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Baldazz
21.02.19, 18:40
Did not get 100% on Ali Baba and the Second Thief, anyone else have this problem?

The siege has same problem.

hades8840
21.02.19, 19:38
confirmed same issue started off giving double loot, refills and xp now the buff no longer works this is also seen on the german servers also ..have lost a lot of refills because of the lack buff working

Roderius
21.02.19, 19:46
Mine just worked for myself, but not the lootspotter (on an Ali 2nd)

amazola
21.02.19, 19:59
Mine has only worked 1 time out of 5, all the same adv, The Seige and buff active in all

lordloocan
21.02.19, 21:19
Same, on all 4 lakesides so far

hades8840
22.02.19, 07:55
really surprised more havent complained or even noticed ur meant to get x2 loot with the buff or its only affecting small number ppl but the issue is in the german and usa servers so has to be world wide


just redid these buffs as i ran a oil over night now i watched what i placed this time and buffed my wifes farms with cards 1-3 and she buffed mine with cards 4-6 and did two sieges hers and mine and received x2 loot.... no idea if that even made a difference just thought would try as thats how the achievements are listed ...will do a few more while the buff is active to see if the others receive the same x2 loot and xp

SnowBlizz
22.02.19, 08:39
When people brought it up yesterday I couldn't tell for sure. I saved all my adv loots after that, but I can't be sure which all had buff active. 1 out of 4 TR loots didn't have double but was ran by someone who for sure did not have it active.

It's also tough to say when advs give low loot or high loot. Sometimes I thought I was getting double but wasn't, only higher value. Since it does not indicate on adv it's hard to keep track of. And basically impossible for an outsider.

Also am not sure what happens when buff runs out and is re-applied mid adv. Guildy indicated it might not have dubled loot then.

hades8840
22.02.19, 09:13
further update seems the buff only works on the first adventures after the buff is activated like i said earlier did the buffs a snew this morning did 2 sieges host on one and joiner on other both paid double loot and both was the first adventures ran since the buff was activated on both partys.... now just finished another two and nether for me or the swapper have gained double loot at a loss at to whats wrong

cheethamhill
22.02.19, 09:16
supposed to give friends (prntscr.com/mojmrd) in multi and coops double loot and it doesn't

prntscr.com/mojoxw thats a coop,I know the person that activated the coop has cards running because I placed them..

Grumsi
22.02.19, 09:53
I never got more loot when Valentine buff was activated on my island. Its bugged. Tried many times!

ClarenceDuPont
22.02.19, 10:24
I get double as host, friends do not.
I get double on co-op someone else hosts too

Grumsi
22.02.19, 11:26
Update. I zoned out for 15 min, when back in, I let my friend buff my farms with three different card numbers. And it worked. I got 100% more loot!

ClarenceDuPont
22.02.19, 13:13
Update - I just finished another TR as host, no double

topgearfan
22.02.19, 13:40
Is anything working as intended?
This requires global compensation or another adding of days to the event.. after another hotfix of course.

Grumsi
22.02.19, 14:34
Update: Apperantely something is still wrong. Now i did not get 100% more. I was not a host of WW that we played.

Anomandaris
22.02.19, 14:58
I have not received bonus loot as a host of an adventure started while I had the buff active as well as no bonus loot as a player in a coop of an adventure started by a player with the buff. Up to now - 0% success with the buff.

BB_Torkav
22.02.19, 15:00
Hello,

The Dev Diary for the Valentine Event has received an update (https://forum.thesettlersonline.com/threads/36769-Dev-Diary-Valentine-2019-Event?p=350954&viewfull=1#post350954) with a clarification on how the Valentine Buff works.

Anomandaris
22.02.19, 15:09
Hello,

The Dev Diary for the Valentine Event has received an update (https://forum.thesettlersonline.com/threads/36769-Dev-Diary-Valentine-2019-Event?p=350954&viewfull=1#post350954) with a clarification on how the Valentine Buff works.

Ok, you got misleading explanation before - problem still stands. As a host (adventure started while with the buff), I did not receive bonus as well. As a player (while also having the buff), I did not receive any bonus. Bug is still there, please don't bury it in some explanations.

Grumsi
22.02.19, 15:12
I always had Valentine buff active on my island, but received 100% more loot 2 time out of 12 advantures played! Do other players need to have Valentine buff active aswell, do other players matter or not?

Kit_
22.02.19, 15:14
I have had the buff active ON MY OWN ISLAND and only received the boost 3 out of 6 adv's (boost received on 2 adv i started, 1 was a lootspot, NO boost on 3 adv i started)
all adventures were started and finished during the buff duration
the new explanation by BB does NOT explain why i am not getting the loot boost

Grumsi
22.02.19, 15:27
Another advanture played Tomb raiders, I was the host and no extra rewards. This is getting frustrating!

BB_Torkav
22.02.19, 15:28
Ok, you got misleading explanation before - problem still stands. As a host (adventure started while with the buff), I did not receive bonus as well. As a player (while also having the buff), I did not receive any bonus. Bug is still there, please don't bury it in some explanations.

Please report such cases to the Support Team as well.

Anomandaris
22.02.19, 15:35
Please report such cases to the Support Team as well.

