[Guide] Rough Guide for MG, MMA & Vet

[chaos51]

These are compelation guides combining the best attacks from different authors..........:cool:

Links :cool:

DB skills rework DB-with-Skills (http://forum.thesettlersonline.com/threads/34966-Rework-.....DB-with-Skills)

RB with Skills RB-with-skills (http://forum.thesettlersonline.com/threads/34886-RB-Anslem-amp-Nusala-with-skills-Quick-loot-....low-losses-avg-387R?p=331504#post331504)

BK skills rework X 3 BK skills rework X 3 (http://forum.thesettlersonline.com/threads/35019-Rework.....3-X-Fast-BK-s-with-skills)

[chaos51]

This is a compelation of polymers & wiki's guide,
Without the time wasting blocks, avg time being 1.5hrs from start to finish

The other option for this guide is to make this adv a proper co-op between 3 players

NB: I haven't bothered with the pic as both guides use the same camp identification



Valiant Little Tailor

C1: Vet 120R 1E 129K alt MG 170R 100K Alt Anslem 67R 83K

C2: MMA 82R 134C 4K Alt Nusala 78R 87C

C3: MG 160R 30B 80K alt G 38B suicide G 68B suicide
MG 142R 1E 127K Alt Vet 142R 1E 83K

C4: MG 10R 200B 60K alt MG 181R 24M 1E 64K

C5: MG 170R 100K alt Vet 140R 26M 1E 83K

C6: MG 10R 30M 80S 150K alt MG 29M 87S 1E 153K Alt MMA 200B (suicide) Anslem 64M 86K

C7: MG 200R 10S 60K alt MG 194R 11S 1E 64K

C8: MG 147R 1E 122K alt MG 150R 120K

C9: G 100B suicide
MG 150B 120K alt MG 140R 130K

C10: MG 160R 20M 90K alt Vet 130M 120K Alt Anslem 89R 61K

C11: G 198B suicide alt G 200B suicide MG 170R 10M 1E 89K
MG 150R 23M 1E 96K

C12: MG 136M 1E 133K alt MG 90R 120M 1E 59K

C13: MG 115R 40M 115K alt MG 150R 10M 1E 109K

C14: MG 10R 150M 110K alt MG 160R 110M

C15: MG 210R 10M 50K alt Vet 60R 55M 135K Alt Anslem 45R 105K

C16: MG 270B alt Vet 190B 60K

C17: Vet 80B 170LB suicide Alt Nusala 165B
MG 140R 15S 115K Alt MG 190R 80K

C18: MG 150R 120K alt MG 129R 1E 38C 102K

C19: G 40B 160LB suicide G 200LB suicide MG 80R 190C
MMA 140R 80C

C20: MG 170R 20M 1E 79XB alt Vet 113M 1E 136XB

C21: G 170B suicide
MG 270C Alt MMA 220C

C22: G 70B suicide
MG 150R 120K

C23: MG 80R 100B 90K

C24: G 200LB suicide alt Drac 200LB
Vet 138M 112K Alt MG 180R 90K

C25: G 200B suicide Alt Anslem 150R + Vargus 180R
MMA 220LB suicide
Vet 118R 132K Alt MG 100R 170K Alt MG 20R 250K
alt G 200B suicide G 200LB suicide MG 210R 60K

Troops Required:[/B] 2200R 900M 113S 220C 1400B 750LB 136XB 10E 170K (although for speed add more K's to save waiting for gens to return)
Alt with champions 2400R 510M 580LB 11S 1600B 220C 136XB 10E 170K

Average Losses: 2100R 864M 100S 1336B 750LB Alt avg losses 2350R 580LB 11S 1450B 500M

IF your gens are all fully loaded with JOG this will save you 10mins in total adv time......More importantly if your Ls gens have JOG moving to the other side of the map, then their atk will only take 5mins!!

ADDED MG & Nusala options to cover 1up & horseshoes

[Playerslights]

i love your guide chaos51

[Fafarona]

With more suicide Bowmans attacks, you can save lot of M units.
Every Suicide counts, even if the General is not full with units, so I use (for example) 200B, then 90B attacks to reduce power of enemy camps.
This guide cost lot of time in the Barracks to produce needed units, please use this tool : osettlers.com/en/toolbox/cost-army
864M which is 19h and 12min for Barracks lvl 6 without the Buffs, but on the other hand, you can produce for the same amount of time 1000R and 1000B instead of Ms.

