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BB_Trafffer
01.09.20, 14:51
Please feel free to leave your thoughts and comments on The future of TSO below.
The original post can be found here (https://forum.thesettlersonline.com/threads/37849).
As some players suggested, I will do a little summary of the current most popular ideas:
- Linux Support
- Mac Support
- Mobile Device Support (Android, iOS, chromeOS)
- Bulk Sending - Geologists and Explorers
- Entire production chains easier to start-stop/buff.
- More Islands/Space
Happy commenting!
BB_Trafffer
Please make sure future technologies work on Linux as well as Windows.
Maybe load our current islands onto test and let us test it there before going live?
Thank you for the news!
I will be much less discouraged from buying gems once I can see how the game will be around next year too.
I would highly suggest whatever platform you use will also allow it to be played on mobile devices (iOS, chromeOS, etc)
Wuselwirbel
01.09.20, 15:26
Don't forget us Mac users, please. :-)
And DreMat: Mobile would be a great addition, indeed.
Hi,
I also vote for linux support
and my addition to features would be:
1) possibility of favorites section in the star menu - most common items/generals/maps/buffs in one star section
2) maybe corner of build square might become "sticky" so for example placing wells would be just one click, no need to return to build menu and select well again
Thanks, keep up good work
RinceWinde
01.09.20, 15:34
If you can, please make bulk send geo's and explorers a thing.
you didnt actually tell us anything for all me know and it sounds like it this new tech is a new version of the bugged standalone ...if you was aiming to use some pre -existing tech like html5 etc then you could say that and it would re-assure players as you must have something in mind u have had 5 years to deal with it ...
Mannerheim
01.09.20, 15:45
Why isn't a such key thing mentioned in the post as the relevant background tech used since it should be a locked decision by now? Is it cross-platform HTML5 after all even tho years of declining it or is the solution still Flash based like embedding everything in a single executable?
One of the reasons to not mention it could be the scare fro backslash from the community.
noxidjkram
01.09.20, 15:47
Would it be possible to dual-run, and play game either using Flash or the new UI (HTML5 or whatever it will be). This would allow a smooth transition, with downtime for new UI if needed that doesn't affect players access to the game.
The underlying database and account access mechanisms should be able to stay the same, with only the UI technology that requiring update?
AmySafeunderdark
01.09.20, 16:06
Conversion into a HTML5 version would solve a lot of compatibility issues.
With HTML5 it would work on all platforms and mobile devices.
It would be a shame to lose the good community we have here.. í ½í²–
And I haven't reached level 57 yet..
(I'm enjoying the trip so that will still take a while, but I would miss it for the world.. )
just my two cents..
AndyGadget
01.09.20, 16:08
18 weeks to go then........
Browser update expected to remove all flash support, uninstall any downloaded flash plugins, and remove all download links from their sites so that it is no longer possible to download a sanctioned flash plugin from the major vendors.
As stated by the previous posts, it would be nice to know what technology is going to be used to keep the game alive, and when we may see a "new.tsotesting.com" with some proof that the plan is already well underway.
Even saying that something is in limited beta test now would give a bit of confidence back.
Is it cross-platform HTML5 after all even tho years of declining it
It isnt even about the years of declining, its about last posts saying theyre not even planning to use HTML5 going as far as 4 months ago.
If now suddenly they're working hard on a solution, its kind of easy to say which technology this solution is NOT, considering the options that apparently werent even on a roadmap 4 months ago.
Linux and Android would be great.Anyway, I`m glad you`re working on it!
Mannerheim
01.09.20, 16:29
It isnt even about the years of declining, its about last posts saying theyre not even planning to use HTML5 going as far as 4 months ago.
If now suddenly they're working hard on a solution, its kind of easy to say which technology this solution is NOT, considering the options that apparently werent even on a roadmap 4 months ago.
It's possible that they have outsourced the early transition phase or found a solution that does the trick. Adobe announced the "kill switch" kind of end for the plugin a month or to ago and at the same time companies begun their last waves of marketing. The trend was to convert a flash build to webassemblies running a emulator or virtualization. CheerpX is one of the names I remember.
Hover at this point I doubt that it would be realistic investment them to do any of these unless all the mass bundle sales have paid out.
just pleeeease let it support HTML5 to avoid any shutdown the end of this year
whats the point of feedback when BB has never ever taken notice?
If you can, please make bulk send geo's and explorers a thing.
I second this. In fact, in the new incarnation of this game, I would suggest to take every effort to reduce the number of clicks.
To extend this -
- Bulk sending Geo and explorer
- Bulk loading generals with troops (something like, I will select which are the gens I need then a panel will come with total limit of the gens and let me pack troops in single window.
- rejuvinate feature: same as above, if I select a exhausted field / well, it will ask me if I want to rejuvinate all and based on my resources it would rejuvinate in sequential way of oldest first.
- mines: if there are multiple mines available then clicking on one, should have option to initiate all construction.
add to the point, its come to the point where if you raise a ticket to support, they cant even be bothered to reply..
WizardofPos
01.09.20, 16:53
Exactly my thoughts hades8840
At this point they should have locked on the new tech for the game and if they did they would let us know what's coming and what the new tech is.
Instead we see only that they "currently working hard". If the work is going hard so what's the new tech is being used. At this point they should have more than idea what it's gonna be
How our feedback will help here not sure. We want TSO to continue no doubt about it but its up to them to make it happen, not our feedback. I think there is still no solid plans or ideas on what or how to make it happen
Not sure all these posts are actually going to help them get this transition done.
I wouldn't want anything new added just the game in a working platform that is easy to log into and plays without lag/crashing (I have resisted the urge to list all the issues I have when playing).
Appreciate the heads up that you are working on this but without information that satisfies the more technically minded in our community I am with the doubters on the Titanic.
We are all still here (resistance is futile) and we all still want to play maybe some of the players have the real skills needed to help if you were able to explain the issues. A problem shared is a problem solved.
As long as any solution does not involve everyone starting from lvl 1 again!!!
when are you going to dump flash
Don't forget us Mac users, please. :-)
And DreMat: Mobile would be a great addition, indeed.
second that
We are all still here (resistance is futile) and we all still want to play maybe some of the players have the real skills needed to help if you were able to explain the issues. A problem shared is a problem solved.
