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Flubbervius
15.12.16, 10:42
In the Christmas Dev Diary it said there would be "nine collectibles each containing two items spawn on your island with every collectible item refresh".

I have only had 6 Christmas collectibles (so 12 items), a friend had 8 collectibles (16 items) and another friend had 7 collectibles (14 items).

Has anyone else had less than the expected amount?

MorellaCarter
15.12.16, 11:19
I got 8.

Alexa75
15.12.16, 11:58
I got 6 :-) 12 items

Concita
15.12.16, 12:25
got 8 - 16 items

Dorotheus
15.12.16, 12:47
6 all candy canes

Dorotheus
15.12.16, 13:02
The dev dairy says we will get 9 spawns containing 2 collectables each, that's a total of 18 per spawn.
I had just 6 with my first spawn all of them candy canes.

Merged

BB_Saqui
15.12.16, 13:28
Thanks for the reports guys. We're looking into this, but for the meantime can you report back how many Christmas collectibles you get on the next respawn. Thanks!

HFoC
15.12.16, 13:34
9x2, so correct here

second spawn, same, 9x2

qawpaw
15.12.16, 14:13
i got 42 from 2 spawns

BB_Saqui
15.12.16, 15:14
i got 42 from 2 spawns

Do you mean total collectibles? We're really just looking for the amount of Christmas specific collectibles per respawn :P.

Wakky
15.12.16, 15:14
I got 14 items from 2 spawns - ( each time 1 collectibel not found ) - so could maybe be 9 event collectibels - seem some get more and other less than planned.

MorellaCarter
15.12.16, 16:02
Second spawn got me 7, so that's 15 in total . :/

qawpaw
15.12.16, 16:27
no christmas collies 42

Bobblyt
15.12.16, 16:56
I have collected 48 Xmas items (16 bells, 18 candy canes and 14 gingerbread) from 2 spawns

qawpaw
15.12.16, 17:24
good to hear bobblyt, that i am not the only one.
18 bells 16 canes 8 ginger
also from 2 spawn

Fim18
15.12.16, 17:29
2 spawns with 10 bells, 10 canes and 4 ginger. 24 in total.

Jax030310
15.12.16, 17:57
just had my second spaw, only 4 were christmas 2 candy canes and 2 bells so 4 canes and 4 bells for each one collected.. this mornings was much better.....

Areop-Enap
15.12.16, 18:51
My second spawn of 30 collectibles (total) contained 7 candy canes, 2 gingerbread, 1 bell for a total of 14 candy, 4 gingers, and 2 bells.

Dorotheus
15.12.16, 19:49
Second spawn 5 candy canes, 4 gingerbread, no bells yet.

Flubbervius
15.12.16, 20:01
My second spawn had 14 collectibles (28 items)

topgearfan
15.12.16, 22:07
started new on USA server today, 3 collies (6 items).

this server evening spawn, 4 xmas collies out of 29 total

Shamroque
15.12.16, 22:59
I have a total of 40 Xmas collies from 2 spawns. So, an averages of 5 collies per spawn.

Not to mention the imbalance of the collies found: 34 candy canes, 2 bells, 4 ginger breads.

qawpaw
16.12.16, 03:07
my 3. spawn ony had 15 christmas collies, so down hill from here it seems.

Wakky
16.12.16, 06:17
my third spawn gave 10 collies - so 36 items untill now

needtoplay
16.12.16, 07:26
After 3 rounds of collectables I have only got 6 ginger bread.

Must be because of the Brexit vote and the falling exchange rate of the pound causing the increase in cost of importing.

MorellaCarter
16.12.16, 08:15
Third spawn 8. I'm keeping close to the promised 9, but not quite reaching it.

MorellaCarter
16.12.16, 08:36
I've actually gotten 8 gingerbread, but only 2 bells. :/ They must be expensive too.

Kit_
16.12.16, 08:51
so far, 7, 8 and 10
so not the expected 9 on any of the spawns

hades8840
16.12.16, 09:03
At this rate the quest to have 25 of each xmas collectable will be completed by next christmas this improved version of the collectables isnt that improved

Amazony
16.12.16, 09:50
For most people in my guild ( myself included) bells seems to be lowest drop and candy cane the highest.

qawpaw
16.12.16, 10:55
can tell my collies are back to normal on 3. spawn 9 christmas collies and 4. spawn 5 christmas collies

puncte31
16.12.16, 11:27
m2 just 3 bells and 5 gingerbread

lordloocan
16.12.16, 11:43
Just 5 event collects on island today so just 10 items in the kitty, this is silly, nowhere near 25 of each yet.

