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Star coins = xpQuote:
Originally Posted by Xibor
really?Quote:
Originally Posted by LORD_VV
What is point of lvl 75 without star coins, why i should go on lvl 75 if is nothing there?
BB can't allow player to still collecting star coins without new reward on level 75, because no one will go on lvl 75 because is nothing there. now at least on lvl 75 we will again be able to collect star coin.
not too fussed with star coins, but i would like to keep the assassin and arrow's buff and its my source of ft adv. So hopefully there will be some alternative.
Easy sollution.. Make them a possible drop in LT-advs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kriegor
they already drop in MSE advs... You just have to do tons of SE, hope MSE drops out of one lol
I know they do, but that's no easy sollution for the masses.Quote:
Originally Posted by jollyfog2012
As far as RoA, Assasin etc change them to purchasable with beans or stalks, the loss of the 100 gems could be added to the weekly login if your 50+
Second time you use this, but i dont think this is a problem at all. We already have mechanism for level restriction. Just put those lvl75 sc rewards for lvl75 restriction and you are good to go. Now you got the level 75 goal, and you can gain sc on the way up. Not that i agree with it, i just made it known as possibility.Quote:
Originally Posted by corona88
Or get new sc, blueish ones at level 75, and have quest that will change all your remaining sc into bsc after you collect xy bsc. There ya go, limit on day one lvl75 buyout.
Or imagine other solution that flies your boat.
Srsly, this is designer's work. And if (s)he can't come up with solution to such elementary problems, then no wonder we have silly system rolling out there.
Right and they will give all new players 6 gempits as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bluesavanah
Level 50 buffs should not work on Ali Baba adventures in the first place. (Maybe they don't, I haven't checked.) Level 75 should come with its own buffs. That should give enough motivation to work for it even with the possibility of getting SC from somewhere else.
Did you wait until star coins were introduced before gaining the experience to get to level 50?Quote:
Originally Posted by corona88
I know many, possibly even a majority, of level 50 players got there before star coins were even hinted at.
Surely the same applies to level 75; people will get there without known rewards simply for the kudos... maybe, like level 50 there will be 7k plus worth of gem quests awaiting us or maybe BB will design some other surprise.
first player want more levels. now after bb add more level they want keep star coins.
they don't think what will be. just care what is now.
if bb allow us to keep star coins they will complain on amount xp for next level, because they will choose star coins not xp.
Depends on how BB implements it. There could be several possibilities:Quote:
Originally Posted by corona88
- existing adventures (minus FT) give star coins, new adventures (arabian nights + whatever comes after level 50) give XP to level 50+ players
- adventures give both XP and SC in loot - of which there can be two or more versions: all adventures give SC vs. select adventures give SC
- adventures give SC and levels can be bought with SC in the epic market - IMO unlikely to happen because BB would have to implement an additional way of levelling up
- adventures either give SC or XP: player's choice - IMO just as unlikely to happen because that would require to implement a whole new way of giving out loot - in addition to the already existing one because it would only affect level 50+ players
I don't think there would be many complaints if BB went with one of the first two choices (the old adventures give too little XP to be used to levelling past 50) but even if BB chose one of the other two ways: TSO is a game of economy, so if someone chooses to get star coins instead of XP, it's on them, not BB.
Not correct. SA can give me 400-500K xp per day. also BK and nords giving very good xp (200-300K per day).Quote:
Originally Posted by FishSmell
also what for player they don't want/need star coins? you can spend new units very fast and what after that? i will not be able to play BK/sa/ nords to get some additional xp per day?
you can't add all new units and buildings on lvl 50, what will be after lvl 50 if we unlock everything on lvl 50?
