View Full Version : This game is dead bb read this
First of all this game was fantastic to play, lots to do lots to learn. i have been here for 4 years + and spent a lot of real money on the game as i believe in supporting the games dev/servers as i wish the game to expand and evolve as the years go by. well for the last month i have not played this game and intact i opened an account with a rival game franchise purely as bb/ubi have done little to nothing to regain the interest for higher level players to continue to play or for that matter and more importantly PAY YOU MORE MONEY. now to me being a paying customer i would expect its in your interests as a business after all to keep the hook in the mouth of the subscribed and incur rage them to what to break out that wallet again. the problem is you guys are to thick headed or being to controlled by the corporate show behind you which means your hands are tied to fully re kick starting this game.
i am sure you have seen massive sign outs of players mainly lvl 50's and this will only continue. the amount of lost revenue you are letting walk away and indecently its going to your rival's is an absurd move to make by not regularly updating the system with new goals buildings levels to attain challenges inflation i did really need to go on as all this is on other threads but i wanted to come back and make a point. the point is this
THE ONLY WAY THESE PEOPLE WILL LEARN THERE MISTAKES IS BY WALKING AWAY FROM THIS GAME!! they have managed to spoil something we love so much by doing nothing, they try to balance the mechanics and spent months if not years to implement new features well guess what you still bug out the game make it seriously unbalanced and expand nothing for the hard core devoted supporters that have put an awfull lot of time and money into this game and honestly now i am past my loss and will never make the investment i have done on here on any other game as you have let me down so very much with your lack of respect to players and investments. we are not sheep ( well i am not ) these companies only understand one thing guys vote with your feet and do not spend your money on this dying game just let it die. now if by some great turn of events bb would like to discuss this post with me and my attitude to my loved settlers i would welcome a conversation but id guess that beach in the Maldives would be much more inviting.
All the best in the future
Ogloz
fishybreath
06.10.14, 15:38
Awww
First of all this game was fantastic to play, lots to do lots to learn. i have been here for 4 years + and spent a lot of real money on the game as i believe in supporting the games dev/servers as i wish the game to expand and evolve as the years go by. well for the last month i have not played this game and intact i opened an account with a rival game franchise purely as bb/ubi have done little to nothing to regain the interest for higher level players to continue to play or for that matter and more importantly PAY YOU MORE MONEY. now to me being a paying customer i would expect its in your interests as a business after all to keep the hook in the mouth of the subscribed and incur rage them to what to break out that wallet again. the problem is you guys are to thick headed or being to controlled by the corporate show behind you which means your hands are tied to fully re kick starting this game.
i am sure you have seen massive sign outs of players mainly lvl 50's and this will only continue. the amount of lost revenue you are letting walk away and indecently its going to your rival's is an absurd move to make by not regularly updating the system with new goals buildings levels to attain challenges inflation i did really need to go on as all this is on other threads but i wanted to come back and make a point. the point is this
THE ONLY WAY THESE PEOPLE WILL LEARN THERE MISTAKES IS BY WALKING AWAY FROM THIS GAME!! they have managed to spoil something we love so much by doing nothing, they try to balance the mechanics and spent months if not years to implement new features well guess what you still bug out the game make it seriously unbalanced and expand nothing for the hard core devoted supporters that have put an awfull lot of time and money into this game and honestly now i am past my loss and will never make the investment i have done on here on any other game as you have let me down so very much with your lack of respect to players and investments. we are not sheep ( well i am not ) these companies only understand one thing guys vote with your feet and do not spend your money on this dying game just let it die. now if by some great turn of events bb would like to discuss this post with me and my attitude to my loved settlers i would welcome a conversation but id guess that beach in the Maldives would be much more inviting.
All the best in the future
Ogloz
This is sad. if you read this then you have missed out on the news the last month. PVP are coming and possibly some extra islands to build on. BB are working on new stuff.
i am curious you ay you been here for 4 plus years where is here as it wasnt settlers online?
