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Yo, first thing i am MAD ! second, let get to the issue. first issue there is no more landing at the bottom under 3rd witch tower. first block doesnt work anymore (http://www.thesettlersonlinewiki.com/uploads/1268057937Roaring=bull=MA=MG=blocks.png) so what [Removed] did u change!!!!!:mad::mad::mad::mad:
Please don't swear.
they fixed what was a mistake in the first place, just go back to using the original guides.
lordloocan
21.10.15, 17:59
Seems original guides do not work either as they have moved the tower on the right as well as removing the attack spots over there. Oddly nothing on any logs about them doing these changes.
No it is not fixed! i am not stupid
I would love to speak with that person who changed that, so i can tell him some very nice words!
Mannerheim
21.10.15, 19:16
It goes just like Kit says, they fixed the previous extra landing zone thing that slipped in few months ago. Also blocking is considered to be an exploit and not officially supported by BB in regular adventures. There is really no place to complain.
they fixed what was a mistake in the first place, just go back to using the original guides.
he use old guide, check his link
It goes just like Kit says, they fixed the previous extra landing zone thing that slipped in few months ago. Also blocking is considered to be an exploit and not officially supported by BB in regular adventures. There is really no place to complain.
Not correct, they move position of wt. even old guide is out of date
Mannerheim
21.10.15, 19:31
Not correct, they move position of wt. even old guide is out of date
Yeah I was mainly commenting the sector change that was a bug itself. For any other adjustment there is not much room to complain since there is no problem if played like BB has designed :rolleyes:
working on new guide corona88? :D
It goes just like Kit says, they fixed the previous extra landing zone thing that slipped in few months ago. Also blocking is considered to be an exploit and not officially supported by BB in regular adventures. There is really no place to complain.
why do they supply a general then that states its good for blocking
still no answer from BB, [Removed]
Please don't use insulting language.
forgot to say, i want all my units back and RB adv!
ATHTHEMANIAC
23.10.15, 17:19
so basically cause players where doing to many rb;s bb have changed it once again proves what a great company bb are...robbing players left right and centre...
bb idea is we all do 1 adv a day and pay them for that....they can go whistle in the wind as far as i am concerned...maybe other should tell them the same...
This is just silly. If you were doing it for XP, they you could do it fully, but if you just wanted loot they you could do short runs. I did it both ways, depending on situation. It's not like you have endless supplies of adventures to do this. This "fix" was totally unnecessary. there is so much more things you could do in this game to make it better, rather than making stuff like this.
Edit: It seams you know what you were doing though, since this quest was slipped quietly into waiting quest queue right after the "fix".
This is just silly. If you were doing it for XP, they you could do it fully, but if you just wanted loot they you could do short runs. I did it both ways, depending on situation. It's not like you have endless supplies of adventures to do this. This "fix" was totally unnecessary. there is so much more things you could do in this game to make it better, rather than making stuff like this.
Edit: It seams you know what you were doing though, since this quest was slipped quietly into waiting quest queue right after the "fix".
Whilst I can see why they would do it, and personally am a little miffed as only just recently got my MG, so only managed to use the `short version' a few times. The points that Shultz makes have highlighted what I feel is most offensive about this change.
i) To `sneak' it in with the launch of the event, knowing that most players attention on addy's would move from RB to BK and others dropping pumkins, and to compound/ add credibility to this `sneakyness' by not including it in any of the change logs. Does the Devs no credit, both as game developers and people in general. If you want to correct a mistake, own up to it first, put you case, allow us to feedback then make the change.
ii) You failed, as always to listen to experienced players, who warned of what would happen if you deployed xxl so close to an event. Bugs came out of the woodwork thick and fast! Once again you applied quick fixes, and once again these quick fixes brought back old `fixed' bugs. With xxl, Halloween event and bug fixes/ addy rebalancing going on virtually the same patch, is it no wonder you have problems finding the cause of issues and properly fixing them. I have to ask if sneaking in this re-balance to RB was really worth the risk applying it during this patch?
iii)At the risk of repeating myself ad nauseam stop nerfing adventures player like to do because they are `balanced' and re-balance the ones they currently avoid by making them more attractive, how hard can it be to change loot or bandit camp contents? after all you've already shown you can do it with last November weapons removal ( Not saying you got it right even then, but it showed you knew how ;) )
iv) Give us full change logs ( @Devs, not Ravel who I know is trying really hard ) We the players, might then help you find which codes you have just altered/ added are creating problems. Sneaking in stuff, means we may be blaming innocent content, which helps no-one, Devs or players.