Its highly unlikely any sane person with proper skillset would consider contributing to a project thats not open (because BB or whatever parent company holds all the rights to the game) while at the same being fully commercial, without any pay.
whats the point of feedback when BB has never ever taken notice?
!!!!We have seen the way you are enthusiastically discussing the topic, coming up with suggestions and even working on your own solutions to protect everyone’s islands.!!!!
!!!maby you shoult read what they wrote.
or did you not take notice
What matters is that it is playable on most platforms including mobiles, that it is stable, and that it is interesting.
With interesting, can be said and meant a lot, so lets take that in another discussion.
Focus should be on making it work on most platforms in a stable version.
One second to midnight and BB finally wake up!
This should have started years ago, preferably in 2010 so we'd have been spared the vagaries of Flash.
1) It has to be stable and not a resource hog bringing down our computers. So NOT Flash in any form, be that embedded, in a wrapper or any other format.
2) Cross-platform support, we should be able to play on Linux and Mac at least, preferably Android and others like BSD.
3) Proper retargettable graphics so the chat box doesn't cover the entire screen on smaller displays.
4) Performance has dropped markedly since moving/amalgamating servers, really needs looking at. In earlier days you could run several worlds simultaneously in separate browser tabs, now even a single world is a struggle.
Liking some of the ideas like bulk sending of explorers, but probably something for the future, what we need now is Settlers Online playing stably and securely for the forseeable future.
I was really excited to read this announcement, but unfortunately it doesn't say anything new.
Not reassuring, sadly. A plan "in the upcoming months" already puts us perilously close to 2021. And that's just the plan, not actually making the transition.
I'm especially disappointed that BB asked for feedback generally on development of the game. That pretty much guarantees this thread is going to devolve into people's requests for their pet features, instead of discussing the continuity of the game.
can every1 come down about that?
if there is Linux/OS support, there will be OS/Linux support (do u remember what is Darwin distro?)
im more warried on the current war between the giants - Apple vs EPIC vs Google vs FB (and so on)
anyway, a good news and TY!
rathbone93
02.09.20, 03:28
From my standpoint, I don't particularly care about new features, although there's plenty of ideas that have been suggested for years, maybe after the platform change those could be looked at. But for the game to be viable at all:
1) it needs to support at a minimum mac, ios, android and windows, maybe linux too—but if it supports the first four, that'd mean that it's probably based on widespread tech that's cross-platform anyways and would readily support linux.
2) as you build it, the whole event system (by which I mean the queueing of things that get bundled into data transactions each second) and all those sources of lag/latency need to be more carefully engineered. The prestigious friend buff messes up the timing of everything and it's apparently because of very sloppy memory handling (partly the fault of flash); tighten this up so the core features work properly and the game can be played more than 15 minutes (with pfb engaged, 1 hour without) without having to relaunch the browser and there'll be some really happy settlers around here.
Thanks to the devs and mods for starting a thread about this, and hoping settlers can be brought into the next decade.
still uncertain on where it's going towards, but at least there is a little extra hope around the corner.
for everyone's peace of mind, move towards VR and HDR Atmos technology. at least you'll be closer to "up to date".
Tyvm
If you can, please make bulk send geo's and explorers a thing.
YES, please!!!
Sending 30+ explorers one by one (especially during the event) is a pain in the neck.
Would be great if the next update would contain the desired technology stack :) Things are still very unclear now!
BB_Trafffer
02.09.20, 12:22
you didnt actually tell us anything for all me know and it sounds like it this new tech is a new version of the bugged standalone ...if you was aiming to use some pre -existing tech like html5 etc then you could say that and it would re-assure players as you must have something in mind u have had 5 years to deal with it ...
The "improved technology" is not a flash or flash update.
add to the point, its come to the point where if you raise a ticket to support, they cant even be bothered to reply..
Could you please send me a PM with an unanswered ticket id? I'll check it.
Why isn't a such key thing mentioned in the post as the relevant background tech used since it should be a locked decision by now? Is it cross-platform HTML5 after all even tho years of declining it or is the solution still Flash based like embedding everything in a single executable?
One of the reasons to not mention it could be the scare fro backslash from the community.
I understand that most of you would like to know all the details by now, and there is nothing wrong with that. We will publish more and more information as it is ready. It's really worth waiting ;)
lordloocan
02.09.20, 13:11
Seems all that they have done is say 'we are working on it' again but with a nice coloured banner etc.
Paul_the_Pest
02.09.20, 14:32
I second this. In fact, in the new incarnation of this game, I would suggest to take every effort to reduce the number of clicks.
To extend this -
- Bulk sending Geo and explorer
- Bulk loading generals with troops (something like, I will select which are the gens I need then a panel will come with total limit of the gens and let me pack troops in single window.
- rejuvinate feature: same as above, if I select a exhausted field / well, it will ask me if I want to rejuvinate all and based on my resources it would rejuvinate in sequential way of oldest first.
- mines: if there are multiple mines available then clicking on one, should have option to initiate all construction.
Definately need solutions like these.
What about:
Multiple window support - Be able to be on the adventure island and your own at the same time and view them on in different windows or on different screens.
Easier to see whisper notifications, perhaps an the user's avatar pops up in the corner of the screen.
Chat history saved between sessions
LeaderOfCastle
02.09.20, 20:36
Explorer and Geologist Loop (Autosend/Repeat last search (continiously with a tick near portrait))
Army Sending Setups:
(Select Generals)
(Select Army Upto total general capacity)
(Fastest generals deploys first with army of its capacity (with percent types))
Example:
3x Cloaked + 1x Boris
Capacity = 3x215(or with skill more) + 1x195
Selected Army = 600 Mounted Swordsman + 100 Knight = 700
First 3x Cloaked deployed with 645/700 * 600MS + 645/700 * 100K = 553MS + 92K
Then Boris with remaining troop
Science System: Expand with new skills & Type Specific skill Colums & Increase extra book beyond limit possibility (may a few book)
Island Shaping:
Sea/Land/Mountain (Square cells)
If dig(shovel) land, transform to sea and giving dirt
If mine(pickaxe) mountain, transform to land and giving rock
Sea + dirt + mayAnotherEquipmentBuff = Land so we can move land cells...
possible mud or other types... immovable, not buildable etc...