So far total of 74 items in stock from 5 sets of collects, meaning an average of (74/2 per collect)/5 spawns= 7.4 collects spawning on island each set. I don't make that 9.........

Alsh
16.12.16, 12:24
I had only 6 Xmas collectable clicks on my island this morning though previous spawns had 9/10. And still no bells!

It's going to take way too long to get this "collect 25 of each" quest done if this isn't corrected soon.

Dorotheus
16.12.16, 12:45
My record now 6,9,9

lordloocan1
16.12.16, 13:31
8 on newfoundland

Dimytes
16.12.16, 14:50
The distribution of what collectables that spawn seems to be uneven.
I have seen many complaing about getting way too little gingerbread but noone have complained about having too little candy.
Checking the market it confirms that they do not spawn evenly
Alot of candy can be bought but none or very little ginger bread are for sale. Slightly more bells than gingerbreads are for sale but still they are rare.
Why is the distribution so uneven if I can do nothing with all the surplus of candy?

I know it is random so I do not judge this just on my own collectables but also how the market looks like and what people complain about.

So far I have heard 0 people complaining about that they can almost not find any candy cane.

What are all those extra candy canes for if they cant be used to anything else but together with bells and gingerbreads?

hades8840
16.12.16, 15:24
Is BB going to sort the issue that many of us still cant even do the quest to own 25 of each at present i have 27 bells 50 canes and 16 gingerbread men ....thats after 5 spawns my wife has 6 gingerbread men ... you cant trade for gingerbread men as it seems everyone has the same issue

Jesh
16.12.16, 15:24
current stock 8 bells, 18canes ,6 ginger.
got all the collectibles so far.

BB_Saqui
16.12.16, 15:30
Dear Settlers,

Thank you for spotting an information mismatch in the Christmas Dev Diary (http://forum.thesettlersonline.com/threads/34122-Dev-Diary-Christmas-Event-2016?p=323350&viewfull=1#post323350). You were right - the amount of Christmas Collectibles that are being spawned on the home island is not always 9, and they do not always provide 2 resource items.

With this in mind, the Dev Diary has been adjusted, so it reflects the actual mechanic:
With each spawn of collectibles, you can find up to 10 (in rare cases even more!) Christmas Collectibles providing resource items.

We will keep investigating this with upcoming events in mind.

qawpaw
16.12.16, 16:08
geat. but at this speed, i am sorry to say , we never get to collect enough ginger bread for quest.

djnelson99
16.12.16, 17:18
I am not sure BB has the collectables appearing in equal measure, and at this rate will be finding the achievements a little challenging!

Currently have collected 4 spawns, and traded/bought none, and am sat with

4 Bells
64 Candy Cane
12 Gingerbread

As there are only 19d left of the event and so far had only 4 bells in 2d appear on island, then i am not convinced that I can possibly get the 125 required of each collectable in order to make the 5 baskets of presents achievement! If they continue to appear at the current rate, I'd have about 40 bells total from the entire event LOL

Durin_d
16.12.16, 18:32
Currently have collected 4 spawns, and traded/bought none, and am sat with

4 Bells
64 Candy Cane
12 Gingerbread


You should trade those candy canes to bells.

I was missing 5 candy canes from the first baskets so I traded my extra 5 gingerbread to candy canes with my guild mate.

topgearfan
16.12.16, 20:16
yep. im still sitting at 2. :D

OleGit
16.12.16, 22:26
Sounds like your guild mates are happy to rob you.

lordloocan
16.12.16, 23:27
With each spawn of collectibles, you can find up to 10 (in rare cases even more!) Christmas Collectibles providing resource items.

wow, where did the goalposts go?

qawpaw
17.12.16, 05:11
wow this morning 2 christmas collies 4 ginger bread , but as yesterday a lot of banners spawn when i dont really need them. or do i ;)

Roderius
17.12.16, 09:02
Dear Settlers,

Thank you for spotting an information mismatch in the Christmas Dev Diary (http://forum.thesettlersonline.com/threads/34122-Dev-Diary-Christmas-Event-2016?p=323350&viewfull=1#post323350). You were right - the amount of Christmas Collectibles that are being spawned on the home island is not always 9, and they do not always provide 2 resource items.

With this in mind, the Dev Diary has been adjusted, so it reflects the actual mechanic:
With each spawn of collectibles, you can find up to 10 (in rare cases even more!) Christmas Collectibles providing resource items.

We will keep investigating this with upcoming events in mind.

Thank you for making the Dev diary adjustment, but we would require an adjustment/correction for this event, not future events. With the current collectible drop rate, the likelihood that anyone would complete their achievements looks quite slim.

