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Info from the tsotesting posted to settlersonlinewiki.eu and osettlers.com has
Short: 5 or 30 or nothing
Medium: 10 or 15 or nothing
Long: 15 or 25 or nothing
Very Long: 20 or 35 or nothing
Prolongued: 25 or 45 or nothing
But I've got 10 on short. Has anybody got the 30 from short or has that changed to 10?
Thejollyone
16.12.15, 13:57
5 on short
15 on medium
25 long
my results so far
Info from the tsotesting posted to settlersonlinewiki.eu and osettlers.com has
Short: 5 or 30 or nothing
Medium: 10 or 15 or nothing
Long: 15 or 25 or nothing
Very Long: 20 or 35 or nothing
Prolongued: 25 or 45 or nothing
But I've got 10 on short. Has anybody got the 30 from short or has that changed to 10?
that was bug, as usually wiki have wrong info. they always put first info and they never change
topgearfan
16.12.15, 15:33
wondering who reported it..
From explorers in two days I got only 30 present. So Achievements "Explorers brought back 400 presents" is not posible to do in 20 days. I dont speek about 600 presents.
from explorers in two days I got only 30 present. So Achievements "Explorers brought back 400 presents" is not posible to do in 20 days. I dont speek about 600 presents.
this will be dependent on how often you are sending the explorers out and how many explorers you have. Of course the more time you have and the more explorers, the more you find, longer time players will have an advantage. But this game is designed to give long time players an advantage and give lower lvl players something to aim for.
Discussion moved to appropriate thread.
this will be dependent on how often you are sending the explorers out and how many explorers you have. Of course the more time you have and the more explorers, the more you find, longer time players will have an advantage. But this game is designed to give long time players an advantage and give lower lvl players something to aim for.
My level are 40. I have 3 explorers and they all time are on missions. but most time they come back without presents. medium, medium and extra long missions.
3 explorers is not very many.
I have 9 and have been in the game over 2 years, I know of people who have around 20.
3 explorers is not very many.
I have 9 and have been in the game over 2 years, I know of people who have around 20.
Everything is clear, want to play - go pay for gems. ;-)
Everything is clear, want to play - go pay for gems. ;-)
not really, I don't buy gems
Based on the returns seen on test , your explorers have returned the expected amount of presents, from now on you should expect to see about 540 by the end of the event if you send them all on very long searches. sending them on shorter ones could mean upto 80 less. that's for explorers from the tavern with no skills.
sending them on shorter ones could mean upto 80 less.
Actually shorter ones will bring more than long ones.
very long is 2x long, long is 2x medium and medium is 2x short so max present in one very long is 35 when on 2x 2x 2x short it is 80.
Unlike the collectibles, my explorers seem to be bringing back a reasonable amount - I would estimate 50% of the time they find presents and the amount is fitting for the type of search. Hard to believe that random usage seems to be in line with expectations but the collectibles are not. Scary actually...
3 explorers is not very many.
I have 9 and have been in the game over 2 years, I know of people who have around 20.
Most of us who's been playing for 3-4 years, have 20+ if buying all available explorers during events and such. Personally I have 21, and finished the 600 present achievement earlier today. New players aren't meant to be able to do everything, neither did we when we began.
Actually shorter ones will bring more than long ones.
very long is 2x long, long is 2x medium and medium is 2x short so max present in one very long is 35 when on 2x 2x 2x short it is 80.
This shows up the problem with the fact that events on test are abbreviated these days. It also shows up the problem of how the raw data is interpreted.
Assuming explorer actually find at the same rate as last year. I figure the following returns for a single unskilled tavern per day.
Short 5.375 presents
Medium 8.832
Long 8.845
Very long 8.9887
Prolonged 5.78365
The low number for shorts is calculated to allow for the fact that real life will prevent you from missing 1 chance a day to resend.
i sent all 20 my exp out on short to start with only 2-4 returned with presents so moved them upto med search same again poor return.. on long about half returned with something and on very long about 14 returned with something so will stick to long or v-long
lordloocan
16.12.15, 23:15
18 explorers, including 3 lucky explorers, 492 presents brought home so far. I did login between midnight and 1am on Day 1 to get an extra run in, but if want the presents 3 explorers might struggle.
