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hades8840
10.12.20, 06:44
I cant be the only one well i know i aint hence this post who wants to know where the unity test server is.... this was meant to be the first thing on the time line graphic we was shown some proof that things going forward we had life after Flash... but so far we havent seen anything no new look nothing so we can get a feel of the interface... being the devils advocate so far all i have seen is a downloadable client that is still based on flash being rolled out which is great for short term use but whats to say when we all move over .. BlueByte in its great wisdom doesnt decide of this will work instead we can ditch unity... people have put up with it for 3 months whats another 3 then another 3 ..

eveyone is focused on the xmas event and the client I want to see the unity test server

shackcat
10.12.20, 12:17
I agree, an explanation on the way forward would be greatly appreciated.

qawpaw
10.12.20, 12:31
then dont play
people only complain these days
give them a chance

hades8840
10.12.20, 14:29
then dont play
people only complain these days
give them a chance

A chance i am going by there time line ..

JohnRo79
10.12.20, 19:07
you moan too much about it. and it seems it's not just me

so far you had 2 versions of an app to run the test server. what do you think that was?
i call it work towards the new tech.

calm down and eat a cookie

hades8840
10.12.20, 20:08
you moan too much about it. and it seems it's not just me

so far you had 2 versions of an app to run the test server. what do you think that was?
i call it work towards the new tech.

calm down and eat a cookie

i think the 2 versions on the test server were not the unity test server but harman flash client so none of that is towards the new tech

shackcat
11.12.20, 10:26
then dont play
people only complain these days
give them a chance

I am not complaining, I am asking a legitimate question as I have invested time and money in this game and I want to see it succeed.


you moan too much about it. and it seems it's not just me

so far you had 2 versions of an app to run the test server. what do you think that was?
i call it work towards the new tech.

calm down and eat a cookie

I am quite calm thank you. What type of cookies, I really like Oreo and Tim Tam

On the 23 Nov BB posted the 'TSO Future Timeline & FAQ' and then the +125% gem promotion which was/is a great promotion, which convinced me that Settlers Online had a future, that a plan was in place and I made a purchase/invest in this game.

On the 26 Nov BB posted 'Test Server: New Downloadable Client', so 3 days after the Timeline was reveled were are already deviating from the timeline.
On the 09 Dec BB posted 'TSO Testing Maintenance' were we are informed of the 'Flash-based Client deployment', were did that come from.

I want this game to succeed, but when the customer is not kept properly informed, then support dies, gem packages aren't purchased
and then another great game is lost.

JohnRo79
11.12.20, 11:41
since this was posted in General Discussion, i believe i was invited too to an opinion and i've dropped mine

i've tried old versions of collie finders and none worked

also, those 2 flash versions you've tried are app related and not unity server. hence the new big update on test

work is being done as you all can see to move to smtg else that'll work.
a cookie will make the transition smoother

hades8840
11.12.20, 12:28
since this was posted in General Discussion, i believe i was invited too to an opinion and i've dropped mine

i've tried old versions of collie finders and none worked

also, those 2 flash versions you've tried are app related and not unity server. hence the new big update on test

work is being done as you all can see to move to smtg else that'll work.
a cookie will make the transition smoother

like to know when they did the update to the test server i seen the home page and like many others have been sat on the test server daily with nowt changing ...i know very well the rc1 and rc2 have been app related but I wanted to know hence why i asked here what happened to the UNITY test server as that was meant to be thye first thing released and they seem to have missed that very important step out everything that has been on the test server so far has had nothing to do with the new unity software that our future lays in just the stop gap that we will be using till we move over...I just like may others would just like to know whats happening with the unity server

Qualan
11.12.20, 12:56
hehe- u don;t know BB history

chances of people being banned are low as that means working to detect the problem - There is a fairly long trackrecord in TSO where bugs have been used and abused without much of a blow back

But i doubt many if any will try to program a solution in this stage of the game and with the roadmap ahead )