Budgy
17.12.16, 10:42
Not a single person is buying canes at the moment on Norhtisle. And after 2 days I have about 100 X-mas collectables ratio 20:60:20 so still no basket of present (and quest) for me.

LordBosse
17.12.16, 11:19
I'm inclined to agree with Roderius tbh.

Kanagomi
17.12.16, 13:26
bells 28, canes 54, gingerbread 16

all collectibles collected so far...

what to say... BB... pls remove achievements from event if you are unable to make them feasible or bug proof (collectibles achievements are always problem in every single event)... other thing collectibles... very bad idea and concept - performance, spawn places (sometimes completely hidden) and so on...

halv12
17.12.16, 13:30
on one server I am close be able to make first basket ( only searching 2 spawns a day ) - on other I am only half way - top achievement is to make 5 baskets - meaning you have 4 days ( mean ) to collect enough for 1 basket. - so after 2 days I think it a bit early to give up. :)

halv12
17.12.16, 13:34
complaning after 3 spawns out of up to 63 is a bit early I think :) - still a fair chance to get the needed 125 bells :)

Cully
17.12.16, 14:10
I've done all Christmas events so far and after 5 spawns (where I got all the collectibles) I'm still 1 off the 25 I need for my quest. 34 canes, 28 gingerbread and just 24 bells. Worst collection of Christmas collectibles yet

topgearfan
17.12.16, 14:47
canes have always been plenty and breads too little i think.

Urd123
17.12.16, 16:31
my memory from the 2 times I have been playing during xmas was that it used to be random. some needed one sort others needed other sorts. I could always just put what I had in exes in TO and someone would buy my 5 bells for 5 canes or what it was.
This year we all have lots of cane and very few bells + gingerbread.
Prices on bells and bread in TO are huge as result. At the moment I have 51 cane 4 gingerbread and 6 bells. Been buying bells and gingerbread for beans to finish first portion of 25 of each.

mrnjau
17.12.16, 17:29
For 3 days I have managed to collect 12 ginger breads (79 candy and 25 bells) With this rate will need four and half weeks of event to complete all achievements for present baskets. Trade office not working, price for ginger bread sky high ...

Zeta123
17.12.16, 17:40
For 3 days I have managed to collect 12 ginger breads (79 candy and 25 bells) With this rate will need four and half weeks of event to complete all achievements for present baskets. Trade office not working, price for ginger bread sky high ...

same with bells too, huge amount of candy canes, but no bells.. TO not working as many has same problem..

Kanagomi
17.12.16, 17:42
bells 36
canes 72
gingerbread 16

(all collectibles collected so far)

Kanagomi
17.12.16, 18:03
Im not just unlucky according to TO. 3:6:1 seems as collectible distribution or something like that. Every single event there is some issue with collectibles at least what i remember. In my opinion collectibles should be removed from game as one of the worst ideas (performance, bugs, spawn distribution issues, collectibles hidden behind rocks, buildings and trees etc)...

Xibor
17.12.16, 18:50
I'm getting some of each but a HUGE proportions of Candy Canes - much more than an even spread across the group. At this point 36 bells, 98 candy canes, 20 gingerbread - but still searching...

Roderius
17.12.16, 22:09
Dear BB,

Where on earth have you hidden all those bells?

4-5 spawns and only 4 bells collected?!

How many of you have received few bells in collectibles?

ginny31
17.12.16, 23:43
wierdest thing havent been able to get many gingerbread at all only had 16 but last batch collectables just finished had 18 gingerbread almost all the xmas collectables was gingerbread men

F1ress
18.12.16, 06:07
Bells and gingerbread have been difficult to collect. Generally the number of event collectibles vs the normal collectibles seems ridiculously low. This morning I only picked up 2 candy canes and 1 gingerbread.

farmerjane
18.12.16, 13:23
well this has been the worst day I got ZERO from todays spawn... never going to make the achievement like this

Ynita
18.12.16, 13:27
it was the same last year, it's the same with normal collectibles (think the ratio of herbs to banners) some are rarer than others.

Vaargson
18.12.16, 13:38
yes, but the problem is that due to the poor ratio, it is going to be impossible to finish every achievement unless you want to pay through the nose in TO. I have collected every collectible on twice a day since the event started and I have 16 ginger.

I will not be able to the 125 needed to finish the achievements.

I don't mind not making achievements where it is my choice. But where the planners/developers mess up again, that it a different matter.

Urd123
18.12.16, 14:52
we now have a tread on bells - one on gingerbread and one on collies not spawning correctly. We have a lot of different memory on how it was. And a lot of theoires on how it is meant to be or should be.

So please are all 3 kinds meant to be equally easy to get ? or is it meant to be like this??

- We find lots of canes and dont get many bells or gingerbread?

