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Adobe is killing flash in 2020. As far as I know only google will keep it alive for few more years and even that is not a sure thing.
What does that mean for settlers? Are you already coding in new enviroment?
Searcher the forum and noone is discussing this topic.
Adobe is killing flash in 2020. As far as I know only google will keep it alive for few more years and even that is not a sure thing.
What does that mean for settlers? Are you already coding in new enviroment?
been answered a dozen times in various ways in the forums no one is asking anymore
We are working on a plan for a time when Flash is no longer supported by browsers.
Moreover, even if the browsers suddenly stop supporting Flash, the downloadable client will still work.
We are working on a plan for a time when Flash is no longer supported by browsers.
Moreover, even if the browsers suddenly stop supporting Flash, the downloadable client will still work.
You do realize Blu Byte are shooting themselves in the foot by not giving a better plan lots of ppl are with holding buying gems because they dont want to waste hundreds of pounds on a game that will end soon even if it isnt without a concrete guarantee players are worried.... the gem offer every 10-14 days doesnt help plus all the gem based goodies there great if the game still gonna be here in 5 years not so much if in 12 months you announce the game is shutting..... i had that in lord of ultima after spending a fortune....
We are working on a plan for a time when Flash is no longer supported by browsers.
Moreover, even if the browsers suddenly stop supporting Flash, the downloadable client will still work.
Can we have even less transparency please...
And havent you been told countless times that the client is clearly not an acceptable solution? There is high concerns that it wont be any secure after support for Flash has ended.
Searcher the forum and noone is discussing this topic.
Adobe is killing flash in 2020. As far as I know only google will keep it alive for few more years and even that is not a sure thing.
What does that mean for settlers? Are you already coding in new enviroment?
https://forum.thesettlersonline.com/threads/36855-Flash-Issue?highlight=flash
https://forum.thesettlersonline.com/threads/35069-Adobe-has-announced-end-of-life-for-Flash?highlight=flash
You havent looked much, or so it seems ;-)
Found the first link but it has nothing to do with flash ending
The second link has no answer from BB what they are even planning to do.
And as far as I know the downloadable client is yust a mini version of chrome and not something they actually developed, so again there is no reason that it will work after chrome shuts it down
By now BB should already have a solution for this. Or maybe they will shut it down and implement same type of multiplayer into the upcomming Settlers game in 2019
topgearfan
06.06.19, 09:19
Moreover, even if the browsers suddenly stop supporting Flash, the downloadable client will still work.
Are you sure it works though? There are multiple reports that it doesnt work.
We are working on a plan for a time when Flash is no longer supported by browsers.
Moreover, even if the browsers suddenly stop supporting Flash, the downloadable client will still work.
Same answer was here 6 month ago...
in six months, it will be 2020...
Please be honest with us. Give us date, details of this big plan...
Say what you do, and do what you have said !!!
Harlequin_1963
06.06.19, 14:10
We are working on a plan for a time when Flash is no longer supported by browsers.
Moreover, even if the browsers suddenly stop supporting Flash, the downloadable client will still work.
Sorry, but the downloadable client often needs the json files alterred to point to a known working pepperflash, something that many of the players of anno-onloine had to do to get it working, and isnt always a good fix.
Being based on chrome/chromium it has all the problems of file caching which Firefox does not due to ability to alter more of flash cache settings.
Also the downloadable client is a Windows .exe - not so useful for those of us playing on MacOS or Linux.
Also the downloadable client is a Windows .exe - not so useful for those of us playing on MacOS or Linux.
Don't worry, they have a secret big plan ;-)
Flash support will be removed from Chromium (Chrome, Opera, Edge, Steam, downloadable SettlersOnline client) on version 87+ in December 2020
https://www.chromium.org/flash-roadmap#TOC-Flash-Support-Removed-from-Chromium-Target:-Chrome-87---Dec-2020-
MonkeyDooD
19.07.19, 16:15
And in a world without flash support from browsers, what'll be the alternative when the client does not function properly? I tried using it a few times, but it never worked.
jazzaamiga
01.08.19, 08:03
Google confirm chrome ver 67 now block by default. But user can change manual but will stop working flash player end dec 2020
https://www.howtogeek.com/434334/how-to-enable-adobe-flash-in-google-chrome-76/
topgearfan
01.08.19, 10:32
umm hasnt it been like this for like a year or 2?
The change in Chrome 67 is that it clears the flash settings on startup. That means every time we restart the browser we have to re-allow flash content on TSO.
lordloocan
01.08.19, 22:04
Since latest chrome update I get a warning message when I load the chrome browser about the end of support for flash in 2020.
It's time for some news of the secret big plan :D
We are working on a plan for a time when Flash is no longer supported by browsers.
Moreover, even if the browsers suddenly stop supporting Flash, the downloadable client will still work.
It would be nice to have some feedback / information about the plan; I am loathe to invest in the game when I have no idea whether or not I will still be able to play after Xmas; I am really tempted to buy more gems (Anniversary Event, couple of Endless mines) but if the game only has another 4 - 5 months life then it is not worth it.
An update would be much appreciated:)
From what I heard, Adobe will terminate Flash in 2020. I also got a notification from Google Chrome that they will remove Flash in 2020. So, I am a bit worried about the future of this game.
Will it be like the old Windows that you can still use it but no more update nor support from the company, or BlueByte will move to another platform?