Hmm.... Until now most of my explorers brought back presents on both long and very long searches. This morning they all came back with no presents at all!? That's weird...
Actually shorter ones will bring more than long ones.
very long is 2x long, long is 2x medium and medium is 2x short so max present in one very long is 35 when on 2x 2x 2x short it is 80.
I tried sending out on short first - sent 4 that all came back with no presents. And as I dont really need the products they bring home I send on longest search. At least I get some useful products then.
The short search is terrible, Good luck to anyone who's getting any joy from that. I sent 3 luckys on 4 continuous short searches and got 0 presents. The annoying thing is that u have to find 1 present on that search to proceed with a quest. Ive sent the 3 tavern scouts on that search now instead.
The short search is terrible, Good luck to anyone who's getting any joy from that. I sent 3 luckys on 4 continuous short searches and got 0 presents. The annoying thing is that u have to find 1 present on that search to proceed with a quest. Ive sent the 3 tavern scouts on that search now instead.
Keep at it. I'm getting a steady 20% on the short (meaning for every 10 I do, I get 2 with presents). I do a mix of short, medium, long and very long (because my guys are optimized that way) and there is always something coming in. It's very hit and miss but the pressies are out there.
I have 12 savage 1 exp 3 luckys and 3 normal and had the 600 gift achievement on 2nd day of event. due to work I use the very long search and seem to have about 80% of them bring back some amount of presents. Also all have the 3 shorten manuscripts in and alot about 7 savage and the luckys are fully skiled though.
Does anyone knows the drop chance for presents on different treasure searches? I feel that the drop rate on short search is lower then the longer searches.
Does anyone knows the drop chance for presents on different treasure searches? I feel that the drop rate on short search is lower then the longer searches.
it will be lower on a very long search around 18-21 come back with 22-38 presents each on short i am lucky if 3 come back with 5 each
Teardrop46
21.12.15, 22:50
i collect the gems every 7 days and use them to get explorers , i have 3 slow ones and 4 fast ones then the 2 lucky and another one. last 3 were from events ie: Christmas, Easter and st patricks day i think. I have managed to collect all 600 presents.
CoffeePowered
21.12.15, 22:51
did something happen to the Present % chances in the last 3 day? seems like they were lowered ninja like huh
This shows up the problem with the fact that events on test are abbreviated these days. It also shows up the problem of how the raw data is interpreted.
Assuming explorer actually find at the same rate as last year. I figure the following returns for a single unskilled tavern per day.
Short 5.375 presents
Medium 8.832
Long 8.845
Very long 8.9887
Prolonged 5.78365
The low number for shorts is calculated to allow for the fact that real life will prevent you from missing 1 chance a day to resend.
how did you make up those random numbers ? they are all wrong simply because your % chance is guessed , and i doubt you had time to really test sending a hundred or so explorers to get a medium % base chance
and the most funniest thing of all you got this from test server where remember the link i had from halloween with all %'s which was made by test server and how you totally tried to defame the results saying they were made up by me when you obv didnt read and see the link or if you did saying all test server results are wrong? i guess that means all of these are wrong aswell and your made up results are totally wrong.
"Think we can both agree the reward is lower. Pre Dorotheus calculation i'm afraid."
keep trying to act smart you will get there one day and be convincing
did something happen to the Present % chances in the last 3 day? seems like they were lowered ninja like huh
how did you make up those random numbers ? they are all wrong simply because your % chance is guessed , and i doubt you had time to really test sending a hundred or so explorers to get a medium % base chance
and the most funniest thing of all you got this from test server where remember the link i had from halloween with all %'s which was made by test server and how you totally tried to defame the results saying they were made up by me when you obv didnt read and see the link or if you did saying all test server results are wrong? i guess that means all of these are wrong aswell and your made up results are totally wrong.