I already reported it yesterday with screenshots of at least two cases when it was bugged. Just adding to the conversation here, because there seems to be misunderstanding if there is an actual bug or we just cannot understand how it is supposed to work. There is a bug.

amazola
22.02.19, 15:50
I reported this too yesterday, there seems to be no pattern to it, yesterday I completed 5 Seige adventures when my buff was fully active..........only one had the bonus. Today I repeated the same excercise and 2 out of 5 had the bonus, so I suppose thats an improvement

Grumsi
22.02.19, 15:53
I reported this too yesterday, there seems to be no pattern to it, sometimes it works but mostly it doesnt

Same here! It worked 2 times out of 12!

hades8840
22.02.19, 16:16
seriously cant work this bug out fresh this morning got buffed so buff 3hrs 17 m long did 2 sieges plus 2 ls got x2 loot that was withing the first hr after that further 4 adv didnt yield the bonus loot..then buff died so rebuffed again every adv paid double for the 3 hrs... till it ran out so buffed again and none paid double...can not work out the trigger for it and i doubt BB are doing anything asked for more info on ticket but no response since....and as this event is a short one as each day passes it becomes unlikely they will fix it

LillyAmy
22.02.19, 17:17
that event is a fiasco :(

Grumsi
22.02.19, 17:18
My only 2 times that it worked, was when i zoned out for 15 min and logged back in, then let friend buffed my farms, then started advanture myself. I got it that time, next time i took lootspot and get it again, and after that 5 straight advantures I did not get bonus anymore. No recognizable pattern yet. Will keep updating, but if there is no will to fix this, i will stop bother too.

SnowBlizz
22.02.19, 18:02
Started a 2nd thief. Clsoe to end buffed farms. Differnet numbers.

Started a TR later. Both gave double loot.

Update:

Joined another TR and started a Buccaneers, started buffs halfway on last one got double from both.

Menawhiel guildes both with buff up got no extra from a 2nd Thief. Seems compeltely random.

unicornlinzy1
22.02.19, 18:41
I reported this too yesterday, there seems to be no pattern to it, yesterday I completed 5 Seige adventures when my buff was fully active..........only one had the bonus. Today I repeated the same excercise and 2 out of 5 had the bonus, so I suppose thats an improvement

Having exactly the same problem, and seeing how long it takes to make these buffs it is a joke.

I really think it is shocking that BB sent this event live when they have known about these problems for a long time, now if I were a cynic I would say the whole event is nothing but a cash grab :(

lordloocan3
23.02.19, 10:15
Had 3 cards applied to the fields. Once active I started a dp and killed it. Buffs were still running so effect was still active. Outcome was 3 refills, just as if no buffs on fields. So, what is the point in lower levels bothering to waste all thise nibs to make these field buffs? May as well add 3 snacks to them and let them run out. Pathetic.

hades8840
23.02.19, 10:47
sp far some buffs some dont i cant figure out if certain cards work and some dont maybe thats why its so hit and miss...also notice each day when i first get buffed even though the buff is 3 hrs long when buffed by a friend...i get double loot for the first hr any adv started within that hr i get double loot the ones done after that while the buff is still active only give normal loot....but as we can see BB have no intention of fixing this or we would of had another hotfix

Gravity216
23.02.19, 11:10
I had the bonus loot twice yesterday out of at least a dozen advs. I was most disappointed not to get the double on the 2 x 2nd thief and the oil lamp i did. My farms were correctly buffed with the cards and i had the valentine icon in the area buffs at the top of the screen with the bear picture. Buff was running from before the advs and right through, but still got nothing.

I had specifically waited for a time when i could do 2 2t advs and receive 2 ls of the same from my friend. She got the double loot each time. I did not.

Grumsi
23.02.19, 11:11
Not working at all today. 2 advantures played, both times got complete minimum of flower refills. Valentine no-buff was active ofcourse!

Grumsi
23.02.19, 11:30
i am having huge losses because of this bug. I get around 300 flower refills per day with bugged Valentine buff, if buff would be working properly, I would get around 500 flower refills per day, so i am losing 200 refills per day. How much do 200 refills cost? I did not even receive an answer from BB when sending ticket, they just ask me to tell them a time when this happened. What is going on?? At the end of this event, my loss will be over 2 million gc in game currency. I demand this back.

Grumsi
23.02.19, 12:06
I tried now to buff cards myself. And now it worked, somehow I have a suspicion that for us Valentine buff is working for only 1h, even if friend buffs you. The other 2h will not count. If someone can confirm this theory, paste it here! Thank you

hades8840
23.02.19, 13:32
I tried now to buff cards myself. And now it worked, somehow I have a suspicion that for us Valentine buff is working for only 1h, even if friend buffs you. The other 2h will not count. If someone can confirm this theory, paste it here! Thank you

i did think the same but even that doesnt work out as the buffs i had this morning worked for the full 3 hrs 17 minutes...my partner they worked for all except the very last loot when they had 7 minutes left on timer rest had all been doubled and that was 8 sieges spots

t00tie
23.02.19, 13:52
Mine didn't work despite being active the entire duration of Oil Lamp. All it does is lag home island

Grumsi
23.02.19, 15:14
For now, it always work if you treat Valentine buff to work just 1h. Buffed yourself or buffed by friends, it doesnt matter, you will get 100% loot only if you completed advanture before 1h since farms were buffed.

pallepind
23.02.19, 15:52
what a fail buff did alot coop and had bad numbers of flowers in all. yes farms had buff running all day too.

Please watch the language on the forums

Kelza
23.02.19, 17:09
For now, it always work if you treat Valentine buff to work just 1h. Buffed yourself or buffed by friends, it doesnt matter, you will get 100% loot only if you completed advanture before 1h since farms were buffed.

No. Just no.
Many players are saying it didnt work whatever duration they had left. Please take the information into consideration ;-)

Barpheus
23.02.19, 18:13
For now, it always work if you treat Valentine buff to work just 1h. Buffed yourself or buffed by friends, it doesnt matter, you will get 100% loot only if you completed advanture before 1h since farms were buffed.

