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Koraku
21.10.16, 14:09
More and more browsers are either dropping or limiting flash support.

It is extremely slow, resource intensive and buggy.

Will TSO ever move to a more modern technology like html5 and drop flash, or is it even considered?
Or has the notion of a transition to html5 been met with technical hurdles that can't be taken yet due to limitations or design choices?

qawpaw
23.10.16, 12:47
hopefull

Dorotheus
23.10.16, 14:00
Dont rule out the possibility of Ubisoft buying flash out and tinkering with it for the game.

Dappadon
23.10.16, 14:23
Dont rule out the possibility of Ubisoft buying flash out and tinkering with it for the game.

Before or after Vivendi takeover?

DataMinmatar
05.03.17, 00:03
Everyone knows flash is fading out for years and in the next months all browsers will stop supporting it. (announced years back!)

With some tricks adding/installing flash our self it might extend a other year but only if you want the really bad buggy with allot of exploits in it software.

It's amazing me for many years, that they still have not convert this game to HTML5 while allot other have ,some even did when they start making this game (that is how long this is going on).

No reason for me to explain how bad flash it's self is, But while they all happy to bann it of there browsers(M$, Firefox, Google(chrome), and I'm very happy with that.


Back to the game makers. I just have to ask. Why Why Why don't we hear anything about this, and please hope you have a suprice for us. while i don't see any reason to keep playing this game after all the browser banns this.

There is no way there will be a decent amount of players left that will be able to install a installer game to keep playing as now, if they are gambling in this to happen then it's RIP TSO.

The Clock is ticking.. tick-tack...

Please do something good.

hollanderdanny
05.03.17, 05:18
Ignore this topic. These are alternative facts. There are no problems. No problems at all. We'll make The Settlers Online great again!

qawpaw
05.03.17, 07:19
0o

Salem_Warrior_1
05.03.17, 08:33
Asked the same question for 5 years, flash restricts the packets , that's why the games buggy, to wit BB ignore this and blame our hardware and or browsers, an insult to other game developers playing here
for some reason, i can only assume contractual, BB are linked to adobe, nah held to there outdated software...
I do however, think BB's way of minimising the packets using graphical loops, half stringed codings as genius, but we all have mega lag , games near to being unplayable and will definitely get worse, the more they add, the more lag, hammer mans back and more often
so to sum up, i've seen alot of gem pushing from BB of late, i can only assume this it a last effort to get what they can before the demise of flash and setters itself

EasyTarget1
05.03.17, 11:19
Don't you think there is enough revenue to port the game to a different platform. Lots of work and cost maybe but should only be a one off and then they just support and add stuff as they do now.

I've been reading several reports that said flash would be dead in the next few months after that report but still it rides on so.....

Dorotheus
05.03.17, 11:20
Here is the nub of the problem for most players. Some have been predicting the demise of Flash for years, it has not happened yet. That's not to say it can't happen. However BB have taken visible steps to protect them selves if it does happen, who knows what else they have going on in the back rooms. Also in this time period company's have come along and said to themselves it's worth investing in bringing out Browsers with the main selling point being that they support flash.

Linking the life of Settlers with the life of Flash is nothing more than idle speculation in the absence of facts.

Salem_Warrior_1
05.03.17, 11:33
agreed doro, but we live with the lag today, as said, so again not viable to players comforts
To wit I say with this in mind, IMHO BB don't care to much for us as already shown, saying there maybe more going on in back ground may hold weight, but again 5 years of lag don't bode well with feed back being ignored, and saying its our hardware or browser causing lag is insultive to our intellect , some here do understand programing

In 2007, YouTube offered videos in HTML5 format to support the iPhone and iPad, which did not support Flash Player.[2] After a controversy with Apple, Adobe stopped developing Flash Player for Mobile, focussing its efforts on Adobe AIR applications and HTML5 animation.[2] In 2015, Google introduced Google Swiffy to convert Flash animation to HTML5, a tool Google would use to automatically convert Flash web ads for mobile devices.[7] In 2015, YouTube switched to HTML5 technology on all devices, however it will preserve the Flash-based video player for older web browsers.[8][9][10]