Sir_Galavant
10.11.15, 18:51
.. This "fix" was totally unnecessary. there is so much more things you could do in this game to make it better, rather than making stuff like this....
^+1
count me among the mad ones...this kind of things (shall we call it greed?) just push me to shut down the game for good!
I agree that if something is fixed that BB must make an announcement about it.
lordloocan
10.11.15, 22:27
The landing zones to the right were never meant to be there, they simply removed them. Ok it makes the fast churn of RB a bit slower for those who see the lootspots as a coin fund but they will still be done.
ATHTHEMANIAC
11.11.15, 04:13
removing the southern landing zone i dont have a big problem with...
but changing the adv to increase troop loses just because loads of people (maybe to many in BB opinion) are playing it stinks to high heaven...and to do it without mentioning it screams off ....well cant say as thr thought police will only give me yet another warning...lol
any1 from you BB guys can please explain me how the camp by WT2 got closer to it? is it a bug?
or is it normal now for you to change adventures without mentioning that in the change log?
the landing zones behind WT3 appeared and disappeared without any comment... weird
why wasn't/isn't there any info about changes affecting the most played adventure?
just not fair I think
I'm really thrilled by the new content - but I agree with this inasmuch as it seems a bit harsh to have to relearn what we thought were the existing staples.
I went to RB, saw the South East free sector was changed and cancelled - troops were all wrong!
Was not too bothered - went back to the old setup I used and found this does not work either because WT2 has moved.
BB want us to adventure - but is there any point in my working out new methods or will it change again?
Will other adventures change? BB should comment on this - Unless I'm wrong and they actually want to put us off adventuring?!?
removing the southern landing zone i dont have a big problem with...
but changing the adv to increase troop loses just because loads of people (maybe to many in BB opinion) are playing it stinks to high heaven...and to do it without mentioning it screams off ....well cant say as thr thought police will only give me yet another warning...lol
I agree with you. The new landing zone was clearly not meant to be and it made it way too easy to score the quick loot. So when it was removed it was kind of disappointing but I couldn't really argue with it.
However I've since been reading that towers have moved, battles are different, etc. and haven't taken the time to look into the details personally but I will at some point and it is quite shocking it was all done without a maintenance/change log/some kind of communication and letting people just find out the hard way. That is clearly not fair.
SoldierOfFortune
11.11.15, 23:51
I have no problem with the new state in case there was also increased the drop rate of the Witch Tower :)
ATHTHEMANIAC
12.11.15, 00:06
lol some chance m8.....bb want us to suffer more loses so we can do less adventures...or am i the only one that read that bit of last years statement when ncs was coming in...lol...
less adventure = more time to level = more time playing = higher chance you will by gems....simples....
I have no problem with the new state in case there was also increased the drop rate of the Witch Tower :)
I'm afraid that might be wishful thinking ;)
Sharpielein
12.11.15, 08:23
Since high level players have moved to Ali Baba and mid-high levels moved on to Fairytales, RB is now just a scrap lowlevel adventure anyways that has zero impact on overall gameplay any more.
They got time for THIS, but not to fix the Collectibles issue.
Once again, BB only "fixes" stuff that makes players happy - but leaves the bugs in that irritate the heck out of us.
Come to see a pattern ...
Since high level players have moved to Ali Baba and mid-high levels moved on to Fairytales, RB is now just a scrap lowlevel adventure anyways that has zero impact on overall gameplay any more.
They got time for THIS, but not to fix the Collectibles issue.
Once again, BB only "fixes" stuff that makes players happy - but leaves the bugs in that irritate the heck out of us.
Come to see a pattern ...
Step back and take 10 deep breaths.
Since high level players have moved to Ali Baba and mid-high levels moved on to Fairytales, RB is now just a scrap lowlevel adventure anyways that has zero impact on overall gameplay any more.
They got time for THIS, but not to fix the Collectibles issue.
Once again, BB only "fixes" stuff that makes players happy - but leaves the bugs in that irritate the heck out of us.
Come to see a pattern ...