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From what I heard, Adobe will terminate Flash in 2020. I also got a notification from Google Chrome that they will remove Flash in 2020. So, I am a bit worried about the future of this game.
Will it be like the old Windows that you can still use it but no more update nor support from the company, or BlueByte will move to another platform?
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Every clues we had from BB and MOds go to the direction of the old windows :'(
Don't forget flash updates !
A new flash version has been released, to stop critical security risks :
https://helpx.adobe.com/security/products/flash-player/apsb19-46.html
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RinceWinde
12.09.19, 19:51
Firefox has now removed the option to always run flush on a web site.
looks like adobe AIR is being discontinued too, not much point in moving over to that. Adobe HARMAN is the next thing to look at. From one of the pages for it:
Adobe Flash Player will no longer be supported by Adobe or by any standard browsers beyond 2020. However, if the enterprise customers require Flash Player, then HARMAN will be able to offer them a solution that combines the regular Flash Player with customer’s SWF application. This will allow for a useful stop-gap for existing applications to continue to be used with little or no modifications, whilst long term plans for migration away from the Flash content are put into action.
HARMAN also offers alternative deployment and licensing models for Flash Player, for companies wishing to embed Flash Player into their own hardware or software products.
If you're using the Game Installer and not the Browser to play the game you need to install this Adobe Flash Player for Firefox from Adobe website.
https://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/otherversions/
Step 1:
Operating System: Select Windows 10
Step2:
Select a version: FP 32 for Firefox - NPAPI
Follow the prompts. Should be all set ;-)
Thejollyone
11.10.19, 06:50
I cant get the standalone to run the game any more. I get a blue flash as if it's start up then the screen goes black and I get a progression meter run at the bottom of the page and then..... nothing but a black screen. Doesn't matter what setting I use either.
If your using VLC Player it might conflict with the Settlers client. Here are the steps:
1. Uninstall VLC Player.
2. The Settlers client should work now.
3. If you need VLC Player, re-install it but when you get to the Prompt of selecting options, uncheck the following.
- Mozilla Plugins
- ActiveX Plugins
4. VLC Player and The Settlers Online client should work without conflicting.
41 days until year ends
would be nice with an official update on issue
41 days until year ends
Yes, 2019 ends in a few weeks.
Flash support, at least on Chrome, is not due to stop before December 2020.
TheVictorious
21.11.19, 12:46
It is clearly BB will let TSO die after flash support ends, pretty sure like 99.99%
Many other flash games went already to html5 or unity for web, if BB got any plan or thinking about any plan, they would be suggesting or mention that.
And it is 1 year left, It is not long time, if BB still not got any plan, then it is too late already.
Mannerheim
21.11.19, 13:07
They have "officially" said no to HTML5 several times which also the Unity thing essentially uses. The option that they have not shot down publicly is the fully downloadable version. It's possible to build a self contained flash app with no dependencies at least for Windows. The existing slim version is not that.
However downloadable version and no browser support means a lot of people will quit by choice or by not having a choice (office players, mac, linux, etc).
Is it worth to play with Settlers Online in 2019? I'm confused. I just started, I would like to buy gems (gem pits), but if the game servers will close soon, may not be the best idea. I should wait for some official response.
Is it worth to play with Settlers Online in 2019? I'm confused. I just started, I would like to buy gems (gem pits), but if the game servers will close soon, may not be the best idea. I should wait for some official response.
There are no plans to close the game servers. Some of the major browsers have said they will be disabling Flash by default at the end of 2020 due to Adobe no longer supporting Flash. This does not mean that Flash and Flash based games will not work. The Settlers Online can also be played in a standalone client that can be downloaded from the frontpage (https://www.thesettlersonline.com/en/download-game).
If you're using the Game Installer and not the Browser to play the game you need to install this Adobe Flash Player for Firefox from Adobe website.
https://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/otherversions/
Step 1:
Operating System: Select Windows 10
Step2:
Select a version: FP 32 for Firefox - NPAPI
Follow the prompts. Should be all set to run The Settlers Online client.
If your using VLC Player it might conflict with the Settlers client. Here are the steps:
1. Uninstall VLC Player.
2. The Settlers client should work now.
3. If you need VLC Player, re-install it but when you get to the Prompt of selecting options, uncheck the following.
- Mozilla Plugins
- ActiveX Plugins
4. VLC Player and The Settlers Online client should work without conflicting.
Thejollyone
22.11.19, 07:46
If you're using the Game Installer and not the Browser to play the game you need to install this Adobe Flash Player for Firefox from Adobe website.
https://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/otherversions/
Step 1:
Operating System: Select Windows 10
Step2:
Select a version: FP 32 for Firefox - NPAPI
Follow the prompts. Should be all set to run The Settlers Online client.
If your using VLC Player it might conflict with the Settlers client. Here are the steps:
1. Uninstall VLC Player.
2. The Settlers client should work now.
3. If you need VLC Player, re-install it but when you get to the Prompt of selecting options, uncheck the following.
- Mozilla Plugins
- ActiveX Plugins
4. VLC Player and The Settlers Online client should work without conflicting.
Thanks for this! I have been trying unsuccessfully for over a year to get this working again.. I had an inkling that VLC was part of the problem but your advice has now allowed a perfect running install - koudos :)
There are no plans to close the game servers. Some of the major browsers have said they will be disabling Flash by default at the end of 2020 due to Adobe no longer supporting Flash. This does not mean that Flash and Flash based games will not work. The Settlers Online can also be played in a standalone client that can be downloaded from the frontpage (https://www.thesettlersonline.com/en/download-game).
