Leveling

[Ubique-66]

I have been playing this game for over 2 years and in the last year have not levelled at all. Does anyone else find this a difficult game to level? Stuck at level 38 atm seems to be no help or quests to help and next questline/advancement seems to be at level 40/41. I know adventures seem to be the way to go but I have only limited time per day to play and find it expensive and time consuming to adventure. I mainly only have time to maintain my island and do the odd quest.

So main question is I guess any other way to level?

[DrBoom]

I suggest to you to play a single player level 26 adventure - Horseback (1000 recruits::R::) , horseback single-player adventure gives you 7230 xp ::xp:: !

[ViliusV]

you also can play PVP you can finish PVP in 30min if you get fast on it.

[minion79]

you also can play PVP you can finish PVP in 30min if you get fast on it.

Unfortunately though PvP will only gain you PvP xp and PvP level increases. PvP will not help you reach the main level 50 (Now extended with the launch of XXL pack to level 75) You can try the resource scenario adventures, they require you to produce a few items in provision house and find items on the adventure map, but no troops needed. Not sure of the xp rewards but is an alternative to killing to level up.

[faivq]

There was a question about `Advanced Options` window here - I found it finally but please devs keep in mind that we don't remember by heart ALL the windows in the game - if we have to open ANOTHER window(s) before the required one please don't be lazy to mention it literally in the help.

[topgearfan]

have you ever wondered why some of your interface starts glowing when you get such a quest?

[ViliusV]

yeah my bad sorry.

i was right :) so comment changed ...

[Ubique-66]

Thanks for the replies, will look further into tomorrow :)

[Teardrop46]

we do stealing from the rich alone 11800 xp, done with soldiers/recruits / cavalry /long bow men. it can be done in about an hour with 3/4 generals fast or about 2/3 hours with slow generals. it can be done with loses of about 200 soldiers.
if done with a premium (we only used ones that they gave us free) you get extra xp. it levels you up quite quickly. We mostly only do adventures on weekends/holidays.

[pauantbro]

mini adventures....lost souls is a good one :-)

[Dorotheus]

You can't beat a good old fashioned lootspot for power leveling.

[ViliusV]

Unfortunately though PvP will only gain you PvP xp and PvP level increases. PvP will not help you reach the main level 50 (Now extended with the launch of XXL pack to level 75) You can try the resource scenario adventures, they require you to produce a few items in provision house and find items on the adventure map, but no troops needed. Not sure of the xp rewards but is an alternative to killing to level up.

Ahh sorry but you are wrong PVP give XP for PVP and not here is the proof :)
http://prntscr.com/8m38ux

[minion79]

Thanks VilliusV for setting the record straight.

[ABeaney]

Sorry - Just need to check what I'm reading here

I thought that if you brought a loot spot it was for loot - you only got the XP or the kills you made - Has this changed?

Do you get XP from all PVP or is it just luck?

[Dorotheus]

xp from loot-spots should get you to level 75 in time for Xmas, Xmas 4924. though if your not willing to play at such a hectic pace and have the occasional power nap then it will take you somewhat longer

[Bluesavanah]

xp from loot-spots should get you to level 75 in time for Xmas, Xmas 4924. though if your not willing to play at such a hectic pace and have the occasional power nap then it will take you somewhat longer

For those needing power naps remember to send an MMA to all ls (extra xp per ls).

[MrLecti]

I went from lvl45 - lvl50 in about two weeks using horseback, Nords and a couple of valiant little tailors plus a few well timed premium days.

You can finish a longer high xp adventure like valiant little tailor, then let your troops restock before applying premium and then "completing" it. That way you get the premium bonus and can go straight into another adventure to maximize the return from premium.

[Xibor]

I think Surprise Attack is fast and great experience, and can be done with limited losses depending on what you have to work with. There are several blocks that need elite soldiers however (quite a few of them if all blocks are used). Otherwise, I agree with some of the other posts - Nords is great if you have a veteran and 250 crossbows, wonderful experience for the cost.