As i said before - have been playing during 2 events - never had any problems swapping same amount of one kind for same of another, so I dont think it has been this bad the last 2 years.

I managed to make one basket of presents - and have now 14 bells 11 gingerbread 73 candy cane. ( I bought 2- 4 bells and 2-4 gb in TO)

Ynita
18.12.16, 15:43
last year:
http://forum.thesettlersonline.com/threads/32225-Gingerbread
http://forum.thesettlersonline.com/threads/32200-Feedback-Christmas-Event-2015?p=293033&viewfull=1#post293033
http://forum.thesettlersonline.com/threads/32200-Feedback-Christmas-Event-2015?p=292860&viewfull=1#post292860
http://forum.thesettlersonline.com/threads/32200-Feedback-Christmas-Event-2015?p=292958&viewfull=1#post292958

Would be interesting to know whether the people thinking they wouldn't make the achievement a few days into the event last year did or not :)

BlackBart1982
18.12.16, 17:40
made my 1st basket of presents after day 3, still 17 days to go and I am confident-ish I may make the full 5 baskets at the end. I only collect 2 spawns a day, but die hards may make the full 3 spawns a day.

I feel sorry for those who can only make the 1 spawn daily, as this part of the event is clearly not to their advantage. Having said that, their best bet is to sell their collectibles for presents so they get them that way - the collie : present ratio is pretty insane, so no reason not to miss out on presents

Kanagomi
18.12.16, 17:54
38 bells
92 canes
26 gingerbread

Kanagomi
18.12.16, 17:57
38 bells
92 canes
26 gingerbread

Very uneven distribution... and its not only about randomness because almost the same ratio/distribution holds for other people too as you can see in TO. More exactly there is more canes than bells and more bells than gingerbread in Northisle world (not only my case)

lordloocan1
18.12.16, 23:16
Think yourself lucky Bart, have managed 2 sets of collects every day and sometimes 3 sets, still on 16/25 bells so not even made first basket yet.

Kanagomi
19.12.16, 07:22
44 bells
114 canes
34 gingerbread

If this is not bug than im convinced that this is BB trick forcing us to use gems for achievement :) every single event there is some problem with collectibles... but do you know what? i could easily buy those gingerbread and bells for achievement (i have or can make enough gc) but its not worth of it and in addition this achievement is boring so no reason. (except to see some full achievement progress bar - you look at it once per year maybe :) and few achievement presents are not worth of paying 15k gc per 10 gingerbread)...

happy xmas all :)

MikeLido
19.12.16, 11:17
last year:
http://forum.thesettlersonline.com/threads/32225-Gingerbread
http://forum.thesettlersonline.com/threads/32200-Feedback-Christmas-Event-2015?p=293033&viewfull=1#post293033
http://forum.thesettlersonline.com/threads/32200-Feedback-Christmas-Event-2015?p=292860&viewfull=1#post292860
http://forum.thesettlersonline.com/threads/32200-Feedback-Christmas-Event-2015?p=292958&viewfull=1#post292958

Would be interesting to know whether the people thinking they wouldn't make the achievement a few days into the event last year did or not :)

Every year people get frustrated and annoyed at this feature (it's been like this longer than just a year) and every year they wheel it out again in the same way.

Searching for collectables is not enjoyable BB (well, after the first week ever that you play and it adds a bit of depth). Making a random factor a vital part of progress (in the event chain. Held me up for 2 days. Not exactly a lifetime I know, but was it enjoyable?) is just stupid and likely to add to other frustrating factors that lose you customers eventually.

I mean come on! TSO is a very predictable game, that's it's strength; you can organise and plan and forecast (if you want) and you'll get the reward. Adding in dumb random factors (I include stupidly rare adventure loot drops) is a big negative and nobody ever enjoys it.

Urd123
19.12.16, 13:41
Every year people get frustrated and annoyed at this feature (it's been like this longer than just a year) and every year they wheel it out again in the same way.

Searching for collectables is not enjoyable BB (well, after the first week ever that you play and it adds a bit of depth). Making a random factor a vital part of progress (in the event chain. Held me up for 2 days. Not exactly a lifetime I know, but was it enjoyable?) is just stupid and likely to add to other frustrating factors that lose you customers eventually.

I mean come on! TSO is a very predictable game, that's it's strength; you can organise and plan and forecast (if you want) and you'll get the reward. Adding in dumb random factors (I include stupidly rare adventure loot drops) is a big negative and nobody ever enjoys it.