Google won't be disabling Flash at the end of 2020 .. they will be removing it ..
https://www.blog.google/products/chrome/saying-goodbye-flash-chrome/
These open web technologies became the default experience for Chrome late last year when sites started needing to ask your permission to run Flash. Chrome will continue phasing out Flash over the next few years, first by asking for your permission to run Flash in more situations, and eventually disabling it by default. We will remove Flash completely from Chrome toward the end of 2020.
Microsoft has also said they will be using a Chromium version browser and will follow those time frames and will remove Flash by end of 2020.
https://blogs.windows.com/msedgedev/2019/08/30/update-removing-flash-microsoft-edge-internet-explorer/
In the next version of Microsoft Edge (built on Chromium), we will continue to retire Flash in the same timeframe as other Chromium based browsers. You can learn more of that timeline in this blog post. Flash will initially be disabled, and the user will need to re-enable Flash on a site-by-site basis; Flash will be completely removed from the browser towards the end of 2020.
Mozilla browsers will also not have flash once it is stopped at the end of 2020.
https://blog.mozilla.org/futurereleases/2017/07/25/firefox-roadmap-flash-end-life/
Starting next month, users will choose which websites are able to run the Flash plugin. Flash will be disabled by default for most users in 2019, and only users running the Firefox Extended Support Release (ESR) will be able to continue using Flash through the final end-of-life at the end of 2020. In order to preserve user security, once Flash is no longer supported by Adobe security patches, no version of Firefox will load the plugin.
Based on that... will Settlers Online work still with the client software after 2020 ? Despite Adobe no longer supporting Flash after 2020 and thus decreasing its security protection for people using it ? Or is the settlers online client a non flash reliant client? Will the client be updated as needed going forward, being the only way for people to play the game ?
worked on steam too ,
witch is the same as downloadable client
sparkies2013
28.11.19, 18:03
There are no plans to close the game servers. Some of the major browsers have said they will be disabling Flash by default at the end of 2020 due to Adobe no longer supporting Flash. This does not mean that Flash and Flash based games will not work. The Settlers Online can also be played in a standalone client that can be downloaded from the frontpage (https://www.thesettlersonline.com/en/download-game).
Yer, but it won't work on my Apple Mac :-(
I would like to try the Settlers Online Client but doesn't work :S
I have already installed standalone Adobe Flash Payer 32 PPAPI. There is a link in the message box, I used that, after install and rerun the client same error :S
https://imgur.com/a/YQ3iw6z
Never got the client to work right - besides it requires people to install stuff. How many are sneaking in to play on work computers ?
And how many keep playing a little still - even if we are bored with the game - because of the chat. So I think for me - not chat no game.
I really can't understand why TSO has not already been migrated to HTML5. The TSO project has until the end of 2020 to pull their socks up.
"Adobe Systems said Tuesday that it plans to stop improving and distributing its Flash player by the end of 2020." which would suggest it cannot be downloaded after.
It doesn't work on Wine (Linux) either
TheVictorious
04.01.20, 23:36
worked on steam too ,
witch is the same as downloadable client
Steam will create a new account so you need to start over again from level 1, good luck with that.
I really can't understand why TSO has not already been migrated to HTML5.
If you consider the fact that BB in all their ineptitude managed to give you an opportunity of getting more than 1000€ worth of ingame currency thats essentially free if youre patient enough via the gem pits, you can bank on the game making next to no money.
You can tell theyre unwilling to spend literally anything on this game based alone on the fact that almost all of the new content is bugged in some way, its evident it was never tested and in some cases they arent even in a hurry to fix it.
If you consider the fact that BB in all their ineptitude managed to give you an opportunity of getting more than 1000€ worth of ingame currency thats essentially free if youre patient enough via the gem pits, you can bank on the game making next to no money.
You can tell theyre unwilling to spend literally anything on this game based alone on the fact that almost all of the new content is bugged in some way, its evident it was never tested and in some cases they arent even in a hurry to fix it.
You are under estimatting how much people spend on gems. On my small to medium guild alone we have lots of people buying gems. And i know a lot more that do. If BB wouldn't be making money with the game it would have been shut down already, look at what happened to Anno online.
Currently BB is making the new settlers game and i bet that's what their focus is now, if that game happens to be good and re-egnite some the settlers fever we might end up seeing a rework of tso down the line if not, the game will shut down before the end of the year. They can try hide it as much as they want but it's cristal clear.
You are under estimatting how much people spend on gems.
Yea I certainly overestimate how intelligent people are, spending money on a poor quality product they could partially get for free.
Also given the history of the game seems like some people apparently have issues treating themselves with amount of respect a paying customer deserves (which by the way is one of the only things I think is keeping the game afloat; if people had the decency to walk away after ie. not being unable to play the game because of some untested changes went through and broke the game, we wouldnt have to have this conversation)
how do you think companies like EA trive? People are stupid... lol
BilboBadger
17.01.20, 02:25
Currently BB is making the new settlers game and i bet that's what their focus is now, if that game happens to be good and re-egnite some the settlers fever we might end up seeing a rework of tso down the line if not, the game will shut down before the end of the year. They can try hide it as much as they want but it's cristal clear.
