View Full Version : How Fast Can You Finish a Alibaba and Young Woodcutter?
Admiral_Jov
23.08.19, 23:49
If its under 30 minutes i would like to know what guide do you use, some tips and techniques as well.
Been trying to scout post run 4 YWC advs with the aid of detailed star chart buff plus platinum shoes, trying to save few more minutes or seconds for the 5th adv. This is my first run prnt.sc/ows51k (29 minutes) but the the 2nd, 3rd and 4th is 32-33 minutes ended up no scout post time save for the 5th one.
For a 2nd thief I did manage 4x times and save 8 minutes of the scout post time for the 5th one, twice this week,,
the adventure addict
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that time is still impressive i can only manage 3 ywc in the two hr window what guide are you using
Admiral_Jov
24.08.19, 05:48
just the wiki.eu guide ginny31
Very strange thought i had replied to this thread oh well was wondering what guide you used as i have only been able to finish 2 ywc and start a 3rd i dont use blocks so maybe thats where the extra time is made up
Admiral_Jov
24.08.19, 13:30
Well i used blocks and my tavern gens (6) and MOD (2) is loaded with units already before i start the run (all of them are skilled with navigational crash course),, well you replied on the Northisle forum discussion,, i dunno how to delete a thread btw,, I do the wiki.eu guide.
here is 20 min run , all attacks from landing zone .. thanks to Grubymis for idea
https://prnt.sc/s2ilnz
here is 20 min run , all attacks from landing zone .. thanks to Grubymis for idea
https://prnt.sc/s2ilnz
would be interested in seeing the attacks cant see how u can get 20 mins unless you doing blocks i guess that could shave time
cheethamhill
21.04.20, 14:48
17 is my fastest but 18/19 is average=plat shoes no buffs 7 per obs if lucky with no mishaps or freezes but 6 quite easily...
same for 2nd Thief,ToW 28min,3rd 37min and BP 57min...Buff kills used only on ToW like many others I guess
https://prnt.sc/qzl89d
lordloocan
21.04.20, 19:02
17 is my fastest but 18/19 is average=plat shoes no buffs 7 per obs if lucky with no mishaps or freezes but 6 quite easily...
same for 2nd Thief,ToW 28min,3rd 37min and BP 57min...Buff kills used only on ToW like many others I guess
https://prnt.sc/qzl89d
Does that include travel times???
Would love to see your guides for them.
17 is my fastest but 18/19 is average=plat shoes no buffs 7 per obs if lucky with no mishaps or freezes but 6 quite easily...
same for 2nd Thief,ToW 28min,3rd 37min and BP 57min...Buff kills used only on ToW like many others I guess
https://prnt.sc/qzl89d
Thats impressive but a guide would be handy cant see anyway you did this the way i do it doesnt use the same gen more then once so not waiting on them returning so I assuming you are using blocks ..which is still surprising to me as if i am killing every camp with a gen that isnt used on another camp would assume it uses the same time as using ones to block
Does that include travel times???
Would love to see your guides for them.
Has to include traveling to the adv at least as timer starts as soon as you open the map
cheethamhill
22.04.20, 02:23
17 is my fastest but 18/19 is average=plat shoes no buffs 7 per obs if lucky with no mishaps or freezes but 6 quite easily...
same for 2nd Thief,ToW 28min,3rd 37min and BP 57min...Buff kills used only on ToW like many others I guess
https://prnt.sc/qzl89d
Travel time is always counted as it part of the adventure so yes all times are from opening adv on home island till last camp killed/final quest completed...
every guide I make is hand written but one day soon I will screen record all my guides and place on youtube
and save making another post,yes blocks are used..On YWC I use 5 blocks.
Travel time is always counted as it part of the adventure so yes all times are from opening adv on home island till last camp killed/final quest completed...
every guide I make is hand written but one day soon I will screen record all my guides and place on youtube
Impatiently waiting for that. I think it will be inspiring. :)
WildTaurus
23.04.20, 03:41
This all seems really cool but i definitely must be doing a lot of things wrong since i've only hit down to 31 minutes so far (from landing time i think, always using Platinum Horseshoes) but i knew i could hit around 25 or below. My problem now is, what in the world am i doing wrong? Lol.