Move trees, deposits...
Possible total re-init game
All constructed buildings(normals too with upgrades) goes into starmenu (so no loss for old players)
Reshape land, skills everything reset books goes into starmenu
Rebalance/add productions/buffs/...
Don't fear to add or change.
Switch to webgl can be nice option.
Please don't forget programming more important than graphics. We don't want lags/bugs/...
Give developers enough time.
I'm sure BB made other way and have good news for us in future. Just play with our souls and mine with this thread
Hey BB, I'm puzzled about the "insight" you gave us and the feedback you want from us. Have read the announcement about 5 times already and can't get my head around it. The only new info I read in it is that you've decided to forsake the possibility to somehow keep flash going and decided to transit to more modern technology with better chance of survival. Well done for leaving the dead end approach. Apart from that shift it's the same old same old - undisclosed unspecified plans. And boy you've been planning for a long long time.
What kind of feedback can a non IT person give you? How do you even count on our feedback? Man I'm confused. Even if I was an IT person i still could not say much more then the above to the issue. :)
So what do you want to hear? Yes, the game is good. Yes, I want it to continue for a long time of happy settling. Yes I want to continue playing seamlessly without a down time. Yes I hope you can figure out how to do it cause I can't. :) And yes I hope you increase the clarity of your communication so we can actually engage in meaningful feedback.
Staying tuned .................. just send a message. :)
Hey BB, I'm puzzled about the "insight" you gave us and the feedback you want from us. Have read the announcement about 5 times already and can't get my head around it. The only new info I read in it is that you've decided to forsake the possibility to somehow keep flash going and decided to transit to more modern technology with better chance of survival. Well done for leaving the dead end approach. Apart from that shift it's the same old same old - undisclosed unspecified plans. And boy you've been planning for a long long time.
What kind of feedback can a non IT person give you? How do you even count on our feedback? Man I'm confused. Even if I was an IT person i still could not say much more then the above to the issue. :)
So what do you want to hear? Yes, the game is good. Yes, I want it to continue for a long time of happy settling. Yes I want to continue playing seamlessly without a down time. Yes I hope you can figure out how to do it cause I can't. :) And yes I hope you increase the clarity of your communication so we can actually engage in meaningful feedback.
Staying tuned .................. just send a message. :)
+1
TheGreyPilgrim
03.09.20, 23:25
HTML5. It has all the advantages. You can even make a mobile port with relative ease.
as long as i dont lose the special buildings gens explorers geos that i have earned / bought / achieved along the way , im happy to see this continue in some other base format , i just dont want to start on a new settlers at base0 as a continuation of where we are now , i mean if we were told " ok this is the end of TSO, but we will launch a new settler game where you can start again" i would be sad about losing all that i had made here but would try the new one as i really do enjoy settlers.
and i have said for years a select all on the geos or explorers would be wonderful - 55 or more explorers x 5 click per search is a lot , instead of select 1 explorer and then all of its type to go on same search being 5 - 10 all go at once saving a LOT of clicks and time.
first complains they did not have solution,
now you all complain about nothing,
you have not seen their solution yet.
you should all be ashamed
kindergarten once again as always
How about aversion for the iPad?
first complains they did not have solution,
Oh but they did have a solution, one that created more problems than it solved and wasnt even fully compatible with the new login system they already put to live.
They also repeatadly said they're not considering switching to different technologies, which turns out to not be true as of now.
you have not seen their solution yet.
Anyone with little IT experience and half a brain will tell you you dont rewrite existing application to a new technology within a span of 4 months, unless the application is something as simple as a calculator.
Theres's very little credibility here regarding the possibility of actually puling it off, unless they have been working on it for at least a year, in which case what they said previously simply wasnt true.
Lets see how you manage to rationalize that.
Cheetah2_777
04.09.20, 11:17
Do something with the suggestions we provided over the years.
For example:
Make entire production chains easier to start stop/buff.
I hate clicking 300 times to start / stop 60 buildings.
Send out all geo's in 1 click is another thing.
More building space, extra islands for example.
What good is it to get an event where you get (for example) an other settlers HQ whilst I have 4 already in starmenu and no place to build those?
Or another building that throws economy of island off balance again?
There have been loads of suggestions on the forum, most have been ignored.
Since hardly any of those suggestions have been implemented the game is loosing players.
Oh, and another thing. Will we keep our islands in current state / level / resources?
Or do we have to start from 0?
If start from 0 then the current gem happy hour is dubious.
Oh, and another thing. Will we keep our islands in current state / level / resources?
Or do we have to start from 0?
If start from 0 then the current gem happy hour is dubious.
already been asked and answered on german servers everything would be as it is now everything would be transfered
you need to sort the flash player problem i spend a lot of time reinstalling flash..... or mabe even a new platform to play from
you need to sort the flash player problem i spend a lot of time reinstalling flash..... or mabe even a new platform to play from
assuming you jumped straight on the thread and didnt bother reading it
i think any game down time should include buffs we normally get extended premmy/adventure time, but sometimes down time happens and we dont get chance to sort island out add new buffs or pause buildings to stop them dying.
auto fill gens after clicking 2k recruits and what other troups needed.
send all explorers/ geos.
more island space
once a year unlimited free building moves.
more island space.
collectables on ali adventures.
moveable mayor house.
co-op addys than can be done solo but loot stacks per player/amount each kill
be able to sell back gens/geo/explorers.
I am currently looking at a suitable response to the updated information from BB. Said response will be made available at a later date.
lordloocan
06.09.20, 12:44
Why don't we get the same level of feedback as the German servers? Worth a read if can read german or turn on auto translate:
https://forum.diesiedleronline.de/threads/141397
limalhadeferro
07.09.20, 13:24
yes, please dont forget us Mac users, since we were left out from the slim browser already…
and a thought, probably someone has already presented it, but why not have just one window for troops????
just a big window with regular and elite troops, where you just select the ones you need…
that way you dont have to wait for the elite window to load or vice-versa, plus, in some adv, you use both elite and regular troops.
i think this would make attacking way better and a smoother experience.