[ATHTHEMANIAC]

having just recently looked at leveling...it seems that its goner be a ridiculous journey...my thoughts are that the best available adventure on a regular basis for level 45+'s is rb (you can make your own map frags). this adventure takes about 1hr 30 to complete on avg...and uses a minimum of 400r's (these take 4hrs to make in barrack)...so really you can only do maybe 3 a day if your lucky....thats equates to 51k xp daily...18.615.00 yearly...given u need over a billion xp for lvl 75 is it realistic to play tso for the next 50yrs to get there??...ofc your can uses buffs on barrack but eventually every one will run out of them....you could buy gems and go prem but then its not a free game any more...so unless something changes with the ability to make troops faster...then its doe seem like it will be my grandsons who will actually reach lvl 75...not me...lol

[Dorotheus]

having just recently looked at leveling...it seems that its goner be a ridiculous journey...my thoughts are that the best available adventure on a regular basis for level 45+'s is rb (you can make your own map frags). this adventure takes about 1hr 30 to complete on avg...and uses a minimum of 400r's (these take 4hrs to make in barrack)...so really you can only do maybe 3 a day if your lucky....thats equates to 51k xp daily...18.615.00 yearly...given u need over a billion xp for lvl 75 is it realistic to play tso for the next 50yrs to get there??...ofc your can uses buffs on barrack but eventually every one will run out of them....you could buy gems and go prem but then its not a free game any more...so unless something changes with the ability to make troops faster...then its doe seem like it will be my grandsons who will actually reach lvl 75...not me...lol

The picture you paint is not complete.

Assuming you have reached level 42 you are now at the point where all your previous leveling can start paying off. First of all your going to be running bread and butter adventures say BK and RB (personal choice will decide which 2), these give you 3 things xp, res and most importantly a income which you can plough back into more adventures. Given a bit of time you will be ready to start doing the FT's which are now where the real xp for leveling is, on paper you could in theory obtain over 38 million xp per day but a couple of hundred k a day is a more realistic figure. Given this level 56 is a realistically achievable goal where you can start making the new troops for the ali baba's with there even larger xp rewards. presumably BB have got more adventures in the pipeline with even larger xp rewards.

[Bluesavanah]

on paper you could in theory obtain over 38 million xp per day but a couple of hundred k a day is a more realistic figure.

I'm going to guess that's a typo, if not please share your secret.

I can see where ATHTHEMANIAC is coming from to a degree, people with work / life / family are going to find this a very long and probably tedious journey to even reach 56 and the new adventures. This sort of worries me a bit because all the casual players might get fed up and leave.

[Dorotheus]

Not a typo, but it relies so much on other players doing the right thing at the right time and getting the exact right loot drops the chances of it actually happening are so remote that it's close to zero but not close enough that you could say it could never happen in a lifetime.

[ATHTHEMANIAC]

lmao dorotheus...let me explain in simpler terms :)

1 ) an un buffed barracks can produce 100 settlers every hour....it takes a minimum of 4 hrs to make 400 troops that is enough for 1 rb adv giving 17k xp...which in turn means you can only run 2 rb adv every 8hrs...34k xp....(238k xp per week)

2) an vlt costs 3500,1900bow 337 militai according to the info i have,so to make the troops for this would take 35hrs recruits..25hrs bowmen...9hrs for militia...that's 68hrs to make the troops for 1 vlt getting 80k xp..(160k xp per week as u can do this twice)

so pls explain how you can make enough troops for 38million xp a day....or if u prefer how u can achieve 100k's of xp a day, every day 7 days a week ?

as i see it unless my maths are total wrong and i can't see where they are (maybe i am stupid)...but you are limited by the speed of the barracks i have a lvl 5 and it takes 15min for 25r's 20min for 25 bowmen and 40min for 25 militia...unless my barracks is broken in some way my figures are correct...

[Dappadon]

Well i get around it by using x2 skunks a day. this allows me to do 8 to 10 outlaws a day, ok outlaws not the best xp at just over 14k non premium but it gives me over 100k xp a day, i do outlaws as i like the average 10k a day granite i get.