Exactly - anyone thinking TSO will still be going after 2020 is deluding themselves, irrespective of what BB are claiming in here. IIRC, they said the same thing about Anno Online (which I enjoyed more than TSO) & then pulled the plug on it. It's why I've lost all faith in BB, stopped playing TSO & won't be buying any of their products again.
Torquemarda
17.01.20, 12:27
For me the client isn't a workable solution. Chrom is default browser, if I launch the game in Chrome it fails to properly load with an error at about the point it goes to show the island. If I run Incognito mode it works fine. Yes, tried twice with useless support to resolve, no such luck. I downloaded the client, tried to run game, exactly the same point of failure as Chrome. So for me, game dies December :(
Can you explain what happened with Anno Online? Same situation was like here? Unusually many innovation very frequently before the end?
BilboBadger
17.01.20, 22:35
Can you explain what happened with Anno Online? Same situation was like here? Unusually many innovation very frequently before the end?
Bear in mind this is from memory & the Anno website has, not surprisingly, disappeared. BB at the time went to great lengths to assure the player-base that it was situation normal for Anno & then they pulled the plug. It died on 31-Jan 2018 with little more than a whimper. The only thing I really remember was BB pushing their MTx store (rubies, IIRC) right up to the end! The game itself actually died the year before, when it entered maintenance mode - but BB still claimed (publicly, at least) that all was fine. The only difference this time around is the underlying technology that makes STO possible is being dumped by anyone/everyone. But the outcome is the same & the noises being made by BB are the same.
I just wish they could be straight with people, they are losing loyal supporters simply because they are treating them like idiots. Typical AAA practice, as it transpires - treat your customers with contempt .. the 'Whales' will continue to keep us afloat & sod the rest.
"official" response in Twitter
https://twitter.com/TSO_UK/status/1226771172697804801
hi Tina, We can confirm that we do NOT plan to end our game. At this moment we're testing Flash alternatives, to choose the one suiting best to our game. Once the decision is made, it will be announced with instructions. Thank you for your patience.
What does it mean "At this moment we're testing Flash alternatives"
Settlers client browser an alternatives too? :) I hope not :)
well we are close to 6 month away so it would be nice to finally get som updates, i am holding my wallet closed,
because of the lag of info from you BB, that is not alright to keep us in suspense that long,
all we have got is the same lame answer for more than 2 years now.
or we might as well close our accounts.
Yes, some info would be nice. I was looking at last gem sale, as I have some things I would like to buy for my island, if I knew that the game would continue to run after 2020.
But as it is, I am not spending anything on Settlers Online.
is anyone using their mini game app at all?
Yes, some info would be nice. I was looking at last gem sale, as I have some things I would like to buy for my island, if I knew that the game would continue to run after 2020.
But as it is, I am not spending anything on Settlers Online.
I am exactly the same pick up my card yesterday then put it down again have no issues spending money on a game i enjoy but i do have issue throwing money away if i cant get to enjoy it
lordloocan
19.05.20, 09:44
Same here, no info equals no cash spent. Give us some honest information and you might make a few more euros BB.
Same here, no info equals no cash spent. Give us some honest information and you might make a few more euros BB.
So your issue here is that you refuse to believe what they have already told us, yet you want them to tell you more. I can only see one way to resolve this quandary and that is to wait until after development of flash has ceased.
So your issue here is that you refuse to believe what they have already told us, yet you want them to tell you more. I can only see one way to resolve this quandary and that is to wait until after development of flash has ceased.
Believe what that they say there working on it? Thats most likely the truth doesnt mean they found a solution and if they havent found one by now I doubt they will they have had a while to work on it and if they had a way to keep the game going they would of said this is the way we are thinking of going but your right 12 months from now we will all be playing or will have forgotten tso existed
lordloocan
19.05.20, 20:06
So your issue here is that you refuse to believe what they have already told us, yet you want them to tell you more. I can only see one way to resolve this quandary and that is to wait until after development of flash has ceased.
Then they will be waiting that long before they get anymore of my bank account I guess.
maxmanfive
23.05.20, 21:15
I am now getting a message saying that google chrome will not be supporting flash after end of 2020.
I am now getting a message saying that google chrome will not be supporting flash after end of 2020.
don't use Chrome then :)
So your issue here is that you refuse to believe what they have already told us, yet you want them to tell you more. I can only see one way to resolve this quandary and that is to wait until after development of flash has ceased.
They have not said anything.
All they have said, on a twitter post is that they are looking at options. There is nothing here on the game forums.
I want to see definitive plans, what they are doing and when. Until then I am not investing anything in Settlers Online.
looking at options.
that line is getting old fast,heard it for 2 years now.
Mannerheim
26.05.20, 18:40
It's just not Chrome removing the support but all major browser vendors are doing the same. Most of the players use these to play and they will not or literally cannot install some special versions of browsers or downloadable applications to play. The current slim browser is a challenge of its own for many to get even to run and using it is less convenient to use than browsers, eg. refreshing the game to resolve an issue or clearing the cache due corrupt building gfx is not as easy or fast and you will miss out browser features like accessibility for extra zoom, color changes etc.