Why don't we get the same level of feedback as the German servers? Worth a read if can read german or turn on auto translate:
https://forum.diesiedleronline.de/threads/141397
I dont think we are important enough for them,- this is not a new thing- we dont get the same level of info either,- often we have to get the info from people also playing on german servers. Maybe they simply dont speak english - that might explain all the translation errors in the game.
Why don't we get the same level of feedback as the German servers? Worth a read if can read german or turn on auto translate:
https://forum.diesiedleronline.de/threads/141397
basically says the same waffle.
I am currently looking at a suitable response to the updated information from BB. Said response will be made available at a later date.
LOL I never quote responses but... this is gold.
I am currently looking at a suitable response to the updated information from BB. Said response will be made available at a later date.
+1
Any rational reason why they are so mysterious?
Any rational reason why they are so mysterious?
their known for it little take a look at anno and how they ruined a good game and a community with their silence or hang on teasers.
the day i believe ubisoft and bluebyte will be the day chesterfield will win the fa cup
BB_Trafffer
14.09.20, 12:18
Following some suggestions, I made an update in 1st post.
Please keep posting your ideas & suggestions for the new features/improvements.
MeneerHepatica
14.09.20, 14:20
Since the servers get more quite is it not an idea to with the change to the new platform to merge some servers. The 3 UK servers could become 1 big server which gives more life again on trade/chats en more options to get players for guilds again.
Since the servers get more quite is it not an idea to with the change to the new platform to merge some servers. The 3 UK servers could become 1 big server which gives more life again on trade/chats en more options to get players for guilds again.
Slight problem with the people who have accounts on all 3 servers. Say you bought gems for all three accounts to get stuff and now you get to keep one? Be annoying.
I would like to see a generla building browser like what existed already in Settlers 2. Be able to find stuff that's not production.
BB_Trafffer,
Please add to your list: moving our storages on our island.
There has been so many times asked for this, so it should be a must have for new development.
a bigger island with all these new buildings so we have more room on main island
Queen_Kiya
16.09.20, 17:06
I will be very happy to see an updated chatbox with bigger font or the ability to adjust the size of the font.
I will be very happy to see an updated chatbox with bigger font or the ability to adjust the size of the font.
have you tried CTRL+mouse wheel?
Any news on what the "new technology" is that will enable the game post flash?
I'm sure we are all very interested to see a road map for the transition given that there is now less than 4 months to go and I'm sure BB will be running a test programme for the new technology - it does seem ambitious to cram this into 3+ months!
More detail please - that is what the player base really needs
Would be nice if the mail context option to block players mails was extended to include all sorts of mail from a player such as freind requests instead of just normal mails.
I can manage without loads of new features, let's concentrate on getting the game working. Oh, and remove the Rankings button.
The ability to start your island over/ reset everything but stay on the same server with the same guild if you wish and just start the island afresh. Handy for when you make those beginner mistakes and realise you should have done some steps differently .. I saw this mentioned a long while back and never saw much if any response to it at the time. Maybe if you are doing a functional upgrade maybe add in a reset option .. with a provisio of no sales in the trading house and no items being crafted in the provision houses, all processes stopped ( this could be automated ) .. to limit the problems with removing data regarding working buildings.
The ability to start your island over/ reset everything but stay on the same server with the same guild if you wish and just start the island afresh. Handy for when you make those beginner mistakes and realise you should have done some steps differently .. I saw this mentioned a long while back and never saw much if any response to it at the time. Maybe if you are doing a functional upgrade maybe add in a reset option .. with a provisio of no sales in the trading house and no items being crafted in the provision houses, all processes stopped ( this could be automated ) .. to limit the problems with removing data regarding working buildings.
I am curious such as? can't think of anything that you cant reverse
The ability to start your island over/ reset everything but stay on the same server with the same guild if you wish and just start the island afresh. Handy for when you make those beginner mistakes and realise you should have done some steps differently .. I saw this mentioned a long while back and never saw much if any response to it at the time. Maybe if you are doing a functional upgrade maybe add in a reset option .. with a provisio of no sales in the trading house and no items being crafted in the provision houses, all processes stopped ( this could be automated ) .. to limit the problems with removing data regarding working buildings.
You have always had the option to reset your island to the beginning, I've known several players who have done just that.
As for the second point, can you explain in other terms what you mean as how it comes across to me defies all logic.
lordloocan
19.09.20, 11:38
Allow us to sort friends list both by level, as now, and alphabetically. I know my friends names but not their levels so would make finding them far easier.
CTRL + mouse wheel works for me. it does chrome zoom in out
I just hope that once we moved to a new system that i can finally turn my island around, so i can see it from the backside :)
I can manage without loads of new features, let's concentrate on getting the game working. Oh, and remove the Rankings button.
+ 100 ohh yes - that would be great indeed.
I would love for the game to have a support system that helps players with problems. Not a bot that gives one of the same 3 auto replies no matter what you ask. Maybe a quality control like they have in other games to see if any players actually get any problems solved.
A) I would like to be able to trade up my generals, geologists & explorers. eg if I have 2 basic geologists I could trade the 2 of them for say one iron willed geologist, the same with generals and explorers. And this would be for each level of specialists, generals, explorers and geologists. It would improve the level of skill of the specialists a player holds and reduce the number of specialist held in star menu. It may be that a SMALL cost is involved such as 100 granite to trade up 2 geologists, 100 bronze swords for 2 generals and 100 map frags for 2 explorers.
B) I also agree with RinceWinde that having bulk send outs for geologists and explorers would be great, although I can see issues with them being on different time bands due to their skill levels.
C) I'd also like to see a feature from the old CD Rom version of the game where you could click a building/mine etc and view it's status and then click to the next building/mine of the same type and be taken straight to it. It was in that old version so can be done.
I wouldn't mind standalone application. But that would require to remove all browser opening buttons, especially the "rankings".
I think it`s time for option, that allow us to send group of Explorers Find adventure, treasure or expedition.
I am not a programmer but it seems to me the easiest way to prolong the game after most browsers stop supporting Flash is to create a Ubisoft web browser that supports flash. I realise there is the slim browser but that seems to be very bugged and many cannot use it.
If this is done it will give developers time to create a solution to the flash problem.