As it stands once you've bought the extra MG and the Island deeds, beans and stalks are fairly useless again and they are one of the drops from Ali Baba adventures. I didn't mention a price and never mentioned altering the cool downs on purchases. As fair as the weekly login for 50+ going up to 200 gems it really wouldn't be that different from the situation at the moment, I'm going to take a wild guess and say most people still playing past 50 will be gaining more than 60,000 xp per week, they could even have a little meter to make sure you did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dorotheus
As of last update on testserver the mini-quests Panda something and the tikki takka one both now give experience and Star Coins... 75 the Panda one and 150 the tikki takka one. Also i noticed a couple other quests on main chain giving both experience and star coins... if those are enough i don't know because the mini quests don't have a final price yet, although i've seen on test forum they now are drops on normal FT adventures. if 100% or not i don't know.
Yeah tried em too. Seems like a planned change or a test from BB side.
Some seem to assume we can have star coin or exp at level 50 but not both. Why cant we have both? Of course lvl 75 might need some new and amazing reward too. But that a good thing. Lets have more stuff! Not just re issue what is already.
Hahaha I am so not going to start doing 10 SAs a day! :) I'd go mad, I think, if I had to. The most adv I did in a day was 5 RB during some event.Quote:
Originally Posted by corona88
I don't really need star coins, just pointing it out that it would be doable, if BB wanted to do it, to keep them with the new level cap.
I always found the worst part about doing an RB fest was touting the lootspots in Trade chat and waiting for the looters to get their kills.Quote:
Originally Posted by FishSmell
My plan for the 50 to 56 stretch therefore is to drop a 7 day prem with a HLT rtf, crunch SA repeatedly and just ignore trying to sell the lootspots (i.e. finish them as solo adventures). The 600 or 800gc for the lootspot is outweighed by a little extra speed and easier (solo) blocks. After those 7 days, likely level 54 or close to that, I will probably take a break.
I rather like the idea of keeping star coins along with new xp, though figured BB would lower the drop rate accordingly.
Personally, I would have opened star coins to everyone (level 17 upwards) and added something like a 10% chance of them dropping as a bonus in every adventure.
They should keep the star coins after lvl50, so in the loot you get xp and star coins... the XP needed to level up after lvl 50 is huge, and the new units (enemies) are very hard.
And for the players who are new and aren't lvl 50 is like you running a marathon and suddenly someone puts the finish line so far away...
Huh. That's an idea. Maybe I should start practising SA. I doubt I'll do that on the first day of the new update but maybe I'll do a few premium days like that. First I'll see how it is working out for others. :o)Quote:
Originally Posted by Tripi
I really don't understand some people. Star Coins are a replacement for XP when you are at max level. When max level is increased you can't make new star coins as you will be gaining levels. Giving free star coins means getting double xp, which doesn't sound realistic or fair. Maybe we can buy catapults and the other instants with gems or beans instead? I would say transfer the leftover star coins back into XP and give everyone who got star coins a small boost towards 75.
I don't think many old players would care if everyone would now get both xp and star coins as long as there would be a way to get them. Seems that the mini quests will be the solution from BB side.
not important what is good for me or you. i don't play SA but some players play. i just want to show you amount of xp for adventures is good, not bad as you saidQuote:
Originally Posted by FishSmell
because they don't care for anything else only for himself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mystic
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keeping star coins will be worst bb mistake. when bb realize this, will be already too late. of course players don't want say that. similar like gems for friend. players support even if this is bad. they support only because they will have advantage
Integration of new features
I like this idea:
2: Star coins and Epic Menu items
With XP coming back into play after Lv.50, we are currently no longer able to get star coins. Most people want to continue to have access to the powerful items available only with star coins. I suggest adding a new building, the "Star Coin Mint", available at Lv.50. This would give players the option to be able to continue producing star coins from the XP generated since their last level-up. It also adds an interesting strategic twist, make star coins or save for the next level-up.
Also, as has been said on the tsotesting forum elsewhere, star coins was the motivation for getting to level 50 for plenty of us. It seems sad to me, that they will be completely taken away. People already lose motivation to play this game around level 35. Is level 49 to be the new level 35?