I acitvated the buff 2 times now - always before i sent the last attack on VLT. Yesterday i got the double loot (also on the following coop-adventures), but today it didnt work. So thats not true with the 1h for all..

FatsoTheLarge
23.02.19, 20:15
I completed two Buccaneer R. in last hour with 5 minutes card buffs still working on my 3 gardens and neither adventure loot gave extra flowers. Previously I have completed these and got 100% extra loot with less than 20 minutes remaining of buffs and in all cases cards were placed by someone else on my gardens. I have reported as a game problem :) ps previously I have had loot of 10 or 15 flowers which have been doubled to 20 or 30. On both these I only had flowers of 10. I assume this should have bene doubled to 20? thanks FTL I await reply to my reported problem.

PS The lag was awfully when I was finished adventures, but buffs were still fizzing away after I had checked my loot.

KirstenDK
23.02.19, 23:03
I just did a Second thief and I had valentine zone buff AND scouting post xp buff active before starting the map, and they were active after completion of map. Still I got nothing doubled - not xp not loot, at all. Seems that if you have both buff active - they cancel each other.

Bobblyt
24.02.19, 08:27
just completed a ToK - farms buffed 2 hours 29 minutes remaining - no bonus
http://thesettlersonlinewiki.com/uploads/1889431037valentine bug.PNG

Norton_C
24.02.19, 10:23
yep, as others say. First 3 worked double, last 2 didn't. I think the condition is that you need to smile when starting the adventure and sing praises about BB. Then it works. :)

jon47uk
24.02.19, 11:25
Myself and two other friends have played Buccaneer round up 6 times, we have all buffed each others buildings and flower farms the same. One friend gets gets the double drop without fail yet I and my other friend just get the stranded refills every time even if we play Lakeside together. This is every day, I just wonder what BB is going to do to sort this out.

Fredonius
24.02.19, 12:23
Same Problem.
1 played 2 times Lakeside Treasure with Premium.
Reward in both Adv: 9 + 5 Flower Refills
Started the first LT 1 Minute after activating the Card buff.
After the 2. LT 45 Minutes left from the Buff.

amazola
24.02.19, 12:30
yep, as others say. First 3 worked double, last 2 didn't. I think the condition is that you need to smile when starting the adventure and sing praises about BB. Then it works. :)

Ah! So thats where I have been going wrong :)

cat_flap
24.02.19, 12:50
I just did a Second thief and I had valentine zone buff AND scouting post xp buff active before starting the map, and they were active after completion of map. Still I got nothing doubled - not xp not loot, at all. Seems that if you have both buff active - they cancel each other.

Myself and a guildie had just finished a 2nd thief swap. Both have prem and have three card buffs on our fields. The buffs were active at the time both the 2nd thieves were started, when the ls were sent and picked up and when the adventures ended. (We both have in excess of 10 pop centers buffed but I don't think that is relevant).

I got the double reward on both my adventure and the ls from the other player. However the other player only got the single reward on both their adventure and the ls they had from me.

The only difference I can see is that the guildie has 'Strong Combat Intelligence' in operation.

Update - added Combat Intel to my island and was still getting double reward.

SirAndrew80
24.02.19, 13:22
2nd thief got 9 refill, so definitely it's not doubled. Did few TR todays with valentine buff activated and didn't get double loot. Same for VLT.
Yesterday it worked fine but today lost around 150 refill because of that. Reported to BB support , let's see.

MutantKid
24.02.19, 13:23
Can confirm the buff is not working today, fine yesterday but no double loot today. All farms active with cards too. Put a bit of a downer on the event now, no point doing TR for just 8+4 refills, lol.

Got a way round the bug, exchanged 3 card but got back to see only 2 active but 3 mails from buffer to confirm he put 3, visited random friend, went back, 3 active again but no x2 loot in adv.

I then stop buff the buggy 3 cards, applied my own, got loot again, proceeded to swap again, made sure I see all 3 applied & voila, working again.

WAIT to see your buffs applied, that's the way round the bug!

iookoko
24.02.19, 13:25
No double loot and XP from 2Thief (with active Valentine buff of course). I'll not report, because its a waste of time.

Gravity216
24.02.19, 13:28
Despite reporting the valentine buff not working for me 2 days ago and sending in a ticket to support nothing has changed and I am still losing out. Often the very first adv or ls pays the bonus, Anything after that does not. There is no way to prove how many advs and loot spots i have done while the cards are active on the fields, but I am very disappointed to say the least that I am still missing out. Not once in this thread has any one from BB said anything, except to contact support.
As this was the main reason and bonus for playing the event, it is a big let down all round.

WillowWarbler
24.02.19, 15:41
No extra loot from my second thief and black knights, even though both started and ended within the 3 hours the cards were put on my flower farms. That's 18 flower refills I did not get, and even more if prem was supposed to give 50% of the extra as well...

Fredonius
24.02.19, 17:40
After rebooting and clearing Memory, also the second Valentine Buff does not work on Black Knights.
Getting the normal Loot + Premium.

TheVictorious
24.02.19, 17:55
No double refill from 2nd thief, I confirm that, so been 3 days wasting time with lies.

Schipperke
24.02.19, 19:32
I did 3 Sieges this morning with a friend. At the same time, I also did 3 Sieges on Ares server. Both servers had the Valentine's Buff running, applied at the same time.