Plenty of people have already quit on Chrome, Firefox etc. hindering the Flash use with blocking messages and other warning and activation operations or for the downloadable version just check Steam rating and top negative reviews filled with not working problems. Even if there will be bunch of people using special or older versions of browsers or using the downloadable version it wont help much if the user base shrinks a lot to the point that is no longer viable to keep all servers running. It will literally be a gamble to invest any money to the game if your server could be shutdown in a month. With the current communication trend of BB it kinda already is.
Sadly BB has officially said several times NO to the pretty much only tech to keep playing in browsers which is HTML5 (incl. webgl etc.) and sadly at the same have not confirmed any solid plan for the end of 2020. Based on BB posts, mostly from German forums (which is pretty much the only place they actively interact with people outside changelog and event diary threads) they have been looking at alternative solutions for over 5 years now while denying HTML5.
This, almost 3 years old post from test server had at least some idea what they will look at but after all this time they should be already working on something and not be looking for solution: https://forum.tsotesting.com/threads/22628-Flash-EOL-2020?p=46621&viewfull=1#post46621
Since there is nothing to share after all this time and they just repeat the same "looking at alternatives" seems to indicate they already gave up long time ago but not will not confirm it to not hinder the remaining gem sales. Then near end of the year they will pull off the same thing they did with Anno Online.
Unfortunately I agree 100% with Mannerheim's post. At the moment I do not believe there will be a Settlers Online game after december this year. :(
Although Adobe will stop support and development of flash in 2020 that doesn't mean you Will no longer able to use flash from that point. Most web browsers now no longer officially support flash but you can still install it and use it.
if thats the case we should still be able to play in 2021.
but thats not what i am on about.
can the game itself be converted into work like an windows store app???
Mannerheim
27.05.20, 14:35
Although Adobe will stop support and development of flash in 2020 that doesn't mean you Will no longer able to use flash from that point. Most web browsers now no longer officially support flash but you can still install it and use it.
But you literally cannot use it with those browsers even if you manually install flash. Browsers are removing the plugin interface that Flash uses so it's not a matter of user preference.
Here is example info from Firefox https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Plugins/Roadmap
can the game itself be converted into work like an windows store app???
They already did a version that is used in Steam and is available at the front page. Its the one I mentioned earlier post that works poorly for many.
https://www.thesettlersonline.com/en/download-game
i know
but that is not a windows store app, even it have no mac support, the frontpage browser you refer to,
and it still uses flash though.
Mannerheim
27.05.20, 20:13
Windows store has pretty strict rules for apps that are released there and app relying on unsecure manual install or embedded flash is most likely automatically rejected.
If you just meant a full port to a native windows only app then they could have just made a HTML5 version that would have worked with windows, macos, linux, chromebook, etc. and even with most high end tablets and mobile phones. Even our guild has 3-5 players using mac or linux.
thanks for that just what i wondered about
it would be nice to have an update on the flash situation please with just 6 months to go until flash is not supported - i use microsoft edge and get a warning every day when i try to login. if i need to spend all my gems in the next six months so that i can get as far as possible before everything stops and the game is inaccessible then i would like to know
You better start spending then.
with no proper updates or anything and the domain expires on the 5/2021 seems to me like am on a echo of Anno
with no proper updates or anything and the domain expires on the 5/2021 seems to me like am on a echo of Anno
If the game does just die off shame they covered themselves from all the people who would rightfully want chargebacks to money spent as they would know the game was ending and withhold that info to increase sales
alot of peeps don't know about domain stuff hades ,, what i don't like is no updates from either ubisoft or bb the fact that its these who have paid for gems over the many many years to keep this game going and for what ? any good company would keep their customer's uptodate ,, seems they not learned from anno
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all this smells tbh and if i was to use me finger i would have to wash it
lordloocan
02.07.20, 11:41
with no proper updates or anything and the domain expires on the 5/2021 seems to me like am on a echo of Anno
Can they renew the domain?
Can they renew the domain?
yes lordloocan but with the TOS being this popular they normally renew very early ,, alot of popular games and other sites normally do the same renew early
we will have to see what happens BUT would be nice for some input from either ubisoft or bb
Mannerheim
02.07.20, 14:02
Adobe updated various pages related to Flash last month. Not only will the support end at the end of the year but the availability will be gone as they will remove the download links and it will be fully removed from other automatic systems like Windows update. On top of that there will be no way to use the flash player to run any content after the end date that unless you are a enterprise customer with a custom support plan. On some site it was speculated mentioned that there is a built in time lock or a server query that will happen after that date and will block the content. This would mean that the Slim browser will not work either unless you use a cracked/tampered version of the Flash runtime.
joeonthego
02.07.20, 16:06
So, basically, game dies?
joeonthego without no updates from ubisoft/bb ,, i myself will be leaving as i can't go through the same as what happend with anno again : they say no news is good news, in this case it different as the security of your computer is paramount which seems to be a miss with both of them ,,
Mannerheim
02.07.20, 18:24
Yeah BB has previously said that the Slim browser will be the alternative solution after 2020 but that no longer seems like a possibility after the recent Adobe posts. For any other kind of working solution they have said they are looking into them but that has been now said for over 3-5 years without any kind of hopeful information being ever shared. Less than 6 months left and by now they could have had at least share a blog post of possible alternatives they are actually looking into like many other companies did after the original Adobe announcement 2-3 years ago.
It just seems that they know they have hit the end of the road but cannot admit it in public because it would cut all further gem sales down to zero and kill further new player acquisition.