Now outlaws for me is the same losses as bk, i could do easy 8 to 10 bk a day thus now giving me 250k to 300k xp a day.

Now before you start I admit people with hectic work life cant do this so they need to adapt to what suits there play time.

This seems to be what most tso players do, they use 2 skunks a day.

[hades8840]

would love the breakdown of 38 million xp in a day ..did look for the decimal point didnt see one is this based off the new ali baba adv or the old fairytale either way break it down for the unenlightened ones please

[ATHTHEMANIAC]

dappadon....after a while u will run outta skunks then what how many can u run and how much xp a day will you be on then ?..

[Dappadon]

dappadon....after a while u will run outta skunks then what how many can u run and how much xp a day will you be on then ?..

If i make no more skunks (which i will) i will run out of skunks sometime in the year 2019

[lordloocan]

I can get the 38million a day, maybe lol. All you need is to be able to buy every ft ls that comes on trade, have premium on, get panda etc in loot drops (x2 for premium) and do those whilst heading to the next ft ls you got instantly after the first one ended. Seems highly likely to happen - not.

[Brayarg]

The only way I can see of getting 38million a day is from scenarios or the new mini quests.. both options would bypass any need for troops/skunks/barracks.

[ATHTHEMANIAC]

at 100k for the top mini quest u would nee to do 380 bray :P...thats 190ls in a 24hrs....i like to see that :)

hmm dappadon so you got 2920 skunks in your menu?...how u get 43800 banners?...lol

[Dappadon]

Again its possible to do a ls every 30 seconds to 1 minute if you are using arrows and assasins.


So it is possible however very highly unlikely.

[Brayarg]

Its still possible just not by me lol :)

[ATHTHEMANIAC]

if people read my original post...you will see that in fact your talking about hypotheticals and whats is actually possible on a daily basis until you reach lvl 75 is to diff things..
it is not possible to do a ls in 30sec all not when u have to msg the seller,wait for a reply,wait for inv/accept inv wait for adventure to turn up and then got the adv map,then drop buff then wait for final attack to be sent...this is disspite using an battle buff and also relies on every loot spot dropping the mini adventures....so i would say 5min min and that still means playing for 15.8 hrs a day all the way to lvl 75....so i think not..unless you can honestly state that from seeing an offer in trade to that adventure ending in 30secs??..lol

all this digresses from my original post which is about the real world and the time its going to take to get to lvl 75..:) without buff as stated and non prem

[Brayarg]

so pls explain how you can make enough troops for 38million xp a day....or if u prefer how u can achieve 100k's of xp a day, every day 7 days a week ?

You requested an answer, I gave an example of how you can make enough troops to gain 38 million xp a day, I didn't say this would be possible to do every single day all the way to 75... and your question doesn't really ask this either, Just says "a day" I could in theory achieve this two days running, maybe even a week of it.

[Dappadon]

You also asked how it was possible to do more adv to gain more xp, but regardless of a few player giving you simple easy to achieve selections your still not happy, i too like Brayarg have answered your question, even if you cant make a skunk they are basically free to buy in at 200gc approx.

[Dappadon]

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hmm dappadon so you got 2920 skunks in your menu?...how u get 43800 banners?...lol


Thats the simple part, trade for banners

[Brayarg]

Also, Just to note, it takes around 56-57 mins to replace the nords losses, So to sustain 24 a day would be manageable in the barracks...On premium that would equal 100k's a day, even off of premium it would equal 100k's a day too. Sleep on the other hand is entirely a different matter lol :)

[Bluesavanah]

all this digresses from my original post which is about the real world and the time its going to take to get to lvl 75..:) without buff as stated and non prem

why would you run no buff on barracks that is not realistic. But in answer to your question you can earn 50k xp from bk unbuffed, no blocks, no premium level 5 barracks. Start blocking and you can push it up towards 200k xp per day, start throwing in low loss adventures like nords probably a bit higher.

[Dorotheus]

My answer was based on being able to to a HLT or BLT ls every 5 mins over a period of 16 hours, it relies on the fact that the other ls buyer also uses a buff kill. From what I've heard only HLT and BLT have a chance of dropping the Panda nearly every time. Obviously you need the purchasing power to be able to do that. You also need the LS loot to also include the planks you need to do the Panda.

