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BB_Malkun
30.01.20, 07:27
Please feel free to leave your thoughts and comments on the [Dev Blog] Valentine's Event 2020 below.

The original post can be found here (https://forum.thesettlersonline.com/threads/37533-Dev-Blog-Valentine-s-Event-2020?p=357045#post357045).

Happy commenting!
BB_Malkun

GollrDK
30.01.20, 15:36
we decreased the amount of Flowers they bring home from treasure searches, especially for longer searches!

Are you S...…. me,
You increase production time on flower fields,
increase prices in event shop.
And then you lower the one thing that will bring in a decent income.

hades8840
30.01.20, 15:59
Wow what can you say those rose tinted glasses the guy who wrote that must been in politics before joining Blue Byte ..i mean you have to learn to talk like a untruthful person (within pegi7) somewhere ...you have added so much more to the event this year which is great but at the same time limited how we can get flowers that leaves gems .which doesnt involve any form of working together or trading which would be great but with everyone else suffering the same limited supply wont help many players...you could of left explorers bring back the same amount as last year but you have halved the returns or you could of left the farms at 20 minutes but no you nerfed both.
your argument is cause so many players last year couldnt fill their farms ..we all know thats a fib.. i mean same issue would happen at halloween yet we have 9 fields to deal with then , so the reasoning falls on its face

I love events they take the boredom from the game i dont even mind a challenge when i know hard work will prevail but reaching for my mastercard isnt working hard nor is it working together so if that was your aim its backfired

JohnRo79
30.01.20, 16:25
at least the rules of the game are quite well explained. if you like the, join in, if not, oh well.....

rathbone93
30.01.20, 17:50
the dev blog indicates the flower buffs need to be active to get the extra rewards. I'm trying to recall from last year, but remember that the love-crazed buffs were part of the action. Those, afaik don't work with the friend buff active? So does that mean we have to avoid using the friend buff for this event?

Thejollyone
30.01.20, 17:50
making it harder to get event resources so we have to spend gems.

No thanks, no more spending on this game until BB put it in writing EXACTLY what is happening to it after flash dies...

mrfatalerror
30.01.20, 17:56
Pay-to-win event. Next.

Cubby21
30.01.20, 19:38
are you sure, i do not see this as an improvement in the event, to decrease the amount of flowers that explorers gather is not good especially for players who can not be online 24/7. I think i will be not doing much of this event and will certainly not be buying gems or using them on it, unhappy Valentines

hades8840
30.01.20, 20:13
the dev blog indicates the flower buffs need to be active to get the extra rewards. I'm trying to recall from last year, but remember that the love-crazed buffs were part of the action. Those, afaik don't work with the friend buff active? So does that mean we have to avoid using the friend buff for this event?

love crazed buffs have nothing to do with extra rewards you need all 3 farms buffed with a valentine card before the end of an adventure to get the bonus 200%

MutantKid
30.01.20, 22:21
Can't wait for the next idiot to say they got everything in the 1st week! Lower production times on the fields, half explorer returns & even less for the longer ones, oh & the increased prices for items that were in last years event! What's not to like?

Fanfas
30.01.20, 22:37
And the first release on test was even worse... if people did not start to complain there it was even worse. We're getting at a point it seems they are trying to get long time players away. and i say long time because those are probably the only ones sticking around because of all the time invested on the game. It's becoming too much.

There must be a balance. You need to make money so at least provide something worth that money. Making people pay for exactly the same thing over and over... not cool. Reward the time people spend on the game. Because that's what is keeping the game alive.

rathbone93
31.01.20, 03:53
love crazed buffs have nothing to do with extra rewards you need all 3 farms buffed with a valentine card before the end of an adventure to get the bonus 200%

I see, so it's the numbered cards then that need to be active for this particular task? We had to do stuff with love crazed too iirc.

Dorotheus
31.01.20, 09:00
I see, so it's the numbered cards then that need to be active for this particular task? We had to do stuff with love crazed too iirc.

Unless they have changed the quests since last year, then Love crazed are not required to complete any quests. It would pay players look to see if Love crazed or if PFB would better suit their playstyle, as use of both cancel each other out.

Kotugo
31.01.20, 10:07
Making resources more scarce isn't really the right way to make an event harder, it just wastes more player time or rewards them less for spending the same amount of time, it's got nothing to do with difficulty.

It's like telling a worker doing an 8 hour shift that they are being rewarded by giving them half the pay and telling them they can do a 16 hour shift if they want to get the same pay as before.

If the developers really wanted to make the event harder then they would introduce a way of doing adventures where you get improved rewards for doing the adventure in a unique way, effectively preventing people from following guides and forcing them to come up with their own personal guide.

A bit like the tribute achievements for adventures where you have to do a run in x time or only using specific troops.