I'm using 4 Marry Christmas Generals, 2 Steadfast, 1 Vargus, 1 Anslem and Boriswith 1 Nusala sacking at final Boss followed by 2 YGGs with Steadfast/Boris clearing up the Boss.
I have no Observatory but now i got all 3 Cloaked Generals and i'm thinking, i could start off with at least 3 to 5-6 first attacks with Cloaked as they have the traveling speed advantage and then continue with the rest of the Generals (all always max Navigation Crash Course) and switch them up better on the later parts too and definitely work out some way about the waves there, that's not nice. I'd appreciate any suggestions on that really. I tried a few ways to fix the final Boss waves and it just turns pretty messed up usually (loses are ridiculous).
One thing i do that helps me quite a bit usually is that i fire up Generals from the previous Sector usually so i don't have to take up place in front or wait for anything, as soon as the previous shots pass the flag, it's go time. The other thing is, i only have 1 set of Generals so i can't switch them up like i assume Hades8840 was saying. But another way to help gain a few seconds of time is to place your Generals close by around Storehouses in proper order matching their arrival timing you want and once you send 1 set of Generals, you can fix up the other set before the fresh set is ready to start attacking. It's a tiny difference and might not be able to do it for more than the first time without wasting more time than you gain but it is around half a minute i think usually so it counts for the edge.
Anyway, good luck everyone. I'll be back. :)
This all seems really cool but i definitely must be doing a lot of things wrong since i've only hit down to 31 minutes so far (from landing time i think, always using Platinum Horseshoes) but i knew i could hit around 25 or below. My problem now is, what in the world am i doing wrong? Lol.
I'm using 4 Marry Christmas Generals, 2 Steadfast, 1 Vargus, 1 Anslem and Boriswith 1 Nusala sacking at final Boss followed by 2 YGGs with Steadfast/Boris clearing up the Boss.
I have no Observatory but now i got all 3 Cloaked Generals and i'm thinking, i could start off with at least 3 to 5-6 first attacks with Cloaked as they have the traveling speed advantage and then continue with the rest of the Generals (all always max Navigation Crash Course) and switch them up better on the later parts too and definitely work out some way about the waves there, that's not nice. I'd appreciate any suggestions on that really. I tried a few ways to fix the final Boss waves and it just turns pretty messed up usually (loses are ridiculous).
One thing i do that helps me quite a bit usually is that i fire up Generals from the previous Sector usually so i don't have to take up place in front or wait for anything, as soon as the previous shots pass the flag, it's go time. The other thing is, i only have 1 set of Generals so i can't switch them up like i assume Hades8840 was saying. But another way to help gain a few seconds of time is to place your Generals close by around Storehouses in proper order matching their arrival timing you want and once you send 1 set of Generals, you can fix up the other set before the fresh set is ready to start attacking. It's a tiny difference and might not be able to do it for more than the first time without wasting more time than you gain but it is around half a minute i think usually so it counts for the edge.
Anyway, good luck everyone. I'll be back. :)
My set I only use a gen per attack none are ever reused but some take out 2-3 camps each and the best i can do is 27 minutes when using the observatory and shoes...as my gens pretty much do what blocking does they just kill everything I cant see where any more time could be shaved ...as my older gen takes out camps 12-14 on the wiki .. mary takes out 15 followed right behind two gens taking out camps 18-19 20 and 22 before camp 14 is even distroyed
This is my attacking setup for woodcutter during events....
I can finish the map (no blocks) including travel time (with Observatory) and shoes active in 25 minutes. By the time I have finished I have already sent at least 1/2 the gens home so they are immediately ready to resend. I dont use MG, Nus or YGG as they are all kept on home island to do TR lootspots. Obviously this playing style is only sensible during events as other times I typically block. Sometimes I send all gens from the landing zone with a little pause between gens if they are attacking as part of a chain so the later gens dont get intercepted. Sometimes I move them up as each sector is cleared. Neither way seems much quicker or slower than the other, the main benefit is less walking time for the later gens meaning I get to send them home quicker.
https://i.imgur.com/x40zM3O.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/x40zM3O.jpg
This is my attacking setup for woodcutter during events....