Must just feel like 4 years lol
This is sad. if you read this then you have missed out on the news the last month. PVP are coming and possibly some extra islands to build on. BB are working on new stuff.
The PvP is available on the test server and it is a complete and utter waste of time. It's not even real PvP. You search for an island full of neutral enemies. If you beat them with a laggy and buggy combat system that is not working properly you get control over the island for a week. Who thought it would be a good idea to add real time elements with their useless servers is beyond me. You cannot visit the island and it gives you a small amount of resources ever 12 hours for those seven days it's yours. Unless someone attacks you island. You cannot do anything about that. You can only decide how many troops you leave on your worthless island. The computer does the actual fighting if someone bothers to attack. Did I mention that the resorces you get is less than the worth of the troops needed? When looking at the islands that give you gold ore, you need to pay more for the search alone than the gold is worth. So the devs cannot do basic maths.
BTW, you need a new set of generals and a new set of troops for the "PvP". A PvP that's still just PvE but with crap loot. As it currently stands, you are better of playing Secuded Experiment over and over again. They really should completely scrap the current PvP system because it's that useless.
Mortallicus
07.10.14, 13:06
The PvP is available on the test server and it is a complete and utter waste of time............ They really should completely scrap the current PvP system because it's that useless.
1. Its Pegi7
2. Some WILL probably like it
3. You are taking information from TEST which is what it says on the tin.
I prefer to wait until it comes live and then make a decision, and then to be fair put on my Pegi7 hat before having any kind of rant. But more likely if i stop enjoying the game i will disappear quietly into the mist because I would not want to spoil other's enjoyment of something I did also enjoy for over 2 years.
1. Its Pegi7
2. Some WILL probably like it
3. You are taking information from TEST which is what it says on the tin.
I prefer to wait until it comes live and then make a decision, and then to be fair put on my Pegi7 hat before having any kind of rant. But more likely if i stop enjoying the game i will disappear quietly into the mist because I would not want to spoil other's enjoyment of something I did also enjoy for over 2 years.
Isn't it better that people know what to expect? People seems to think that PvP will be the saviour of this game but the current system is broken to the core. The basic mechanics are boring and not even PvP at all. Even if they increase the loot massively, it's still a broken combat system that their servers cannot handle. It has a real time element that is way too sensitive to lag to work. They cannot do server side combat if they want a real time element. It has to be done client side but that will most likely never happen because of security issues. Mainly, Flash being one massive security hole. So the posibilities for cheating are too big.
So claiming that PvP will save the game are currently kidding themselves. The current system is broken to the core and considering the development time, a working system is ages away.
Go try the system on the test server and you'll see what I'm talking about.
Mortallicus
07.10.14, 13:42
Its only your view though Zotamedu and very strongly expressed. You are entitled to your opinion but you are basing it on a test version. Others may not understand that and realise that things that are hated on test come here and then are liked by most. The co-op adventures were thought little of but are done routinely in many guilds now. I also do play on Test but not too much as I know its going to change.
I read Gubbie's post very diffferently to you.It was a gentle reminder that other new stuff is happening. So try before you leave.
I enjoy the game for many different reasons and despite its faults. I do not understand why some rant on here at the drop of a glove. That will destroy the game faster than any mistakes BB may make. Constructive criticism is informative and making sure people understand Test is purely testing. I have noticed BB tend to leave the finer details until it goes live.
Its only your view though Zotamedu and very strongly expressed. You are entitled to your opinion but you are basing it on a test version. Others may not understand that and realise that things that are hated on test come here and then are liked by most. The co-op adventures were thought little of but are done routinely in many guilds now. I also do play on Test but not too much as I know its going to change.
I read Gubbie's post very diffferently to you.It was a gentle reminder that other new stuff is happening. So try before you leave.
I enjoy the game for many different reasons and despite its faults. I do not understand why some rant on here at the drop of a glove. That will destroy the game faster than any mistakes BB may make. Constructive criticism is informative and making sure people understand Test is purely testing. I have noticed BB tend to leave the finer details until it goes live.