As regards new features I think a garrison island that can hold barracks, training grounds and all the gens when they return from adventures would be useful
ClarenceDuPont
25.09.20, 14:23
Priority - something that works, good to know it's not going to be flash.
Feature requests:
Ability to "buy" a move building window.
xxxx star coins or other currency that gives you 24 hours to freely move buildings like we could in the amnesty a few years ago.
And as so many others - bulk send specialists.
Send retrenched gens to a separate star menu tab and have the ability to "retrench" other specialists to the same menu
At the moment BB has not really convinced us that the game has a future. Years of silence and the continued muddled communication has made lots of players leave or stop using money on the game. The resent strange signals has not changed that. We are waiting to see what will be,- and many still think that the game ends in December.
I myself don't know what to believe, but no matter what I would wish for a game and a game community with better communication, more and better feedback. Well real I cant wish for more, because that would still amount to 0, I wish for feedback.
Not to feel that BB sets some server higher than others. Often we have got info from players on German server that has not been given here.
have posted a few times in here and i seriously can't believe the lack of honesty from ubisoft/bluevyte ,, the hardcore players and those who love playing game want a simple answer and they would like to see whats happening i myself don't want suggestions on the gameplay at this current moment in time ,, have already stepped away from playing and not buying anything ,, opera as already been updated with a message saying that flash will be removed on the 20 of December ..
its not rocket science is it..
almost reminds me of talking to the uk mp's they can never answer the question :D
I second this. In fact, in the new incarnation of this game, I would suggest to take every effort to reduce the number of clicks.
To extend this -
- Bulk sending Geo and explorer
- Bulk loading generals with troops (something like, I will select which are the gens I need then a panel will come with total limit of the gens and let me pack troops in single window.
- rejuvinate feature: same as above, if I select a exhausted field / well, it will ask me if I want to rejuvinate all and based on my resources it would rejuvinate in sequential way of oldest first.
- mines: if there are multiple mines available then clicking on one, should have option to initiate all construction.
I 3rd this! Please reduce the clicking madness for higher end players.
Few hints from me for future
a) I would like to see summary of items when I do multi dumping from "Loot Mail", actually see what will be add to my stock
b) I would like to see summary of the troops looses from adventure / not just in each round/battle but from all rounds/battles together (I do not want to count each of them)
of course also improvements with game but other guys already post it here (rid of the flash, stable game, lower HW resources requirements, multi platform support, multi sending explorers or geologists...)
SettlerSamuel
26.09.20, 06:25
Yes...
THIS
18 weeks to go then........
Browser update expected to remove all flash support, uninstall any downloaded flash plugins, and remove all download links from their sites so that it is no longer possible to download a sanctioned flash plugin from the major vendors.
As stated by the previous posts, it would be nice to know what technology is going to be used to keep the game alive, and when we may see a "new.tsotesting.com" with some proof that the plan is already well underway.
Even saying that something is in limited beta test now would give a bit of confidence back.
This must be one of the most pathetic updates ever
The update is........... that there is no update. Many thanks BB
In all honesty I am slightly taken back that 3 months away from the end of flash we are asked for suggestions. With 3 months to go one would expect there is a clear strategy as to what will replace the current setup the fundamental designs are in place and in reality one would hope you are in some kind of beta testing stage of core functionality. The last thing any developers what to here with 3 months before go live is, "oh here are a bunch of new additions from the community". The new design should have been locked down by now and your in bug fixing stage. Only changes are to resolve flaws and not adding features. Your main focus now should not be on asking what people would like but planning your cut-over strategy.
Having worked in IT for a long time and planning and implementing major system upgrades. The fact you are asking for ideas now, fills me with concerns as to the direction (if any) you are going.
Its a very good point some have made it takes months to recode to another system so you must have a direction your heading in or your just lying to delay the fact there is no future to the game as no one will invest in a game with no future....if its the fact you are not sure what you are testing will work again you should be telling us or the excuse will be that we was hoping it would work and it hasnt so thats that.....I remember a BB saying they didnt want to take the game down for a long period to transfer the game but again if that happened we all know they game wouldnt come back as people would get used to having no game
Mortallicus
26.09.20, 15:05
Can a flash game be embedded into HTML with a link within the same site to send to a new TSO area which starts of as another Island you can travel to. Slowly making the flash version unnecessary. So the HTML would have to be cross-linked for population, stock and army . I have bigger visions of this but do not have the know how to explain how it could be done and maybe it cannot.
I know absolutely nothing as this question may show.
The_Sarmatian
26.09.20, 16:44
This must be one of the most pathetic updates ever
The update is........... that there is no update. Many thanks BB
Update is great!
Well, BB wrote, they are writing alone standing client for TSO. Didn't they?
I guess 2gb memory issue won't be an issue no more.
Now, we know they put some programmers on the job.
I hope for monthly updates or how long their scrum runs go.
After all players on TSO are also an interested and invested party ;)
Important is they write in such a architecture, that conversion into different platforms won't be an issue. Linux here ;)
Scrum unfortunately is a little chaotic programming style, so some architecture should be agreed upon.
Good luck BB!
Mannerheim
26.09.20, 17:27
Update is great!
Well, BB wrote, they are writing alone standing client for TSO. Didn't they?
They did not. In fact they pretty much did not actually say anything. It's kinda the same "we are working on or looking for..." that has been said for years. It's soon a month from the original post and we still don't even know the platforms that will be supported or will it remain as a cross-platform browser game. Not even the used "tech" has been named while it should already be set in stone by now.
Only around 2 months to early December where the new system should already be running in the hands of players at test or live server.
"To celebrate 10 years of The Settlers Online we’d like to give you further insight into the future development of the game. As many of you are aware, the game is currently running with Flash which will no longer be supported starting next year."
Where are those thoughts and insights ???????????????
I cant find them - I would like to read them, as I am sure the rest of the settlers players would.
"To celebrate 10 years of The Settlers Online we’d like to give you further insight into the future development of the game. As many of you are aware, the game is currently running with Flash which will no longer be supported starting next year."
Where are those thoughts and insights ???????????????