"Think we can both agree the reward is lower. Pre Dorotheus calculation i'm afraid."
keep trying to act smart you will get there one day and be convincing
Did you fail to notice the disclaimer. As for your first point I'm on a different server.
there is no presents in short treasure hunt.i tried several times, because of the "searching for presents" quest. is it a feature, or a bug? ;) merry christmas
Areop-Enap
25.12.15, 20:42
there is no presents in short treasure hunt.i tried several times, because of the "searching for presents" quest. is it a feature, or a bug? ;) merry christmas
Took a few tries for me as well, but arrived in the fourth or fifth try for that quest. Keep at it! :)
Remaining two days and with the usual three explorers, all time long treasure search, I still missing 40 presents for Croacer's Treasury Achievement.
:-(
topgearfan
02.01.16, 13:28
wow you are doing really well then, my sandy and north accounts have just got the 400 presents with exactly same setup
wow you are doing really well then, my sandy and north accounts have just got the 400 presents with exactly same setup
good to know that someone still worse - joke
Remaining six hours, still missing 10 presents for Croacer's Treasury Achievement. And I pray that I might finish Christmas Achievement :-)))
The last long treasure search on all three explorers ended without presents. Even though it was published - "Treasure Search (Explorers)
All treasure searches started before the start of the removal phase have the chance to reward event currency."
So the lack of Presents are 10 pieces.
:-(
MorellaCarter
05.01.16, 08:38
Judging by the chats and my guild, none seem to be returning with presents.
TheVictorious
05.01.16, 08:53
Treasure Search (Explorers)
All treasure searches started before the start of the removal phase have the chance to reward event currency
This is fake, no one got presents of my guild members.
This is fake, no one got presents of my guild members.
I did call this yesterday in G1, its hardly surprising... I had my doubts based on how the event started.
The info about the missing presents from explorer searches started before the start of the removal phase was passed on and it's being looked into.
Thank you for your reports on the matter!
From dev blog
Treasure Search (Explorers)
All treasure searches started before the start of the removal phase have the chance to reward event currency.
Same here none of mine brought any home :(
And my explorers return widouth any presents and i sent before timer down so i guess no presents but this is it...
Same here no presents. Hopefully devs can act quickly as presents will be worthless soon
Same thing happened at Halloween so should've known really, but I trusted the dev diary!
Just about to check mine, but yesterday's were the worst bunch ever with only 1 or 2 out of the 25 bringing any in. Looks like they gave up a day early. :(
"Treasure Search (Explorers)
All treasure searches started before the start of the removal phase have the chance to reward event currency."
That was the message given. Duly, I was sure to send my explorers out on the longest searches I could before the event expired. This was based on the event countdown, not maintenance. In fact, most were sent around an hour before the countdown ended with only 2 sent around 7 minutes before that occured. However, out of 13 returned explorers, I have managed a grand total of 0. I'm not terribly hopeful for the remaining 3 and nobody else seems to have had any either. Real shame and rather unfair that they didn't bring any back if they returned after the event started, but were sent before.
Merged
ATHTHEMANIAC
06.01.16, 00:42
same here i sent out all my exp 2hrs before end of event all 18 come back with 0 presents....i would consider that i have either been lied to or robbed either way the result is same...lol
Acknowledged by BB as an issue:
http://forum.thesettlersonline.com/threads/32217-Presents-from-treasure-search-2015/page4
190 presents found is pathetic i had 20 explorers all upgraded sent on prolonged search 5 of them would of brought that amount back i averaged 400 presents on the very long search so would of got more then that on prolonged search
Looks like 10 * (number of explorers -1) presents given out. I got 80 from 9 explorers, would have expected >2x that if the prolonged searches had worked properly.
I know its not a big deal but if these things were done right (as per dev diary) people would have a lot less to complain about.
ATHTHEMANIAC
07.01.16, 18:40
so now i have my mail from bb with the bugged/stolen presents inside....
i have 18 exp all sent out on prolong search before event end (2hrs).....
i get sent 190 present which is a joke...during event that same search with that number of exp was bringing me back well over 350 presents...
so its not just the players who now exploits the bugs its bb by stealing presents from me and i suspect many other players....
clap clap bb another great "cough" end to another great "cough" event
I knew that many people would feel they didn't get enough.