Well maybe it is all done on purpose. If we did not have the collies to be mad over - we might have more focus on the fact that there is more or less nothing to do in this event. Or the fact that the xmas adventures(scenarios ) are really really boring and meaningless. Only reason we do them is to get the prezzies. Or the fact that this event does not bring anything you can do active to get prezzies - you just sit and wait for explorers to bring. If you played long enough- you get more than you need by just sending explorers. If you are new you must be very active in trade or use money on gems to get much out of it.

But all of that does not get much attention because we are freaking out over collies :)

SnowBlizz
19.12.16, 14:04
Well maybe it is all done on purpose. If we did not have the collies to be mad over - we might have more focus on the fact that there is more or less nothing to do in this event.
Just like last year. And the year before, and...


Or the fact that the xmas adventures(scenarios ) are really really boring and meaningless.
Just like last year. And the year before, and...


Only reason we do them is to get the prezzies.
Just like any adventure really. And just like last year. And the year before, and...

Or the fact that this event does not bring anything you can do active to get prezzies - you just sit and wait for explorers to bring.
Just like last year. And the year before, and...


If you played long enough- you get more than you need by just sending explorers. If you are new you must be very active in trade or use money on gems to get much out of it.
Just like last year. And the year before, and...

Notice a trend there?

Tage
19.12.16, 14:18
13 spawns so far have given:

50 bells
132 canes
50 gingerbread

I've never missed a collectible yet during this event.
Everyone in our guild is experiencing the same uneven distribution.

Either BB's random number generator is broken, or it's unbalanced on purpose as mentioned by Kanagomi.

Thejollyone
19.12.16, 14:57
If this is not bug than im convinced that this is BB trick forcing us to use gems for achievement :)

unless I'm missing something, achievements cannot be done for gems - but if you mean the main event quest chain, they only ask for a single buff from the spawned collies, which is of course do-able and no need for any gems to be spent...

Kanagomi
19.12.16, 17:08
There are 3 achievements about "baskets of presents" (for 1, 2 and 5 baskets - together you need 125 bells, 125 canes and 125 gingerbread). You can finish them in mayor house either by collectibles or instantly using gems...

48 bells
126 canes (so now i have enough canes for all achievements)
36 gingerbread (looks very tight, or maybe not even possible without using gems - depends on "luck")

Durin_d
19.12.16, 17:29
36 gingerbread (looks very tight, or maybe not even possible without using gems - depends on "luck")

You can't get gingerbread with gems.

Also event has lasted 5 days out of 21 so with this speed you'll get ~150 gingerbread by the end of the event.

Bobblyt
19.12.16, 17:36
update - I have now had 60 bells, 78 candy canes and 26 gingerbread - definitely appears to be a shortage of gingerbread compared to the others; and last 3 spawns had 0 gingerbread

Thejollyone
19.12.16, 17:52
There are 3 achievements about "baskets of presents" (for 1, 2 and 5 baskets - together you need 125 bells, 125 canes and 125 gingerbread). You can finish them in mayor house either by collectibles or instantly using gems...

48 bells
126 canes (so now i have enough canes for all achievements)
36 gingerbread (looks very tight, or maybe not even possible without using gems - depends on "luck")

ok, but with the best intent in the world, its an event that we participate in at our leisure, you could get more with the 3 spawns a day...

what I'm saying is, is it such a dilema not to get them all? There are many other ways to get most of the stuff in the merchant.

Xmas is the most generous/least effort event that BB give us, and, given the time spent with family etc over the xmas period, I really don't want to moan at them for it :)

Rhylian
19.12.16, 17:59
Ehh no you cannot directly use gems to finish achievements BUT look at the added image tyvm.
You can basically buy any missing collectibles (to finish that present) which if you do it several times to finish the presents achievement.
Also while you cannot buy only a specific collectible for gems in the shop you can however buy them this way.

Urd123
19.12.16, 18:21
Just like last year. And the year before, and...


Just like last year. And the year before, and...

Just like any adventure really. And just like last year. And the year before, and...

Just like last year. And the year before, and...

Just like last year. And the year before, and...

Notice a trend there?

No - you might not like doing adventures - I do.
I find it extremely boring opening these scenarios and putting on buffs. The adventures does include some challenge - if not I would not be playing this game at all.

This is only my 3rd xmas event.

Shamroque
19.12.16, 22:05
Well, here is my sad collie story. Today I managed to make my first basket of presents. I am now the proud owner of 113 candy canes, 1 (yes ONE) bell and 1 (yes ONE) gingerbread.

There's no way I will make the achievements if my ratios don't change soon.