[DaisyDuke]

I usually use corona guides for all FT Adv - never a failed block :)

[Fafarona]

Im Fafarona which is similar to Corona only if you say it loud.
Big honor to Corona as we need to respect his work, he done so much for us, but 25.11.2014, now is 2016, so its up to you to improve his work.
Corona used Veteran General suicide (1G down) + 502 Recruits to kill Camp 6 which is 4h and 11 min for Barracks lvl 6 + additional time to kill camp 5 with 150R.
What I made, its improved version of Wiki gude with S (as your suggestion) for camp 6, I use block camp 5 : prnt.sc/cff80t
40S+100ES+60Cav = 160 seconds minimum as MG need 110 seconds for kill and there is plenty time for MGs walk to the camp 6.
Now you know me as well, gl mate.

[chaos51]

Clearly you haven't read the time wasting blocks comment ...so I've enlarged it for you :)

[chaos51]

avg losses 600R 60B 40M

Camp 1: MMA 50R 170E
Camp 2: MG 137R 133K
http://thesettlersonlinewiki.com/uploads/937278072RB%201.jpg
1st Block

Send all gens to atk witch tower

Gen A: Std Gen 60S 120E 20LB
Gen B: Std Gen 40S 160C

Send Gen C when Gen B reaches marked spot
Gen C: MMA 160R 40E 20K
http://thesettlersonlinewiki.com/uploads/1482189030RB2.png
Camp 6: MMA 1R ……..
(+best spot for lootspoters as well as to reduce losses )
MMA 112R 108C

2nd Block

Gen A: Std Gen 127C 73E
Gen B: Std Gen 20E 180C

Send Gen C to witch tower when Gen B reaches marked spot

Gen C: MMA 80R 80B 20LB 40K
http://thesettlersonlinewiki.com/uploads/2120054669RB%203.png
3rd Block

Gen A: Std Gen 40R 60E 100C (100secs min)
Gen B: MMA 120R 42M 58K (60secs)

NB when sending gens standard rule applies of waiting till the end of drumbeats!
Troop requirements

640R 80B 120S 170E 40LB 42M 133K 317C

2 X MMA 1 X MG 2 x Tav Gen

We've been using this guide since early Jan with no problems So, enjoy .....

[chaos51]

Fast Version ( 25-35mins depending how hard you concentrate...lol )

NB this is using killste's BK guide setups

Black Knights with blocks ……..For 1 x MOD + 1 BHG + 2 x MG + 2 x MMA

from LZ first atk

A: BLOCKING MOD general: 20M 40S 140C
B: BLOCKING BHG general: 1R 97E (props to Alex for this blocking gen setup)

MMA: 105R 5S 2E 108K

Second Camp atk

A: BLOCKING BHG general: 1R 97E

MMA: 105R 5S 2E 108K

First Castle atk

A: BLOCKING MOD general: 1R 6M 1S 190C

MMA: 113R 2M 1S 1E 103K

Third Bandit ldr camp

MMA: 105R 5S 2E 108K

Camp 10

MG: 56R 84C 130XB

Camp 12

MG: 64R 1S 1E 159C 45K

Camp 15:

MMA +1R (atk with drac +1r if 10cavs left)

MMA: 90C no losses

Camp 16:

MG: 83R 1S 1E 114C 71K

Camp 14:

A: BLOCKING MOD general: 54E 140C

Camp 18: Dark Castle

MMA: 86R 2M 1S 1E 130K

[chaos51]

Preloading your gens before sending, you should have this adv finished with 30mins even with tav gens (using bronze horseshoes min)

BN for MG, Nusala & 2 x MOD alt 2 x std gen with (jog & Nav crash course)

Camp 1& 2: Nusala 165R atk camp 2 nusala will kill both camps

Block 1

Camp 5: MOD 20S 140C 40B alt Gen 60E 100C
Camp 4: MOD 60M 100E alt Gen 120E 60C (send to camp 6)

Camp 6: Nusala 110R 35C 20K

Block 2

Camp 10: MOD 20R 140C 40LB alt Gen 103E 1C
Camp 11: MOD 40M 60S 80C alt Gen 65E 135C

Camp 12: Nusala 120R 5E 40K

Block 3

Camp 8: MOD 40M 60S 80C Alt Gen 100E 20C

Camp 9: Nusala 1R
MG 130R 1S 1E 34C 75XB 29K alt 98R 1E 171XB


every so often the blocking gen for camp 10 will come back with a false loss

if that happens just reset :-)

All blocks I use the 30 sec max kill config .......



