changes back for some reason.

AmySafeunderdark
24.09.13, 21:09
I looked into adding EET/EEST into the forum's timezone database, but apparently it's not a straightforward process on vBulletin and would require some reprogramming of the forum's code. I can give it a go sometime, but I can't guarantee that I can do it. :(

Best,
BB_Alpaca

Please be careful with that BB_Alpaca,
It requires some text editing and may need some database adjustments.
It would not be the first time a generous Admin corrupting the whole forum, just because of a member request :o
Not because I don't think you can't do it, but because I needed to help a friend who did just that ;)
It's very tricky.

But the option to select GMT+1 and set the 'automatically detect DST setting' should do the trick.
Best is to see why his setting are reset to GMT+1, maybe his timezone is GMT+1 with DST (that would make it GMT+2)

just my 2 cents :D

Durin_d
25.09.13, 07:59
My time zone is EET == GMT+2 (Finland) and we still use DST (EEST) so the GMT+2 (GMT+3 with DST) is correct for me.

I hope that vBulletin isn't that stupid that it takes the location/language from my browser and makes the adjustment according to that.

ifconfig.me info:
User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/29.0.1547.76 Safari/537.36
Language: en-GB,en;q=0.8,fi;q=0.6

BB_Alpaca
25.09.13, 08:58
Please be careful with that BB_Alpaca,
It requires some text editing and may need some database adjustments.
It would not be the first time a generous Admin corrupting the whole forum, just because of a member request :o
Not because I don't think you can do it, but because I needed to help a friend who did just that ;)
It's very tricky.

But the option to select GMT+1 and set the 'automatically detect DST setting' should do the trick.
Best is to see why his setting are reset to GMT+1, maybe his timezone is GMT+1 with DST (that would make it GMT+2)

just my 2 cents :D

I am always careful-- I have programming experience in much more difficult languages than HTML. ;) However, vBulletin is the unknown as it is not the most responsively designed forum system to exist. I will check it out, but I can't promise anything!

EDIT: Durin_d, I've manually set your timezone-- check if it's working now?

Best,
BB_Alpaca

Durin_d
25.09.13, 10:30
I checked my time zone and it was GMT+2, logged out, visited the forum and tried to see couple of player profiles, logged in and time zone was reset to GMT+1.

I tested this same on tsotesting.com and this happens there also.

BB_Alpaca
25.09.13, 11:14
Hm, that is really odd... I will investigate it further and update when I've got something.

Best,
BB_Alpaca

AmySafeunderdark
25.09.13, 11:26
I am always careful-- I have programming experience in much more difficult languages than HTML. ;) However, vBulletin is the unknown as it is not the most responsively designed forum system to exist. I will check it out, but I can't promise anything!

Best,
BB_Alpaca

Just read back, and saw it

I don't think you can do it
This is or "because I think you can do it" or "because I don't think you can't do it" :o (shame...)
Maybe you didn't notice, or read it the way it was intended -lol-

Anyway, I have all the trust in the world in you, I just know vBulletin can be very tricky :)
just needed to say that, just in case it is explained wrong. Not my intention.

About the timezone problems, I know there can some strange things happen with vBulletin.
I'll try and see if I can duplicate the timezone error.
It is possible a system setting is overruling user-settings, if server-setting is GMT+1
or the client detects the client-setting wrong, if a JavaScript is running to automatically adjust time setting.

Something to look into :)

Be safe

Edit:
set GMT+3 logout
Log in: time is now GMT+3 (automatically detect DST setting) making it GMT+4

Will try it the other way around now..
stays the same, Can't reproduce the problem....
Was thinking it did, but goofed up myself, so redid it :)

BTW: log in to forum does not work, you need to log in at tso homepage, it gives an error.
Weird.. :(

BB_Alpaca
25.09.13, 11:41
BTW: log in to forum does now work, you need to log in at homepage, forum log in does not work
this is weird.. :(

IIRC, this has always been the case. You must log in at the front page and that is by design.

Best,
BB_Alpaca

Durin_d
25.09.13, 11:46
So I'm not the only one who has this problem.

I've tried to repeat this by logging out but without luck. There might be some timeout time when this happens.

I found this on vBulletin forum:
http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/forum/vbulletin-4/vbulletin-4-questions-problems-and-troubleshooting/408919-users-can-t-change-timezone-in-usercp

Testing update:
I was logged out for 1h from tsotesting.com and after that my timezone changed.

AmySafeunderdark
25.09.13, 12:31
IIRC, this has always been the case. You must log in at the front page and that is by design.

Best,
BB_Alpaca

OK, another thing that should be fixed:
The forum login-page should redirect to front page, and not show the forum login page :)

BB_Alpaca
25.09.13, 12:37
OK, another thing that should be fixed:
The forum login-page should redirect to front page, and not show the forum login page :)

If it is possible, I will add it to my list and do it when time presents itself. ;)

Best,
BB_Alpaca