SeaBee1964
19.12.16, 23:00
I seem to be getting an average of 6 candy drops, 3 bell drops and 1 gingerbread each respawn. only managed 1 set of presents so far

Xibor
20.12.16, 00:43
I'm seeing the same pattern

Kanagomi
20.12.16, 07:19
You can't get gingerbread with gems.

ofc u can get gingerbread with gems... see hoverbox on "basket with presents" button in mayor house (collections tab) and there stands (if you have not enough gingerbread, etc) "buy the remaining items and instantly complete for xy "... yes you can buy gingerbread for gems

Jespair
20.12.16, 07:42
1. 20.12 : 16 canes 0 bells 0 bread 8 x 2
2. 20.12 : 6 canes 4 bells 0 bread 3 + 2 x2
3. 21.12 : 8 canes 0 bells 0 bread 4 x 2
4. 21.12 : 4 canes 8 bells 4 bread 2 + 4 + 2 x2
Every time I cleaned all island from collectibles

Kanagomi
20.12.16, 07:42
what I'm saying is, is it such a dilema not to get them all? There are many other ways to get most of the stuff in the merchant.


im talking about people who collect all collectibles (me also) and probably will collect all collectibles from all spawns and there is still quite big chance that you will be not able to finish achievement without using gems or TO. ofc you can say buy them (bells or gingerbread in TO)...
so first of all personally its not worth of it... 15k gc for 10 gingerbread? no way just for nice look of some stupid progress bar somewhere where i look once per year :)

other thing is that people who miss one or two days will not complete achievement without TO/gems (almost for sure)

and third thing if there is not enough gingerbread from all spawns for all people (even if all people catch all collectibles in event) then there will be always shortage in TO

simply it is about Pigeonhole principle... so some people will be lucky and complete their achievement, some people will buy missing items in TO and complete achievement too and the rest leads to 2 options 1st miss achievement or 2nd use gems in mayor house (what makes better availability of gingerbread in TO)... so some people have no other way for this quest except using these 2 options (use gems, miss achievement), even if they catch all spawns and all collectibles (and probably even if we all catch all spawns and all collectibles)

more exactly if you have 3 children and two breads then there is always one child without bread... using TO or not does not make diff (does not create any new bread)... only way is to give up (miss achievement)= this creates new situation -> if 1 child give up then you have 2 breads for 2 children or you can use gems what leads to the same...

Shamroque
20.12.16, 08:58
Oh c'mon BB, this is riduculous! I only got 2 xmas collies out of 30 with this morning's spawn. Both candy canes!

Did you actually plan it this way then?

Teardrop46
20.12.16, 10:32
i managed a total of 6 Christmas collectables out of 29 today Hubby got 4 out of 29 .... first set today.

Urd123
20.12.16, 11:36
could it be an idea to marge all of the I think 3 treads on this topic.
We have one on shortage of bells, one of shortage of gingerbread, one of the problem of too few xmas collies dropping.

And maybe an official message then of how BB meant it to work.

I think we have it clear that we should get an average of 9-10 findings of xmas collie each time they spawn.

Are the 3 kinds to be equal likely to find ? - yes or no
Right now they are clearly not - my guess from own and guild members findings is, that about 3 times more likely for a collie to be a cane than Gingerbread or Bell.

If this is not how it was meant to be - are BB fixing it any time soon ?

BB_Saqui
20.12.16, 12:12
could it be an idea to marge all of the I think 3 treads on this topic.
We have one on shortage of bells, one of shortage of gingerbread, one of the problem of too few xmas collies dropping.

We'll be keeping the threads separate for the time being, as it's a good way to identify players with specific shortages. They may be merged however once the investigation is over.


If this is not how it was meant to be - are BB fixing it any time soon ?

With the new data gathered over the weekend, we're again investigating this issue. You can aid us by updating any of the relevant threads with your running total of Christmas collectibles e.g. "have XX Candy Canes, XX Gingerbread, XX Bells".

Urd123
20.12.16, 12:19
We'll be keeping the threads separate for the time being, as it's a good way to identify players with specific shortages. They may be merged however once the investigation is over.



With the new data gathered over the weekend, we're again investigating this issue. You can aid us by updating any of the relevant threads with your running total of Christmas collectibles e.g. "have XX Candy Canes, XX Gingerbread, XX Bells".

Thank you :)

Bobblyt
20.12.16, 13:43
bells = 64
canes = 88
gingerbread = 28
had 3 spawns with 0 gingerbread

TabulaRasa
20.12.16, 14:45
my numbers (from day one to today):
bells = 82
canes = 112
ginger = 34

Durin_d
20.12.16, 17:09
I have to post a different type of collectible numbers

Bells: 82
Candy Canes: 90
Gingerbread: 104

Bobblyt
20.12.16, 19:53
after the latest spawn of collectibles
bells = 66
canes = 94
ginger = 28
another spawn with 0 gingerbread

Matilda_6
20.12.16, 19:54
my numbers from day one to today, still waiting to make a basket of presents :(
bells = 23
canes = 109
ginger =22

Matilda_6
20.12.16, 19:55
my numbers from day one to today, still waiting to make a basket of presents
bells = 23
canes = 109
ginger = 22

Alsh
20.12.16, 21:16
To date:

Bells- 58
Canes- 104
GBread- 50

Though I've missed a few so it's not a precise figure but a fair approximation. I am certain previous Christmas events also had unbalanced spawns, however- I don't recall them being quite this imbalanced.