Here is one of the recent Adobe pages https://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/end-of-life.html
BB has officially said no to the 2. point several times.
well christmas event cannot be played into the new year then,
what a sad thing.
Yeah BB has previously said that the Slim browser will be the alternative solution after 2020 but that no longer seems like a possibility after the recent Adobe posts. For any other kind of working solution they have said they are looking into them but that has been now said for over 3-5 years without any kind of hopeful information being ever shared. Less than 6 months left and by now they could have had at least share a blog post of possible alternatives they are actually looking into like many other companies did after the original Adobe announcement 2-3 years ago.
It just seems that they know they have hit the end of the road but cannot admit it in public because it would cut all further gem sales down to zero and kill further new player acquisition.
Here is one of the recent Adobe pages https://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/end-of-life.html
BB has officially said no to the 2. point several times.
yeah and the milking of gems points to that the one on now is the 3rd in 2 weeks ....I remember when it was weeks to months apart now it's weekly ...and it's a shame they couldnt be open and honest
Ok, I don't understand something, can someone explain it?
I have flash player on my computer, I use slim browser. If TSO servers running, I can play for years.
BB break the rules if servers will run after 2020? Why TSO servers must shut down at New Year's Eve?
The flash player will be eliminate itself? OS won't load activex?
Mannerheim
03.07.20, 14:45
Ok, I don't understand something, can someone explain it?
I have flash player on my computer, I use slim browser. If TSO servers running, I can play for years.
BB break the rules if servers will run after 2020? Why TSO servers must shut down at New Year's Eve?
The flash player will be eliminate itself? OS won't load activex?
No the servers don't have to be closed and BB will not be breaking any rules even if the game continues. One of the problems is that how many people will be able to play after 2020 so it is profitable to keep the servers running. They will not run the servers for a low number of people if only few buy gems and staff/server costs are more than gem sales.
Another issue is Flash. It will be removed from all browsers. Slim browser does not work on linux or newest macos. On top of that Flash will not be available and it might have a built in time lock/server check for 2021. It is also against all recommendations to even use Flash after that date and some people will have no choice but to follow that guideline.
Will Adobe make previous versions of Adobe Flash Player available for download after 2020?
No. Adobe will be removing Flash Player download pages from its site and Flash-based content will be blocked from running in Adobe Flash Player after the EOL Date. Adobe always recommends using the latest, supported and up-to-date software. Customers should not use Flash Player after the EOL Date since it will not be supported by Adobe.
Thx! That is mean I need to download an older version of flash (that is not include blocking code) if I want to play with TSO in the next year? :S
Mannerheim
03.07.20, 17:13
Thx! That is mean I need to download an older version of flash (that is not include blocking code) if I want to play with TSO in the next year? :S
Probably. But then again it does not matter if some people find alternative unofficial ways to play if not everyone will do the same. Lots of people will quit playing and then they will close the game servers. BB needs to make an easy and official way to play or it's game over.
Probably. But then again it does not matter if some people find alternative unofficial ways to play if not everyone will do the same. Lots of people will quit playing and then they will close the game servers. BB needs to make an easy and official way to play or it's game over.
Reminds me when lords of ultima closed online they didnt give much notice on that and all in game currency had to be used up or lost...they have had years to sort this heck even zynga farmville i believe have adapted .....but all we get is they are not closing the game that may be true but no alternative answers have been given so all we can do is speculate from what we can find...cant tell me that hasnt hurt sales prob why we get so many gem sales now.... I have spent thousands on this game and would spend more if i knew it had a few more years self life ...but I do know if we get done over i will never spend a penny on one of their games again ..now that's only a small drop in a vast ocean but i wont be alone in that thinking
they are theft at this moment selling gems like they do
i hope that you guys at development take a consideration for mac users and chromebook users, i play in chromebrowser on my chromebook, and not planning to buy a windowslaptop just for the settlers game, don take this the wrong way, i am addicted to this game, but when i can play on my mac or my chromebook, i'll have to find another hobby, just a shame for all the money i put in
will am playing forge of empires again for a temporary see how i get on with as they seem to listen to their customer base and implemented html5 ,, just goes to show with the lack of no reply how the devs have no respect,, am pretty sure am gonna post on every game forum am registered to, see if we can boycott both ubisoft and bluebyte like we did with code masters and their shocking tactics :D ...
A simple update with anything would be great
will am playing forge of empires again for a temporary see how i get on with as they seem to listen to their customer base and implemented html5 ,, just goes to show with the lack of no reply how the devs have no respect,, am pretty sure am gonna post on every game forum am registered to, see if we can boycott both ubisoft and bluebyte like we did with code masters and their shocking tactics :D ...
A simple update with anything would be great
Trafffer has stated in global a couple of times over the last few days that they will let us know when they have something to tells us beyond what we have been told in the past.
Trafffer has stated in global a couple of times over the last few days that they will let us know when they have something to tells us beyond what we have been told in the past.
am not at all having a go at u Dorotheus so please don't think i am
Ubisoft bluebyte are not very good at communication just look at past history have they learned anything nope ,, so unless something gets mentioned on both here or their facegay page then i will believe ..
many many months a mod said their where flying pigs don't mean to say i have to believe it again on past history like Anno
Some news for BB_Traffer on the .net forum:
"We can confirm that we do NOT plan to end our game. At this moment we're testing Flash alternatives, to choose the one suiting best to our game. Once the decision is made, it will be announced with instructions. Thank you for your patience" It's our TWEET from February.