It doesnt matter much in the grnd scheme of things, it is more a trust issue if they will actually move to unity or go through the motions and find too many hurdles and decide to run this client till end of life

BB_Trafffer
11.12.20, 13:12
We've made an announcement here (https://forum.thesettlersonline.com/threads/37973-TSO-Future-Timeline-amp-Unity-FAQ) where you can see the timeline as well as an explanation as to why we didn't set dates for our steps. Both the Unity Test Server and our new Downloadable client are set ahead of the Christmas event. Since we recently released the date for our Xmas event, you can expect more information soon.

hades8840
19.12.20, 13:11
We've made an announcement here (https://forum.thesettlersonline.com/threads/37973-TSO-Future-Timeline-amp-Unity-FAQ) where you can see the timeline as well as an explanation as to why we didn't set dates for our steps. Both the Unity Test Server and our new Downloadable client are set ahead of the Christmas event. Since we recently released the date for our Xmas event, you can expect more information soon.


well where is the test server then? still no sign and from what i just read by your counterpart on the german servers seems we have been deceived

when asked the same as i asked you where the unity test server is seeing it was meant to be first the BB response was

Oh good point, that confuses me a bit at the moment.
Basically we went two ways and put the game on Harman (I'll just call it that) and Unity. The Christmas event is already running with / on Unity and is used by Harman. So indirectly we already had our "Unity Test", although not officially.

I'll let Ondgrund investigate again on Monday. Unfortunately, I don't have a developer "here" today to besiege. It would also be possible that we start a separate thorough Unity test again in the new year.



If what is said is true then the future of the game is what you have released which isnt what we was told ...the game was meant to be redesigned as i remember it being said the devs could take the opportunity to do a re-design of the interface etc

Nogbad
22.12.20, 03:09
i've tried old versions of collie finders and none worked




Rather hoping this is the end of that illegal Pinky hack, what an awfully programmed kludge and completely unnecessary, just pay the 9 gems for a "fairy fire".

Not too sure about the name "Unity" though, brings back memories of that awful Mitford sister and her lover with a body part displayed in the Albert Hall. ;)

Norton_C
22.12.20, 04:12
Rather hoping this is the end of that illegal Pinky hack, what an awfully programmed kludge and completely unnecessary, just pay the 9 gems for a "fairy fire".



You must have been using that "illegal Pinky hack" instead of paying your 9 gems for Fairy - since you know what an "awfully programmed kludge" it is. :)

Nogbad
22.12.20, 07:41
Nope, seen it in action though, what a mess.

Durin_d
22.12.20, 11:56
BB response was

Oh good point, that confuses me a bit at the moment.
Basically we went two ways and put the game on Harman (I'll just call it that) and Unity. The Christmas event is already running with / on Unity and is used by Harman. So indirectly we already had our "Unity Test", although not officially.

I'll let Ondgrund investigate again on Monday. Unfortunately, I don't have a developer "here" today to besiege. It would also be possible that we start a separate thorough Unity test again in the new year.


This explains a lot why we can't get straight answers from our community managers. They don't know what Flash, Harman, Unity, HTML5, etc really mean.

Harman is a standalone Flash-player that runs the Flash version of the game (client.swf file). Unity is application development environment / library that is used to build modern web apps using technologies under the HTML5-umbrella (JavaScript, WebSockets, etc.)

JohnRo79
22.12.20, 19:04
well where is the test server then? still no sign and from what i just read by your counterpart on the german servers seems we have been deceived

when asked the same as i asked you where the unity test server is seeing it was meant to be first the BB response was

Oh good point, that confuses me a bit at the moment.
Basically we went two ways and put the game on Harman (I'll just call it that) and Unity. The Christmas event is already running with / on Unity and is used by Harman. So indirectly we already had our "Unity Test", although not officially.

I'll let Ondgrund investigate again on Monday. Unfortunately, I don't have a developer "here" today to besiege. It would also be possible that we start a separate thorough Unity test again in the new year.