Kanagomi
20.12.16, 23:14
62 bells
168 candy canes
44 gingerbread

Kanagomi
20.12.16, 23:16
I have to post a different type of collectible numbers

Bells: 82
Candy Canes: 90
Gingerbread: 104

lucky you... you are one of the few as you can see according to TO ;)

Bolek
20.12.16, 23:33
My collections so far:
bells - 36
canes - 66
ginger - 42

MrLecti
21.12.16, 00:44
my numbers from day one to today, still waiting to make a basket of presents
bells = 23
canes = 109
ginger = 22

Doing slightly better, but about the same ratio...

NicciNZ
21.12.16, 04:54
99 bells
133 candy canes
92 ginger

that said i've been able to grab every spawn many cannot

halv12
21.12.16, 06:16
62 bells
168 candy canes
44 gingerbread

then you are on a good way to make the 5 baskets before end of event - 21 days to collect 125 items = 6 per day - we just started day 7 - so anything over 36 of any item is good :)

TheVictorious
21.12.16, 07:22
From first day
104 Candy Canes,
56 Gingerbread,
80 Bells

And got a lot of spawns without any Gingerbread.

Kanagomi
21.12.16, 07:53
then you are on a good way to make the 5 baskets before end of event - 21 days to collect 125 items = 6 per day - we just started day 7 - so anything over 36 of any item is good :)

or even better i can swap some canes for gingerbread with durin ;) 1:1 should be fair :)

Rosejane
21.12.16, 11:48
48 bells, 112 canes, 64 gingerbread - exchanged bells for gingerbread twice to get 2 present baskets. Now 6/62/6.

lordloocan
21.12.16, 11:50
This morning, 30 collects of which 8 were Xmas type. 6 of the 8 were candy, 2 were ginger, zero bells again. Have asked in guild and no-one is getting enough ginger or bells.

knau
21.12.16, 12:01
i have 107 candy stick!! 22 bell 29 ginger! how am i supose to make presents???

geezer123
21.12.16, 13:23
I often manage 3 spawns a day: 60 bell/134 canes/66 ginger.

BB_Saqui
21.12.16, 13:29
Now that we have sufficient data, I've decided to merge the three open threads. Please keep updates regarding the Christmas collectibles to this thread only, as additional threads will be moderated.

Mortallicus
21.12.16, 19:13
I traded one for one in TO to make the first basket.
I managed to make one more a couple of days ago without any trading.
I have two Collectible Quests a day and I use the Fairy Buff.
i have 12 Bells, 78 candy cane and 29 gingerbread

There is good news though I have found more banners than I have for a very long time :)

Ynita
21.12.16, 20:10
My numbers:

http://image.prntscr.com/image/b4ae9fe3feff435f8dd01b7f0c7a26bb.png

I started the event late, and this is the result of 5 collectible spawns. I was lucky enough to get 10/29 gingerbread this evening. *hides

lordloocan
21.12.16, 21:35
This morning, 30 collects of which 8 were Xmas type. 6 of the 8 were candy, 2 were ginger, zero bells again. Have asked in guild and no-one is getting enough ginger or bells.

And 2nd spawn was 29 collects with just 7 Xmas ones. 3/7 ginger, 2/7 candy, 2/7 bells.

Still only averaging 7.4 Xmas collects per spawn too btw.

jonno697
22.12.16, 07:27
haven't had bells now for last 3 days,so not certain how going to make presents and get achievements. Only got 5 collectibles today,candy and gingerbread.

Bobblyt
22.12.16, 07:43
my latest numbers
bells = 76
candy = 142
ginger = 42
been collecting 2 spawns a day and have managed to find every collectible

Kanagomi
22.12.16, 11:24
80 bells
196 candies
58 gingerbread

LeBeuf
22.12.16, 20:10
Today i collected 8 x Candy Canes and 1 Gingerbread. The latest 4 days it's been up and down with these two but the main thing is, i got absolutely NO Christmas Bells at all.. Cant even finish the "Bells, Candy and Gingerbread" quest because the lack of Bells.. :mad:

Kanagomi
22.12.16, 22:47
82 bells
208 canes
60 gingerbread

Hussar1683
23.12.16, 00:44
So far i did ONE basket. So its 25 each plus...

