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Bagster
31.07.15, 09:13
Hi, can anyone explain me what i'm missing by looking on worldwide pvp efficiency ranking?

I can't understand how people can manage to get 8.xx efficiency. I'm at 2.xx, and don't know what I can do to raise it.

Any suggestions welcome!

(and please no reply only to complain about pvp, I already know many of you don't like it, but I like to do fast pvp maps before going to work)

corona88
31.07.15, 11:42
PVP effciency=luck

Bagster
31.07.15, 11:48
I can understand luck with some camps, but some people have 5.xx efficiency with 30k units killed.
I'm pvp level 10, so have done some expeditions, but I never saw 20 troops kill 100 enemies

corona88
31.07.15, 12:29
when player put bad defence you have higherefficiency. when he put good you have lower everything depend on that.

SwampHen
04.08.15, 01:01
This is speculation, but I have wondered if it has to do with "efficiently" killing off whole sectors by killing the leader. You maximise the number of defeated units when you kill off the leader of a sector, even if you don't get the XP for the units defeated that way.

Peajay
04.08.15, 02:40
I think it is how many troops used compared to what the map allows you to send, but we need someone from BlueByte to confirm.
On the test server I tried to kill every leader camp to maximize XP, and had an average efficiency of 1.83 so more losses meant lower efficiency.

ksinori
04.08.15, 06:36
The ways of BB are mysterious.
Two different rules apply to ranking list's.

When going for effieciency, and use blocking, you get credit for all camps in a sector, when killing the leader camp.
When going for XP - you do not want to use blocking, as you get no credit for other camps, than those you kill with attack troops.

The entire ranking system is a luck thing. You of course need the basiscs skills, but what BB do with their ranking list is, that they compare bananas with submarines and televisions. We play different maps every time, so go for the luck. ;-)

Chiefofserbia
04.08.15, 07:59
You can always achieve at least 4x efficiency on any map, and any defence, with a bit of luck you can get 10x efficiency.
One good suggestion is to use a block with 6 type of units and one of each. It last as a block of 16 heavy units.

SmurfAsH
04.08.15, 12:44
..they compare bananas with submarines and televisions.
They can all be yellow, but often differ in shape and/or size.. ;)

BB_Ravel
04.08.15, 13:49
PvP efficiency is a fraction obtained by dividing the number of defeated units by the number of lost units.

E.g.
You defeated 100 units and you are so awesome that you only lost 5 units in the process?
PvP efficiency is 100/5, so 20.

Can't explain it better than that, guys.

ksinori
04.08.15, 20:09
Cannot blame you Ravel - but you should dig in to that strange logic the germans has invented for PvP XP - and ranking lists. Too many creative guys, and not enough guys to fix the problems.

Lately - the bugs has just gone worse on expedition islands (Large/Huge tier 3). A marshall that jump from a camp to one he could not be intecepted by. That is a downer - and we also gets repeat-repeat-repeat on map boss now. Conclusion is - BB is breaking more than they are fixing on exp. islands, at the moment.

In that order - we really just laugh at anything new stuff (storm recovery scenario and Ali Baba). We=the players. Earn our trust back - now.

When the guys that do expedition islands - we're not that many - can tell the rest of the community, that the bugs are fixed - more might feel like trying.

I am truely amazed that a lot of the bugs on expedition islands are still there. And it is for certain - I am done wasting my time on support - they are totally clueless on colonies/expedition islands/PvP....hmm...that was all the terms used, right?

Personally - I take the bugs on expedition islands as....collateral damage, in order to keep the frustrations away. But I do wish for more logic.

corona88
06.08.15, 16:27
This is speculation, but I have wondered if it has to do with "efficiently" killing off whole sectors by killing the leader. You maximise the number of defeated units when you kill off the leader of a sector, even if you don't get the XP for the units defeated that way.
If you don't know, that not means to someone else don't know

EctoRune
06.08.15, 18:35
PvP efficiency is a fraction obtained by dividing the number of defeated units by the number of lost units.

E.g.
You defeated 100 units and you are so awesome that you only lost 5 units in the process?
PvP efficiency is 100/5, so 20.

Can't explain it better than that, guys.

Do camps that are deleted by removing their leaders count in the efficiency calculation? That is to say: If I remove a leader, removing 4 other camps in the process, will the efficiency calculation act like I killed all the camps, or just the leaders?

I'm asking because for XP, colonies only award points for camps you actually kill, not the ones that are removed when the leader disappears (unlike adventures) - so the behaviour isn't entirely clear to me.

ViliusV
07.08.15, 10:59
I can explain how you get EFF this high :) i did july with 5,3eff and 100k units killed it means a lot colonies done and its my avr eff but not best what i could do cuz start wasn't that well. So eff counts as you know 100 killed with 20 loose to get eff 5. To do that you just need kill sector leaders and boss the rest camps counts as killed too, for eff but it doesnt count for XP. So there is to ways how to play PVP to play for EFF or for XP you decide yourself. So most player who have high eff they look for, most time small colonies witch they finish with lets say 1-3 camps killed. The rest they just block and use all medic pack. In end they have just one alive general with all medic pack used. As for Tip i offer try to kill boss first then you can go around and kill the rest leaders from back sometimes without even block.
And for those who want to get water castle first kill as much units as you can and dont care about EFF :)

Driller7
10.08.15, 17:17
I can explain how you get EFF this high :) i did july with 5,3eff and 100k units killed it means a lot colonies done and its my avr eff but not best what i could do cuz start wasn't that well. So eff counts as you know 100 killed with 20 loose to get eff 5. To do that you just need kill sector leaders and boss the rest camps counts as killed too, for eff but it doesnt count for XP. So there is to ways how to play PVP to play for EFF or for XP you decide yourself. So most player who have high eff they look for, most time small colonies witch they finish with lets say 1-3 camps killed. The rest they just block and use all medic pack. In end they have just one alive general with all medic pack used. As for Tip i offer try to kill boss first then you can go around and kill the rest leaders from back sometimes without even block.
And for those who want to get water castle first kill as much units as you can and dont care about EFF :)

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