On Newfoundland server I got the double bonus for all 3 Sieges. On Ares server, I got the bonus only for the first 2 Sieges. My friend didn't get the bonus on any of the adventures, even though he had the Valentine buff running and applied the same time as mine. So I think it's random whether or not one gets the bonus. And I hope it will be fixed, because it's too hard to get enough refills without the bonus.

Norton_C
24.02.19, 20:29
WAIT to see your buffs applied, that's the way round the bug!

No it's not. It just "worked" in your individual case. Otherwise it's so messed up that it works or doesn't randomly from what we players can see. No real pattern. I had all 3 buffed and confirmed every time, still sometimes works, sometimes doesn't.

Also you can check if Valentine zone buff is active. Active on home zone, come to adv zone and it's not active there. So know straight away that it's not working.

Xibor
24.02.19, 20:44
It seemed to me that it worked as long as I stayed in the same session. I had it working consistently until I happened to log off and back on and then it wasn't working.

Harlequin_1963
24.02.19, 22:20
It seemed to me that it worked as long as I stayed in the same session. I had it working consistently until I happened to log off and back on and then it wasn't working.

Or if game crashes and you have to log back in again

GRB3396
25.02.19, 01:15
Just got the Observatory up and running and bought the Star chart recipes, The detailed star chart buff showed that the gens would travel in 2 mins 4 secs, but they still took 8 mins 15 secs, it does not work

topgearfan
25.02.19, 02:00
No it's not. It just "worked" in your individual case. Otherwise it's so messed up that it works or doesn't randomly from what we players can see. No real pattern. I had all 3 buffed and confirmed every time, still sometimes works, sometimes doesn't.

Also you can check if Valentine zone buff is active. Active on home zone, come to adv zone and it's not active there. So know straight away that it's not working.

I dont have it showing on adv and got the bonus.

BigJoke
25.02.19, 09:44
Valentine Buff worked every time for me friday and sunday (got twice the loot and refills on at least 30ish advs).
It didn't work at all tuesday, saturday and today (monday). I'm starting to wonder if couldn't be a bug "odd day" (or "even day") related...

mrnjau
25.02.19, 10:59
not working for me as well, 3 TR loots were single ...

Gismoon
25.02.19, 11:49
Three failures in row (same Valentine buff). Today

topgearfan
25.02.19, 11:51
First time used the buff only worked as adv bonus loot for me 1h out of 3. Now used the same card numbers on someone else and they got full 3h. So its not specific card numbers either..

royavatar
25.02.19, 11:54
hi, can any one answer this for me

re:- valentine zone buff if it stops/times out during a icon bonus adventure , do we get bonus, or do we have to activate it again.

Grumsi
25.02.19, 12:06
If you buff farms by yourself, then Valentine buff works everytime. Here you go guys, and send me some goods to thank me.

Norton_C
25.02.19, 12:56
I dont have it showing on adv and got the bonus.

Yes, I already realised that even this is buged.

hades8840
25.02.19, 13:01
there is no logic to this bug have give up trying to work it out..today played 10 sieges 5 i hosted 5 i was on...all of mine paid double loot and xp..i was buffed by my co-op partner and i buffed them... they had 8 pay double and the last one failed... yet nothing had changed to cause the fail ...i seen on the german servers they was gonna look into this but they have left it this long now and so many have lost so much in the lost bonuses

Grumsi
25.02.19, 13:17
there is no logic to this bug have give up trying to work it out..today played 10 sieges 5 i hosted 5 i was on...all of mine paid double loot and xp..i was buffed by my co-op partner and i buffed them... they had 8 pay double and the last one failed... yet nothing had changed to cause the fail ...i seen on the german servers they was gonna look into this but they have left it this long now and so many have lost so much in the lost bonuses

As i said before, it always work if you buff your Flower Farms yourself. It only last 1h, but it is managable. At least you know you will get 100% loot. It is worth it.

BB_Torkav
25.02.19, 13:19
The buff has to be active when the adventure ends and the loot is calculated and sent to the player.

It is not enough when the buff is active during the adventure but ends before the adv is completed. It has to be active when the adventure ends and the loot is sent.

This means that if a player has the buff running and is in his third adventure, the possibility is high that the buff will run out before the adv is finished = no additional loot.

Grumsi
25.02.19, 13:25
The buff has to be active when the adventure ends and the loot is calculated and sent to the player.

It is not enough when the buff is active during the adventure but ends before the adv is completed. It has to be active when the adventure ends and the loot is sent.

This means that if a player has the buff running and is in his third adventure, the possibility is high that the buff will run out before the adv is finished = no additional loot.


LOL. This will upset many folks. You do realize there is a bug, right, and not misunderstanding of how Valentine buff works? As I said before Valentine buff is not bugged when applied by yourself, otherwise it is randomly bugged and you can not be sure if it will work or not. So for now we have 1 solution, buff your Flower Farms yourself and it will work everytime!

hades8840
25.02.19, 13:35
The buff has to be active when the adventure ends and the loot is calculated and sent to the player.

It is not enough when the buff is active during the adventure but ends before the adv is completed. It has to be active when the adventure ends and the loot is sent.

This means that if a player has the buff running and is in his third adventure, the possibility is high that the buff will run out before the adv is finished = no additional loot.


You havent grasped the issue i now the buff has to be active at the end of the adventure and it is on every single adv i do i can do 5 sieges easily within a 3 hr window but there is no guarentee any of the loot is doubled so how do you explain that its bugged the whole game knows it the problem is the devs dont they assume we dont know how the buff works

Soupssss
25.02.19, 13:38
it is randomly bugged

Maybe we can have more information about it in the Bug list, where you see all the know bugs, their severity, and time to fix :)
You know, the kind of list, that make you less frustated, that does not make you try 3 browsers, clear cache, wait 15 minutes and reboot your computer... for nothing.