15 bells
121 candys
27 ginger

Yeah, balance is totaly fine...

Kanagomi
23.12.16, 07:32
90 bells
218 canes
60 gingerbread

lordloocan
23.12.16, 12:28
Today i collected 8 x Candy Canes and 1 Gingerbread. The latest 4 days it's been up and down with these two but the main thing is, i got absolutely NO Christmas Bells at all.. Cant even finish the "Bells, Candy and Gingerbread" quest because the lack of Bells.. :mad:

No-one in guild able to trade you some bells?

Areop-Enap
24.12.16, 06:29
Currently making 5th basket of presents for Santa's Right Hand achievement, got 0 bells, 0 gingerbread and 125 candy canes left in storehouse. I did a bit of trading in the saner department of the TO tho :)

//Rest of what spawns now will go to help guildies in need\\

Urd123
25.12.16, 16:22
the same ratio I seem to have had - have made the 5th - bought around 25 bells 25 gingerbread in TO have 11 bells 121 canes and 2 gingerbread left.

Now xmas is over no sign at all BB is going to make up for this. what about selling some bells and gingerbread in merchant for canes?

I feel I can see into the future and see another event out of more like it- where we all just get all of the ach in the end, because BB messed up so something :p

Zotamedu
26.12.16, 00:41
So far I have found:
Bells: 122
Candy Cane: 256
Gingerbread: 82

So that's over half of the collectables being candy canes so once again the devs show that they can't do basic maths.

If the current drop rate of gingerbread keeps up I will probably be able to make the five baskets. I will also have over 300 candy canes left over that can't be used for anything.

halv12
26.12.16, 07:20
300 candy canes will be converted to 12 coins :)

AfSettler
26.12.16, 16:38
300 candy canes will be converted to 12 coins :)

so candy can be nice.

Jesh
26.12.16, 22:42
produced 2 baskets of presents so far.
current numbers 200 canes, 59 bells, 28 ginger. ALL of Todays Current collectibles included

Dutchky
28.12.16, 07:58
I have logged in all days of the event and I have now 16 gingerbread lol.
An adult man looking for tiny items on a map that the developpers can not get right.
I keep amazing myself that I even do that haha

sparkies2013
28.12.16, 15:18
I have managed to do three presents from the collectables. That too after logging on everyday.

sparkies2013
28.12.16, 15:21
Oh, why can't our bakers make it, on the island? Find ginger on an adventure, mix that in with water, wheat and use barrels (break them down to form moulds).. Hey presto... gingerbread!

Xinthus
28.12.16, 19:46
This morning, 30 collects of which 8 were Xmas type. 6 of the 8 were candy, 2 were ginger, zero bells again. Have asked in guild and no-one is getting enough ginger or bells.

Yep me and my guild are experiencing the same, Masses of Candy canes very few Bells, be lucky sometimes to get 1 bell spawn per refresh, almost certain for at least 1 ginger, but bells are like Gold dust, but hey ive a terrible (being polite) load of Candy Canes

I Strongly doubt ill ever collect enough bells to complete the achievement of making 5 baskets of presents, im fortunate to have made 3 so far, yet waiting on another 9 bells to make another basket of presents, candy canes are in excess of 64 right now to make me 2 more baskets terrible spawn rates %ages are just plain awful per ratio of item.

Ex:- Christmas Bells 1% Gingerbread 10% Candy Canes 89%

out of every event ive taken part in this is the WORST spawn rate of items needed to complete the achievements, and yet there is nothing we can do about it.

Larili
03.01.17, 10:45
I kept quiet over the spawning rate to see how it panned out over the whole event. I had to finish the achievement via TO as both bells and gingerbread were no where near enough ( two and a half baskets short as of yesterday ) . Then I get 7, yes 7 gingerbread finds in one spawn this morning after only getting a max of two ( mostly one ) for every spawn I could collect ( 2 per day ) through out the event. A fix ? If it is , its a little too late with one day to go !!
My conclusion is this was not well implemented at code level, I hope the devs learn the lesson ;)

Sharpielein
03.01.17, 16:00
Thanks for the free 50 of each.
Now I have 57 bells, 291 candy canes and 51 gingerbread. Still a bit inequal.


Keeping these out, I got a total of 132 bells, 366 candy canes and 126 gingerbread from the collectibles.
Aside from random variation, that's about 3x as many canes as the other two, or 50% more canes than the others COMBINED.

And the oddest part: In previous years, there never was an issue.

This isn't the first time you guys messed up a festive event with your random generator.
Do you guys use a test framework? Do you even learn from failure?