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Good evening all
I now have some 500 presents and face a dilemma: should I buy a Recycling Manufactory or should I wait to buy a Rarity Provision HOuse? Do you think the later is worth it? What do you think?
If you make lots of fish and meat deposits and find your normal prov house is always stacked with long queues then yes I would say worth it. You have plenty of time to get more presents so you can probably get both.
Problem is: I believe I won't be able to get both recycling Manufactory and Rarity Provision House. If it is for the fish and meat deposits, I think I will pass. So, the buff and the map pieces (magical ink) are worth it?
On my server the price of map frags has now crashed due to this prov house they cost around 2gc each or less so I not going to bother making them. The x3 buff may be useful but not made that yet either. No doubt BB will give presents away on Christmas day and probably in the event calender as well as adventures so you should be able to get both. Maybe they will add more stuff to the prov house at a later stage I would say its worth getting that over the recycle plant.
new prov house imo is well worth it u get a discount on the meat and fish refill plus max batch of 25 is 12500 deposit compared to the 2500 dep of the old provision house.. also the map fragments yes the dropped in price but you can still profit by making the frags and either selling the adv they can make or by doing them and selling the ls ..and then finally the x3 buffs there nice really nice as long as you use them on high value items i do my entire gold chain alot cheaper then buying the x3 buffs that where around before.. and dont forget you get the 50% if someone else casts on you
wait and buy provision house
3 slow explorer + quest + calendar + collections = 1700 + present. enought for provison house and 2 recycling
you will need mf, maybe not now but later in game will be very usful for you. new buff also is good.
Brankovics
17.12.13, 00:46
As mentioned above, Rarity Provision House worth, if you use/sell lot of refillers and buffs, so you can produce parallel in two buildings (multithreading, instead of time sharing, hehe). But momently on Sandycove TO the new refillers do not have anyone excited...
- RPH's meat and fish deposit refiller can be 5 time bigger as the similar PH's refillers (12,500 / 2,500), so less clicks.
- RPH's refillers are 20% cheaper (500 RPH meat = 80 water + 120 fish / 500 PH meat = 100 water + 150 fish) (500 RPH fish = 40 bread / 500 PH fish = 50 bread)
- Them producing speed equal to a 2 level PH's speed.
- RPH is not upgradeable, so it has fix producing times.
- Other buffs I didn't try out, but imo "Employee of the month badge" is a little bit expensive: on average TO rates basis its resources cost ~30 GC. On other hand everyone has a lot of its two resources (hardwood plank/marble) and gold ore also should not be a problem, if Gold tower start to work. Its overproduction is double of an Aunt Irma's basket, thats average cost in TO 4-5 GC...
- Magic ink, so, I dunno. Cost of its resource should be somewhere between 20-70 GC, momently there is not enough offer (exactly: no one) in TO to calculate a plain-dealing average, so it is just a tip. I think cost of papers and nib will go up dramatically, while map fragments go down, as at the moment about half as much as a few days/weeks ago.
Recycling manufactory is a must-have building. Its cost "normaly" 990 gem in Merchant, but limited amount, if I'm well, max. 3. So the 295 presents does not seem a high price, you may wait a half or one year obtain again this two plus, but who knows the future. All of 6 coal mines together can produce ~2280 coal/12h/level. A rec.manu. produce max. 212 coal/12h/level -- but never stops and eats building resources only once. On higher level, without 3-5 RMs and with a lot of smelters you have to search and build coal mines and buy coal in TO simultaneously, continuously...
- Other buffs I didn't try out, but imo "Employee of the month badge" is a little bit expensive: on average TO rates basis its resources cost ~30 GC. On other hand everyone has a lot of its two resources (hardwood plank/marble) and gold ore also should not be a problem, if Gold tower start to work. Its overproduction is double of an Aunt Irma's basket, thats average cost in TO 4-5 GC...
Expensive??????
Employee of the month badge is "half" exotic basket.
Exotic basket on my server cost ~150gc and badge cost 30-40gc.
On lvl 5 coinge if premium user buff you will get ~124gc with Employee of the month badge
Brankovics
17.12.13, 02:41
Oh, how can I migrate to Northisle?! On Sandycove an exo.basket/potion oee is about 170-220, badge is 60-70 gc. So you are right, better approach compare with exo.basket or potion of endless energy.
But calculation. If a coinage as near as can be to a storehouse (3 steps), then takes 14,75 cycles/6h. A well-timed 6h buff will cover 15 cycles, premium means +10% = 36 minutes, that could be 2 more turn (if coinage-storehouse distance is more than 11 steps, then premium can be only 1), that means 75-80-85 gc on lvl5. Badge overproduction is two time this.
Since everyone else has failed to answer your full question I will.
Rarity Provision House.
Makes cheaper and bigger fish and meat deposits with less clickage and allows you to free up your old style provision house for other stuff, No more being caught out and being unable to complete quests because your PH is tied up producing other stuff. The way you have asked the question says to me your at the stage of the game where making frags and badges is going to be a occasional thing due to your nor having the ore/papers/nibs to spare.
Recycling manufactory.
Each one of these frees up 3.5 building licences for use with other building or allows you to have extra pinewood logs for making bows/simple paper/pinewood planks.
If you have yet to clear your island then this building gives you the extra building slots so that you do not have to choose which "Have building X quest" to do
Brankovics
17.12.13, 11:21
Recycling manufactory. Each one of these frees up 3.5 building licences ...
How did you calculate this?
this building gives you the extra building slots
???
you do not have to choose which "Have building X quest" to do
??????
