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I did a nords, and received 35763 experience points, and also 31 star coins.
EVERY individual camp was killed with a star skilled general, which was also a fast learner, hence the 35k experience.
I even killed the dogs. No camp was missed out and no leader was killed unless every camp in sector was killed first.
So why is there only 31 star coins?
Can someone tell me what i'm missing thanks.
I have retained every battle report and the loot mail.
EasyTarget1
18.05.17, 06:03
Sounds like the star coin skill is applied b4 the xp skill, pity that.
Only a guess - but could be rounding - how many different generals did you use ? - could be rounding by general or by camp.
Calculating star coins will not be done by taking 1/1000 of gained XP - but must somehow be done by camp or by general.
EasyTarget1
18.05.17, 07:50
Bounty Hunter
After completing an adventure, gain 1 star coin for every 1,000 XP worth of enemies defeated by this army.
So I guess it's calculated after every camp, hence not stacking.
I have retained every battle report and the loot mail.
Could you post the screenshots here? Thanks!
Tried on testserver - 2 MMA's and Nusala - gave 36 + 36 star coins.
http://imgur.com/vIssAoV
hmm
Two moma and a nusala, at least thats encouraging, i used only two fully skilled generals, a major and a moma. Would also appear to negate easytarget1's hypothesis.
Thanks for that Ammok - has anyone else ran into a similar scenario where the numbers don't match up?
Looks like i'm bugged.
http://i.imgur.com/VRtseYT.png
Major used to kill every single camp, none overlooked, I'm being swindled. Help!!!
Looks like i'm bugged.
http://i.imgur.com/VRtseYT.png
Major used to kill every single camp, none overlooked, I'm being swindled. Help!!!
I'm going to need you to contact our Support team - make sure to include the screenshots you've posted here.
Done that, they replied experience only given for camps killed by star coin general. I have responded ALL experience points were gained with a star general.
However, more puzzlement, could it be the adventures that are bugged?
http://i.imgur.com/aVddP22.png
Same generals, same modus operandi, FULL COINS!!!
Got no idea why this is happening only on the bigger adventures, I did a Bastille, also got 8k xp and 8 stars
Adventures completed with star coins generals, all camps killed individually
arctic xp 17.7k Stars 18 correct and expected
bandit xp 12.5k Stars 13 correct and expected
bastille xp 8.7k Stars 8, unsure was expecting 10k experience since wiki says 7k xp, and only 50 xp for collecting invasion plans
woodcutter xp 182k Stars 109 not correct,183 expected
nords xp 35.7k Stars 31 not correct, 36 expected
LordofEverything
19.05.17, 18:49
I have 2 MGs, 2 MMAs and Vargus, all fully booked using Fast Learner and Bounty Hunter
I did a Woodcutter, got 77 star coins
Then I did 3rd Thief, got 170 star coins
Then I did another 3rd Thief, got 77 star coins
Then either 3rd Thief or Woodcutter, again 77 star coins
And a Woodcutter, again 77 star coins
Then a Valiant Little Tailor, 4 star coins (yes, 4 star coins)
In Woodcutter, I follow the Wiki guide for MG+MMA+Vargus
In 3rd Thief, I follow the Wiki guide for MG+Vargus
In VLT, I followed the Wiki guide for MG+MMA+Cannoneers (guide that used 740LB / 701M). I used an MMA on first wave attacks of 200B or 200LB instead of using a normal 200 gen. Likewise, I used Vargus for one or two first wave attacks with R. As I only have 5 fully booked gens, I waited for the MMAs to recover instead of using other gens. So all main attacks were done with fully booked gens. And as I have other (real life) things to do, I started yesterday, finished this afternon.
But why only 4 star coins for the VLT??
you need to kill every single camp individually, blocks do not count, and if you kill leader with camps still standing, those camps do not count.
Plus bounty hunter or the adventure is bugged i suspect.