If what is said is true then the future of the game is what you have released which isnt what we was told ...the game was meant to be redesigned as i remember it being said the devs could take the opportunity to do a re-design of the interface etc

since now you know the truth from other servers, what's your next step?

Mannerheim
22.12.20, 19:43
BB_Ondgrund posted this today:

"The client and related issues were a priority, so the Unity test server won't come until next year. Setting up the new test server also takes time and it is currently more important that as many players as possible have access to the live servers."

Seems that their schedule got messed up but also makes you wonder if we will even see the final Unity version before summer. I'm also wondering is it actually BB doing the Unity version alone or is it some other Ubisoft doing it fully or aiding. Their schedule seemed over optimistic if they intend to keep nearly 1:1 experience with HTML5 as it imposes significant restrictions compared to what Flash allowed.

Nogbad
22.12.20, 21:17
Agree with what Mannerheim has just pointed out, HTML5 can be severely restrictive, and I hope BB are in touch with some of the original devs because porting the game is really going to expose the bugs created during the latter days of the "Flash era".
Durin has very kindly and clearly explained the differences between the ongoing/pending systems which hopefully will help several CMs on different instances be clearer in their replies.
Grateful to him for explaining that Unity falls under the HTML5 umbrella, having experienced ports to that on several other sites, some players are going to struggle with running the game, even simple card and "match 3" type games have required hardware acceleration turned on before they'll even start, TSO is much more complex than them and will need much more capable computers to run than many of us have got away with in the past.
That makes it essential we have a thorough testing environment and much better attention from BB to players' feedback than the test server has shown in the past.
Get this wrong and you will lose a significant number on top of those already excluded by having 32bit machines and the login issues.

ClarenceDuPont
08.02.21, 13:53
28/01/2021; BB said

In order to give you a first impression as soon as possible, we will shortly be giving you access to a Unity test server. There you can take a first look at an early version that is currently still in development. An exact date, including instructions for logging in, will follow in the coming days.

Any news please? Or is coming days now coming weeks?

Epic_Sandwich
11.02.21, 06:29
then dont play
people only complain these days
give them a chance

lol,what a difference a few weeks make!

ClarenceDuPont
15.02.21, 10:39
28/01/2021; BB said


In order to give you a first impression as soon as possible, we will shortly be giving you access to a Unity test server. There you can take a first look at an early version that is currently still in development. An exact date, including instructions for logging in, will follow in the coming days.
Any news please? Or is coming days now coming weeks?

Another week goes by....

hades8840
23.02.21, 20:38
BB defination of shortly must be off compared to the rest of the world they must use sloth time

ClarenceDuPont
01.03.21, 22:26
... tumbleweed ...

lordloocan
02.03.21, 10:06
I am wondering if our BB Community Manager quit hence the lack of feedback

Qualan
02.03.21, 11:00
just normal situation

sslewster
02.03.21, 16:58
The test server will be released exactly at [REDACTED], so now you know

hades8840
08.03.21, 19:38
easter is 2-3 weeks away in that time unity was meant to go live let alone even a smell of a test version so far we havent seen anything and are just teased enough to keep us here like the carrot and the stick so come on BB whats happening because from all indications unity will NOT be live for the easter event

ClarenceDuPont
09.03.21, 11:48
If they were transparent with times, and delays, I'd understand but time and again, there are half promises or total darkness.

To say there will be an exact date in the coming days and no date 5 weeks later is not good. They don't even meet the date to give a date!!

If the comment was "we're targeting middle march for the test server but obviously this might get delayed", most would be disappointed with that but OK with having the info and being informed.

