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errm, thanks but whose flag is that?
It appears to be a composite of the crosses of St George and St Andrew ie: England and Scotland, but is missing the cross of St Patrick for Northern Ireland.
Have we gone back in time or do you think we've ceded Ulster in the Brexit negotiations?
It could be considered by many as quite offensive.
Ozzymandeus
10.06.18, 11:16
...do you think we've ceded Ulster in the Brexit negotiations?
Wishful thinking, maybe? ;)
Seriously though, when I first saw the graphic in the news item I was hopeful that maybe the Union Jack might be made available as a Flowerbed Flag in the upcoming summer event, as many people requested in this thread (https://forum.thesettlersonline.com/threads/33429-Summer-Event-Flags). Then I also noticed the missing portions of the Northern Irish flag and began to wonder...
the ulster flag is isnt in the union flag anyway. its a red + with a hand with a crown over it on a white field. bit like the cross of st george but the cross is over to the right rather than in the middle. the red X in the union flag doesnt really represent any part of the UK But its used to represent ireland as the normal ulster flag clashes with the england flag. the welsh flag isnt in the union flag either. its only scotland and england thats in it.
The only reason England and Scotland became united was cause the king of England was actualy a Scottish guy who invaded Scotland using English and Scottish armies to unite the 2 countries. He also invaded ireland to get back to his homeland as the scotti tribe who named Scotland were actually irish.
The Scotti tribe got thrown out of ireland by the other 3 irish tribes after a war. So the scotti tribe went looking for a new homeland which they found on the clyde and built glasgow.
Highlanders r the original pict tribes. the lowlanders r the irish scotti tribe.
Oh good. Something else trivial for people to get all upset about.
It's been a while
:)
Oh good. Something else trivial for people to get all upset about.
It's been a while
:)
Settlers is important and real life is trivial? If only the real world were nothing to worry about and people didn't die over flags. *Sigh*
The forum is dying a death to be fair. ANYTHING will do, even cod history.
Settlers is important and real life is trivial? If only the real world were nothing to worry about and people didn't die over flags. *Sigh*
The forum is dying a death to be fair. ANYTHING will do, even cod history.
I think you misunderstood and/or my message was unclear. And I'm assuming the thread is about the flag shown in the Trooping the Color section on the main page...
From my point of view, a graphic posted by a game is trivial. A good definition of trivial. Much as the referred to 'exactly what was sent as a game reward for woman's day issue' was.
It's just a graphic on one section of a page (which you don't even actually have to look at if you don't want) that you go through to get into a game based on a fictitious universe who's designers on occasion borrow real world elements to offer some color for. It really doesn't matter.
That's what I meant by trivial.
I got you, but I disagree. If the game alludes to real life, it IS (kind of, on the edge of) serious, even in a dying non-game.
I think they should think twice and probably stop doing these quietly crass things. Then again, I'm not holding my breath.
If it was Elizabeth I's birthday, that flag might be fair game as if you've ever watched any films based in Tudor times, something very similar to that is seen flying as the ensign on ships of the line.
But if we're allowing out of date flags then we all know how offensive that can be! ;)
I can think of several that would never ever be allowed to be posted here.
And Cliff, there's a very good reason why there's no dragons on it, they didn't include principalities. The offset red saltire is still supposed to represent St Patrick, even though the current N Ireland flag as you rightly describe is the red + with the red hand, the Union Flag (it's not the Union Jack unless on a ship btw) dates back to long before the breakaway of Eire, it's a bit of a throwback to the British Isles as opposed to Great Britain.
Settlers is important and real life is trivial? If only the real world were nothing to worry about and people didn't die over flags. *Sigh*
The forum is dying a death to be fair. ANYTHING will do, even cod history.
Sheldon Cooper presents "Fun With Flags". :)
lordloocan
11.06.18, 07:59
The flag illustrated on the login page is known as The King's Colours or Great Union Flag. It 'officially' stopped being used in 1801 with the addition of flag of St.Patrick. However it is still used on non-governmental and civilian buildings and is still seen by many as the flag which represents the King/Queen rather than the UK/GB, though the Royal Standard would be a better choice.
The reason the Welsh dragon does not appear on the Union Flag, often incorrectly called the Union Jack (Only this when flown on a naval vessel) is that the Wales had been annexed by Edward the 1st and was seen as part of the Kingdom of England and so is represented by the flag of England.
The flag illustrated on the login page is known as The King's Colours or Great Union Flag. It 'officially' stopped being used in 1801 with the addition of flag of St.Patrick. However it is still used on non-governmental and civilian buildings and is still seen by many as the flag which represents the King/Queen rather than the UK/GB, though the Royal Standard would be a better choice.
The reason the Welsh dragon does not appear on the Union Flag, often incorrectly called the Union Jack (Only this when flown on a naval vessel) is that the Wales had been annexed by Edward the 1st and was seen as part of the Kingdom of England and so is represented by the flag of England.
I have to say that I have never seen that version of the flag used in Britain LL, nor heard that it's a choice anyone makes for some royalist reason! And god knows I've met some lunatics in my time that believe in such royalist nonsense.
Basically, BB got the flag wrong. They've got their own game wrong mostly lately so it's not a shock!
lordloocan
11.06.18, 15:34
I have to say that I have never seen that version of the flag used in Britain LL, nor heard that it's a choice anyone makes for some royalist reason! And god knows I've met some lunatics in my time that believe in such royalist nonsense.
Basically, BB got the flag wrong. They've got their own game wrong mostly lately so it's not a shock!
totally agree, but that is what the flag shown is. still at least they tried and they did give us some nice goodies.
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