Kit_
25.02.19, 13:39
The buff has to be active when the adventure ends and the loot is calculated and sent to the player.

It is not enough when the buff is active during the adventure but ends before the adv is completed. It has to be active when the adventure ends and the loot is sent.

This means that if a player has the buff running and is in his third adventure, the possibility is high that the buff will run out before the adv is finished = no additional loot.


This is NOT what is the problem
I have used cards 3 times
1st time, worked on 1st adv, NOT on 2nd and 3rd, ALL completed with valentines buff still active
2nd time, worked for all 3 adv's i did
3rd time, did NOT work for all 3 adv's i did, with the buff still running for all 3 adv

This is a bug, as can be seen by the 8 pages here, oh and the over 30 pages on the german server where they have labelled it as a bug on their forum

Mannerheim
25.02.19, 13:44
The buff has to be active when the adventure ends and the loot is calculated and sent to the player.

It is not enough when the buff is active during the adventure but ends before the adv is completed. It has to be active when the adventure ends and the loot is sent.

This means that if a player has the buff running and is in his third adventure, the possibility is high that the buff will run out before the adv is finished = no additional loot.


If it would be that simple there would not be almost +100 pages total of forum posts about the subject across the different regions. Here is the German version and the title has your internal ticket system ID or something so you could go check the status if you have access:

https://forum.diesiedleronline.de/threads/137352-%E2%98%85-Doppelter-Loot-nur-im-ersten-AT-23045/

amazola
25.02.19, 14:17
The buff has to be active when the adventure ends and the loot is calculated and sent to the player.

It is not enough when the buff is active during the adventure but ends before the adv is completed. It has to be active when the adventure ends and the loot is sent.

This means that if a player has the buff running and is in his third adventure, the possibility is high that the buff will run out before the adv is finished = no additional loot.


With all due respect I feel you are not understanding our situation, the Valentine buff only works at random. I would not expect it to work if the buff had run out , but it hardly ever works at any point in the buff duration

Bobblyt
25.02.19, 15:05
The buff has to be active when the adventure ends and the loot is calculated and sent to the player.

It is not enough when the buff is active during the adventure but ends before the adv is completed. It has to be active when the adventure ends and the loot is sent.

This means that if a player has the buff running and is in his third adventure, the possibility is high that the buff will run out before the adv is finished = no additional loot.


did 3 sieges with buff running (and yes was still active when I completed the 3rd one); buffed myself - 1st one got bonus loot (I was invited to this) 2nd no bonus (mine) & 3rd no bonus (invited) so totally random - in my experience it does not work more often than it works: lost out on a few hundred refills so far

Grumsi
25.02.19, 15:53
did 3 sieges with buff running (and yes was still active when I completed the 3rd one); buffed myself - 1st one got bonus loot (I was invited to this) 2nd no bonus (mine) & 3rd no bonus (invited) so totally random - in my experience it does not work more often than it works: lost out on a few hundred refills so far

That is all you guys need to know!

Kit_
25.02.19, 16:03
That is all you guys need to know!

nope,
i have had a valentines buff where NONE of the adv's gave extra, not even the first one

Bobblyt
25.02.19, 16:05
That is all you guys need to know!

Grumsi - the buff was running for all 3 but only 1 gave the bonus loot - so it does not work as intended

Grumsi
25.02.19, 17:15
nope,
i have had a valentines buff where NONE of the adv's gave extra, not even the first one

You buffed yourself or friend buffed your farms?

MutantKid
25.02.19, 17:16
Basically BB will not fix this bug, that's why they offered completely different advice in thread to what's being asked for, the event is very short so they will wing it to the end of event, a little surprised they refuse to acknowledge it's a bug as when those German's play up they usually get right on it!

Grumsi
25.02.19, 17:16
Grumsi - the buff was running for all 3 but only 1 gave the bonus loot - so it does not work as intended

It is very important to buff yourself. Did you buff yourself?

rathbone93
25.02.19, 17:17
still no comment from the devs, a third of the way through the event?

hades8840
25.02.19, 18:04
still no comment from the devs, a third of the way through the event?

they have commented telling us we are using the buffs wrong

lordloocan1
25.02.19, 18:09
Ok, clearly I am thick. Friends dropped 3 cards for me, I waited 5minutes intentionally so valentine was clearly running, started a tomb raiders, invited 3 others to do their sections. Ended adventure and got this:

http://prntscr.com/mpz33f

Shows valentine cards still running, shows loot was 11 refills, so clearly must normally pay out 5.5 refills, or am I being thick as I said??

So, next I did another identical tomb raiders immediately after and got this:

http://prntscr.com/mpzwo9

Note that the xp on both is identical to the first adventure and is exactly what tomb raiders gives with no skills on generals and no bonus buff. Also note that the 8 refills is exactly what we get with no bonus buff.

Hmm, so maybe I am not quite so thick as I thought; could it actually be that the Valentine buff is bugged?

mlisow52
25.02.19, 18:19
Dears, I've done 6 adv with 3 cards on invitating people island, started after, no premium received, no printscreen done, just for information, yes farms was buffed every time by me on friens islands

more, it was no nformation saying we have tu put cards before adv started, unhappy, but good luck with loots, lol

MutantKid
25.02.19, 19:20
Got a good one here, played 2 TR's simultaneously, the 1st gave the x2 loot, the 2nd (about 5 min after) didn't, lol, over 2 hrs still running on the buffs, didn't refresh or anything, lol, I'm lost for words...