Got 3 generals with star coins skill.
The skill says its 1 coin per 1000 exp worth of enemies defeated. Finished Valiant Little Tailor killing only with those 3 Gens, received over 90 000 of exp and ...only 3 star coins.
I suppose that is camp was worth lets say 3 200 exp, then general will get only 3 coins for it, but still with roughly calculation that should be around 70-80 coins per adv. On test server I was getting about 87 if I remember correctly.
I will stress once again, all kills including suicide waves were done only with star skilled generals.
Something is really off here.
Then a Valiant Little Tailor, 4 star coins (yes, 4 star coins)
Just did VLT, got 3 :D
Thats a major disappointment lol
LordofEverything
20.05.17, 19:58
I've just done another 3rd thief - 198k xp, 6 star coins
there is definitely something wrong with the system .....
http://www.retroville.co.uk/photos/1000/thirdthief20-05-17.png
I returned to home island before sending final attack - could that have anything to do with it?
Well i did some experimenting
I redone a nords which gave me 31 stars for 36k xp first time. This time used two star generals and killed alternate camps, got 36 stars for 36k xp.
Did either of you only use one star general?
I used a single star general on YWC and only got 109 stars instead of 182. Same on first nords. Both gave me less stars.
As for leaving island, that is a possible culprit, i left the YWC a couple of times.
TheVictorious
20.05.17, 22:00
Got 3 generals with star coins skill.
The skill says its 1 coin per 1000 exp worth of enemies defeated. Finished Valiant Little Tailor killing only with those 3 Gens, received over 90 000 of exp and ...only 3 star coins.
I suppose that is camp was worth lets say 3 200 exp, then general will get only 3 coins for it, but still with roughly calculation that should be around 70-80 coins per adv. On test server I was getting about 87 if I remember correctly.
I will stress once again, all kills including suicide waves were done only with star skilled generals.
Something is really off here.
I believe you get star coins for the EXP that you gain from that general, not the overall EXP that you gain from adv.
TheVictorious
20.05.17, 22:06
I've just done another 3rd thief - 198k xp, 6 star coins
there is definitely something wrong with the system .....
http://www.retroville.co.uk/photos/1000/thirdthief20-05-17.png
I returned to home island before sending final attack - could that have anything to do with it?
The EXP that calculated is only the troops killed by that general, any camps blocked or skipped, will not be counted.
gain 1 star coin for every 1.000 experience worth of enemies defeated by this army
As I said, I used only 3 generals during whole adventure, all had star coins mastery. There wasnt even 1 camp killed by other general, so overall I should get star coins for all camps.
TheVictorious
21.05.17, 08:05
As I said, I used only 3 generals during whole adventure, all had star coins mastery. There wasnt even 1 camp killed by other general, so overall I should get star coins for all camps.
May you see this thread? : http://forum.thesettlersonline.com/threads/34831-Star-coins-dont-stack-up
Second YWC.
Used two star generals, a moma and a major.
I made sure each general killed at least one camp in each sector.
Every individual camp cleared in every sector.
NO DOUBLE KILLS i suspect interceptions counted as blocks.
and result is
http://i.imgur.com/6x454kB.png
so i have managed to go up from 109 coins to 154, no idea where the missing 28 stars have gone.
I shall try another one, one major, no other general involved. See if goes back to 109 or what.
Finally, 182 star coins from woodcutter third attempt.
Use a single star general
Kill each camp in single attack
Interceptions are counted as blocks, kill each camp individually, or lose the stars
Suicide waves are counted as zero experience for stars, additionally, if the general has previously gained experience, you lose all his stars if you suicide him.
So one wave attacks using only one star general will gain you 182 stars if you kill every camp.
Im off to try two generals, but no suicides, so good luck people, bounty hunter only works if you know how it counts.
LordofEverything
23.05.17, 08:22
The EXP that calculated is only the troops killed by that general, any camps blocked or skipped, will not be counted.