I can finish the map (no blocks) including travel time (with Observatory) and shoes active in 25 minutes. By the time I have finished I have already sent at least 1/2 the gens home so they are immediately ready to resend. I dont use MG, Nus or YGG as they are all kept on home island to do TR lootspots. Obviously this playing style is only sensible during events as other times I typically block. Sometimes I send all gens from the landing zone with a little pause between gens if they are attacking as part of a chain so the later gens dont get intercepted. Sometimes I move them up as each sector is cleared. Neither way seems much quicker or slower than the other, the main benefit is less walking time for the later gens meaning I get to send them home quicker.
https://i.imgur.com/x40zM3O.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/x40zM3O.jpg
lol mine is pretty much the same the map is around somewhere couple gens difference but same attacks pretty much ..but urs is a little faster must be taking too long somewhere and i dont reuse any gens
Morning Hades
When sending the gens to attack, I release them based upon not getting intercepted by the camps (remembering that leaders dont intercept. For example when sending the 3.1 attack, I only have to leave enough space to not be intercepted by 2.4, I can ignore 2.5 as he wont intercept. The same goes for the 2 attacks for 4.1/4.2 and 4.3/4,4 - The only camp in this group that will intercept later attacks is 4.1 so the attack on 5.1 can be sent fairly quickly.
BB_Trafffer
11.05.20, 10:49
Nice to see so many strategies!
guess i'll be ok during events: my fast ywc (http://prntscr.com/suhrov)
Thejollyone
05.06.20, 19:29
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guess i'll be ok during events: my fast ywc (http://prntscr.com/suhrov)
Thats great isnt much point posting it though if you dont show how you did it .I still cant get it that low and I am not waiting on any gens to return nor waiting on any to complete a attack only way i could drop it lower but be using a buff to remove the odd camp
Thats great isnt much point posting it though if you dont show how you did it .I still cant get it that low and I am not waiting on any gens to return nor waiting on any to complete a attack only way i could drop it lower but be using a buff to remove the odd camp
this is it (http://prntscr.com/svo5cg)
all from landing
this is it (http://prntscr.com/suy9gp)
all from landing
see mine used to be similar as in a gen would take out multiple camps but that seem to make it longer to do ...also looking at your map it shows the 3 cloaks but doesnt say which cloak takes out which camps
see mine used to be similar as in a gen would take out multiple camps but that seem to make it longer to do ...also looking at your map it shows the 3 cloaks but doesnt say which cloak takes out which camps
they are sent in that order towards the last camp in that list (10)
losing about 600S, 500MS and 400K. peanuts :)
they are sent in that order towards the last camp in that list (10)
losing about 600S, 500MS and 400K. peanuts :)
hmmm if you sent all 3 one after the other depending where they landed there order could change unless it doesnt matter what camp is hit by what gen? also you would have to wait till your other gens arrived because as one takes out camp 2 you would need the other gen to take out camp 3 as cloaked arrive first doesnt waste some time
hmmm if you sent all 3 one after the other depending where they landed there order could change unless it doesnt matter what camp is hit by what gen? also you would have to wait till your other gens arrived because as one takes out camp 2 you would need the other gen to take out camp 3 as cloaked arrive first doesnt waste some time
they are all flowing in that order towards their last target :)
they are all flowing in that order towards their last target :)
my problem is camp is camp 3 you get intercepted which is a shame as cloak arrive earlier you have to wait on the older gem to turn up before you can attack the rest of the chain
my problem is camp is camp 3 you get intercepted which is a shame as cloak arrive earlier you have to wait on the older gem to turn up before you can attack the rest of the chain
it skips that one and moves to the next one. my guide has no holdups :)
it skips that one and moves to the next one. my guide has no holdups :)
really i tried and after the cloaked killed camp 2 instead of going to camp 5 it tried to kill camp 3
Just retested and your right does by pass the camp which is really handy and i sent them all after each other and hey went through each camp till camp 10 when the last gen got there he had lost 70 ms and 31 knights so only left him with 5ms and 116 knights to fight camp 10 which isnt enough
Only thing i can think of is skills how are you cloaks skilled?