Sounds like a good idea. Not that the star coins for me has been a big motivation. The buffs are nice yes- but I can do without. My biggest problem has been,- both before level 50 and now to have something to do. Quests and adventures I have not already done 10 times or more.
This might be solved when the new stuff comes. - Not really sure it has, as it seems like the new adventures are so hard that I can only afford to do one every month or so. This is one of the arguments for keeping the star coins,- that we need the buffs to be able to do the new adventures.
I would prefer that they balance things better and do without the star-coins. The setup as it is now on test is not going to make me want to go on playing, I will be bored waiting to have enough resources to make the elites and waiting for the troops to be made. Star coin buffs is like a drop in the ocean solving that problem.
Looks like this has been covered in a new Dev Diary
Check the info here
Why all the fuss about star coins? have players become so self dependant on them for kills, or for purchasing premium days? Just wondering which.
Personally I rarely use the weapons, other than an assassin at the end of a fast db, roa for a ls, or a catapult if a block is going wrong. However, I like many, can remember the days when we didn't have them at all and will just accept going back to the losses. No great shakes, just a few 0's and 1's more to replace - they aren't real troops after all.
If it is for the premium days them maybe it is time to save up some pennies and buy yourself some gems. That is after all what BB is hoping players will do.
The people who should really be on here commenting about the loss of star coins are those who aren't yet level 50. Those of us who were level 50 when star coins came in will doubtless have a stock of them anyway - I have seen figures such as 40 to 50k star coins mentioned on global. As suggested earlier in the thread, making current level 50 weapons unable to function on Ali-Baba adventures at least levels that part of the playing field somewhat.
As always, the changes will come, we will adapt to them and forward we will go. Look forward not backwards, a far better way to travel.
There are always players that cant get gems other ways so weekly epic shop gems and premium means a lot to them. For the attack buffs, they save a lot of time and troops in the tailor adventures which is important for people with low pop cap. One catapult and assassin can save 400-600 and when lootspot swapping is done with these nukes you save around 30 min of travel time which again matters when running on a limited premium.Quote:
Originally Posted by lordloocan
And lastly like you said they have game more flexible, arrows or assassin to lootspot camp if you happen to be in rush or something comes up and you have to leave. Catapult to a blocking camp which is about to fail could potentially save you several hours if it would mean you lose a bunch of cavalry or elites.
Much like yourself, I rarely use nukes except for lootspotting on FT. I still have about 20 of the old and more useful weak point potion, 40 ranged support and an adequate stockpile of star coins.Quote:
Originally Posted by lordloocan
I do like the one-day-prem tokens though and can see them being even more useful for Arabian Nights, especially if we are only playing one per week or so... in those cases, a one-day token is nicer than a seven-day one.
With star coins in the loot of Arab-ventures (undecided on acronym there... AB or AN or ALIs or BABAs - "Arab-ventures" maybe a bit long to type in Trade Chat) it may be steering some players to aim for one a week and see if the loot covers the one-day prem plus the gem bundle.
As you say, we should just wait and see, adapt and evolve depending on how many star coins appear in quests, buff advs and arabs.
Yes I get all that Mannerheim, but the lack of star coins is merely the same as we had before they were introduced. Seems folks just want the game easier and easier, premium time, instant kills, mmas etc. Maybe bb should just give everyone a few years free premium?
No, with the jokes you still don't seem to get the point. They do not make the game much easier but more convenient and you still have to play the game to get the items in the first place. To put it better context you need to play one RB just to get one assassin, to get one small catapult you need to do two. Repeat it few times and you have few items in reserve and can do some bigger adv a bit faster with small pop cap and in smaller session. Making the game less flexible after years of course matters to people.Quote:
Originally Posted by lordloocan
Ah well, what will be will be, BB will decide no matter how much folks mutter and moan on the forum anyway. Hilarious part is we will all need to do one heck of a lot od RB,BK SA, Nords and Ft's just to get the 1st of the new troops. So not a lot has really changed other than the demise of star coins.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mannerheim