2 MGs and Vargus, all with 21 books including 3 in Fast Learner and 1 in Bounty Hunter
All kills were done by these 3 generals - that's a lot of kills
I do the same on every 3rd thief with the same fully booked generals - I've had 170 / 77 / 59 / 6 star coins
Do you think there is no bug in the system?
TheVictorious
23.05.17, 10:17
2 MGs and Vargus, all with 21 books including 3 in Fast Learner and 1 in Bounty Hunter
All kills were done by these 3 generals - that's a lot of kills
I do the same on every 3rd thief with the same fully booked generals - I've had 170 / 77 / 59 / 6 star coins
Do you think there is no bug in the system?
I'm not saying there is bug or not, but you counted whole 198k xp, while you must count the exp you get from the camps that you kill using generals, any camps you skip or block, you get EXP of them but not star.
Just double check! also, could be bug, but it is misleading if you report that bug like what you did, only count the camps that you directly killed using that general, then see how many stars you got.
http://i.imgur.com/dimmA4B.png
http://i.imgur.com/FihBwDZ.png
http://i.imgur.com/EfoESuZ.png
I'm not saying there is bug or not, but you counted whole 198k xp, while you must count the exp you get from the camps that you kill using generals, any camps you skip or block, you get EXP of them but not star.
Just double check! also, could be bug, but it is misleading if you report that bug like what you did, only count the camps that you directly killed using that general, then see how many stars you got.
You are missing the point, Lord said he ran the same adventure 4 times the same way and got 4 different rewards.
LordofEverything
23.05.17, 21:57
I'm not saying there is bug or not, but you counted whole 198k xp, while you must count the exp you get from the camps that you kill using generals, any camps you skip or block, you get EXP of them but not star.
Just double check! also, could be bug, but it is misleading if you report that bug like what you did, only count the camps that you directly killed using that general, then see how many stars you got.
there are only 2 blocks on VLT - 23 camps killed, only 2 camps blocked - yet only 4 star coins
23 camps killed with gens fully booked with Bounty Hunter must be worth more than 4000xp and 4 star coins
then on all the 3rd thief, same camps killed each time, but the number of star coins has not been the same each time
likewise on woodcutter - same camps killed each time, but the number of star coins is not the same each time
there is very clearly a bug in the system
it could be resetting when we return to our home island - i normally return to my home island about halfway through a woodcutter and several times in VLT (and always before final attacks on RR)
LordofEverything
23.05.17, 22:01
Ammok - with that woody, did you kill every camp or did you do blocks?
did you return to your home island during the adventure?
Killed every camp.
And it is not the returning home exactly that reduces your coins.
BUT i do know what does reduce your coins, even to zero coins.
I did a Surprise last night, usually get 55 coins, but this i left it overnight, 12 COINS!!!
Star counter resets the longer you are away from keyboard, CONCLUSIVE PROOF.
Thanks for the additional reports guys. We're looking into this right now!
LordofEverything
24.05.17, 12:22
I just did VLT again
Normally I return to my home island before I kill the final camp - in the last 2 VLTs, I got only 4 star coins
This time, I stayed on the island throughout sector 4 - I didn't return to my home island. I got 20 star coins. Screenshot below.
I have already suggested to support that the count is resetting if we return to our home island .....
http://www.retroville.co.uk/photos/1000/vltnoreturnduringsector4.png
Thanks for investigating Lord - I'm sure it'll come in handy!
Did some more experiments and can correct some previous comments.
You can leave adventure multiple times for short periods and not lose star coins. I suspect if you log out you will lose star coins. Perhaps that what happened to you lordofeverything.
You can use multiple kills (interceptions) and not lose star coins.
Both these amendments are for one adventure started and finished in one run, no log outs.
