View Full Version : Very long adventure search results
I cant find a tread on this, so I start new. Some of this might be in another tread, if so feel free to merge it.
My problem is that I feel BB is spamming me with certain adventures. Some of them I never ever do, others I do quite often, but they fill up my star anyway. The new very long adventure search does not seem to be worth the extra time and resources, as it is them same advs I am spammed with as in the long adventure search.
I can divide the adventures I have too many of in 2 stacks.
Group 1
If I was to do these, something would have to change. On that list is : Wild Mary, VtV, Arctic explosion, and some of the Co-ops (4 players)
I dont ever do them. Loot is not worth the trouble and it is hard to find 4 players to do a co-op. The loot in all Co-ops is really not worth the trouble.
Group 2
I do these quite often, but I find them so often that they are crowding my star anyway.
On that list I find GP SoTV, SE, DB, BK and rest of co-ops ( BR, Siege - 2 players or 3 player)
This is a quick browse of advs in my star, not complete but it gives an impression of what it is like
24 GP, 16 LS, 23 WM, 28 AE, 12 SR, 16 TR, 22 RTR, 20SE, 18 SoTV, 18 Siege, 31 TR 26 VtV, 35 WhirlW
So some advs are very common to get from explorers - it feels like being spammed. Worst of all is whirlwind - after new long adventure search was made possible they bring back mainly Whirlwind, SE BK or Riches of the mountain. Not that I am short of any of these even without the very long adventure search, so I am starting to doubt if it is worth the extra time and resources.
I dont have much to use my mfs on only longer. Only adv worth using them on is VLT and to get traitors for GQ as we get it nearly every 2nd quest
In short my wish list when it comes to advs is.
So please let us stack advs in stars so we dont have to browse through 20- 40 of the same advs to find what we are looking for.
Let it be possible to delete or convert advs into mf
Adjust the drop-rates so you don't spam us.
Re- adjust the loots in some of the advs you nerfed- so they are once again worth doing.
Rethink the drop in the new very long adventure search.
Give us some advs we want to do, to get from mf- also after we get past level 50
Maybe rethink what we can get in shop for mf. That would be nice. I would love to be able to get Alibaba and the woodcutters for mf. Yes I can get it from GC - but I would have to collect coins for 6 month to have enough for one adventure.
It is possible to delete adv now just click on the red x in the top right corner of the adv. I like the idea of a exchange for map frags but it would make the mysterious adv box a no loose so could foresee say only 1 map frag in exchange for an adv. it would be nice to see an update maybe to the mystery adv box and maybe add young woodcutter to it.
Let it be possible to delete or convert advs into mf
You already can delete adv's you don't want to keep, press the red x on the adv. I delete any I don't want to keep regularly, keeps star menu managable.
The main problem with adv searches is the percentages. On the new very long search the young woodcutter is supposedly the highest percentage, this is way off as you get nothing but co-ops , rb's, se's, riches scenario etc. How about BB post the real percentages so we know before we waste time doing these searches!
I gave up keeping track of explorer adventures returns years ago due to the fact that it's impossible for anyone to maintain a up to date list.
I will be only happy to start writing down from today and the next 1-- 2 weeks. I am getting sick of receiving Whirlwind. Today 8 came back - and I got 1 Riches of the mountain, 2 storm recovery, 1 BK one whirlwind and one DB. 2 had map fragments.
O pretty useless. I dont have grout to waste on Storm-recovery and have plenty of the others already.
Bluesavanah
10.01.16, 21:46
Is it a bug that Lakeside Treasure is returned on very long adventure search, this is a 4 skull adventure and I feel it has no place on the hardest search.
That surprises me and if it's the case there must be something wrong. I find those pretty often but only on short or medium, I don't think I've ever seen it on a long. You are right, it would not belong in the results of a long search.
Areop-Enap
11.01.16, 04:42
Something does seem strange.
My explorer just returned from a Long Adventure Search with Bandit Nest. Same rating as Lakeside. It's something I would expect from/have found in Small & Medium Searches but not in Long Searches...
Haha, Its not a bug! You will find more useless junk like Arctic Explosion and Whirlwind too. Its just BB's way to make sure you don't progress thru the game quickly. Whats strange is that these adv are supposedly way lower percentage than the sought after woodcutter but you will find more of them.
I would put the woodcutter at around 1% chance. Secluded Experiments is a 2% chance and you will get way more of them than woodcutters.
I wrote about this in another tread and I have started to record all I find. Would be nice if more did this.
I find lots of whirlwind and AE, have not found BN yet though.