We all have different playing styles. Sometimes I'm not in the mood to do something large and like to relax and do something smallish and not have to over-check everything. Also playing what you are calling 'scrap low-level adventures' allow me to rebuild certain weapons faster if I'm low on them, I collect a whole lot of the adventure collectibles which I often use. I like many of the non-fairy tale adventures and intend to keep playing them.
And please remember there are people up-and-coming that deserve more than adventures (apparently) randomly changing on them. I think your point of view applies only to yourself.
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i) To `sneak' it in with the launch of the event, knowing that most players attention on addy's would move from RB to BK and others dropping pumkins, and to compound/ add credibility to this `sneakyness' by not including it in any of the change logs. Does the Devs no credit, both as game developers and people in general. If you want to correct a mistake, own up to it first, put you case, allow us to feedback then make the change.
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Good post Larili, just played the adv and lost 22XB and 51K because of this change which was sneaked in in a really underhand way. I am starting to think that there is little point in continuing with the game if they are going to do things like this. I am only 81K from reaching L50, at which point I was considering trying PvP but this is so devious I have no confidence in BB's ethical standards and may just retire at L50.
Thankyou korkin, I've been writing another post or three on this but I keep deleting them ;) I've already said I understand the reasoning behind the change and would have excepted it without much argument had it been done in a professional manner, and I'm sure many others would have too. However in the manner this was done, either by mistake , or by design, sets an uncomfortable precedent, and I think we the players must voice our disgust to dissuade the Devs from ever trying something so easily perceived to be so underhand, ever again. The xxl honeymoon and even the `star spring clean' does not take this `bad taste' away, for me I'm afraid, which saddens me more, as I would like to be singing the praises of the Devs for these developments. However, As we are still left without any official response/apology ( And I think it will take a really good one, especially to those that write and read the guides ) how can I trust that no more un announced, un justified `nerfing' will take place, to have confidence that further financial investment in the game is a good and worthy choice? Quite simply I can't, at the moment, I know its only a game, and morality is the last thing on everybody's mind as they send 1000's of recruits to die over and over again, but these are pixels. Players and Developers are real people and they should have a higher level of morality in there interaction than pixels. I leave it at that.
Sharpielein
13.11.15, 09:11
We all have different playing styles. Sometimes I'm not in the mood to do something large and like to relax and do something smallish and not have to over-check everything. Also playing what you are calling 'scrap low-level adventures' allow me to rebuild certain weapons faster if I'm low on them, I collect a whole lot of the adventure collectibles which I often use. I like many of the non-fairy tale adventures and intend to keep playing them.
And please remember there are people up-and-coming that deserve more than adventures (apparently) randomly changing on them. I think your point of view applies only to yourself.
Maybe you didn't understand my point?
I was saying: Keeping RB the way it was would not be game breaking in any form or fashion.
If anything, the change has made RB less appealing, although the adventure has already lost it's luster since the Level Cap increase.
High Level players hardly bother with this content, new players can't use it yet - and mid-level players find it challenging enough as it was.
Just take yourself, for example: Will you, after this change, play RB more or less than before?
Why waste time on "fixing" something that isn't broken, when there are still too many things which actually need fixing?
My entire point: BB doesn't have their priorities straight.
Will some blue one honor us with a comment ?
Or do we just have to discover by ourselves the changes in 'features' ?
We need to be fully informed about every changes are made on the game...it is imposible for us when we encounter changes and lose trops or resources because you BB not inform us of your many changes in game. Please take into consideration this post and try to comunicate efficient with us about your changes.
Ref RB change
Yes that would be great.
Now i lost 90cav and 75ES in Roaring Bull this morning, because i didnt know this changes.
ATHTHEMANIAC
13.11.15, 12:56
these changes we discovered weeks ago...not sure how any rb player does;nt yet know about them..even though they were done without notice by bb...just to increase troop loses for player and no other reason....
let's see, run BK for a chance of a dark castle drop so that I can increase pop max for the new troops, or run RB for a chance of a witch tower for the same reason with it's better granite drop for upgrading my building.
Bluesavanah
14.11.15, 09:43
It goes just like Kit says, they fixed the previous extra landing zone thing that slipped in few months ago. Also blocking is considered to be an exploit and not officially supported by BB in regular adventures. There is really no place to complain.
You should learn the meaning of exploit, there is a huge difference between exploit and unintended feature.
It goes just like Kit says, they fixed the previous extra landing zone thing that slipped in few months ago. Also blocking is considered to be an exploit and not officially supported by BB in regular adventures. There is really no place to complain.
