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These guides are for trying to find lowest troop loss without using med pack or waiting for general to revive.
Inspiration from Microclimat for some blocks.
Thanks also goes to Coronna and Evil_j for inspiration.
Big thanks to [ANGEL]Lerina for testing and ideas
Thanks also to everyone in [3B] who helped me reached the point i am at today.
Hello goes out to everyone in global and everyone else i know:)
First guide i make so pointers,comments, suggestions, improvements (especially garrison placements) are more than welcome.
Generals are skilled the same for all adventures.
MMA
https://image.prntscr.com/image/LHASt6EWRQulZLDQh_LYZg.png
Nusala
https://image.prntscr.com/image/4p_yfZQlTtql8kbo0BLTXg.png
Vargus,Anslem
https://image.prntscr.com/image/J0qOL7ziQ76TF2DTMpJDBw.png
Major
https://image.prntscr.com/image/Amehk5eZTdCSU6qV0rRNbQ.png
Tavern
1-up and not confident leader other than that it doesnt matter althou you might want to avoid juggernaut (guides are done with jugernaut thou)
They save alot of troops but in return they do cost alot of generals:)
Ali Baba, The Young Wood Cutter (https://forum.thesettlersonline.com/threads/35386-Ilyria64-s-concept-guides-for-low-troop-costs?p=336460&viewfull=1#post336460)
Ali Baba, The Young Wood Cutter
Changed kill generals after information from Kris3457. Thank you:)
ALL GENERALS ARE SENT AFTER DRUMS IF NOT OTHERWISE STATED!!!!
IMPORTANT! you can replace 2 fast general with 1 tavern general and vice versa.
However you will need 5 tavern generals amd 1 fast general for the last block
All generals have first aid and losses are stated after kickbacks
TESTED LOSSES: 515 R, 5 S, 47 MS
TROOPS NEEDED: 6S, 564MS, 30K, 79AM, 490 MM, 574R
Generals needed
14xMMA,1xVETERAN,17xFAST,10xTAVERN,2xNUSALA,1xVARG US,1xANSLEM,1xMAJOR
(551 MS, 484 MM, 452 R, 5 B, 90 AM, 8 S, 1 K, 1 M)
STAGE 1
https://image.prntscr.com/image/x_kUljUyTIW2ZeGerr9E4A.png
https://prnt.sc/gy25yq
G1= Tavern General 195 MS
G2= Major General 285 MM
G3-G6= MMA 1 MM
G7= Veteran General 250 R
G8= Fast General 200 R
G9= Vargus 195 MM
G1 to C1 *BLOCK*
G2 to C2 when G1 reaches circle 1 *BLOCK*
G3,G4,G5,G6,G7,G8,G9 to L1 when G2 reaches circle 2 *KILL* These you can send as faster than drums if you like
(LOSSES 409 R, 4xMMA,1xFAST,1xVET)
STAGE 2
https://image.prntscr.com/image/kDqzg1EoQOis6odGLwfV-w.png
https://prnt.sc/gy278z
G1-G2= Tavern General 1 R
G3= Fast General 1 R
G4= Tavern General 189 MS
G5= Tavern General 194 MS 4 B
G6= Tavern General 167 MS 33 AM
G7= Anslem 3 S 14 MS 148 MM
G1-G4 to C3 *BLOCK*
G5 to C4 when G1 reaches circle 1 *BLOCK*
G6 to C5 *BLOCK
G7 to L2 *KILL*
(LOSSES 2 S 13 MS,2xTAV,1xFAST)
STAGE 3
https://image.prntscr.com/image/GJ2rGURiSmKV7F-5xGfEjw.png
https://prnt.sc/gy27y3
G1-G7= Fast General 1 MM
G8= Tavern General 1 MM
G9= Tavern General 144 MS 11 AM
G10= Major General 285 MM
G11= Anslem 1 S 20 MS 79 AM 65 MM
G1-G8 to C6 *BLOCK*
G9 to C7 when G1 reaches circle 1 *BLOCK*
G10 to C8 *KILL*
G11 to L3 *KILL*
(LOSSES 1 S 17 MS,7xFAST,1xTAV)
STAGE 4
https://image.prntscr.com/image/Q4PgX8WYSKOFQE9Z2M4mew.png
https://prnt.sc/gy4c48
G1-G4= Fast General 1 MM
G5= Anslem 2 S 19 MS 144 MM
G1-G4 to C9 *BLOCK*