I'd say from adobe own pages there not running flash as a priority and will only keep as an back up for older browser, wont be here long IMO

Linking the life of Settlers with the life of Flash is nothing more than idle speculation in the absence of facts. is in my case incorrect

lordloocan
05.03.17, 11:41
Would be interesting to have a dev do one of their extended reports on this issue so we know what is going on and to stop the speculation etc. As a gem buyer I am increasingly wary of spending any more cash with the possibility of not being able to login one day due to the demise of flash.

Salem_Warrior_1
05.03.17, 11:43
+ 1

TheVictorious
05.03.17, 12:29
Meh, I wrote very long reply and lost it somehow, I hate this.

Anyway, again I'll write it again hopefully not lost anything that I was about to say.

It is so long, sorry, but I'm trying to clarify things deeply from business and technician wise, also how I think BB will deal with this.

I agree with Salem, and Doro, BB actually seems risk to lose some of their reputation to get more players that not have a background about technical things, personally I'm developer, I really annoyed from support, but really, support most of times for most of companies meant to be like that! they deal with all people, regardless with who they are talking to, they mostly like a robots following instructions, they not have a big background about how to deal with products, as for example, this game, they don't know how to play it, or even how the developers made it, they got just a manual and some instructions!

Anyway, The flash player will die, the BB pushing themselves to the edge of flash player life, why?

Because:

If they want to get HTML5 version they need to do revamp for the front-end side (the flash player client) they need another team, and must be bigger team also, so the current team support the flash version, and new team do the new HTML5 version, the problem both teams must work with new features as well, the new version must write code of 5 years of experience of flash game! this need long time and big amount of money!

Also, BB bet on a win of battle of flash player, Adobe says flash will live, for long term at least, they says the investors growing and the flash will live! big companies (starting from Apple, Google, Microsoft) says flash MUST die, it is a battle that BB stands on the wrong side (as they wish they will win and they on correct side), the problem with this, the BB will stand until the edge of flash life, then they will find solutions, before that, BB will not listen to any calls that saying, FLASH IS DEAD!

This topic will become more active next months, will be more annoying for players, game will get less players, again why? Chrome already block the flash player in the background, Firefox will do very soon if they not did that already (they said in early of 2017) , not only that, both browsers very soon will block the flash player at all, fantastic! (adding also, Microsoft edge will block flash by default this April).

Now BB will provide many steps for players with how to activate flash players and so on, support team will get headache, the forum will be more fun for MODs and BB ! you will see !! so BB suppose you are a technician guy, oh wait since it is a pegi7, BB must provide a steps for a technician child standards, to fix the game, I have no idea why BB think that players will suffer with the headache of this game if the players have many alternatives around!

In very a few words, flash will die, yes, but slowly, oh wait surprise, it will die faster, because of ransomware so it is security matters at first place, BB you risk your player for the sake of your game :) , also, BB got the backup, the external client, if the browsers totally block the game, BB will ask you to use the external client, bad news for BB, there is a rumors that says Microsoft will block flash inside Windows as well.

So!!

This game will die, BB will care? I'm not sure, they are a company after all and looking for profit, if they see the game is no more worth, it will die then, that easy! guess how BB will defend themselves? they will say, it is a Flash-based game, and Microsoft, Google, and most companies killed it not our fault, especially that Adobe still support it!
But if it is giving BB a good income and got a bright future, then you will hear a good news, the game will live yay :D

Just to not get my words wrong, I'm not attacking BB in anyway, they are a company looking for a profit, this is not bad point, as all the people in the world looking for Money they do, but I just trying to clarify everything, I'm a developer, soon hopefully, I'll be a CTO, if you know what CTO means, you can research (because CTO involved with matters like this), if I were in BB, I'll look exactly like this, but also with a big long discussions in the back rooms.