I have played about 10 x 2nd thief with swap every time & to guarantee x2 loot I've had to place the cards myself like Grums suggested, but if u adv 6 hrs a day you would need 18 cards made, that's a lot of nibs etc.

I'm assuming when this was tested the x2 loot never came into question & for the 1st couple of days of the event there was barely a prob apart from the lag build up with so many returning players.

To admit a mistake now & throw another hotfix during the event would make BB look catastrophically bad! Problem is their own country's servers are making waves cause of this, the old saying of never (go to the toilet) where u sleep. < acceptable wording. lol.

Zodiac_Digital
25.02.19, 20:06
It is very important to buff yourself. Did you buff yourself?

It doesn't matter if u buffer your self or not. Guildie of mine done ToK run out of time before completing apply herself a buff and got single loot at the end. There is no rhyme or reason when it works and when it doesn't.

Anomandaris
25.02.19, 20:32
There was plenty of proof that the buff is not working properly and this is a huge detriment to the whole event. Please all official accounts stop misleading the players and acknowledge the problem! I (and probably many others) have created a ticket more than 4 days ago and there is still no response, other than a request for a more concrete timeframe of my buff, which I provided (along with screenshots for two separate instances).

BigJoke
26.02.19, 08:54
Valentine Buff worked every time for me friday and sunday (got twice the loot and refills on at least 30ish advs).
It didn't work at all tuesday, saturday and today (monday). I'm starting to wonder if couldn't be a bug "odd day" (or "even day") related...

It's confirmed, at least for me : today (thursday), buff is working fine. So it only works one every two days here.

hades8840
26.02.19, 10:40
lets face it their stalling for time by blaming the players ...they have no idea whats caused the bug and the event is too short for them to be concerned over it. the time when they would of all over this has long passed so they will twiddle their collective thumbs for the next week then clock the event up as a raging success

cat_flap
26.02.19, 11:24
Just ran 3 x second thief with cards on the fields. The first two I got double reward but for the third one I didn't. The double reward has been working correctly for me for the past three days. The fields were still buffed at the end of the third adventure.

I had a look thru the system log and the only thing that occurred not related to the adv was that I dropped some refills into the fields while the third adv was running.

Also a comment on the buffing issue mentioned above, I have not, as yet, dropped any cards on my fields myself, all have been dropped by guildies and I previously had no problem getting the double reward.

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Quote Originally Posted by BB_Torkav
The buff has to be active when the adventure ends and the loot is calculated and sent to the player.

It is not enough when the buff is active during the adventure but ends before the adv is completed. It has to be active when the adventure ends and the loot is sent.

This means that if a player has the buff running and is in his third adventure, the possibility is high that the buff will run out before the adv is finished = no additional loot.

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Well I can only say that the fields had red sparklies when I looked at them after the third adventure had finished (yes it's quite easy to do a second thief in under an hour). Of course I cannot say that the red sparklies were really there and not due to about 10 minutes lag, which is of course very possible.

ClarenceDuPont
26.02.19, 12:57
The buff has to be active when the adventure ends and the loot is calculated and sent to the player.

It is not enough when the buff is active during the adventure but ends before the adv is completed. It has to be active when the adventure ends and the loot is sent.

This means that if a player has the buff running and is in his third adventure, the possibility is high that the buff will run out before the adv is finished = no additional loot.


I try to be generally positive but this is insulting to the people posting here who all understand that the buff has to be running at close.

I've had 4 adv today, combination of hosted by me and hosted by others, all had buff active at close, none got double loot.

Here is screenshot showing buff active and standard loot.

https://snag.gy/dwBq7h.jpg

And here's another a few minutes later.

https://snag.gy/j2c1zZ.jpg

amazola
26.02.19, 13:59
I try to be generally positive but this is insulting to the people posting here who all understand that the buff has to be running at close.


I could not agree with you more, 5 Sieges today, all started and completed whilst buff was active, as usual only the first 2 were doubled, just a waste of resources

needtoplay
26.02.19, 15:14
I ran the card buff and fields were active before I started a 2nd thief and I didn't get the double reward, did another 2nd thief straight after and didn't get the double reward again.

Kelza
26.02.19, 16:22
The buff has to be active when the adventure ends and the loot is calculated and sent to the player.

It is not enough when the buff is active during the adventure but ends before the adv is completed. It has to be active when the adventure ends and the loot is sent.

This means that if a player has the buff running and is in his third adventure, the possibility is high that the buff will run out before the adv is finished = no additional loot.


I would like to say that this is an outrageously insufficient reply, and utter denial of what players are reporting to you. You are giving a bad name to the company that employs you, with your poor/unrelated/irrelevant explanations, I hope it is clear to you, BB_Torkav.

That's really such a shame, pathetic even, seeing how players had already had to cope with all the bugs, incredible lag/freeze for couple days, event reported by a week (but that was a good choice), and then it was Valentine buff bugged - and you are obviously trying to cover up/deny. Waw. Just waw.

Oh and should we mention that Observatory doesnt work AT ALL, too? :(
Bugs are bad, but your (=the whole team's) poor comunication over them is far worse of a problem in fact. Transparency could at least get you some comprehension. It could also be seen, for us, as a sign of respect...

MutantKid
26.02.19, 17:05
Yeah, agree with last few posts, Ive lost a few TR x2 loot, but not a 2nd thief yet, I activate cards right b4 last boss goes down, thankfully all 14 I played gave x2 but its costing me a lot of cards to add every hour I play adv. Trying to avoid swapping cards now as it seem to work for 1st hr then stop for no reason while cards are still active.