Presumed explanations:
> Recycling manufactory. Each one of these frees up 3.5 building licences ...
1 Recycler is the equivalent of 1 coking plant.
2 coking plants need 2 cutters and 3 foresters to feed them, thus, the coking chain is 7 total buildings, but includes 2 cokers to make it work. Each recycler could be considered the equivalent of 3.5 licences (half of the 7 total), and of course if you get both recyclers, you're saving all 7.
>this building gives you the extra building slots
Since it's only taking up 2 slots on your island instead of the 7 from the chain, you're saving 5 slots on your island.
>you do not have to choose which "Have building X quest" to do
Since you now have +7 licences if you get them both, you should find it easier to have at least 1 of each possible building in the game. So that when a quest comes asking if you 'have building X', or to 'produce item Y', you're more capable of delivering.
Probably too late now, but worth considering that the PH2 will be available for gems after the event. Stalkers are also unlimited from the merchant for gems and are tradable. Once you have bought your 3 recyclers from the merchant however, you cannot buy more and they are not tradable. Each one you miss in an event is one you will never be able to get again.
Ok, I see opinions seem divided. I asked because I doubt I will be able to buy the 2 recyclers AND the PH2. Anyway, I think if I am in shortage of presents I will prefer 2 Recyclers instead of a PH2. If I can afford more, I will buy 1 Recycler and the PH2. Thanks all for your replies.
Brankovics
17.12.13, 19:13
Presents costs momently about 14-16 gc on Sandycove. A week ago was 20-30. Event lasts 18 days more, on the last day it will be around 5-8 (just a tip). And every day an event quest reward. And explorers. You have plenty of time, Merchant stocks will not run out, and buildings will also work after event, so they will worth it on last day too. So IMHO you have fat chance to by RPH, 2 RM + a Deerstalker, a good adventure or whatever you want...
Bluesavanah
17.12.13, 20:00
I would assume between the quest line,explorers, collections and maybe some trading the provision house and the recyclers would be accessible by most, the PH2 will be available after the event but the gem cost is a bit steep on the test server, from memory 3500 gems.
Its worth should be based on the fact it gives access to a nice range of adventures at a relatively low cost if you make all the stuff, secondly there is no telling what buffs may become available in the future to build in there, thirdly you save 3500 gems. The employee badge is ok but not ground breaking, very situational where you would use it . Deposit refills nice bonus freeing up PH1 and saves alot of mouse clicks.
I personally would prioritise the 2 recyclers first, the PH2 second and get the stalkers at end of event when present prices drop
Hi OP,
If you purchase the "wrong" buyilding you can still sell it in game and buy something else.
The Rarity Provision House is probably one of the best building I could have hoped for.
My gold production is now 525gc per hour due to the triple buffs I can produce in the RPH.
Best
Nutters :-)
I would reccomend highly! triple buffs at your whim, more or less free map fragments and some more efficient (around 20%) deposits! Loving it thus far
Thanks for the calculations guys :) Bought about week ago and it's great :))) Now 2 more days for Gold Tower ;)
If you purchase the "wrong" buyilding you can still sell it in game and buy something else.
;) I didn't need DeerStalker Hut so I bought it - twice- and sold - twice - for 750 presents each ;)
310 extra presents ;) Which equals to free Recycling Manufactory ;)
On a sidenote, the rate at which you get presents is astonishing, way better than pumpkins. I've got 2 fast explorers and 3 normal explorers on a long treasure search as much as possible, and collect the collectibles at least once a day, and so far I've been able to buy the rarity provision house, both recycling manufactories, and I bought 7 noble houses for 60 presents each, and I've already got enough again to buy a deerstalker hut. But yes, haven't regretted the rarity provision house for a second, saves you so many clicks <3
rarity is bad because it only has 4 items and they are so expensive and not worth selling.
Wreckless-
06.01.14, 23:44
rarity is bad because it only has 4 items and they are so expensive and not worth selling.
That's a simplification.
With the Rare PH you have an unlimited supply of 3x buffs. Drop them on your goldmines, goldsmelters and coinages and lean back while the coins fill your coffers.
rarity is bad because it only has 4 items and they are so expensive and not worth selling.
You don't know what you are talking about ;)
That's a simplification.
With the Rare PH you have an unlimited supply of 3x buffs. Drop them on your goldmines, goldsmelters and coinages and lean back while the coins fill your coffers.
Here is my table about that:
http://www.adobescripts.com/Settlers/Settlers_Basket_Badge_Gold_Ore.png
From this thread: [Guide] When the new "Employee of the Month"-buff payes off in a gold chain. (http://forum.thesettlersonline.com/threads/26752-Guide-When-the-new-quot-Employee-of-the-Month-quot-buff-payes-off-in-a-gold-chain.?p=247438&viewfull=1#post247438)
Good evening all
I now have some 500 presents and face a dilemma: should I buy a Recycling Manufactory or should I wait to buy a Rarity Provision HOuse? Do you think the later is worth it? What do you think?
Buy the recycling manufactory. You can 100% buy the Rarity Provision House (a total, most likely liftime limit of 1, in the merchant shop after the christmas event with gems).
The recycling manufactory is a deal you CAN MISS! There is no limit on the number you can OWN, but there is a limit to how many you can get each time they are available. Put another way: You can get 3 from merchant shop *PLUS* the 2 from the christmas deal (total 5). If you miss the christmas deal, you will end up with only 3. If you wait till next christmas you can get TWO MORE (a total of 7 if you get this christmas and next, or a total of 5 if you miss this christmas).
So go for the missable ones first!
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