They could reuse the pathfinder mechanic so everyone has personal goals each day to earn more rewards. At least this way it would push people to do adventures they do not usually do instead of spamming the most efficient adventures hundreds of times (and burning out).

rosee
31.01.20, 11:20
BB didn't learn a thing all these years. Instead of making cheap prices for gems, they do the opposite. And they have such good examples how things should be done, netflix for example. Getting a lot of money from few people like BB wants is a lot worse than getting few $ from a huge amount of people. They make every new event even harder(now is impossible to get everything even if you play all day long) and the rewards are more and more expensive. This generates frustration, even anger. Unhappy people will not spend money.

unicornlinzy1
31.01.20, 12:20
making it harder to get event resources so we have to spend gems.

No thanks, no more spending on this game until BB put it in writing EXACTLY what is happening to it after flash dies...

+1

IvanKu
31.01.20, 12:36
The Event became too difficult. It is very sad tendency because events are making the game has sense for me. I was buying gems for buying explorers to earn event stuff. This time you have decreased the value of my explorers. Is it fair?

You wrote that "Event's focus is on interactions with other players". So I should earn on flower farms more, right? But why you also increased their production time and decreased adventure's loot amount?

Let's calculate: 41 flowers per day. It is 1722 flowers for 3 farms for 14 days. If you add v-cards and prestigious friend buff you will get only about 12000 flowers for the event, right? Another calculation will show that you should have about 6 adventures per day in order to rewill your farms (including premium time and Valentine buff) . But I can't play 24 hours per day.

I would re-phrase and say that the Event's focus is to get more adn more donations before flash dies and It becoming not interesting for me as a player.

sparkz
31.01.20, 12:38
If the developers really wanted to make the event harder then they would introduce a way of doing adventures where you get improved rewards for doing the adventure in a unique way, effectively preventing people from following guides and forcing them to come up with their own personal guide.

Which is impossible considering all of the content is static, so for whatever task they throw at you the solution you come up with can then be replicated by a thousand other players that get the same task.

See MCC for example, I believe it was already optimized by the time it hit live servers.


and the rewards are more and more expensive.

and considering the nature of the rewards they also become less and less valuable as the time goes, ie any building that offers production buffs no matter how high is useless if you have been running production surplus for years now. Same goes for explorers, each new one you get is less and less valuable.

LeaderOfCastle
31.01.20, 13:55
Essentially merchant unbalanced.
Flower gem ratio, price of some items... For example Scouting Post 51% more expensive buy via flower then directly buy with gem...

Also May event item can be two type. Instead of Flower; Rose and Daisy. Rose for rare items, Daisy for uncommon items.
In current merchant design we never buy uncommon items from it. Choosing Rare ones (always).
Love Tree, Chocolatier, Proof of Love, ... are rare; Improved Silo, Farm, Love Crazed, Large River House, Normal Star Chart Recipe, ... are uncommon.

Set farm production time to 20 min at least.

Capiroto
31.01.20, 14:48
"See we totally didn't nerf the explorers and the farm time because we want more money, it's because we love you, we even put a conditional finicky 200% resource bonus so you can get more refils that you mathematically couldn't use in the first place"

Nice one bb, i'm totally convinced.

Xadro
31.01.20, 19:35
So everything is nerfed and nothing is boosted, not even event length. Well it sure seems like they want to milk the whales.

Tonysium
01.02.20, 10:22
Let's calculate: 41 flowers per day. It is 1722 flowers for 3 farms for 14 days. If you add v-cards and prestigious friend buff you will get only about 12000 flowers for the event, right?.

Think you forgot about the removal phase there, hence 50% more flowers.

IvanKu
01.02.20, 12:42
Think you forgot about the removal phase there, hence 50% more flowers.

But you can't get additional refills from adventure's loot during removal phase

Mannerheim
01.02.20, 13:59
But you can't get additional refills from adventure's loot during removal phase

That does not really matter since you can easily fill them to the needed amount during first two weeks.

hades8840
01.02.20, 15:18
So everything is nerfed and nothing is boosted, not even event length. Well it sure seems like they want to milk the whales.

event runs for 4 days longer then last years and your getting 200% loot boost ...doesnt help cause of the nerf on the explorers but better then it could of been

WildWizard
01.02.20, 21:07
Is this the first dev diary that doesn't even show what the event has to offer but is just explaining they did it for "reasons"

ginny31
02.02.20, 00:23
Is this the first dev diary that doesn't even show what the event has to offer but is just explaining they did it for "reasons"

Not a dev diary just a blog post to explain why they feel they did us such a good favour by making the event harder unless you dig deep and use up your gems

qawpaw
02.02.20, 07:33
i stopped using gems until we get an answer ,if the game continues after 31/12-2020 and how it continues

Lord-Nazgul
02.02.20, 10:07
+1. this is it!RIP settlers. Nerf more this event we need more favor from u BB.Gl with your game and greed.