Most of the co-op adventures are useless. It's basically only Whirlwind and Tomb Raider that are worth the effort. But the concept of co-op is good. They should work more with that and learn some actual maths so they can make more of them actually playable. It would also be nice if they opened a chat window specifically for the adventure so they could talk without spamming the guild chat.
Try reading what I write. The underlying mechanics of the current PvP system are broken. The combat DOES NOT WORK. The system is that you are pitching one stack of troops against eachother and you can change your stack either when the enemy stack is defeated or when your stack is defeated. There are three types of units so you are doing a basic rock, paper, scissors where you know what's coming up so you can react to it. Or you would be able to react if the lag allowed you to switch stacks. As it stands, too often the stacks will not change and then you have just lost a large chunk of your troops due to lag. There is also a limit to how many troops you can send so a lag spike can completely throw your chance of taking the island. So if we disregard that it's still a PvE fight, the basic combat mechanic does not work. The game cannot handle a real time element. It's impossible. So they have to change the core combat mechanic for it to be playable. How long do you think that will take?
Test is not purely for testing. They have brought through bugs and broken stuff very quickly from test in the past. Remember the football event? People complained about bugs in that on the test server. They still dumped that mess on live. What the test server is actually used for is a bit of a mystery actually.
Mortallicus
07.10.14, 14:38
The game does have its faults and BB do make mistakes. Overall I still enjoy it and hope that others do to.
What i do not understand, if people hate things so deeply and strongly, why they carry on playing. I think the reason they do carry on should be more strongly expressed than the problems. Would be nice :)
I also do not understand if you are going to stop why a long explanation is needed. Saying goodbye to friends would be a different matter.
The Test Server has its own forum where players can have a say. Anyway i have said enough on this thread I shall say no more.
ROLANDHOLLANDER
07.10.14, 19:53
i enjoy this game too
I have been playing for an year now, am at level 50 and enjoyed it a lot. However, these last weeks I care less and less on doing adventures, rebuilding mines, sending explorers out, etc. In fact, it's no longer a pleasure, but a chore. It is boring. Eventually I will quit the guild, so as not to have to be bothered on doing guild quests, then will stop rebuilding farms, wells, mines, etc and, one day, I will not bother to log on. THis has happened to me with Everquest 2, Diablo 3 and others. It's a natural process.
Why do I come here, complaining, instad of doing it? Because this is a superb game (in my opinion) that I'd love to continue playing, but it is almost the same as it was one year ago: some new adventures, some new generals, but these are peanuts. I am hanging on, waiting for pvp, but I have little hope, from what I read so far about it. If it is a disappointment, it's curtains. After all, there are many (free to play) games around.
I have done it before, I will do it again. Here are my suggestions:
So, here is what I want:
1. New island with very hard enemy camps, some of which could only be taken using a Major and where I would have to burn obscene amounts of cavalry, crossbowmen, cannoneers, etc. Something to keep me busy for more than a year;
2. After clearing the island, I would gain access to a grout mine. And the XP got from clearing it would take me to lv 60;
3. Lv 60 would unlock a new unit, Griffin or Paladin or whatever, that would require grout to build.
4. Also, lv 60 would unlock a new set of adventures: some camps would require Griffin or Paladin to be defeated, enemies at most camps would be RANDOM, and with one or two new buildings as rewards.
Remember: «variety is the spice of life»
I have been playing for an year now, am at level 50 and enjoyed it a lot. However, these last weeks I care less and less on doing adventures, rebuilding mines, sending explorers out, etc. In fact, it's no longer a pleasure, but a chore. It is boring. Eventually I will quit the guild, so as not to have to be bothered on doing guild quests, then will stop rebuilding farms, wells, mines, etc and, one day, I will not bother to log on. THis has happened to me with Everquest 2, Diablo 3 and others. It's a natural process.