You are here a players love the game, so I am, we want to this game to live, and BB as well, but the key problem is Money here :)

If BB lost money and got broken, not this game only fall, but all the games that BB develop.

As a player, I really hope BB just give as any feedback on this matter, as for example (what do think, are you looking for long term life for this game, what the backup for this issue?) .. just to respect our technical background, and to feel that our sounds is heard.

Edit: if BB allow me to post one link about flash + Microsoft here, I can post it, but you can search in Google about the "Microsoft To Add Flash Blocking in Windows 10", interesting article, which clearly says, zero-day is very very soon for the flash.

Salem_Warrior_1
05.03.17, 12:46
+1 , ty someone who understands development and the issue's

Solzar
05.03.17, 17:29
Just some thoughts for whatever it's worth...

Much older versions of Flash going years back work perfectly and in some cases better with Settlers Online than the latest versions do. This constant compromise that's been going on for years where your TSO game client is also the same program you upgrade to use for general browsing, banking, etc. is the cause of a lot of problems. Dare I say, by them staying with Flash things could get better? One approach they may simply take is to force us to use a specific program (browser, call it what you will) that supports the Flash version of their choice and stay with that for the games last days. The same way many MMO's force you to download their custom client program, TSO in future may do the same with a specific Flash version which doesn't need to be upgraded ever as the back engine. TSO has never leaped into any kind of new ways with software technology that require anything more than it has been doing for the past 5 years.

A TSO survival approach could be an improvement as soon as they break free from different browsers, different versions of, and versions of Flash. And instead pick a final Flash version of choice and either a custom front end or a hybrid browser/custom approach and more is then in BB's control. Less "out of their control" variances. A rewrite for a game this old? Perhaps, if there was a strong player base growth all of a sudden and/or some fancy 3D technology demanded by players. Otherwise they could easily keep going with Flash and more reliably as the years go by with hopefully performance improvements made as they look at how things are organized in code.

Some good points were made in this thread though. When it comes to risky things like blocks etc. while playing, by me living in Canada and logging into the UK server there is no lag at all. It's usually around 2am to 5am UK time that I'm playing. But as far as this game surviving under Flash it can be done and I'm guessing they will continue to do so. If BB does decide to do a rewrite it would be a very amazing choice and I give big respects for them doing so.

Mannerheim
06.03.17, 19:49
In the past BB has said in few places like German and Polish forums that there will be no HTML5 version. Its been also said that the solution to the Flash is dead issue was already made over a year ago and it is the downloadable version which is based on the open source Chromium and has multiplatform support. They have full control on the behavior, security, etc. and it does not matter if an operating system or the browsers bans Flash.

qawpaw
07.03.17, 07:35
+1

would be nice with bb response though-

BB_Saqui
07.03.17, 12:14
Thanks all for your concerns. Flash isn't going anywhere anytime soon. The news that many of you are referencing is in regards to Flash being active by default on those browsers mentioned. This means that when you reach some Flash-enabled content, it will ask your permission before activating it; this is only a good thing because it gives you a choice. Since you guys play "The Settlers Online", you've made the choice to show that content to play the game.

We don't plan on stopping development with Flash. Remember that if Flash was somehow ever going to go away permanently, we would be the first to take action and inform our community accordingly.

Until that happens, you have nothing to worry about. :)

DataMinmatar
07.03.17, 17:52
It seems BB has for now no plans to convert to html5 after also reading BB response on the German forum.

And they started there years back with asking.
http://forum.diesiedleronline.de/threads/118953-Zukunft-von-Flash-fraglich-was-macht-DSO/page35

I just fear we gone lose allot of players while allot are not that good with manual installing plug-ins and changing settings, and for the players that play from there work will almost be sure have no admin rights on there computer to do those things.