Schipperke
09.03.21, 14:37
BB Trafffer posted this on the North American forum yesterday:
The Unity version is scheduled to be released before our Easter event. Here's the thread: https://forum.thesettlersonline.net/threads/26242-Feedback-Change-Log-01-03-21?p=295846#post295846

So it would appear that they are still expecting to bring in Unity before the Easter event starts.
Of course, that post doesn't say when the Easter event is going to be - maybe it won't start till next fall? lol

hades8840
09.03.21, 14:38
well easter event is on test server so I would say they have yet again lied as i very much doubt we will see the unity server thats even if it exists all the signs say it doesnt as very little info cept its coming

ClarenceDuPont
10.03.21, 10:00
Straight to live could be..... erm.... interesting....

limalhadeferro
10.03.21, 10:53
[QUOTE=So it would appear that they are still expecting to bring in Unity before the Easter event starts.
Of course, that post doesn't say when the Easter event is going to be - maybe it won't start till next fall? lol[/QUOTE]

correction. the easter event will start in time, but no one said the year of the event the unity platform would be available :D :D :D

BB_Trafffer
10.03.21, 13:37
Hello folks!

I know you are all waiting for news about our Unity test server and Live Unity version.

Releasing Unity Version is our top priority and the entire team is working hard to bring it up as soon as possible. If there are any changes to the planned schedule, we will announce it.

I want to thank everyone for feedback - it's constantly shared with the entire team.

Qualan
10.03.21, 15:04
Hi BB Traffer

Thank you for a reaction, alas it has hardly any informational value. The reality of the planning versus current timeline looks to be that there will be a postponement or at a minimum a change of plans as EOW event is hardly the "unity event" between valentine and easter and easter is just around the corner already.

I realise the game is Pegi-7 but most players are mature enough to handle the message that the plans have changed - even if no new timelines are announced ....

limalhadeferro
10.03.21, 16:26
Hello folks!

I know you are all waiting for news about our Unity test server and Live Unity version.

Releasing Unity Version is our top priority and the entire team is working hard to bring it up as soon as possible. If there are any changes to the planned schedule, we will announce it.

I want to thank everyone for feedback - it's constantly shared with the entire team.


thanks for coming forward, at least give us that.
but alas, this all means yet another timeline will be missed by BB, what a shocker!

if you guys aren't planning on releasing a version for all the systems the players use, just say so.
"hey guys, we just realized we're incompetent and we've decided that this game will only run on windows machines from now on, sorry"
that would suck, but at least it would be the truth, instead of jurcking us around with missed deadlines time and time again.

you guys have missed all the deadlines so far, and mind you, deadlines set by BB, not us.
christmas, valentines, and the mistery event all gone for people not able to login because of BB's failure.
the easter event will be another miss for us for sure, and guess who's to blame? i'll give you a hint, it's not us players…

having said all this,
cheers

Norton_C
10.03.21, 18:26
We do not have fixed dates for every step. Some steps might move a week later or earlier so we want to avoid confusion by giving estimated dates that might change. Instead, you can see roughly when each step will take place.


One last note. Please be aware that especially during these times even the best-planned and most beautiful timelines can be tricky to adhere to. Thus, we ask for your understanding in case of unforeseen changes in timings.

That's clear enough for everyone with basic English skills, isn't it.

kawaman
11.03.21, 12:10
That's clear enough for everyone with basic English skills, isn't it.

Clearly not for you, the first post in this thread is dated 10/12/2020, you quoted 'Some steps might move a week later or earlier', I'd say, with my limited English skills, that any posts questioning the whereabouts of the Unity test server is more than justified.