So quick quick scurry scurry appears to be good workaround until a fix is arranged, and this may be some time. Good Luck Bounty Hunters :)
Thanks Ammok for the extra info! :)
I just did VLT again
Normally I return to my home island before I kill the final camp - in the last 2 VLTs, I got only 4 star coins
This time, I stayed on the island throughout sector 4 - I didn't return to my home island. I got 20 star coins. Screenshot below.
I have already suggested to support that the count is resetting if we return to our home island .....
http://www.retroville.co.uk/photos/1000/vltnoreturnduringsector4.png
i changed map sevrel times and got the same amount
Its not the change map problem. when you log out and log in again the star coins counter resets.
when i play VLT i log out before i kill the king because i need 2 w8 2h for nysula to heal. I always get 1 star coin.
Today I left the game running and in the ls i got 33 star coins
Yes it is log out that resets stars, you log out game you lose the stars.
Bounty Hunter Skill is bugged as hell.
At first I had just 1 general with this skill, and got 60 starcoins for a woodcutter (plus 30 premium). This went on for a few days, later on I skilled my second MG with this skill, instead of getting more starcoins i started getting less. And while I Always use the same generals for the same camps, the amount of starcoins differs per adventureloot. Top was 91 starcoins, lowest was just 31 starcoins.
Got a question about this skill to: When you attack the leader, while there are still other camps in that sector, those camps are won as soon as you defeat the leader, do you also get the starcoins for the xp in those camps?
Got a question about this skill to: When you attack the leader, while there are still other camps in that sector, those camps are won as soon as you defeat the leader, do you also get the starcoins for the xp in those camps?
You only benefit from the camps you manually attack, not from the camps that disappear once the leader is beaten.
Top was 91 starcoins, lowest was just 31 starcoins.
I get 182 star coin from every woodcutter. This is how i do this, these are Ammok rules, they may work for you too,
Rule One. Never LOG OUT once you start adventure, if you do you lose your stars for any camps killed to that point.
Rule Two. You must only useSTAR general(s) and he(they) must kill every single camp. Miss any and they do not count for stars.
Rule Three. Never BLOCK, blocked camps do not count for stars.
Rule Four. Never kill a LEADER, if there are any camps still in sector. If you do you will not gain any stars for those camps.
Rule Five. Do not START an adventure, unless you are pretty sure you can complete in a straight run through. Remember Rule One.
Good luck DutchDuty, and good luck bounty hunting.
PS all my star generals are also fast learners, hence the 182 coin from 182 xp, no prem.
Thanks, Ammok - you can use this while we investigate the issue.
Herr_Pannenkoek
31.05.17, 22:29
As Ammok said, the Star Coin counter seems to reset if you spend too long time on the adventures or log out. I can confirm that. If I do a VLT (or a similar longer adventure) in two days and log out several times while playing it, I receive no more than 3-5 Star Coins (which come from the few final camps I do while trying to get loot spot buyers). However, when I do a SA in one run without logging out, I receive the full amount.
This should be investigated thoroughly and fixed asap. Just drop the coins into star menu like recruits if the problem is too difficult to fix.
This bug is driving me crazy. allredy lost like 2k of starcoins because it. And yes refreshing game or spending to much time in adv seems to reset starcoin count. But as game likes to crash so much... its impossible to always keep it online while doing adv..
Should not be big thing to correct this bug.. but well u never know..
Yes it is log out that resets stars, you log out game you lose the stars.
Log out or leaving adv for 15min so it gets "stored" and then reloaded causes this problem. So if u dont leave adv or dont leave it fro 15 or more minutes or dont reload game u dont lose starcoins.. but i would like to see tso not crashing while doing some big adv or bouncing from adv to island and back...
But as game likes to crash so much...
Have you tried clearing your browser cache, or trying a different browser to see if they still occur?
Herr_Pannenkoek
01.06.17, 20:13
Have you tried clearing your browser cache, or trying a different browser to see if they still occur?