I have had friends that stopped playing while you have to press refresh page after giving in your password (long in screen of TSO) else it takes forever to log in. (they thought the game just was broken) this is after 2 years still there this problem, if some already stop cause of that, then changing of giving permission for plug-ins that others don't advice will scare those off.

I hope I'm wrong and that we get allot new players that are willing to install and enable flash to be able to play this game, I'm just very skeptic.

TabulaRasa
07.03.17, 18:13
Everything I have to say to BB about their arguments and opinion is LOL :D

TheVictorious
07.03.17, 18:29
Thanks all for your concerns. Flash isn't going anywhere anytime soon. The news that many of you are referencing is in regards to Flash being active by default on those browsers mentioned. This means that when you reach some Flash-enabled content, it will ask your permission before activating it; this is only a good thing because it gives you a choice. Since you guys play "The Settlers Online", you've made the choice to show that content to play the game.

We don't plan on stopping development with Flash. Remember that if Flash was somehow ever going to go away permanently, we would be the first to take action and inform our community accordingly.

Until that happens, you have nothing to worry about. :)

As what I was thinking and what I said :D

Thanks for the answer :)

But for sure, one day, not in short time, but close to short term, flash somehow will be dead :) anyway, the more restriction on flash will make game experience worst compared to previous days (as for example the chrome blocking the flash in background, other browsers will do the same soon).

Maybe HTTP2 will fix a lot of issues later, but this will make things last longer, but not forever.

TheVictorious
07.03.17, 18:32
It seems BB has for now no plans to convert to html5 after also reading BB response on the German forum.

And they started there years back with asking.
http://forum.diesiedleronline.de/threads/118953-Zukunft-von-Flash-fraglich-was-macht-DSO/page35

I just fear we gone lose allot of players while allot are not that good with manual installing plug-ins and changing settings, and for the players that play from there work will almost be sure have no admin rights on there computer to do those things.

I have had friends that stopped playing while you have to press refresh page after giving in your password (long in screen of TSO) else it takes forever to log in. (they thought the game just was broken) this is after 2 years still there this problem, if some already stop cause of that, then changing of giving permission for plug-ins that others don't advice will scare those off.

I hope I'm wrong and that we get allot new players that are willing to install and enable flash to be able to play this game, I'm just very skeptic.

BB miss one word to think about and to understand "Reliability".

I can add also, UX.

If you look at the game review in steam, what people think, and see alternatives, for real, steam kicking people out of this game :)

qawpaw
08.03.17, 05:19
tnx bb good to know

Salem_Warrior_1
12.03.17, 07:47
Thanks all for your concerns. Flash isn't going anywhere anytime soon. The news that many of you are referencing is in regards to Flash being active by default on those browsers mentioned. This means that when you reach some Flash-enabled content, it will ask your permission before activating it; this is only a good thing because it gives you a choice. Since you guys play "The Settlers Online", you've made the choice to show that content to play the game.

We don't plan on stopping development with Flash. Remember that if Flash was somehow ever going to go away permanently, we would be the first to take action and inform our community accordingly.

Until that happens, you have nothing to worry about. :)

So basically your saying flash is staying, and SO is lag, "the words Until that happens , you have nothing to worry about* ,dont bode well when games becoming virtually unplayable cos of said lag, Lag is here and has been for years, oww wait a minute that means its been happening for years, Fact we all know flash is restrictive, causes lag and is struggling with game, thats why alot are dropping or already dropped it, Yes I worry, i like TSO, but BB dont seam to care for players painful experiences, " don't worry" LOL
I have seen the option introduced time ago for players to remove borders, men walking on map and to lower grafix, this solution was BB recognising flash was struggling, to wit I say ,this tells me BB dont want to spend any money redeveloping the front end

EasyTarget1
12.03.17, 11:33
As per, why spend if you don't need to. "We have enough customers, new and old so no real issue with lag". Its the same with most big businesses, got to think about those profit margins first.