Bluesavanah
11.01.16, 11:57
Haha, Its not a bug! You will find more useless junk like Arctic Explosion and Whirlwind too. Its just BB's way to make sure you don't progress thru the game quickly. Whats strange is that these adv are supposedly way lower percentage than the sought after woodcutter but you will find more of them.
I would put the woodcutter at around 1% chance. Secluded Experiments is a 2% chance and you will get way more of them than woodcutters.
Yes I've just found some info on wiki, seriously BB take Lakeside Treasure, Arctic Explosion and Whirlwind out of very long adventure search and replace them with Map fragments I honestly don't need any more of this junk your just cluttering up the server.
Yes it feels like spam when you get all those advs, you are never going to do, no matter what. That is why I suggested in the other tread that you should be able to convert unwanted advs into map fragments.
TheVictorious
12.01.16, 15:00
Yes I'm getting low quality adventures as well, Lakeside Treasure, Lost Skull, DP and so one in very long ! and a lot of rubbish co-op unplayable like Whirlwind.
I have not see good adv from 1 month or so.
Please be careful to keep your language PEGI-7.
I do a combination of short, medium and long adventure searches each day - so I'm never really sure which explorer brought back which adventure.
I am only doing long at the moment- and I dont really know what kind of explorer brings what back - but I write all down at the moment - here is result so far
http://prntscr.com/9pc1gb
Very long adventure search
Whirlwind 9 11,25%
SE 5 6,25%
DB 5 6,25%
riches of M 2 2,50%
Storm R. 6 7,50%
BK 5 6,25 %
AE 4 5,00 %
woodcutter 6 7,50%
VLT 6 7,50 %
lakeside 4 5,00%
RB 4 5,00%
map frag. 24 30,00%
a total of 80 searches
This is my statistics so far - and a picture is starting to form. It looks as whirlwind has the highest drop rate- and the rest has a drop rate half as big.
They should remove whirlwind and lakeside from the very long search. Have no clue what it is doing. Would prefer to get mf. all in all I dont think I will go on using this search. It is a very expensive way to get the 2- 3 of the adventures on the list I am actually interested in.
I can get all the rest from other searches. only 2 I can only get on very long seach,-(woodcutter and storm recovery), and the storm recovery has only one use - try and sell in TO.
TheVictorious
13.01.16, 21:39
Lately I only get Whirlwind, seriously only this in 80% search, another like DB or RB or another co-ops, no vlt, no nords, nothing else.
Whirlwind comes back an absurd number of times. It's quite annoying.
TheVictorious
14.01.16, 21:45
I give up with search adventures, seriously 13 whirlwind in 2 weeks, the rest of searches was MF and another Co-Op and 1 RB 1 DB.
this is stupid.
Sharpielein
15.01.16, 12:09
Yeah, they nerfed the loot of coop adventures, made them completely unattractive --- then make them the most common drop.
Go figure. I'd prefer Map Fragnets.
Yeah, they nerfed the loot of coop adventures, made them completely unattractive --- then make them the most common drop.
Go figure. I'd prefer Map Fragnets.
Agreed
hollanderdanny
18.01.16, 11:34
How about a mechanic in the provision house or a different building:
pay / use 2 or 3 adventures + resources = outcome a random new adventure
it shouldbn't be too difficult for a dev to go over the loottables for the searches and make sure that only level appropriate adventures are in the various tables and mabye review the current lot and vary em a bit seeing that some are also in shop now for mf etc (oh and yea- coops thats a completely different disussion- let a dev look at the loottables nd make em more interesting for players to play- either by adjusting dropchances or adjusting the loots- kinda sad to see a whole class of adventures disappearing from regular gameplay due to nerfing of loots without thought)
It should be Nords and not Lakeside treasure on the very long adventure search.
topgearfan
19.01.16, 09:12
It should be Nords2 and not Lakeside treasure on the very long adventure search.
fyp :D
How about selling your un-wanted adventures/map frags for guild coins in the TO and then using them to buy the wood cutter adventure from the shop?
As for BK being completed faster than the time need to cook troops maybe buff your barracks complete troops with gems or just play at the pace the game allows?
Surely this is how the game is meant to be played?
Sharpielein
19.01.16, 11:22
How about selling your un-wanted adventures/map frags for guild coins in the TO and then using them to buy the wood cutter adventure from the shop?
If lucky, I can get 1 gc for a Lakeside Treasure or WW, because nobody plays these anymore.
So, it's only 4500 trades for a single Ali Baba, which, given the assumption I can manage to find 2 people who have more excess guild coins than scrap adventures (rare find) will only take 6 years.
No thanks - I'll pass ...