Once there is any update, I will post it."
Maybe this will bring some rest in this discussion.
i don't see any reason to boycott them, only children in a kindergarten behave that way ;)
Mannerheim
09.07.20, 19:57
Some news for BB_Traffer on the .net forum:
"We can confirm that we do NOT plan to end our game. At this moment we're testing Flash alternatives, to choose the one suiting best to our game. Once the decision is made, it will be announced with instructions. Thank you for your patience" It's our TWEET from February.
Once there is any update, I will post it."
Maybe this will bring some rest in this discussion.
It does not as it's from February. Actually it makes things just look more alarming as it's now almost 6 months from that tweet and they were doing the same thing they were doing 2 years ago which is looking for an alternative. At this point of the year as EOL is here in 5 months you should no longer be looking for alternatives but already implementing them as they should be tested and production ready shape in November. Some browsers will remove the support in early December as developers leave for holidays. I say November because they also have to deploy the new solution to Steam and to all servers if it requires more changes than just a new download. At the moment the Slim browser does not even support the Ubisoft login properly but they have not updated it.
Regardless if they have it ready or not there should have been a blog post of what have they picked as their solution or what options they are even looking at as they have clearly said HTML5 will never happen. Two of our guild members with join dates from 2012 just quit the game now in this event due lack of communication and as it looks like the game has no solid future.
i don't see any reason to boycott them, only children in a kindergarten behave that way ;)
u feel that way if you want, its not being like a kid ,, i feel differently tbh the only way big company's like this actually listen is through sales MONEY talks on games likes this ,, no point in moaning , making complaints ,, if nothing is done i certainly won't being playing anything ubisoft bluebyte related BUT i will make my feelings heard evan no their is plenty of other games out their.
It does not as it's from February. Actually it makes things just look more alarming as it's now almost 6 months from that tweet and they were doing the same thing they were doing 2 years ago which is looking for an alternative. At this point of the year as EOL is here in 5 months you should no longer be looking for alternatives but already implementing them as they should be tested and production ready shape in November. Some browsers will remove the support in early December as developers leave for holidays. I say November because they also have to deploy the new solution to Steam and to all servers if it requires more changes than just a new download. At the moment the Slim browser does not even support the Ubisoft login properly but they have not updated it.
Regardless if they have it ready or not there should have been a blog post of what have they picked as their solution or what options they are even looking at as they have clearly said HTML5 will never happen. Two of our guild members with join dates from 2012 just quit the game now in this event due lack of communication and as it looks like the game has no solid future.
I could not agree more. When I first read that tweet way back in February I was very optimistic. But its obvious that to have no more recent assurances can only mean one thing
u feel that way if you want, its not being like a kid ,, i feel differently tbh the only way big company's like this actually listen is through sales MONEY talks on games likes this ,, no point in moaning , making complaints ,, if nothing is done i certainly won't being playing anything ubisoft bluebyte related BUT i will make my feelings heard evan no their is plenty of other games out their.
and thats the way you fell :)
harlequin63
11.07.20, 08:59
lets be honest , if this goes the settlers name will be remembered by me for
1. the re-issues of the original games, still with bugs : https://forums.ubisoft.com/forumdisplay.php/1917-Technical-Questions-amp-Bug-Reports
2. the new settlers game , postponed indefinitely : https://www.thesettlers-alliance.com/en/a-message-from-the-the-settlers-team/
3. the web game that keeps adding bugs , and has many long term never fixed properly bugs : https://forum.thesettlersonline.com/forums/182-Bugs-amp-Technical-Issues
I will continue to play due to friends i have made here, BUT, will not be investing long term, i remember how quickly they shut down anno-online.
funny how the devs answer chat / login / gems problems but the MAJOR 1 this thread they stay clear from lol :P
funny how the devs answer chat / login / gems problems but the MAJOR 1 this thread they stay clear from lol :P
Thats prob because they dont want to be caught in a lie ....it's better to ignore and evade then to lie
RinceWinde
18.07.20, 10:27
Thats prob because they dont want to be caught in a lie ....it's better to ignore and evade then to lie
*than
That little vowel changed the meaning of the sentence :)
Thats prob because they dont want to be caught in a lie ....it's better to ignore and evade then to lie
the TSO way ,, to all i would start looking for a TEMP new browser game if i was you
nothing can take over for settlers its a life style
nothing can take over for settlers its a life style
Funny, but sort of true. Haven't found a game that could replace TSO for me.
Funny, but sort of true. Haven't found a game that could replace TSO for me.
If you find it, write it down here please!
when many of us have played since amiga days, its very hard to replace,
I still love playing settlers II
when many of us have played since amiga days, its very hard to replace,
I still love playing settlers II
big difference to the amiga/pc games than the Browser based game :D
that's true online version its best game ever made
if this one's the best game ever made for you, then clearly you havent seen much :)
i played over 1200 games both on pc and online i seen it all
if this one's the best game ever made for you, then clearly you havent seen much :)
Which do you consider to be the best for you? And when you are at it, can you give us the list of 3 best games in your ranking? :)
cheethamhill
21.07.20, 14:27
if this one's the best game ever made for you, then clearly you havent seen much :)
Nine years playing(must really hate it) and the three years I have been here I am struggling to find a post where you're not putting the game down...why you still here?