Qualan
16.03.17, 07:40
TSO is already an older game. Big investments usually do not pay off in any significant way so most times the investments will go to a new game, who knows they are working on a completely new and improved TSO 2 already

unlucky
16.03.17, 12:40
I like reading all these comments about "lag" and drop outs and whatever. Having been playing for years now, I must say i haven't really noticed - after the first year or so it dawned that the game is not a fast kill them all game, but a nice placid game that you can dip in and out of.

So what problems do I have? Almost all pauses, drop outs when typing etc. actually have nothing to do with Flash, they are actually due to poor internet connection issues, indeed all the problems I've experienced in TSO, I have experienced on websites that don't use Flash. My son on holiday from SF actually commented on how often the internet dropped out - just for a few milliseconds, but enough to reset the software he was using.

Fibre to the box in our street (just 50m from the house) hasn't actually improved things at all. So perhaps flash is more susceptible to connection losses but it isn't to blame for everything

TabulaRasa
16.03.17, 15:57
Ignore this topic. These are alternative facts. There are no problems. No problems at all. We'll make The Settlers Online great again!

ahahaha :D

EasyTarget1
18.03.17, 09:32
I get lag and crashes all the time. My internet is fine everywhere else so this just seems to be a flash problem. To get lag yourself or anyone for that matter just try and remove multiple items for your barracks queue. After 5/6 items the cross is blacked out for a long time. Click the barracks again and suddenly the cross is back. Not only is removing multiple items from your barracks queue or any queue for that matter a pain, the time out lag problems make things worse.

I like TSO tho so I live through the pain but still....

Baggis
18.03.17, 16:12
BB has already given its answer on Flash support in browsers: it has given us a standalone client which has its own flash embedded therefore it does not matter what the browser makers do.

We will always have a game to play whatever happens to Flash. As for re-writing to HTML5, it will be a big job and will require re-writing large parts of the game, some things may not even be possible in HTML5 versus Flash. I am going through a similar process at work migrating our product from Silverlight to HTML5. I have played this game since 2012 and I rarely get lag, the only times I have noticed server based lag is during busy events but those days have not been seen for a long while. I play the game in the standalone client, it is stable and 'lag' free. A lot of what people consider to be lag is actually their own PC resource issues such as processes consuming disk or processors, it doesn't matter how fast your PC is if there's something errant going on behind the scenes. The only time I get booted is when I leave it idle minimised, same as the browser does, I would question if that is not by design.

When Flash reaches EOL there will be a notice period of at least a few years and even then there will be ways to continue using Flash in browsers, exactly as there has been for Silverlight, not sure what the fuss is about.

Some of the things people are complaining about such as time it takes to queue/de-queue items are semantics of the client-server environment/deficient functionality, not anything at all to do with flash. If BB gave you a button that de-queued all items in the queue except the currently building one, it would need to talk to the database once, not once per item. That is just inadequate design, not lag.


If you're playing the game in a browser, do yourself a favour and install the standalone client. Most of the 'Flash' issues are caused by Flash objects on other browser tabs you have open at the same time as playing.

Baggis
18.03.17, 16:39
Edit: if BB allow me to post one link about flash + Microsoft here, I can post it, but you can search in Google about the "Microsoft To Add Flash Blocking in Windows 10", interesting article, which clearly says, zero-day is very very soon for the flash.

You're spreading mis-information, this is relating to BROWSERS and more specifically Microsoft EDGE and optional blocking.

Nobody is doubting that Flash is on the way out but there's still 10% of internet sites using it, it will go to click to play first for a long while before it is blocked all together.

There is no evidence that Flash will be blocked anything other than optionally in Browsers.


"In future Windows 10 operating systems releases, Microsoft will provide users with the means to block Flash use. They'll get a dialog box when visiting Web sites that will offer choices on whether to block or use Flash"

TheVictorious
18.03.17, 20:15
You're spreading mis-information, this is relating to BROWSERS and more specifically Microsoft EDGE and optional blocking.