Why do I come here, complaining, instad of doing it? Because this is a superb game (in my opinion) that I'd love to continue playing, but it is almost the same as it was one year ago: some new adventures, some new generals, but these are peanuts. I am hanging on, waiting for pvp, but I have little hope, from what I read so far about it. If it is a disappointment, it's curtains. After all, there are many (free to play) games around.
I have done it before, I will do it again. Here are my suggestions:
So, here is what I want:
1. New island with very hard enemy camps, some of which could only be taken using a Major and where I would have to burn obscene amounts of cavalry, crossbowmen, cannoneers, etc. Something to keep me busy for more than a year;
2. After clearing the island, I would gain access to a grout mine. And the XP got from clearing it would take me to lv 60;
3. Lv 60 would unlock a new unit, Griffin or Paladin or whatever, that would require grout to build.
4. Also, lv 60 would unlock a new set of adventures: some camps would require Griffin or Paladin to be defeated, enemies at most camps would be RANDOM, and with one or two new buildings as rewards.
Remember: «variety is the spice of life»
1. everyone still will play adventures and collecting resources, no point to spending army on something you actually don't need and is too expensive
2,3 and 4
no point to adding more lvl, always will be max level and you will want more lvl
BB just can give us all that for star coins.
new units for star coins, grount for star coins etc.....
BB must give us new stuff for star coins that is must be point of star coins. We must play adventure to collect star coins and we will able to get new stuffs with star coins
Star coins & magic beans: both great ideas with bags of potential that have failed to be developed further. Shame.
Corona, by that logic, no point in adding levels beyond level 1, or adding more than 1 adventure, or troops besides recruits, etc. True, people would still play adventures, collect resources and such, but I am sure people would also spend their armies on tackling a new island, just because it would be a challenge. I know I would. If you check, you will see that beyond, for instance, level 40, new troops, buildings and adventures are made available, so it's only natural new ones are made available between levels 50 and 60. All games have a life expectancy, so developers produce expansion packs and such to prolong the longevity. Here we are stuck on level 50 since the game went live.
Anyway, regardless of my suggestion, what I mean is: now new SERIOUS content, the game eventually will fade. It's a natural cycle.
you need lvl 50 to unlock all buildings, units and shop category, but now after they put star coins no point to add new levels. on lvl 50 game must start not end. They can put a lot thing for star coins
we must be able to use star coin on useful things.
they can put new builds for star coins, buildings will use licence like normal buildings. titatinum ore mine, saltpeter mine.....
also maybe they can put general for 1 use (100 star coins 1 min traver general with 5 units, 2k star coins general with 300 troops after you finish adventure general will disappear)
This bb must make better
Star coins & magic beans: both great ideas with bags of potential that have failed to be developed further. Shame.
There are a lot of simple things they could add to make things nicer for us lv50's. I fully agree about beans and star coins. For now I buy gems, CLT and premium with star coins. I have 3 of each catapult and assassins. I would have loved to see things like corona88 mentions. Simple stuff could also be temporary QM general, make it a once only use, but u buy it with star coins. Or a buff u can add to a normal general to allow him to travel twice as fast. Same theme as corona88, I only mention slightly different things to illustrate how easy it would be to come up with half a dozen simple ideas to make the Epic Shop more useful and to allow us more variety.
Currently I spend most of my time trying to make my island maintenance free. I am starting to get very sick of water wells, wheat fields, (fish farms are fixed now nice), and mines. Its become a chore and something I force myself to do, so I can get to play the adventures I really love. I can see adventures getting old too. Some of the co-ops were nice, but I was really hoping for some new adventures akin to BK & RB.
But i guess that is what happens in games, you eventually get bored with stuff and things start to become a chore. However I think for us lv50's if there was an easier way to address these without spending copious amounts of real life money, or a year to gain enough coins to buy what we need, it may hold some of us enthralled for longer.
Great game, bad execution, and horrible management is how i sum up the current stare of affairs. Seems they are targeting new players only, and dont care about the lv50's.
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