Troops Rq'd 400R 60M 70S 40B 40LB 276C 101E 96K 75XB

Avg losses 387R



http://thesettlersonlinewiki.com/uploads/1280157941BN.jpg

http://thesettlersonlinewiki.com/uploads/1146504524BN G1.jpg

http://thesettlersonlinewiki.com/uploads/1050619859BN G1 Atk.png

http://thesettlersonlinewiki.com/uploads/698093162BN G2.jpg

http://thesettlersonlinewiki.com/uploads/1806862092BN G2 Atk.jpg

http://thesettlersonlinewiki.com/uploads/490567014BN G3.jpg

[CDss008]

first sector needs timing, send mma when fast gen 2 reaches marker
http://imgur.com/a/iNjLx imgur.com/a/iNjLx (http://imgur.com/a/iNjLx)
Alex

[chaos51]

first sector needs timing, send mma when fast gen 2 reaches marker
http://imgur.com/a/iNjLx imgur.com/a/iNjLx (http://imgur.com/a/iNjLx)
Alex

Thx Alex on the money as always :))

[chaos51]

Changed Loadout for Skills JOG & Juggernaught :cool:

Details The main reason for the change is to take full advantage of JOG as the Atk walks are painfully long EG: atking the WT from G4 the walks vary from 12mins to 20mins ....atking from G5 is a max 1min handy if you're waiting on your lootspots to arrive ......unless you like waiting 15min for the ls gen to arrive then another 20+mins for your FA ....the other is the effect of Juggernaught on the atking gens EG: the MMA's do far more damage

http://thesettlersonlinewiki.com/uploads/992802897DB QL Map.jpg

Starting from G1
Camp1: Nusala: 70R 1S 94C
http://thesettlersonlinewiki.com/uploads/2007298836DB Ql G1.jpg

Block using positions A & B

Camp 2: MOD: 20R 20M 160C Alt Tav Gen 26S 174C
Camp 3: Nusala: 75R 85S 5K

http://thesettlersonlinewiki.com/uploads/1603006507DB QL G2.jpg

Camp 4: Nusala: 90R 75K

http://thesettlersonlinewiki.com/uploads/944254918DB QL G2 Atk.jpg

Block (send gen B when gen A reaches spot marked)

Camp 5: MOD: 70R 20S 110C Alt Tav Gen 50S 143C
Camp 6: Nusala: 115R 25M 25S

http://thesettlersonlinewiki.com/uploads/1308718455DB G3 .jpg

Camp 7: Nusala: 85R 1S 79C

http://thesettlersonlinewiki.com/uploads/632335527DB QL G3 atk.jpg

Block
Camp 8: MOD: 40R 140C 20XB Alt Tav Gen 31E 168C
Camp 9: Nusala: 100R 25S 40E

http://thesettlersonlinewiki.com/uploads/564740811DB QL 4.jpg

Camp 10: Nusala: 94R 1S 70C
Camp 11: Nusala: 65R 50M 5S 45K
Camp 12: Nusala: 75R 25M 60S 5K

Optional:

Camp 13: Send (1) Any Gen 200B (suicide) then MMA 100R 120XB ALT MG46R 1E 223XB

G5
http://thesettlersonlinewiki.com/uploads/1105220732DB Ql G5.jpg

Witch tower
inv lootspotters :)

Suicides
6 x MMA +1R +Juggernaught skill fully loaded
1 x Nusala +1R +Juggernaught skill fully loaded

if less than 40 Dancing dervish left then you can finish with ROA (if not send last Nusala with 1r)

to finish normally then send

Nusala: 1R
Anslem 140R
MG: 120R 150K

Troops RQ'd 800R 85M 160C 85S 40E 20XB 160K

Avg losses when using ROA 504R
without ROA 604R 130M 135C ALT 700R Using G5 770R 200B avg time 1HR 5mins

Gens RQ'd Nusala x 2 (or 1 x Nusala with 1 UP) MMA x 6 (or 3 X MMA with 1 UP) 1 X MoD 1 X Anslem 1 X MG

[Thejollyone]

total troops to send? total losses?

[EzraPile]

Spectacles Required Obviously - Great Guide and fast Chaos, love it & thanks . ;o)

[EzraPile]

Always use this guide and have forwarded chaos, was always a pleasure being in the guild with you and THIS is the definite "Quick" VLT guide without all the hassle.