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Peccatora
15.03.16, 21:59
Like I already said during Halloween I really think it’s a bad idea to include destroying something on other islands into achievements. There are lots of people just randomly destroying those party crasher camps and messing up swaps you might have arranged already. Causes a lot of discussions and anger.

Ever since that kind of achievements was introduced I had at least one incident because some ppl think they need to complete the achievement on the first day or they just don’t know it better because nobody taught them any manners. And no, I don’t have hundreds of names on my friendslist.

Therefore I’d really be grateful if those achievements got either removed or people needing some kind of invite to be able to destroy my golem, party crashers or whatever. (And because my guild mates are so scared: I promise I won’t hunt anyone with (non-stick) frying pans if they disagree with me :p)

Szaryx
15.03.16, 22:11
I strongly disagree with you Miss Peccatora.

I think that the main problem of yours is concept of swaping.

Because at the moment most of the foolish people swaps their and cause chaos and problems. What if you were normaly playing and every time your camp is respawned you said on guild chat if someone could do it. And if you really needed it then you could ask on guild chat(in some cases other channels and maybe meet new friends) and someone would answer to you "My camp will espawn in 2 minutes.".


Due to this swaping nature most of the players pair up and change this whole concept of participating in events together and finding new friends into anger and sadness. Remember that those events are constructed so you produce more camps than people need to complete achievments.

So I just recommend you making yourself some tea(and cake if you have one), turn some nice music, relax and just chill, if you don't kill crashers today you may still do it tomorrow.

PS. I also don't like delayed swaped adventures(because it's creation of devil).

Xibor
15.03.16, 22:33
I strongly disagree with you Miss Peccatora.

And I'm sorry, but I disagree with you.

I've already had random "friends" scanning my island looking for party crashers (fortunately I have already gotten mine) and I know others that have had theirs taken out without any communication. I think some people are loading up on the components and then going through everyone on their friends list and taking whatever action they see fit.

My wife and I will naturally be doing each other's islands for the party crashers and we don't appreciate people not even asking us if it's ok. Therefore, our friends list is now much much shorter.

During Halloween both players got an adventure tick if you destroyed someone's golem. Unfortunately this event doesn't work that way - and I think it should. Then there would be no conflicts.

Dorotheus
15.03.16, 23:25
Far as I'm concerned it's not just a reportable offence but possibly a criminal act depending on the laws of your country.

Szaryx
15.03.16, 23:53
Far as I'm concerned it's not just a reportable offence but possibly a criminal act depending on the laws of your country.

I am not student of law, but as far as I know it's not a criminal act in United Kingdom.

neilegend
16.03.16, 01:05
durign halloween if a non guild 'friend came in and hit my golem without communicating - they got unfriended as well as a mail tellign them why .
we are doing the truce on each others crashers in guild to help each other and as always it is communication that is the key to it all .

fishybreath
16.03.16, 09:39
Where exactly is the criminal offence ?

topgearfan
16.03.16, 10:55
Lol. You cannot take out someone elses party crashers! Only you can click the quest complete. So if you are looking for someone to blame look at yourself.
perfect solution imo. well done BB!

Peccatora
16.03.16, 11:09
Lol. You cannot take out someone elses party crashers! Only you can click the quest complete. So if you are looking for someone to blame look at yourself.
perfect solution imo. well done BB!

While that's true it still messes up a swap I might have arranged already. If someone buffs my party crasher garrison I can't offer it to someone else for swaps anymore. I've heard of a bug that allows people to apply lots of buffs as long as the other person doesn't click complete, but in my case that didn't work. I was able to apply 10 buffs, but only the 4 I was supposed to do were counted for the achievement and the rest went back to my star after refreshing. So you can only use a limited amount of truce offers on each camp.

Amazony
16.03.16, 12:09
Actually I dropped all 25 on a single camp, boom achievement complete.

Peccatora
16.03.16, 14:00
Actually I dropped all 25 on a single camp, boom achievement complete.

Your are right, just tried again and it seems to work as long as the other person doesn't click complete quest. Will stop complaining then even though I don't think that being able to use so many buffs on one camp was intended :)

Diego004
16.03.16, 14:42
hello, how i recognize number of modest/decent truce offer which i have to use to friends PCG? there arent any number, bar... PCG only blinks after I use offer ... thx

BB_Ravel
16.03.16, 15:08
Just to set things straight, destroying someone else's Party Crashers without their consent is not a reportable offence, nor is it criminal.
Trolling however is against the rules.

According to reports, the other player has to be offline in order to allow you to apply more buffs than required.

Iolanthe
16.03.16, 18:26
According to reports, the other player has to be offline in order to allow you to apply more buffs than required.

Would that it were so simple. :D

To add to the posts in this thread and comments seen in chat:

Truces placed when the player being buffed is online:

Works fine so long as the player being buffed doesn't click 'complete'. No matter how many buffs are placed the camp stands tall and quests and achievements are counted and fullfilled for the buffer. Or for two buffers. This has been the most common, from playing with it in-guild and elsewhere. Based on bug-prodding we actually decided to Truce only when both players are online and paying attention.