The crashing problem is more about letting TSO run too long in an inactive tab or window. Also Flash may crash occasionally. Not very often for me, but still it's quite annoying to lose star coins if it happens. However, perhaps this problem will be sorted out faster by sorting it out, rather than fixing random crash problems which are probably very browser/flash/OS dependant.
And remember if you are selling a lootspot, like on second thief, you may lose the coins before the kill is made, just a point to consider.
I'm trying to do only single player, which is getting boring, it is just an awful lot of books to lose to re-skill and get rid of it.
I use executable to play.. so not a browser thingy.
I somehow doubt it has to do with logging off....
Why???
Well, a week ago I couldnt get my generals loaded properly to go back at the end of the adventure, all attacks where done when I frustrated relogged, after logging back in I loaded my generals and finished the adventure, so no kills made after returning into the game, yet I got 34 starcoins....
Few days back i did a woodcutter and stayed ingame the whole adventure, however instead of receiving the 96 star coins i should get, I just 54 star coins, and I really didnt log off or in again during that adventure...
So thats why I believe its not just a log out/ log in problem.
Greetings DD.
I somehow doubt it has to do with logging off....
Why???
Well, a week ago I couldnt get my generals loaded properly to go back at the end of the adventure, all attacks where done when I frustrated relogged, after logging back in I loaded my generals and finished the adventure, so no kills made after returning into the game, yet I got 34 starcoins....
Few days back i did a woodcutter and stayed ingame the whole adventure, however instead of receiving the 96 star coins i should get, I just 54 star coins, and I really didnt log off or in again during that adventure...
So thats why I believe its not just a log out/ log in problem.
Greetings DD.
Can you go through the actions of what you did during the adventure - anything out of the ordinary?
I just did an ls on a mates VLT.
Only the king was left in the palace, which my mate told me to kill. That was the only attack I did, using a general with bounty hunter skill.
In my loot mail I got 4995 XP but only 1 star coin?? I didn't leave the adv or logout.
Just a quick confirmation regarding this:
A cause of this issue resides in the adventure zone being inactive for more than 30 minutes. Do not leave the adventure zone until you finish it. You may leave it briefly just to get reinforcements. Please note that the shutdown of the adventure zone will happen when no one visits the adventure for 30 minutes.
Thanks for being patient in the meantime!
Rorschah - you get XP for 2 more camps ( at least they will usually not be defeated ) and for king - but star coins only for king
Rorschah - you get XP for 2 more camps ( at least they will usually not be defeated ) and for king - but star coins only for king
Thanks, was forgetting gen bypassed camps :)
Mannerheim
14.06.17, 15:53
Today at test server: Skill: Fixed an issue with persistence of XP used for "Bounty Hunter"
Today at test server: Skill: Fixed an issue with persistence of XP used for "Bounty Hunter"
Yep - it shouldn't be long now!
Can't come soon enough for me, wasting all those spots goes against the grain.
Can't come soon enough for me, wasting all those spots goes against the grain.
Just a little bit longer :P.
Maddonious
28.07.18, 23:31
Have added to this topic, so hope it is still being looked at by BB staff.
The star coins I get do not seem to reflect the XP as it should, attached please find screenshot of adventure rewards - for this adventure I only use MMA for battles, which has the skill "Star Coin" researched but the coins never seem to tally up with the XP so could someone from BB please advise as to how I remedy this?
https://prnt.sc/kc9brx
https://prnt.sc/kc9brx
Many thanks in advance,
Madd.
As far as I know you only get Star Coins for camps actually defeated - camps going down when defeating leader dont give star coins.
As far as I know you only get Star Coins for camps actually defeated - camps going down when defeating leader dont give star coins.
Correct.
It also looks at the camps themselves. If you defeat a camp at 999 XP you get 0 starcoins. If you defeat two camps at 999 you get zilch.
Ran some test on this on testserver, though that is some time ago now. (With the lvl75 boost on test was a bit hard to tell though)
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