Nine years playing(must really hate it) and the three years I have been here I am struggling to find a post where you're not putting the game down...why you still here?
;)
Nine years playing(must really hate it) and the three years I have been here I am struggling to find a post where you're not putting the game down...
Oddly enough my last post wasn't about putting the game down, but being genuinely curious why someone would consider this, out of all possibilities, the greatest game of all time, especially in a thread about the game creator neglecting to keep that "greatest" game alive.
Also :
Nine years playing
I dont know if anyone told you that, but you can log out of any amount of time and your account remains existing :)
why you still here?
Because past certain level of incompetence things start to get amusing. Just now, with the latest update, on polish version they struggled even with properly translating the names of the 2 buildings they introduced. Gave some people a few laughs.
Oddly enough my last post wasn't about putting the game down, but being genuinely curious why someone would consider this, out of all possibilities, the greatest game of all time, especially in a thread about the game creator neglecting to keep that "greatest" game alive.
Also :
I dont know if anyone told you that, but you can log out of any amount of time and your account remains existing :)
Because past certain level of incompetence things start to get amusing. Just now, with the latest update, on polish version they struggled even with properly translating the names of the 2 buildings they introduced. Gave some people a few laughs.
ya can't make it up a lol :D
dont know if this have been posted in english forum from nl forum
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Dear players,
As BB_Alex already wrote in the test server forum, no TSO2 or HTML5 client is planned. Nevertheless, we have the flash situation in mind and are working on different ways to tackle the problem of the Flash player, which will be eliminated by 2020 at the latest. One idea is a standalone client, similar to the one we are currently using. - We are NOT working on HTML 5 or TSO 2.0. - We are indeed working on a plan for a time when Flash is no longer supported by browsers.
We will not release any HTML5 version of TSO. What will work, however, if the browser doesn't want to run Flash anymore, is our downloadable client. The so-called "Slim Browser". It doesn't make a hole in the system because it can't be used for services other than our game. From that point on, I am sure that there will still be browsers that run Flash, in some kind of sandbox form.
But so far not even Adobe has published its final planning, the browsers (except for a few) have not discussed any changes in the handling of the plugins, Sandbox Flash will continue to exist and we have also noted solutions on our part. What nobody knows yet is if/how or at all Adobe provides Flash in code form, browser, usage release or usage "without support" (known e.g. from Windows XP) and so on. Currently, there are still many possibilities and open points, but that you are already worried about a possible end, is unfounded.
Should there ever be a change at any time, in any form whatsoever, we would inform you about it across all platforms. So far this is not even planned.
Regards,
BB_Sious
Situation has changed since that.
- No support from Adobe.
- All major browsers will stop running Flash and won't include the Flash plugin after 12/2020.
- Flash plugin won't be downloadable from Adobe.
- without Flash plugin even the "slim browser" doesn't work.
- Adobe won't license Flash so it can't be distributed as part of any app.
There won't be any conclusive answer on how and if they proceed. If they are working on something, they wont say till they know it works, if they dont look for an alternate solution but just the "sandbox" or the pull plug option, they wont say either as that will lead to exodus
So for them it is a loss whatever they do, if they post it has effects, if they don't post people are upset and it has effects
with not posting at least they keep their option to say: we didn't know yet etc so not posting until stuff is final will be their least painful option
Some things just have to go the an end :) plenty of other games on the market lol
AndyGadget
28.07.20, 09:00
It does sound like the end - 22 weeks until there is no standard browser product that allows flash or any flash related plugin/extension to be loaded.
Every other mainstream flash based game I have played that wants to continue on into 2021 has already released new game versions using alternate technologies.
This "we are still looking at things" feels like we are all being lied to now.
Either confirm - we have something non-flash that we are trying to get ready for 2021 - or admit that we are should all prepare ourselves for a grand farewell party as part of the Christmas event.
thorn-princess
28.07.20, 09:07
I tried to download it, but it keeps going in a circle, load chrome, done, load adobe, done, but still it asks me to do it, wont go past that screen
cheethamhill
28.07.20, 09:10
If you're using the Game Installer and not the Browser to play the game you need to install this Adobe Flash Player for Firefox from Adobe website.
https://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/otherversions/
Step 1:
Operating System: Select Windows 10
Step2:
Select a version: FP 32 for Firefox - NPAPI
Follow the prompts. Should be all set ;-)
try that
posted yesterday from BB_Kumakun on the german forums regarding flash
We have some positive news on the subject and will be discussing it in more detail around September. Until then, please be patient. We would also like to thank you for all your questions and ideas on the topic. This shows us that you really care about the game - us too!
well finally some news :)
cant get the download client to work for me, keeps going round and round in circles, tried the "get other version" that does'nt help
cant get the download client to work for me, keeps going round and round in circles, tried the "get other version" that does'nt help
i've been trying for over a month now with no luck
i'm not going past the login details. my guess is that it's not updated with the new login server code
https://forum.tsotesting.com/threads/23733-Another-thread-of-...-U-know
BB_Trafffer
02.09.20, 12:00
Please check our announcement HERE. (https://forum.thesettlersonline.com/threads/37849-The-future-of-TSO)
I will close this thread, so please continue the discussion in the feedback thread.
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