The counter stops counting and quests and achievements are not fullfilled for the buffer even when enough buffs are used.


2 Truces were placed for the buffer's quest, the quest completed but only 1 Truce was counted in Achievements.


Truces placed when the player being buffed is offline:

25 Truces placed, all open quests and achievements completed for the buffer.


At least enough buffs to destroy the camp were placed and it didn't fall until the player logged in and clicked the waiting 'complete' in the Quest Book.


More than enough buffs to destroy the camp were placed and when the player logged in the camp had fallen, the timer was just starting to countdown, and the quest was waiting to 'complete'.


Clearly not the same experience for everyone. Might help to figure things out if the intention were clearer, it's either:

A. We're meant to be able to use many (many) buffs on one camp, and something's buggy.

~or~

B. We're not meant to be able to use many buffs on one camp, and something's buggy.

No idea where online/offline fits in.

Xibor
16.03.16, 20:19
Lol. You cannot take out someone elses party crashers! Only you can click the quest complete. So if you are looking for someone to blame look at yourself.
perfect solution imo. well done BB!

Ok that clarifies a lot! Thanks for that - I had thought I would affect the other player.
So... can multiple people then use offers on the same player's camp - and then that person finishes at their leisure (thereby removing the crashers?)

For some reason this all seems rather non-intuitive.

lordloocan
17.03.16, 16:10
While that's true it still messes up a swap I might have arranged already. If someone buffs my party crasher garrison I can't offer it to someone else for swaps anymore. I've heard of a bug that allows people to apply lots of buffs as long as the other person doesn't click complete, but in my case that didn't work. I was able to apply 10 buffs, but only the 4 I was supposed to do were counted for the achievement and the rest went back to my star after refreshing. So you can only use a limited amount of truce offers on each camp.

Has no impact on the buffs done by your friend, the buffs don't kill the camp you do when you click the blue complete tab. Buffers could drop thousands on the camp and not ''kill'' it.

Xibor
17.03.16, 20:11
Yup lordloocan - I finally got my head around it all (I think). I'm working with 2 other players. This morning we all placed some truce offers on each other's camp. The quest to remove the bandits popped up as soon as I placed mine but the other players were will allowed to place theirs. So we all just communicated when we had all placed and then we all took down the camp. Win-win for everyone.

The key is not to answer the quest until everyone you want has placed truce offerings.

Diego004
18.03.16, 17:18
this PCG thing is incredible hasty... :confused: if you have a little uncommunicative friends or guild, you dont know who was destructing your PSG... you can give tons of truce offers to friends camp and... NOTHING HAPPENED... no number, no count, no bar... NOTHING!!!! crazy scamp thing... :confused:

Houri3_old
18.03.16, 17:36
As has already been noted, buffs applied by a friend have no apparent effect on your camp until you click on the quest complete. Until you do this, people can continue applying buffs to it.
This also means that when you are applying buffs to a friend's camp, you will see no effect, unless they click quest complete. You should, however, see a change in the related Achievement counter, even before they quest complete.

needtoplay
22.03.16, 10:00
While we are talking about the Party crashers buffs, sometimes it says you can use any type of buff on your friends island, but when you get there you cannot use the lower level buff we were using during last week, you hav eto use the next buff up.

Have I got this right or wrong?

Durin_d
22.03.16, 10:13
While we are talking about the Party crashers buffs, sometimes it says you can use any type of buff on your friends island, but when you get there you cannot use the lower level buff we were using during last week, you hav eto use the next buff up.

Have I got this right or wrong?

For the "helping hand" quest ANY truce works but the Party Crasher’s camps can NOT be buffed with any buffs. It is possible that someone still has the Garrison where you need to use the modest truce but most have the Bulwark that need decent truce and in a couple of days we'll have the Fortress that requires the gaudy truce.

Madorosu
22.03.16, 10:38
While we are talking about the Party crashers buffs, sometimes it says you can use any type of buff on your friends island, but when you get there you cannot use the lower level buff we were using during last week, you hav eto use the next buff up.

Have I got this right or wrong?

If you are meaning the quest to use 4 truces of any type on a friend's island that just means that any type of truce will count towards your quest total... but you still have to use the correct type of truce appropriate to the garrison on your friends' islands.

Xibor
22.03.16, 20:52
The 'receiver' player will have a quest specifying which buffs are needed. The 'giving' player has achievements, requiring 25 of each buff type. You can place more than the other player needs if desired - the camp doesn't vanish until that player selects to do so.

And yes, the camp requires certain buffs - so you have to use the right ones. You might end up with some leftover lower-level buffs as a result.

Hope this helps.

QueenZ
23.03.16, 15:03
While we are talking about the Party crashers buffs, sometimes it says you can use any type of buff on your friends island, but when you get there you cannot use the lower level buff we were using during last week, you hav eto use the next buff up.

Have I got this right or wrong?

The quest that you get to lend a hand is the same every day throughout the event, so yes you can use any buff to fulfill your quest, but that won't change the buffs needed on your friend's island. You could find another friend who still needs the lower buffs, and that would count towards your quest. Basically, for your own quest, it doesn't matter which you do, it will be fulfilled anyway.