As I said it works on paper but the chances of it happening in real life are pretty remote. it would be like a football team wining every match in a year by exactly 2 goals.

FYI The info that i've obtained is that:-
HLT/BLT miniquest drop rate is near 100%
SLT/CLT about 50%
VLT bewteen 20%-25%

[ATHTHEMANIAC]

ok i concede you can maybe in fact get 100k or even 200k in a burst of xp on 1 given day...but in truth and so no one misunderstands the point i am trying to make is what in actual avg xp you can gain over a sustained period of time..whether that be 3 months /6 months and with this actual avg figure how long to get 1 billion xp...the figure i calculate is 57k xp (3 rb's 400r's each) this is due to the amount of troop that can be made (100/hr lvl5 125/hr lvl6)

i myself can do a day of burst xp with 3/4 ft's if starting on a monday pre-made stock for 2 of them and plenty of myers dropped while playing to make the troops for the other 2 and using maint to extend a prem coin by 6-8hrs ...but this cant be done every day so its a pointless figure on its own...only when added to the xp gain the rest of the week does it raise the xp for the 7 days but then even that will stop eventually as i run outta prem coins...

bluesavanah the reason i say unbuffed is because i calculate sooner or later i will run outta skunks/myers to buff my barracks...and i think the majority of people might end up in the same situtaion if using 1/2 skunks a day...as there is a finite amount of ingrediants around to make them (i maybe wrong)

[Bluesavanah]

bluesavanah the reason i say unbuffed is because i calculate sooner or later i will run outta skunks/myers to buff my barracks...and i think the majority of people might end up in the same situtaion if using 1/2 skunks a day...as there is a finite amount of ingrediants around to make them (i maybe wrong)

Now this is an an interesting point and something that has crossed my mind, not so much that players will run out but why after acquiring a lot of extra space has the collectibles not risen pro-rata.

[ATHTHEMANIAC]

once the masses realise the problem with speed of barracks you wont be able to buy any "extra" banners for skunks....so you will be stuck with what can find per spawn...given that a skunk takes 15 banner your most peoples stocks will dry up,so that coupled with the barrack speed will imo be the defining bottle neck for the vast majority of players...excluding them super rich gem buyers....lol

this will as i see it only ease slightly when reaching lvl 54 and you can build the new barracks and use troops on alternate days...ie...run old adventure while building new troops type and run new adv while building old troop types...:)

this might also increase the amount of long term daily xp your able to gain...a figure i would also like to calculate

[Dorotheus]

I'm sorry but the barracks bottleneck has always existed, likewise the limitation of the number of banners/skunks has also been around since they was introduced.

Looking at your join date I see you was here back when there was no collectibles to make buffs with, there was no skunks, there was no explorer found buffs. Back then unless it was a platter/sandwich/basket any buff you obtained you held onto for emergency's or when you could get absolute best value out of it. Now I want you to think back to when you was level 25 and at how much daily xp you was getting, the yawning gap between level 39 and 40 left you with a feeling of how long is that going to take. At level 35 the gap between 49 and 50 looked equally daunting. Now you are doing the same looking at later levels but you have forgotten that as you level up your ability to gain xp per day increases. Adventures which you could only run once a week you could now spam by the hour except you don't because they are too low level and don't give the sort of resources you now require, instead you spam by the hour adventures which were beyond your abilities and which the game would not let you even start because your level was not high enough.

Quite simply asking how many xp you can make in a day at a certain level and then using that answer to figure out how long it will take you to reach max level is going to give you a false answer no matter who answers the question. Once we have players both gem buyers and F2P at top level we can then give a time frame based on experience but until then the best your going to get is a educated guess based on what we know now, which if history tells us anything it tells us we don't yet know everything we need to know to give a realistic and reliable answer.

In short trying to calculate it now the only answer your going to get will be a wrong answer.

[Stylopora]

very good reply Dorotheus