really i tried and after the cloaked killed camp 2 instead of going to camp 5 it tried to kill camp 3
Just retested and your right does by pass the camp which is really handy and i sent them all after each other and hey went through each camp till camp 10 when the last gen got there he had lost 70 ms and 31 knights so only left him with 5ms and 116 knights to fight camp 10 which isnt enough
Only thing i can think of is skills how are you cloaks skilled?
here it is (http://prntscr.com/svtgin). hope it helps
Is it worth getting more YWC's in at less exp per instead of doing less but using more Mary attacks? I get 4 YWC's in using a good chunk of Mary attacks and where not Mary its Boris, exp per is pretty decent. Getting in 5 would mean speeding up by using other generals and such which would lower the exp per run. Seems like chasing the dragon to me.
Is it worth getting more YWC's in at less exp per instead of doing less but using more Mary attacks? I get 4 YWC's in using a good chunk of Mary attacks and where not Mary its Boris, exp per is pretty decent. Getting in 5 would mean speeding up by using other generals and such which would lower the exp per run. Seems like chasing the dragon to me.
your right thats why i do mine with marys usually will be better with the 3 new female boris will keep xp high plus be a little faster
i've played around with my new Ghost Generals (http://prntscr.com/vmd7jz)
managed to do a YWC in 26min from landing with just plat shoes on (https://prnt.sc/vmcum4)
(770S 20MS 350K)
Admiral_Jov
05.01.21, 00:01
Its been 1 and half a year since I quitted the game, and its good to see many replies on my thread. Now my next question would be if anyone only uses Mary/TB/Boris/SYL (XP Gens) with this kind of technique and how many loses you got. Thank you and much love
Admiral_Jov
Its been 1 and half a year since I quitted the game, and its good to see many replies on my thread. Now my next question would be if anyone only uses Mary/TB/Boris/SYL (XP Gens) with this kind of technique and how many loses you got. Thank you and much love
Admiral_Jov
do the map 1 gen does 1 attack so i just reload and resend each time i start ...using 7 marys and 7 boris/syl, 1 tremble, 1 ygg (last camp 155r) 1 steadfest .. total loses 428 MS 112 Knights 155recruits ..at moment yielding 2.2 mill xp
Admiral_Jov
05.01.21, 13:14
thank you mr. hades ;D
with event 3x, scout post buff? i got only 2mil per ywc, 2syl/5maries/vargus/2steadfast/3yggs
350ish MS, 60ish K, 250militia 125 soldiers(for ygg suicides)
manage only 5x tho.
i use less than 30 mins with this guide i made from other guides ibb.co/jzJXnQW
"17 is my fastest but 18/19 is average=plat shoes no buffs 7 per obs if lucky with no mishaps or freezes but 6 quite easily...
same for 2nd Thief,ToW 28min,3rd 37min and BP 57min...Buff kills used only on ToW like many others I guess
https://prnt.sc/qzl89d"
try making guide with all attacks from landing zone - 10 steps from each other. You will save 10+ minutes
cheethamhill
11.02.21, 04:08
Brown guy
So you copy and pasted my post and added...If I moved 10 steps closer I could save 10mins?
doubtful......
and thats last years post,the times have changed a bit..YWC is 15,2nd thief 14..ToW..23...3rd...32....so yeah don't understand the quote and reply.
Brown guy
So you copy and pasted my post and added...If I moved 10 steps closer I could save 10mins?
doubtful......
and thats last years post,the times have changed a bit..YWC is 15,2nd thief 14..ToW..23...3rd...32....so yeah don't understand the quote and reply.
yes, i actualy wanted to reply to other person in previous comment , sry cheethamhill .
Anyway i made video about sending all attacks from landing zone for YWC - check it out :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpTn3j8M-wI&t
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