Nobody is doubting that Flash is on the way out but there's still 10% of internet sites using it, it will go to click to play first for a long while before it is blocked all together.

There is no evidence that Flash will be blocked anything other than optionally in Browsers.


"In future Windows 10 operating systems releases, Microsoft will provide users with the means to block Flash use. They'll get a dialog box when visiting Web sites that will offer choices on whether to block or use Flash"

the option is to enable flash, not to block flash, flash will be blocked by default, and exceptionally you allow some websites, or just allow all, already got issue opened with solutions on issue forum.

EasyTarget1
18.03.17, 21:25
using standalone clients, happy so far. Takes a little fiddling with a 64 bit PC but not too bad, search these forums for a solution if you are stuck.

Grimhurst
19.03.17, 19:32
Does BB`s `slim browser` reduce some of the lag issues that we all experience ? I know it still uses flash but is it actually better than using standard browsers ?

PS - i still cant get my slim browser to work btw lol.

Grimhurst
21.03.17, 18:55
thanks for your help easytarget1 - had to uninstall vlc media player in the end to get slim browser to work , couldn't figure out the file extension association changes...

EasyTarget1
21.03.17, 22:06
recently I have had major lag issues when on an adventure and I invite others. I've updated flash, changed the pepflashplayer.dll that slim browser uses in plugins directory and made the changes to json files so we'll see if that helps with the lag issues.

Are there any network guru's that know what port the slim browser uses so I can setup port forwarding and what not - may not need to but it all helps. Prolly have to install a network monitoring tool to find out the ports used but hopefully someone knows.

Durin_d
22.03.17, 09:39
Are there any network guru's that know what port the slim browser uses so I can setup port forwarding and what not - may not need to but it all helps. Prolly have to install a network monitoring tool to find out the ports used but hopefully someone knows.

It uses the same ports as any other web browser so it connects to 80 and 443 on the server side. You don't need any port forwarding as long as you can browse the web.

EasyTarget1
22.03.17, 11:08
sorted, its called slim browser but it doesn't seem to be a web browser so just making sure. I did find a couple of flash player ports used but these are only for media which I doubt applies. There has been a change tho in the lock ups for me so I think my connection was being monitor and a bug found. Was happening on every adventure where I invited others but last night when the lock up occurred I had a network refresh after a couple of minutes and never needed to close slim browser in order to continue with my adv. Since then all seems well. Further testing to be done but good signs.

EasyTarget1
22.03.17, 12:33
got another lock up so things not great, support are working on it so hopefully it gets resolved.

cliff60
08.04.17, 07:02
most browsers have already started to block flash. its not so much cause of flash itself but all the malware and spyware adobe put in it just as they do for all their products. flash is well beyond its sell by date and needs to be banned. its only still going cause most browser games r refusing to get rid of it. my anti virus goes nuts everytime flash gets an update and i have to spend hrs getting rid of all the bloatware viruses and other junk that comes in the updates. last update install files i didnt want and no option to stop it installing them. My ISP had to come out and replave my modem and do some work on my PC to get rid of the stuff adobe put on my system without my knowledge which was causing a prob with my internet connection all the way to my ISP. Java is another thats needs to be baned as thats a hackers dream cause its so easy to hack into system running java and flash. Some games have switched to HTML5 and they run far better now. even silverlight would be a better opttion than flash and java as it does the job of both. but even that is being critised for causing probs in browser games. There was a call out for a world wide ban on flash a few years ago. most sites stopped using it. chrome has banned flash but games still using it have told ppl how to unban it cause their to lazy to rewrite the programs for their games. 1 game i used to play only took a few days to change the programming to HTML5 so it can be done with competant programmers. when they switch the game was only down for 10 mins. man what a big diff in how the game ran. faster more stable no crashes every few hrs. graphics were not as good but the game was far better. Most of the bugs in the game comes from flash rather than the game itself.