Xadro
02.02.20, 11:24
event runs for 4 days longer then last years and your getting 200% loot boost ...doesnt help cause of the nerf on the explorers but better then it could of been

Whats the point of getting more refillers if the flower farms stay the same, or are slower as some are claiming.

Also with the information we have now it seems prices are more expensive of the items that were in the shop last year

hades8840
02.02.20, 13:53
Whats the point of getting more refillers if the flower farms stay the same, or are slower as some are claiming.

Also with the information we have now it seems prices are more expensive of the items that were in the shop last year

there still gonna run out at least you can refill them easier and yes prices have risen they have a habit of doing that ..and i agree they should of left the farms well alone but isnt alot we can do about it if more ppl complained on the test server when stuff is there you would have a better chance of having it changed but alas thats too late now

JohnRo79
02.02.20, 16:37
Whats the point of getting more refillers if the flower farms stay the same, or are slower as some are claiming.

Also with the information we have now it seems prices are more expensive of the items that were in the shop last year

they could be used in trade

Bigmac_Dave
04.02.20, 08:17
Co-op.... Teamwork......
Sorry. Not for me.
Settlers was never a team game. It always was a solo player game.
If I wanted co-op I would play WoW or the like.
I have been playing PC games since the days of DOS and Win 3.1 and feel the onus nowadays is put more on looks than actual gameplay.

Lord-Nazgul
04.02.20, 09:20
there still gonna run out at least you can refill them easier and yes prices have risen they have a habit of doing that ..and i agree they should of left the farms well alone but isnt alot we can do about it if more ppl complained on the test server when stuff is there you would have a better chance of having it changed but alas thats too late now

its to late for this game now.

sparkz
04.02.20, 10:11
Co-op.... Teamwork......

The irony is, coops, regardless of their name, are not about teamwork, theyre 'multiple singler player' adventures.

iridium21
04.02.20, 12:14
making it harder to get event resources so we have to spend gems.

No thanks, no more spending on this game until BB put it in writing EXACTLY what is happening to it after flash dies...

Me too. I think that they're going to try to milk us dry and then just drop the game when the time comes.

iridium21
04.02.20, 12:19
Pay-to-win event. Next.

Agreed! And I DON'T want to have to do stinking co-op missions. Why can't they have left those of us (and there are LOTS) alone to get on with it ourselves?

iridium21
04.02.20, 12:26
i stopped using gems until we get an answer ,if the game continues after 31/12-2020 and how it continues

+1

iridium21
04.02.20, 12:51
Co-op.... Teamwork......
Sorry. Not for me.
Settlers was never a team game. It always was a solo player game.
If I wanted co-op I would play WoW or the like.
I have been playing PC games since the days of DOS and Win 3.1 and feel the onus nowadays is put more on looks than actual gameplay.

+1 I absolutely agree with this post!

The Settlers was never about cooperation - which is why many chose to play it. What's your stupid obsession in trying to force a multi-player teamwork game upon us?

You will NOT be getting any more money from me and I suggest others do the same.

Due to Flash's impending demise, you may well be paying for a game that's going to dissapear not only itself but with all the money you've spent on gems.

Tarawoef
04.02.20, 15:17
"focus is on interactions with other players. " Next event please!

Aluna
04.02.20, 16:14
making it harder to get event resources so we have to spend gems.

No thanks, no more spending on this game until BB put it in writing EXACTLY what is happening to it after flash dies...

I totally agree, BB has realised their money will dry up when the game dies so is trying to make as much as possible and giving virtually nothing in return

Aluna
04.02.20, 16:17
And I couldn't believe, after the chaos of last year, they could do the event even worse

Norton_C
04.02.20, 17:55
With all that negative feedback I wonder if there is anyone who actually likes the event as it is. Me, being a casual player, too much demand for cooperation is never welcomed. Want to play at my pace at my time. Not giving up RL for a game. So I re-evaluated the items offered in the event and came to conclusion that there is not a single "must have" item included for me. Now just hesitating if I will play at least a bit, or ignore the whole thing completely.

Cheetah2_777
05.02.20, 12:41
Island is full for years, no building space, no need to get more buildings. No need to play.

Camalus
06.02.20, 22:31
Your island is full because of all the pretty trees Cheetz :))
Nothing here to tempt me to play only the chat.

topgearfan
24.02.20, 10:24
BB didn't learn a thing all these years. Instead of making cheap prices for gems, they do the opposite. And they have such good examples how things should be done, netflix for example. Getting a lot of money from few people like BB wants is a lot worse than getting few $ from a huge amount of people.

There are examples of the opposite working. In Japan anime/manga companies selling merch to otakus for example. Basically milking the addicted people.

Xadro
24.02.20, 10:32
There are examples of the opposite working. In Japan anime/manga companies selling merch to otakus for example. Basically milking the addicted people.

Yep, they rather have one big whale than dozens little fish.