I Assume every server's forum round the world has a BB rep trying to say we not using the cards right, lol.

Legaz
26.02.19, 18:00
2 tr and 1 bc no double loot

Dungerdin
26.02.19, 18:29
I have had this happen to me now more than 5 times. On the first adventure when the valentine buff is active I sometimes get the double buff, but every adventure after the first (while the buff is still active) I DO NOT get the double loot buff. i am managing to get 3 coop adv done within the 3 hour window so I am missing out on 60% of the double loot (This is not satisfactory!). This will significantly impact the number of flowers I will be able to get during this event. I have a screenshot if you want me to post it. So far I have missed out on a lot of refills!

Xibor
26.02.19, 19:06
I agree - it's intermittent without any discernible pattern and therefore right in step with the general game standards.
Flaky.

Grumsi
26.02.19, 19:13
I agree - it's intermittent without any discernible pattern and therefore right in step with the general game standards.
Flaky.

I managed to solve the issue! Using my own cards on my own island. Double loot everytime! Problem solved! It is just expensive if playing many adventures per day, but it is manageble once you know this! I repeated this solution on this thread many times, but I guess people are not reading well! Still waiting for someone to send me some goods since I solve the issue!

ClarenceDuPont
26.02.19, 19:28
Your method did not work for me unfortunately.
I tried after buffing myself and got no loot boost on either the adv I hosted or the one I joined.

SerRicardo
26.02.19, 20:04
I would like to say that this is an outrageously insufficient reply, and utter denial of what players are reporting to you. You are giving a bad name to the company that employs you, with your poor/unrelated/irrelevant explanations, I hope it is clear to you, BB_Torkav.

That's really such a shame, pathetic even, seeing how players had already had to cope with all the bugs, incredible lag/freeze for couple days, event reported by a week (but that was a good choice), and then it was Valentine buff bugged - and you are obviously trying to cover up/deny. Waw. Just waw.

Oh and should we mention that Observatory doesnt work AT ALL, too? :(
Bugs are bad, but your (=the whole team's) poor comunication over them is far worse of a problem in fact. Transparency could at least get you some comprehension. It could also be seen, for us, as a sign of respect...

exactly!!! I write ticket today with two screenshot, and they answer that it's known issue. but this is insulting answer. "Buff have to be activated!" C'mon...

Xibor
26.02.19, 20:07
I managed to solve the issue! Using my own cards on my own island. Double loot everytime! Problem solved! It is just expensive if playing many adventures per day, but it is manageble once you know this! I repeated this solution on this thread many times, but I guess people are not reading well! Still waiting for someone to send me some goods since I solve the issue!

Sorry, but according to others you have not. It seems much like the not-recently-mentioned "buffs don't last for expected duration" bug that affects many players, but not all, and can't seem to be reproduced.

We shouldn't be surprised you know.

Grumsi
26.02.19, 20:10
Sorry, but according to others you have not. It seems much like the not-recently-mentioned "buffs don't last for expected duration" bug that affects many players, but not all, and can't seem to be reproduced.

We shouldn't be surprised you know.

Thats not good news then! At least I hope, someone is having bug with the same code as mine, and it is helpful for them.

SmurfAsH
26.02.19, 21:32
If multiplayer- and coop-advs have a * (star) in star-menu, then Valentine buff "should" still give 2x loot.

hades8840
26.02.19, 21:36
If multiplayer- and coop-advs have a * (star) in star-menu, then Valentine buff "should" still give 2x loot.

they should but they dont u get the icon once the buff is active but it shows as active even when faulty

Kelza
27.02.19, 12:20
The sheer absence of any more attention granted to this thread by officials is appaling.

ambandil
27.02.19, 13:15
https://forum.thesettlersonline.com/threads/36760-Change-Log-12-02-19

BB_Torkav
27.02.19, 13:16
The sheer absence of any more attention granted to this thread by officials is appaling.

An update (https://forum.thesettlersonline.com/threads/36760-Change-Log-12-02-19?p=351192&viewfull=1#post351192) has been added to the latest Change Log today, listing bugs that are currently our top priority. The bug being discussed in this thread is number one on that list. Rest assured that we are doing everything we can to find a solution.

mlisow52
27.02.19, 13:26
just for info:
[B-W-L] denna2012: tomb raider ls...give me 8+4 flowers refil...i have premium, val.card and love c....this is BUG

hades8840
27.02.19, 14:58
I have pretty much eliminated this bug now ..i am still getting it but its now limited to what it was i already worked out when the game reloaded it made the buff inactive even though it still showed in the zone wide area...i get buffed by someone and i do them then we do our sieges... once both are completed but not clicked we click one what for the mail and if its double collect the other.. as we are collective both right after each other its never failed yet both being the same... if we collect and one fails then that person deactivates one buff using a stop buff and rebuffs themselves this resets the buff and then collects the next one and its x2 loot (by collect i mean they click finish the adv) you still get fails but at least you can limit them as the game freezing ..lagging or crashing or rebooting or logging in can all reset the buff ...take the info as you wish its what i been doing for two days and almost all my loots been x2 since

topgearfan
27.02.19, 18:06
add inactivity to that list. my guess is however long it is suggested to log out for solving issues. 15-30 min from various sources. this also possibly includes not visiting home island for said time where the buff is active (not 100% on that).
if ive been constantly active ive not lost the bonus.

