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TiuBean
15.01.18, 15:46
Hi Blue Byte, I made a guide with General Mary, and it looks like the Skill Fast Leaner is not working.


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hades8840
15.01.18, 16:52
missing what your proof is and what was your troop loss on the ywc

settler2015
15.01.18, 17:18
he is on about xp

TiuBean
15.01.18, 17:37
prnt.sc/i0r6fo

Just missed the 30% XP that is not running.

SnowBlizz
15.01.18, 17:48
I'm not sure what you are on about. I'll repost what I posted in another thread about Mary.

You are probably only getting +100% on base XP. No where does it state you get to increase on the increase. Most things in TO boost absed value not bosoted value. Just look at buffs where they cna run concurrently, they don't stack multiplicatively.
So with Fast Learner x3 you get form 100XP camp:
100 XP
+30% of 100 xp Fast learner = 30XP
+100% of 100 xp from Mary = 100XP
So effectively 130% of base value.

You also only get the boost on camps and troops you actually kill with Mary. There's 10 camps in your guide you don't attack with Mary, no boost on those and there's no extra on troops killed by your suicide waves.
I bet you are getting exactly what you are supposed to.

You've not provided a justification for how many XP points you think you should get and why you think you should get them.

TiuBean
15.01.18, 18:06
All fields are attacked with Mary, only the final BOSS used 2 attacks with NUSALA and another with an MMA. Soon emifies a Mary ends with 215 Swordsman.

Look this Guide with others Generals.

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139.926 XP

Mary 100% XP = 139.926 x 2 = 279.852

Fast Leaner = 139.926 + 30% = 41,977

= 321.829

It is far from what I gained by destroying almost 95% of the fields.

SnowBlizz
15.01.18, 18:19
Like I said. You are skipping 10 camps. Those 10 camps are not giving 130% extra XP. The map has 29 camps. You attack 19. That's 2/3 of the camps not 90%. at 265k you are getting exactly what you are supposed to.

You get *no* extra XP from the camps you are not specifically attacking. There at least 42180 XP you are not getting 130% extra XP from in that guide.

No bug.

TiuBean
15.01.18, 18:35
Like I said. You are skipping 10 camps. Those 10 camps are not giving 130% extra XP. The map has 29 camps. You attack 19. That's 2/3 of the camps not 90%. at 265k you are getting exactly what you are supposed to.

I am basing myself on this adventure with troops without any bonus that does not have all the fields destroyed to give the total of 139,926 XP.

settlersonlinewiki.eu/en/adventures/fairy-tale/ali-baba-the-young-wood-cutter/ali-baba-the-young-wood-cutter-general-270-nusala-with-besiegers/

NicciNZ
15.01.18, 20:13
I am basing myself on this adventure with troops without any bonus that does not have all the fields destroyed to give the total of 139,926 XP.

settlersonlinewiki.eu/en/adventures/fairy-tale/ali-baba-the-young-wood-cutter/ali-baba-the-young-wood-cutter-general-270-nusala-with-besiegers/

that base include xp for every camp, as you get xp when leader is taken out, however mary only gives xp on camps she kills and same goes for fast learner so the camps you skip only give you there base xp no extra, to gain the extra xp you need to kill those camp's

hades8840
15.01.18, 20:35
i am going to try your map very interested in the xtra xp i assume the number of the camps are the ones listed on the wiki map i follow evilj map and kill couple xtra camps and get 248429 xp plus prem at present

TiuBean
15.01.18, 21:21
that base include xp for every camp, as you get xp when leader is taken out, however mary only gives xp on camps she kills and same goes for fast learner so the camps you skip only give you there base xp no extra, to gain the extra xp you need to kill those camp's

Got it, I'll test and destroy everyone to see the total. Thank you!

HFoC
17.01.18, 10:30
i am going to try your map very interested in the xtra xp i assume the number of the camps are the ones listed on the wiki map i follow evilj map and kill couple xtra camps and get 248429 xp plus prem at present

see https://forum.thesettlersonline.com/threads/35559-Reasonable-use-of-Mary-Christmas.
You can get it up to 300k with a bit of extra camps (and losses).

Antoneeeee
17.01.18, 15:26
tested this theory that fast learner isnt working and would have to disagree - using mary on woody and anslem i simmed every camp i was killing, looking at the xp it gave per camp - worked out what mary should give and at the end of the addy i got more xp (because of the killed camps when sector clear) than i was expecting - i even included the 30% extra in my maths...i ended up with 254k ish xp - therefore i would conclude that fast learner is infact working on her - i have all the totals down but i seriously can't be bothered listing every camp and showing my workings :D