As for BK being completed faster than the time need to cook troops maybe buff your barracks complete troops with gems or just play at the pace the game allows? Surely this is how the game is meant to be played?
Who knows what is "meant"? And as for buying troops with gems - no thanks, in that case I'd rather buy buildings and sell them to purchase lootspots in Fairytales, that's much better bang for the buck.
How about selling your un-wanted adventures/map frags for guild coins in the TO and then using them to buy the wood cutter adventure from the shop?
As for BK being completed faster than the time need to cook troops maybe buff your barracks complete troops with gems or just play at the pace the game allows?
Surely this is how the game is meant to be played?
No one in thier right mine wants to do more than one arctic explosion. I dont think you will have much luck selling those. Same goes for whirlwind, and lakeside. I dont want to use coins to be able to sell all those advs I have that I am never going to use, so selling in TO is really not an option.
How about a mechanic in the provision house or a different building:
pay / use 2 or 3 adventures + resources = outcome a random new adventure
Nice Idea :)
Thejollyone
19.01.16, 16:29
Its time the whole adventure thing was re-vamped imo. Many suggestions have already been put forward:
1. Allow us to vote on those really terrible ones we never do - Wild Mary is a prime example; I doubt 80% of this server have ever done it more than 2 or 3 times (and majority ppl who only ever done it once was for acheivements).
2. We have asked for it many times already, let us have a map recycler.
3. Re-think the loot rewards on these rubbish adventures - give a good reason to play them
Any one of the above would be better than spamming the same adventures over and over again.
done with searches and with doing statistics.
This is my resulsts :
http://prntscr.com/9zocsu
I would still like an answer from BB
How did you come up with what advs is found in very long searches ??
Why did you bother to make them at all - why not put woodcutter in the long searches.
Only adv I can use of what I find besides woodcutter is VLT,- and that is about the only adventure I will bother to use my map fragments on. It is nice to have some use for them, I dont really have that now.
What I really dont get, and I think most players will agree, is why do you spam us with whirlwind. It is also found in more than one of the other searches, and very few bother to ever do it.
I can now add another adv to crowd my star. I have never done it and my guess is that I will do it once for a quest and for the achievement. That is Storm Recovery.
The loot sucks when you compare it to what is needed to do it. Gunpowder, grout and beans. The number needed makes the loot a joke. If anyone wants to try please make me an offer - I have 23 of then in star now.
Another fine example of adventures that someone use time an effort making, but no one is using time or effort doing. The list grows longer and longer
I do think people used to do the co-ops before they where over nerfed,- but now they are just spam.
A few years ago I did a comparison of the cost of sending out the Explorer on adventure searches and buying them in trade, the result was trade was the far cheaper option except for Nords. Little has changed since then with the only exception's being for those Adventures which are no longer available from the merchant and Nords where the trade price now makes it more cost effective to send a explorer out.
I've also notice a high return of mf to adventures now too, 4 quick explorers out and all 4 brought mf back 7 times in a row.......please sort the percentages out
I can confirm that the finds reported above are as intended and DB, BK, SE, RB, LT, Whirlwind, VLT, Riches of the mountain, AE, Woodcutter, SR and MF are part of the intended loot for very long adventure searches.
Your feedback has also been passed on to the Dev Team.
The thread was moved to General Discussions.
Thejollyone
10.02.16, 16:02
Your feedback has also been passed on to the Dev Team.
This is good, thank you.
They've been working on good things lately, I hope this is going to be part of the next batch of exciting things to come :)
Sir_Galavant
11.02.16, 15:05
Its time the whole adventure thing was re-vamped imo. Many suggestions have already been put forward:
1. Allow us to vote on those really terrible ones we never do - Wild Mary is a prime example; I doubt 80% of this server have ever done it more than 2 or 3 times (and majority ppl who only ever done it once was for acheivements).
2. We have asked for it many times already, let us have a map recycler.
3. Re-think the loot rewards on these rubbish adventures - give a good reason to play them
Any one of the above would be better than spamming the same adventures over and over again.
+1^
treeve1984
22.02.16, 12:51
It is just part of the gamble of sending them out, normally i am only after a few different adv but gets loads i dont want i have well over 1000 advs in star which is a pain.
The stacking needs to be expanded to cover adv as well i dont see why they cant do it????
Did BB something changed at the very long adventure search.
Since 1 week i get 70% of my searches map fragments, before that was more like 10-20%.
And the other searches brings rubbish adventures like Lakesides, and Arctic Explosion.
No any Woodcutters found since a week.