I cant find them - I would like to read them, as I am sure the rest of the settlers players would.
please read all that post and let us know what you understood from it
please read all that post and let us know what you understood from it
and how would that enlighten me???
we have been waiting for years - as I already said - players have left the game thinking it will end in December, and many players have stopped buying gems, and then instead of telling us something they just tell us they will tell us something, without telling us something. I cant see that there is time to do it based on the wishes in here- most of what have been put before in here, only to be noticed by fellow players. I would assume that if the game is to go on BB should have a plan by now. The fact that BB just keep stalling- makes me think that they just want to cash in all they can before they close the shop.
and how would that enlighten me???
we have been waiting for years - as I already said - players have left the game thinking it will end in December, and many players have stopped buying gems, and then instead of telling us something they just tell us they will tell us something, without telling us something. I cant see that there is time to do it based on the wishes in here- most of what have been put before in here, only to be noticed by fellow players. I would assume that if the game is to go on BB should have a plan by now. The fact that BB just keep stalling- makes me think that they just want to cash in all they can before they close the shop.
they are saying in there that they are working on a solution to keep the game going.
besides the fact that they are not specifying which that'll be or if that there is a beta testing or not (not that they have to)
or even that they have started already on smtg, i'd take that as a "Yes, we will still be playing this game after flash will end".
it's only a game anyway. i won't hang on on what they could've / should've or didn't do so far.
looking back at their revenues, they've done pretty well
MaelstromJ
28.09.20, 21:21
Please give us the chance to explore, find and colonise new lands.... as far as I'm concerned the named 'settlers' lost it's meaning as far as the game goes ages ago... I spend more time in world sending off explorers and replacing fields and while there's nowhere to build or settle theres little point in buying gems.....
There is one possibility I have not seen mentioned here. By not providing us with the information they are also keeping the information out of the hands of the less than honest types. The existence of a rule about 3rd party software means they know it's beyond them to ensure game security. However by not letting the cat out of the bag they are denying those unsavoury types months of development time.
I quite liked the island system in Anno Online, being able to shift production to other islands and then ship them to where needed seemed to work. Settlers Online has become more like a game about maximising space efficiency. The new trend towards large buildings where their speed increases the more of them you have does not help.
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-54339972
FarmVille, once the most popular game on Facebook, is to close down in December, more than 11 years after its launch.
At its peak, FarmVille had more than 80 million players tending to crops and raising animals - and asking Facebook friends for help.
But the social network will stop supporting Flash-based games in December, rendering it unplayable.
Will this happen to T.S.O. ? "close down" ?
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-54339972
Will this happen to T.S.O. ? "close down" ?
have you read the post on the homepage?
if you have game suggestions, use the right sections for them
this thread slowly is going of track...
have you read the post on the homepage?
if you have game suggestions, use the right sections for them
this thread slowly is going of track...
His post fitted more into this thread then yours did...seeing they are asking if tso is headed the same way
lordloocan
29.09.20, 19:49
have you read the post on the homepage?
if you have game suggestions, use the right sections for them
this thread slowly is going of track...
Worth noting that for the past 6 months the game mentioned has been saying constantly that they are 'working on alternatives'...Odd that.
Bulk sending I would like a get building where can tell what explorer looking and when have found it, would start to find automatic new search, why could not use on explorers samekind thing.
Would be nice to get somekind generall mass moving too, could move all together to next place, or when generall have attack it not move on where it start attack, it would move nearest area what is friendly area and start building camp there...mass attack would be nice to have too where could send generall on enemy camp but could make order wich generall attack first, second, third and that kind way. Attack report would be nice to see how much enemy units lost too.
Anyway if this is wrong place to write these I am sorry.
Worth noting that for the past 6 months the game mentioned has been saying constantly that they are 'working on alternatives'...Odd that.
Indeed.... Come on BB give us some detail please - there is no justifiable reason to not reveal what the new technology is, how the development is going and when we will see some beta testing - tick tock, tick tock December looms ever closer....
rodrigosg79
01.10.20, 18:20
Please get rid of Flash
Please get rid of Flash
you been sleeping? or just didnt read they are getting rid of flash
it's 02/10/2020, happy houre... no solution or een glimps of solution about adobe player..o,ly much blababla just in politics..sorry not paing for gems this time!
i had to log in with it!! no sleeping!
So first off... Im happy and excited for the future.
there are some ideas i have that all are rooted in the useless stuff we have.
i know some have been talking about a "refundable" option.
For some items that would be good for me as there is stuff i never use.
But for generals and explorers i wouldnt want to refund.
for explorers maybe some way to easier manage them.
But for the generals that we dont use i would like to see a way that we can use them again. Yes there are some ways to use many generals with 1r for blocking with minimal losses. But to be honest id rather see some different use of my older generals.
1. We could have them function like explorers. we could load them with troops we have plenty of and send them on some kind of adventure where we cant control them and where they gather experience and resources and return "empty" of troops. I would use every single general once again if we get a option like this.
It could be like "daily Server wide goal/adventure" where we donate troops using our generals to "fight a war" and they all return with beneficial stuff aswell as exp.
2. Likewise we could have guild vs guild wars or just Guild PVE wars/adventures where we send generals and troops to defeat a common enemy where we get exp + guild coins + usefull stuff (buffs and resources). it could be repeatable over and over once the guild have defeated the map/enemy.
3. a implementation of (1) and a seperate Guild vs guild option using Marshals for those guilds and players who would like that kind of action.
WildWizard
06.10.20, 13:53
86 days to go and still no indication that the game will continue without flash.
At this point in time they should be inviting people to a new test server running the game on whatever platform they are porting it to. The lack of information about even the platform they intend to use indicates they have no plans for the future of this game.
In all honesty i hope they do have it sorted but part of me thinks come december I will come to the game and it wont be here all that will be is a notice saying due to flash ending and we had hoped we could work out an alternative but sadly that isnt the case so the game has had to be ended...which translates to we did try for 5 minutes a few months ago when we realized we couldnt use the slim browser like we intended too but we needed the sales so we kept quiet dangling a carrot in front of your noses...til the very last minute
"The Pathfinder" lvl70 weekly ship. First reward 300 grout. That would be more useful for a lvl70 player if we would got 300 oil.
It should be greatfull if we can have some mines for grout and obisian, even new space in starmeny for specialistes, 1 space for generals, 1 for explorer and 1 for gelogs.