You should understand that when they change their position on something what they said before no longer applies.
ATHTHEMANIAC
14.11.15, 12:56
i've done about 1400 rb ls maybe more....done 400 bk ls during event...and find that although its 900gran vs 1000gran....more gran drops per bk then does per rb...
also for 500ish r;s (this will be more now they nerfed it ) rb is only 25k xp vs 550ish r's for bk's 42k xp....in the 1400 rb's only had 3 wt;s drop ( 0.2 % a right joke)....so overall according to my personal stats bk now owns rb....
the bad thing about posting this is now BB will just go and alter all the drop rates of gran yet again without any notice...lol
topgearfan
14.11.15, 14:50
BK is a verry baad adventure. noone plays it, drops only logs, never granite.
plz dont nerf it
Mannerheim
14.11.15, 15:04
You should learn the meaning of exploit, there is a huge difference between exploit and unintended feature.
I know the difference. I have never contacted them related to this but exploit has been the exact word that support has used when I have saw someone paste messages from them on lost units in past years. It could be also debated that which one is it in this case cause people are doing something for their own benefit against original design. Same thing applies to several things in the past, parrot exploit, weak potion in tailor bosses, etc. :rolleyes:
Mannerheim
14.11.15, 15:09
You should understand that when they change their position on something what they said before no longer applies.
Care to quote or link me where or when has what changed (officially)? or even better, send a ticket and ask for latest official statement on the matter. Be sure to include screenshot of MoD description.
Let us know what they say.
ATHTHEMANIAC
14.11.15, 15:42
if bb have "fixed" eploits such as parrots/weak potions etc...and if blocking is an exploit then surely it is the biggest one in game and they have never fxed it...now is that because that are not skilled enough for the job or as blesavanah states its an uninteneded feature.....the real point here though not wether its an exploit or not but that fact the BB have changed an adventure widely play by a lot of player witht he intention not of fixing any exploit but to make players incur extra loses...
which adventure will be next in line for such a "fix"...i have already heard that they have also changed tikki island?...but need that to be confirmed....
Care to quote or link me where or when has what changed (officially)? or even better, send a ticket and ask for latest official statement on the matter. Be sure to include screenshot of MoD description.
Let us know what they say.
I'm sorry but I am not going to violate forum rules just because you tell me to.
Mannerheim
14.11.15, 18:16
I'm sorry but I am not going to violate forum rules just because you tell me to.
What rule is it breaking when I specifically said "official statement"? user specific support case pastes are a matter of their own.
edit: anyways this is getting off-topic and original point probably was that BB does hidden changes. This thread seems to be a mass merge of similar threads so the conversation seems a bit messy
ya its an exploit that's why they officially started supporting it in explorations. you have no idea what you're talking about. its either an exploit or not, not sometimes it is sometimes not.
also bouhou they changed RB i now have to kill 2 more camps, clearly its the end of the world..... yes a changelog would have been nice but thats it. use your brain and figure it out or wait for some1 to do the thinking for you and make a guide.
if you want to complain about something complain about the drop of followup adventures, cuz that's a real pain.
Bluesavanah
15.11.15, 19:36
Some official reply to this post might be nice, whether the camp positions changing was intended and very sorry people we'll post a changelog next time if it was intended.
BK is a verry baad adventure. noone plays it, drops only logs, never granite.
plz dont nerf it
You just had some bad luck. From a resource-cost vs. experience perspective it's one of the best, and I had a string of 1200 granite drops several times in a row. Random is random.
Regarding RB and the changes that have been made, have the changes gotten reflected in guides yet? I typically start with the settlersonlinewiki and was curious if anyone knows if that has been changed?
Thanks
Regarding RB and the changes that have been made, have the changes gotten reflected in guides yet? I typically start with the settlersonlinewiki and was curious if anyone knows if that has been changed?
Thanks
The guides on the wiki for RB are updated.
The guides on the wiki for RB are updated.
Many thanks
mmmm...got caught out, eventually able to take out 3rdWT first after defeating the camps on the left of WT 2 and 3 ( attacking WT and being intercepted)
then finishing off adventure like before,...just curious why they never explained the changes.....surprises can be nice :-)
no attention from BB on this matter :) maybe they forgot about us ?
now it's just wait and see if this change was intended or accidental, like the extra spots at WT3, in which case there will be a "fix" again...
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