JayLBird
27.02.19, 18:07
I tried to give a friend a valentines card I hovered over the 3 flower farms and non of them accepted the card. what am I doing wrong?

Norton_C
27.02.19, 19:35
I have another theory what might be going on with this Valentine double, which is other zone buffs interference. I had a long streak of doubles, something like 30 addys or more, without any problem, making sure it was ending while buff was still on. Then I started another zone buff from football pitch, and double was gone. Done two addys with single results on that, so decided to cancel and start afresh.

SmurfAsH
28.02.19, 03:59
add inactivity to that list. my guess is however long it is suggested to log out for solving issues. 15-30 min from various sources. this also possibly includes not visiting home island for said time where the buff is active (not 100% on that).
if ive been constantly active ive not lost the bonus.
+1


We believe the issue is triggered when a home zone is reloaded.
Still, the issue is on server-side and not easily reproducible on client-side - the issue is NOT allways triggered when a home zone is reloaded.
I wouldn't be surprised if this is (yet another) fail-safe (https://forum.thesettlersonline.com/threads/33148-Dev-Blog-Treasure-Searches?highlight=fail-safe) failure, throwing a server rollback on us.
(Also, the buffs not remaining for full term. (https://forum.thesettlersonline.com/threads/30875-Buffs-not-remaining-for-full-term.) is still happening.)

Norton_C
28.02.19, 19:50
I have another theory what might be going on with this Valentine double, which is other zone buffs interference. I had a long streak of doubles, something like 30 addys or more, without any problem, making sure it was ending while buff was still on. Then I started another zone buff from football pitch, and double was gone. Done two addys with single results on that, so decided to cancel and start afresh.

Update on the above. Somebody placed bouquets and activated population zone buff. First 2 addys worked double, but then stopped. Next day addys were still on single. So I canceled the pop zone buff, and double started to work again without any problem. Suggest my theory might be correct and other zone buff interference might be part of the issue.

topgearfan
01.03.19, 16:04
how did your valentine card buffs last for a day?

Norton_C
01.03.19, 18:45
how did your valentine card buffs last for a day?

Pop buff from placing bouquets lasts a day or so, so next day that was still running and newly started Valentine (with pop buff running) didn't give double.

mlisow52
02.03.19, 20:16
hi, it's me again...
once again, Valentine's buffs failed - another cheatering or even fraud - with premium AND cards on before the start AND premium - 9 deposits on Nords...

anyway, have fun

mlisow52
02.03.19, 21:36
and fraud again, cards and premium, Nords: 8-4...

mlisow52
02.03.19, 21:37
not doubled, but twice, lol

JayLBird
03.03.19, 10:18
What a waste of time/ Sent ticket/ They asked for a screen shot/ Worked out how to do that and find it in my data files/ Sent it/ Silence!!! Cannot progress with Valentines tasks now/ Why did I start?

Schipperke
03.03.19, 22:46
The valentine buff was very hit-and-miss for me. Sometimes it worked as expected, other times it failed to give the expected double returns for no apparent reason (hadn't refreshed, the stars on adventures were still showing and the buffs on the farms had a lot of time yet to run). Another time I accidentally refreshed while the buff was active and the buff continued working after I returned.

I gave up trying to understand it.

The buffs were a frustrating part of this event for me. The cards took so long to make, then the buffs were short-lasting, the bonus effect worked or didn't work. I appreciate BB trying to make things interesting by giving us new things, but I hope they won't repeat this experience in other events.

Edited to add: The valentine messages were fun, though. I particularly liked "I love you almost as much as my couch" lol.

Areop-Enap
04.03.19, 07:31
Suggest my theory might be correct and other zone buff interference might be part of the issue.
I suspect it's something to do with other zone buffs removing the effect of valentine buff if applied afterward as well. I had a love crazed applied after cards which then made valentine stop giving double refills/xp, used stop buffs and got cards reapplied on farms and it began working again.

cat_flap
04.03.19, 09:43
Yeah the majority of the event seems to have been a mess but one thing it was good for was collecting Wisdom's from all the 2nd thieves that were run.

Norton_C
04.03.19, 10:51
I suspect it's something to do with other zone buffs removing the effect of valentine buff if applied afterward as well. I had a love crazed applied after cards which then made valentine stop giving double refills/xp, used stop buffs and got cards reapplied on farms and it began working again.

Something like that. If no other zone buff applied and no reload of the zone, the valentine buff sort of worked. Still at some points it stopped working after several adventures giving double, and once it stopped, it didn't start working again until cards were cancelled (or expired) and reapplied. So it was messy but sort of workable after I've figured this out.

Urd123
04.03.19, 11:31
I have had extra loot when valentines most times - but not all the time. Saw someone who though that it only worked with 3 different cards - not with 3 of the same, but have not tried making any notice of this.

cat_flap
04.03.19, 13:21
Treasure Search (Explorers)
All treasure searches started before the start of the removal phase and returning before the deactivation have the chance to reward event currency. All treasure searches started during or after the start of the removal phase will not reward event currency anymore.

Seemingly not a very good chance as a load that I sent out yesterday have come back with zero flowers.

hades8840
04.03.19, 14:31
Treasure Search (Explorers)
All treasure searches started before the start of the removal phase and returning before the deactivation have the chance to reward event currency. All treasure searches started during or after the start of the removal phase will not reward event currency anymore.

Seemingly not a very good chance as a load that I sent out yesterday have come back with zero flowers.

mine did too....sadly it happens when the game doesnt see you as here usually when you have logged out for 15 minutes but anything is possible with so many bugs lately and the loot table is reset