Foksiq
28.07.17, 15:25
Thanks all for your concerns. Flash isn't going anywhere anytime soon. The news that many of you are referencing is in regards to Flash being active by default on those browsers mentioned. This means that when you reach some Flash-enabled content, it will ask your permission before activating it; this is only a good thing because it gives you a choice. Since you guys play "The Settlers Online", you've made the choice to show that content to play the game.

We don't plan on stopping development with Flash. Remember that if Flash was somehow ever going to go away permanently, we would be the first to take action and inform our community accordingly.

Until that happens, you have nothing to worry about. :)

How about Adobe's announcement about Flash EOL?
https://blogs.adobe.com/conversations/2017/07/adobe-flash-update.html


Given this progress, and in collaboration with several of our technology partners – including Apple, Facebook, Google, Microsoft and Mozilla – Adobe is planning to end-of-life Flash. Specifically, we will stop updating and distributing the Flash Player at the end of 2020 and encourage content creators to migrate any existing Flash content to these new open formats.

cliff60
07.08.17, 16:31
as edge and chrome have already blocked flash and the download version of settlers has even worse lag than the online version and the steam version is even worse i say settlers will be dead by the end of this year unless they switch to HTML5 or webGL.Even adobe have said flash will be removed totaly by the end of 2020. So u wont even be able to use it even if u stick with flash programing as flash wont even be in existence. Adobe announced years ago that the life of flash is going to end but didnt give any dates for it till recently. Prob is HTML5 still uses java which has even more security issues than flash.

Its not just BB that wont switch away from flash though Just about all the browser game devs r saying the same thing No plans to stop using flash.

My feelings r they r just going to keep the games going pumping up the price of game currency or like goodgame increase the amount of offers requiring real money to get as much out of the players as they can then when flash is gone close the games down.

Travian have already started closing their flash games down. Travian sent out warning telling those using chrome and edge if they want to keep playing switch to a diff browser. but if players wanted to carry on using chrome they gave the instructions on how to unblock flash but use at ur own risk.

The reason why adobe r getting rid of flash is due to al the complaints about how bad it is and all the security loopholes in it allowing others to get access to ur system and steal credit card info. Flash and java is how hackers get into systems to take all the info they need to steal ur ID and banking details. Hell even the NSA and NASA got hacked via flash and java lol.

The security issues with adobe is not restricted to flash either PDF reader and photoshop have major security issues as well. HTML5 will remove the security probs with flash but will still have the same probs due to java. Not sure if webGL needs java or not but it seems a better option to HTML5 Or microsofts silverlight might be an option as that does the same job as java and flash combined without the security issues. But silverlight is old as well and beyond its use by date just like flash.

littlepret
09.08.17, 14:35
I hope they hire more employee to solve the problems. I saw this happens in others games, and that time was terrible. No new content for long month and years.

Mannerheim
09.08.17, 15:55
They have already confirmed after the Flash announcement that there will be no HTML5/WebGL version of the nor they have plans for TSO2. They are researching/looking into making the game as a downloadable version only which will bypass the plugin and browser dependency.

littlepret
09.08.17, 17:00
They have already confirmed after the Flash announcement that there will be no HTML5/WebGL version of the nor they have plans for TSO2. They are researching/looking into making the game as a downloadable version only which will bypass the plugin and browser dependency.

:)
See this. It seems official but not on a front page:
https://forum.thesettlersonline.cz/threads/3143-Bude-Settlers-pokra%C4%8Dovat?p=18711&viewfull=1#post18711

Mannerheim
10.08.17, 11:47
:)
See this. It seems official but not on a front page:
https://forum.thesettlersonline.cz/threads/3143-Bude-Settlers-pokra%C4%8Dovat?p=18711&viewfull=1#post18711

Yeah I've seen it but it's posted by a local community manager. At test server there is a post by the core development team member or at German forum by World wide community coordinator.