G5 to L4 when G1 reaches circle 1 *kill*
(LOSSES 2 S 16 MS, 4xFAST)
STAGE 5
https://image.prntscr.com/image/hLa-t7mJTbWueGC0kTIHJA.png
https://prnt.sc/gyrm06
G1= Nusala 1 MM
G2-G7= MMA 1 MM
G8-G11= Fast General 1 R
G12= Tavern General 162 MS 37 AM
G13= Anslem 1 S 2 MS 162 MM
G1-G7 to L5
G8-G11 to C10 *BLOCK*
G12 to C10 when last general from G8-G11 batch reaches circle 1
G13 to L5 when last general from G1-G7 batch reaches circle 2
(LOSSES 1 MS,1xNUS,6xMMA,4xFAST)
STAGE 6
https://image.prntscr.com/image/agfo_nM2TMqRv3QJjAgA-Q.png
https://prnt.sc/gyrmem
G1= Tavern General 1 r *BLOCK* (Use a 1-up tavern general since you will use the same spot in next block)
G2= MMA 220 MM
G1 to C11
G2 to C12 when G1 reaches circle 1
(LOSSES 1xTAV)
STAGE 7
https://image.prntscr.com/image/CLaklJGxTGezZwBLprKiWA.png
https://prnt.sc/gyrmtu
Block is risky. For more secure block move mma,anslem,major one step back and place 1 fast to the right of G4. Send that general after G2.
Continue as picture indicates. Important is anslem and major should attack final camp next to last and last. However the C11 block is not long enough for
you to wait with major and anslem so its risky. (It works thou)
G1-G2= Tavern General 1 R
G3= Tavern General 194 MS
G4= Tavern General 1 R
G5= Tavern General 127 MS 29 K 37 AM
G6= Major General 1 AM 284 MM
G7= Anslem 117 R
G8-G10= MMA 1 MM
G11= Tavern General 150 MS 40 AM
G12= MMA 1 MM
G13= Nusala 1 MM
G14= Vargus 1 MM
(LOSSES 106 R,3xTAV,Anslem,Vargus,Nus,4xMMA)
Definitely not my style :)
Anyway, all those Leader attacks are normal camps, so 250 Hit points, MMA or better destroys them in 1 round (10 seconds), so adding all those 1K 1AM 1B ... to your Anslem doesn't change anything. And Major (final attack) needs only 284MM + 1AM or 1B to make it 10 seconds destruction
Brotherjon
18.10.17, 07:56
Wow, looks very complicated, not my style either but each to their own. Would rather go with wiki guide, simple attack runs, keep blocking gens loaded with same troops and run ywc in batches. Can easily memorise after a few completions. Thanks for posting anyway though, nice to see how other approach it!
It's a concept guide. As in proof of concept:) i only made it in order to see what the lowest barrack train time (4h15m without buff) for replacement is and i came up with this. Not even i can play this guide since i don't have the generals:P
Personally i use coronnas with a few troop adjustments.
I challenged you Ilyria and you did well.
Congratz on finding lowest losses and fastest building time
Personally I use first to sectors wich free my 8x MMA to use on other att.
thats what i think is the nice things with guides. You take what you need and what fits your playing style and scrap the rest :)
noxidjkram
29.10.17, 17:04
Looks good. Stage 4/5 looks like would be simpler, quicker and same losses to use Evil J's troop positions and blocking for single attack?
quicker and simpler most certanly but it would cost 54 MS while mine cost 2 S 17 MS. Ofcourse like you said it would take awhile. I have done a simplified version that only cost 38 MS (not including kickbacks) speed is increased and general cost is lowered so it even itself out for me anyway :)
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