A new sector for all generals would be nice
Many thanks
Minile
Maybe to make upgrades more interesting, on lvl 20 buildings or 2 or 3 different directions of upgrades . Some sort of automatic trade will be nice, so players dont have to build everything. For example , someone build fishing island and set the trade in automatic purchase for all what he need for fish . Also it will be interesting that you can build houses on rocks or everywhere. Roads should have function and upgrades. Speed up the building process.
dunno why u all use this thread to post game suggestions as it deals with flash and the effects of flash being stopped at end of year - we have a whole forum dedicated to game suggestions -
Realise also that game devs will not dumpster dive these threads for the gold nuggets or fake gold suggestions, If you hope for them to read em, the best shot is posting on TSO testing forums and german forums - best shot on these forums is the game suggestions sections with catchy post names :P
dunno why u all use this thread to post game suggestions as it deals with flash and the effects of flash being stopped at end of year - we have a whole forum dedicated to game suggestions -
Realise also that game devs will not dumpster dive these threads for the gold nuggets or fake gold suggestions, If you hope for them to read em, the best shot is posting on TSO testing forums and german forums - best shot on these forums is the game suggestions sections with catchy post names :P
it's a long thread called "Game Suggestions" :)
I need some encouragement to play Halloween. Honestly, with zero visible activity from BB to port the game and make sure it runs after flash crash I am more and more suspicious that there will be no TSO game to play next year. If there is no guarantied future for the game, why bother to get new stuff. Talk to us BB. Your silence is detrimental.
As this is a wish list. . .
Somewhere for all the generals to live upon there return to the island. Not scattered around as they are currently. It is so untidy.
A way to group explores and send on the same task. I do not want to necessarily send all my explorers on a given task.
3D so I can walk through the island.
More space - Second island(s) With different resources. ie Titanium. You know like we (I) thought colonies was going to be.
Ability to be in more than 1 adventure at a time.
More campaigns at the Foot of the mountain level, only please do not add the long walks to everything. IT is NOT FUN.
Fix the most awful adventures so they are good to play. You know what ones they are by now.
AFK FLag
More Gem Pits
Changeable resource bar at top of screen.
Aditional statistics to the game interface. Things like running count of adv completions, total resources used, hours online. That sort of thing. I am guessing the data is available as its part used in achievements.
Have an awsome day
Wuselwirbel
14.10.20, 12:33
As Qualan pointed out: This is not the place for game suggestions but about BB supposedly working on a port of the game beyond flash.
After the latest update Flash starts nagging me with daily questions to delete it, so the countdown is clearly on. BB still gives us no indication of HOW or WHEN they will port the game. The many packages for gems they offer look to me like all they care about is cashing in on a game that might not survive past December. I'd love to be wrong but BB is not acting in any manner that convinces me (or many others) of their having a realistic plan and time-table for the move beyond Flash.
No gem purchases from me until they convince me. That's probably the only language that matters to them.
As Qualan pointed out: This is not the place for game suggestions but about BB supposedly working on a port of the game beyond flash.
After the latest update Flash starts nagging me with daily questions to delete it, so the countdown is clearly on. BB still gives us no indication of HOW or WHEN they will port the game. The many packages for gems they offer look to me like all they care about is cashing in on a game that might not survive past December. I'd love to be wrong but BB is not acting in any manner that convinces me (or many others) of their having a realistic plan and time-table for the move beyond Flash.
No gem purchases from me until they convince me. That's probably the only language that matters to them.
Normally i would agree seeing the thread is the future of TSO but the bb made it about what ppl would like to see and that included game suggestions ..honestly i think that was just a ploy to divert everyones thoughts on the fact BB with less then 6 weeks before the countdown starts for all browsers to in some way block flash from even installing ..they are also not doing themselves any fovours on sales with uncertainty alot of ppl including me have pulled away from buying gems I want a load for halloween but i am not gonna go spend several hundred pounds for the game to disappear a month later...what ever the new tech is it wont be new it would be already established software because there has been no beta testing etc done
Normally i would agree seeing the thread is the future of TSO but the bb made it about what ppl would like to see and that included game suggestions ..honestly i think that was just a ploy to divert everyones thoughts on the fact BB with less then 6 weeks before the countdown starts for all browsers to in some way block flash from even installing ..they are also not doing themselves any fovours on sales with uncertainty alot of ppl including me have pulled away from buying gems I want a load for halloween but i am not gonna go spend several hundred pounds for the game to disappear a month later...what ever the new tech is it wont be new it would be already established software because there has been no beta testing etc done
Yes - been said before - but very well put, and as no one from BB ever give any feedback - we cant do anything but say it again, and again and again................
WildWizard
17.10.20, 09:05
Flash is now prompting to uninstall.
If Adobe's wording is any indication it will disable itself after the 31st of Dec.
https://www.adobe.com/au/products/flashplayer/end-of-life.html
Flash-based content will be blocked from running in Adobe Flash Player after the EOL Date.
and so will settlers do to new intel
MeneerHepatica
18.10.20, 16:14
Maybe about time for BB to give us some update about how they are progressing? December 31 is getting very close....
have already cleared my island and only kepted my message and storage ,, have had enough of ubisoft bluebyte ignorance just like ANNO days plus i have alot going on in RL so really their lack of proper information leads alot to be desired i get more communication from BT than ubisoft ,, anyways ya all stay safe and don't take any nonce from ubisoft..
Just read the latest announcement sorry am not impressed i will not put my computer at risk on playing adobe software for 3 months thats very close for when you have to re-register the domain.
A way to see what our current e-mail address would be a nice addition.
I have idea, made that we can add some friends from anouther world ? or made something like : every monats that all worlds is change around ours, on that way we can add some friends from anouther world, I have a lot friends but, thay are on anouther world and I cant invite them, I try with email but its not working. Made that, and we all be happy with that. :)
Spell checker for chat. i need that :)
A chat filter with less racist tendencies.
It will be usefull that guild friends or friends can maintain player island during the few weeks when player cant do it because holliday , hospital or some other things...