Qualan
12.03.21, 13:02
Or any general information and an update so we can roughly see if they will roughly hit the target or if there is a target or i that ship has sailed and such ...

we are near the end of that rough timeline and erm, lacking any real progress and any information except the "we are working on it" which could mean anything from we will can the whole project and run this client till end of life, we are x amount of weeks/months behind schedule (if u play on a mac, find something else to play) to we will launch next week .... A bit of a spread and yes it does matter


If we are on variant 1: Hardly anyone will spent money on gems
If we are on variant 2: all mac/linux players will move away and not spent money- many windows players will look carefully what they will do, meaning a load will spent hardly anything
I we are on variant 3: we all can rejoice and spent for the new goodies/premium etc - I this scenario is on us, telling us will help as many will then spent earlier than unity release

So informing is about variant 3 would be to BB's benefit .... Not informing us on variant 1 would also be to BB's benefit ... informing on variant 2 would be a toss-up really. The cynics will work out the scenario based on available information - :P

General_hux
13.03.21, 19:22
what is the planned schedule? because if we are all totally honest with ourselves (rehtorical comments) there are fewer and fewer people each day nd probably hour, that believe the planned schedule to be the same as the current published schedule.

Norton_C
14.03.21, 00:30
Clearly not for you, the first post in this thread is dated 10/12/2020, you quoted 'Some steps might move a week later or earlier', I'd say, with my limited English skills, that any posts questioning the whereabouts of the Unity test server is more than justified.

All I was pointing to is the fact acknowledged by BB themselves that project like this is difficult to time as a lot of unexpected can happen. Thus no need for some thugs to bully coders with derogatory comments about their skills etc. Clear enough to me even without BB acknowledging that. So I find it not difficult to extend some grace and understanding to them. As to asking questions without bullying, I have no problems with that. Would like to know more myself.

Qualan
14.03.21, 07:18
So I find it not difficult to extend some grace and understanding to them. .

That ship has long past sailed, The date of publishing of that timeline was 3 weeks before end of life for flash by Adobe.

Most questions about replacement of flash have been asked and re-asked for around 2 years now

The answers have been few and far in between and severely lacking details- Except for that timeline post.

Alas for most that have some knowledge of IT processes, we also know that this timeline is now if not impossible, virtually impossible to achieve.

We don;t ask for firm dates, firm commitments and guarantees but on the whole most would be happy with a status update like "We are around this phase, we had some unexpected issues to solve, this will delay it - how much we don;t know yet but we will keep you informed - or something like the current client will be used for the remaining lifespan o the game but ... [enter spin control] :P

The longer there is no information and dodging bullets, the more likely it is someone will react in a bad way- Part of the comments are unjustified, not to be condoned but very much self inflicted by BB as well. Hence grace and understanding imo are a bridge too far. As are some of the comments

limalhadeferro
14.03.21, 13:41
what is the planned schedule? because if we are all totally honest with ourselves (rehtorical comments) there are fewer and fewer people each day nd probably hour, that believe the planned schedule to be the same as the current published schedule.

the theoretical timeline as presented before the change from flash, was that the unity platform would be up and running for this years easter event, meaning this in-between platform would go away and everyone would be able to play on the new platform.
but like you said, no one is really expecting bb to deliver that, especially since bb has missed every single deadline set by themselves so far :D

qawpaw
16.03.21, 10:51
should`t unity be online now, and the easter event with it or is it moved to next month or next year

Qualan
17.03.21, 14:20
Unity Test-Server: You will soon be able to take a first look at the Unity version yourself. We are currently planning to give you access to the test server within the next 2-3 weeks.

Unity Live-Server: Easter is just around the corner and since we don't want to interrupt the annual Easter event for an extra deployment, we won't roll out the Unity version until May. This gives us more time to test and you an undisturbed Easter event.

Qualan
17.03.21, 14:21
probably not a bad change, at least it is communication on the timeline and sight on a test server somewhere during easter event which should give us all a better look/feel on status and how realistic that may timeline might be )

BB_Trafffer
17.03.21, 14:25
Hello everyone!

Please check the update here (https://forum.thesettlersonline.com/threads/38137-Roadmap-Change-Unity-Version).

Qualan
17.03.21, 15:29
yea i r lazy, so no link added :P

General_hux
17.03.21, 20:30
low and behold :D

BB_Trafffer
30.04.21, 12:25
The Unity Test Server is finally here!

Please check all the details here. (https://forum.thesettlersonline.com/threads/38195)