I heard from other guildmembers the same
Orca45
Merged
There is 2 other treads about the very long search. I would personally prefer to get 70% map fragments and for the rest get useful adventures and have whirlwind BK and lakeside removed from the search. I was sure at first that the droprate was much lover for woodcutter, but it is around 8%. That is still not very high, but you have to do a big number of searches before you get the whole picture.
I have no use for any more of BK, Lakeside, RM, AE DB, RB or SR. I already have plenty - more than I am ever going to need. Of those all but SR can be found in other searches, so if I needed them I would do those.
Map fragments is better than being spammed with adventures and scenarios you never do. AE, RM and SR are adventures that are on the do once and then why bother ever doing them again. Lakeside and whirlwind are hard to do very often, because the loot is crabby and it is hard to find someone who wants to do it with you, it is very strange that BB chose to have them drop more than any other adventures. I dont get why they think spamming us with them will make us do them.
I do DB, and RB, but they can be found in the long search.
Every time they introduce new adventures into a search the known numbers for return results become obsolete.
I dont think they changed anything for the very long search- but maybe I am missing something
Bluesavanah
27.02.16, 00:22
Can't say anything has changed recently, best day recently I got 5 wood cutters from 19 searches, other days I get 0, mostly I get 1 or 2 per day. Still averaging about 8-10% return overall.
TabulaRasa
28.02.16, 22:59
In my opinion, using the adv search for more than 8 week, the amount of woodcutter is less than 5%... i have 17 explorers that would bring me 2 woodcutters per search session, and it is less than 1... very bad...
hope they introduce woodcutter for beans or map fragments :)
In my opinion, using the adv search for more than 8 week, the amount of woodcutter is less than 5%... i have 17 explorers that would bring me 2 woodcutters per search session, and it is less than 1... very bad...
hope they introduce woodcutter for beans or map fragments :)
Look above and find my statistics. I did around 200 searches and my droprate was around 8%. But I agree it is too low, as it is all I hope to find by this search.
TabulaRasa
29.02.16, 23:29
Look above and find my statistics. I did around 200 searches and my droprate was around 8%. But I agree it is too low, as it is all I hope to find by this search.
seen that... i do not write think down but i am very sure my drop rate is much lower but i got much storm recovery i do not use to play :)
Jackpot..
http://fs5.directupload.net/images/160328/qcig9etg.png
LMAO, seems you've only skilled them to drink brew and eat sausages :)
hi BB,
I find it a bit annoying to get Lakeside dropping 5.4% from extra long adv searches.
It's an easy co-op adv and NOT what any high level players are searching for - compare with other possible adventures from table.
Don't add to 'Storm Recovery' as none of of like that either :(
Merged
I only send for extra long adventure searches nowadays.
I find it a bit annoying (as level 60+) to get Lakeside (2P easy co-op) dropping 5.4% of time :(
lordloocan
08.09.16, 10:37
Over the last few days I have tried recording what my explorers find. The most notable thing is that those explorers with no skills whatsoever find far more woodcutters than those with books on them. Fluke? Don't know but may be worth looking at this.
very long searches should only give farytales and aladin, nothing else .... we can do other searches if we want somethng else
very long searches should only give farytales and aladin, nothing else .... we can do other searches if we want somethng else
I agree that the distribution should be looked at but I don't agree it should be only fairy tales / Aladdin. There should always be a 'joke' prize of some kind (map fragments) in my opinion - it keeps the effort a little more interesting. Always getting a good reward gets boring (as strange as that might seem).
TheVictorious
12.09.16, 05:19
very long searches should only give farytales and aladin, nothing else .... we can do other searches if we want somethng else
+1000 x I agree, FT adventures start from lvl 42 and very long start from lvl 52 or 56 not sure , but make no sense to get so low stupid adventures from very long searches, its seriously time to change it to better drop, at least just remove those low level green things.
Can you add Ali Baba the young wood cuter in adventure shop for map fragments, like The Valiant little taylor, is the first adventure in series ... at least if exporers don't find it we can get it for map fragments.
ty for consideration
Areop-Enap
17.09.16, 00:27
Can you add Ali Baba the young wood cuter in adventure shop for map fragments, like The Valiant little taylor, is the first adventure in series ... at least if exporers don't find it we can get it for map fragments.
ty for consideration
Yes, pease. I wouldn't mind this to happen if BB have plans to change the merchant's adventures.
(Btw I don't mind lakeside, unlike most here I like that adventure, and much preferred over the streak of whirlwind adventures my explorers keep bringing back at the moment. :P)
jason_shotter
17.09.16, 10:08
i mainly find rotm storm recovery and artctic explosion all the time too
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