I got the slim browser to work fine when I first downloaded it. After I uninstalled and then re-installed Flash though, I am now stuck on the setup flash screen no matter what I try.
cheethamhill
10.11.20, 04:34
If you're using the Game Installer and not the Browser to play the game you need to install this Adobe Flash Player for Firefox from Adobe website.
https://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/otherversions/
Step 1:
Operating System: Select Windows 10
Step2:
Select a version: FP 32 for Firefox - NPAPI
Follow the prompts. Should be all set ;-)
If you're using the Game Installer and not the Browser to play the game you need to install this Adobe Flash Player for Firefox from Adobe website.
https://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/otherversions/
Step 1:
Operating System: Select Windows 10
Step2:
Select a version: FP 32 for Firefox - NPAPI
Follow the prompts. Should be all set ;-)
does it work for you?
I would like to know what the plan is for in a month or so time when flash is blocked? i get we are required to use a stand alone version to tide us over till unity is done.. but what is that exactly the slim browser that has been broke for most ppl for months?..or a new version if it is then surely it needs releasing now so we can weed out the bugs or is that the plan tell everyone to switch over and find most of the game cant use it
When opening the "sending generals" window, put all the generals with troops on top.
When opening the "sending generals" window, put all the generals with troops on top.
You mean the quatermasters then, who carry all the troops while the gens stay in the star rather than taking a spot for nothing on home island?
And as you cannot preload a gen in star, that wouldn't solve anything about having to search each gen individually before sending him/her out...
Graciethecat
17.11.20, 12:09
I would like see the ability to change the settlers appearance ingame.
Now that the Halloween is over, will the community be provided some details as move closer to the new year? Will we have a Christmas event? If yes, what would the timeline be? Traditionally the event has carried over into the new year.
What will happen to the accounts that are currently not active?
The community has so many questions, a Dev Diary providing some of the known details would be appreciated. As more details are finalized, an update to the dev diary could be added.
Thank you to those doing the working behind the scenes on this transition.
As there is a new download client, is it safe to assume that all players of the game will not be able to used it unless they are running Windows?
Come on TSO where are the other download clients for Mac and Linux?
BB_Trafffer
01.12.20, 13:28
As there is a new download client, is it safe to assume that all players of the game will not be able to used it unless they are running Windows?
Come on TSO where are the other download clients for Mac and Linux?
As it's stated on our website:
Please note: this is not our "Step 2" from our previously posted "Future Timeline"; that will be met when we release this new downloadable client for our live instances.
As it's stated on our website:
Please note: this is not our "Step 2" from our previously posted "Future Timeline"; that will be met when we release this new downloadable client for our live instances.
Step 2 happens prior to the Xmas event which is now only 5 days away, 2 of which are a weekend. Some up to date progress report would be welcomed here
lordloocan
16.12.20, 12:06
Come on BB, when are you moving to the standalone client on the live worlds, if at all? In the Christmas event sneak peek you said:
''....Well, Step 2 is upon us! In a few days, our new client will become available. This client must be downloaded and installed to play the game...''
The word ''few'' is designed to emphasise how small a number is. 5 days have now gone by and I wouldn't use the word few to describe that period, especially since there are now only 5 days to go to the event. and only 2 of those are working days...which in your terms is a lot less than a few days.
In common usage, a couple is generally around two, a few is more than that, but usually less than five, and several is around five or more, a number that can be severed into smaller groups. Although indefinite in nature, a few is usually more than two (two often being referred to as "a couple of"), and less than "several". If the sample population is say between 5 and 20, a few would mean three or four, but no more than this.
People need time to sort out any issues caused by the download client - I know people who still cannot login to the test server using it and fear we will be losing large numbers of players.
Why not cut your losses and pull back from all this nonsense and close the game down for 3 months until Unity, or similar, is sorted and then email all the player base to say it is ready. and give each player an access code? We then login exactly as normal, enter the access code the first time we login, and get back to playing? I would suggest that you would lose less players that way than making people jump through all these hoops - many of which don't work properly.
If you look at all the steps involved for the player base the current paths are nuts. Contact support to disconnect account from Steam, contact Facebook to get a code to make a password to get to Legacy. Get from Legacy to Ubisoft using a step by step guide that has multiple errors. And those are the ones I have had to help guild mates overcome. I am lucky that I am computer literate but many many of the players are not and are being left drowning.
You have messed up by leaving the arrangements far too late and would suggest it is time to step back, have a fresh look and think again about the process.
andrew7711
16.12.20, 12:40
certainly time for an updated statement at the very least we are all adults and can cope with a its not going quite to plan statement we all figured that out regardless
communication is key
Why not cut your losses and pull back from all this nonsense and close the game down for 3 months until Unity, or similar, is sorted and then email all the player base to say it is ready. and give each player an access code? We then login exactly as normal, enter the access code the first time we login, and get back to playing? I would suggest that you would lose less players that way than making people jump through all these hoops - many of which don't work properly.
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can you stay away from the game for 3 months?
isn't that everyone's/your choice to do so? why you need BB to tell you to?
if anyone don't like this road we're on atm, i bet they're not active in game or even making plans for it till it's all moved over
andrew7711
16.12.20, 13:44
the point being made is that instead of this farce we currently experiencing ie test not working intermittent statements promises we all recieve a email welcome back guys we ready instead of this path that seems be either a runaway train or a blind beta test via another name
As it's stated on our website:
So you have now reached step 2 on your timeline and still choose not to publish an intermediate client for Linux and Mac. And according to your announcement, you cannot log in without the client after the maintenance. You cut off roughly 10% of all players and have not given a clear answer as to what we can expect. And no answer at all for Linux users.
Just let all other users access the legacy Flash version of the game in the meantime. It is better to live with something unsupported than nothing at all.
Unbelievable...
it's posted already that a mac guide is coming soon.
Check News & Announcements
I read that as a Mac installation guide - I still expect an interim client tomorrow.
I read that as a Mac installation guide - I still expect an interim client tomorrow.
they dont seem to have a mac installer on the french servers they are not happy campers
No solution for linux users either... I'm NOT happy...
I read that as a Mac installation guide - I still expect an interim client tomorrow.
No Mac client until January according to BB_Traffer here (https://forum.thesettlersonline.com/threads/38014-LIVESERVER-New-downloadable-client?p=360567#post360567).
What? Support mobile devices?
Shut up and take my money!
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