I agree that the *potential* numbers would have been higher, during the event there were bad-luck-days were I got nothing. So I think if you look at it as an average instead of a maximum the number is more reasonable.
I'm glad they reimbursed at all and thanks BB for the consideration on this.
Bluesavanah
07.01.16, 21:12
so now i have my mail from bb with the bugged/stolen presents inside....
i have 18 exp all sent out on prolong search before event end (2hrs).....
i get sent 190 present which is a joke...during event that same search with that number of exp was bringing me back well over 350 presents...
so its not just the players who now exploits the bugs its bb by stealing presents from me and i suspect many other players....
clap clap bb another great "cough" end to another great "cough" event
By your own admission you have 18 explorers, so are you trying to imply you had a bad event because you might be a few presents short ? I honestly don't think so. Why not look at it in a positive manner you got some recompense and an apology. Those with few explorers it probably made a difference between getting something else from the merchant and not.
Thank you BB two admissions that something was wrong in the same event is pretty large.
lordloocan
07.01.16, 21:44
I also got 190 and also would have normally obtained about 300 to 4000 per day from my explorers. However, time to move on; at least BB did something to try to provide some sort of redress.
i personally had a very good event, got everythink I wanted. sold a bunch of presents and traded a bunch for grout
also. My exp brought back rather alot most days. the additinal 190 presents were very nice to get also. Ty BB
ATHTHEMANIAC
08.01.16, 04:53
was trying to imply just a bad end (maybe my feeling robbed was to much...lol_)....if u add the explorer fiasco to the gingerbread house fiasco can you in all honesty say the end of the event was great or even good?..
Based on averages about 100 presents shy of what they would have brought back. Given presents cost BB nothing to give out, would have thought giving the max per explorer would have been appropriate to make up for the inconvenience. Most businesses give compensation greater than the loss when they have to pay for the goods. Why does BB decide something free to give should be less than the loss? Shame really. Instead of trying to buy the presents I'd need for more stuff, I just gave mine away.
I really cant see the problem. How can you calculate with getting presents after the event was over ?
I did not. I started sending explorers on shorter searches when the event was about to end so most of mine were back before.
I cant really see how we can expect them to bring back presents after the event is over.
Most of us were happy to receive some extra presents. I think many did not even know what to do with them as they had already spent the rest of theirs and considered the event to be over.
topgearfan
08.01.16, 09:29
was trying to imply just a bad end (maybe my feeling robbed was to much...lol_)....if u add the explorer fiasco to the gingerbread house fiasco can you in all honesty say the end of the event was great or even good?..
those are small things and bb handled them better than expected. for me it was a great event. only really bad thing was the new price of grout.
topgearfan
08.01.16, 09:36
Looks like 10 * (number of explorers -1) presents given out. I got 80 from 9 explorers, would have expected >2x that if the prolonged searches had worked properly.
i had 240 with 21
those are small things and bb handled them better than expected. for me it was a great event. only really bad thing was the new price of grout.
well a few extra gingerbread houses would give you a lot more grout than a lower price would have given you (say 170 presents)
So kinda ironic how you adress the extra 100k from a bugged gingerbread house as a small issue while the extra grout you feel you missed out on- which would amount to less than 100k gold worth of grout is a big issue
topgearfan
09.01.16, 00:26
170? Last year the price was 60. A six with one zero. For 170 you could have bought grout from TO this event. Average present price was about 120 coins. That means if you bought grout from Event Shop once you lost 17k coins! Every 1200 grout you bought from Event Shop cost you 1 Gingerbread house extra!
I bought 200k grout from last years event so I never have to buy any again. I was thinking of people who actually need to buy grout from events. Sorry for not making it clear.
The houses affect other players very little and the effect is positive. There are more houses on the market to buy.
Keep it up guys, I'm finding the flawed axioms highly amusing.
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