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And then, when they still don't comply, what then?Quote:
Originally Posted by Scrooge
Honestly, some of the infractions we have to deal with don't need warning, they're obvious, and if you'd bother to read the terms of this service when you signed up, perhaps we'd all have an easier time of it.
oh please - have you actually tried to read and understand the whole terms and conditions?? Can you really really expect everyone to read them. No of course you can't - that's why you need MODs.Quote:
Originally Posted by MOD_Nogbad
The point in my case was that I didn't get a warning at all - which is not what some here have said MODs should do (except in exceptional circumstances). This is not me having a go at all MODs and all the decisions they make - just about the decision that was made against me and up to now not one person has said "yeah sorry that was wrong we should have....blah blah" or even "thanks for that we'll make a note of it".
When things go wrong what is essential is that people come here and tell you about it and you should perhaps give some weight to what you are being told rather than argue the toss about it.
What then? well in my opinion... Reoccurring transgressions of the same type usually lead to harder punishments and / or lockouts.Quote:
Originally Posted by MOD_Nogbad
And as far as obvious transgressions goes it's all opinions and they can differ.
Yet there has been times when i have been muted, and thus i have accepted that i were mistaken. The times i have been confused as to why i had to hammer away at MOD's for an explanation as to why and to understand what it was they found offensive.
You see, were more than a flock of mindless sheep.
Many of us take note of what moderators or BB staff react on and try to adjust beforehand. Given a warning or explanation publicly don't just inform the transgressor but the community as a whole and are far more likely to have effect than multitudes of ban's or mutes.
And as a personal note and reply: You have no idea whether i read or didn't read the terms, but you seem to have a point of view of general players being mindless and ignorant
I wholeheartedly agree Nail - Most of the time you just get a MOD with an attitude rather than a straight up answer.
Dont even bother trying to enlighten them about what you feel went wrong in the whole situation, because it's a one way street in their world (for a better part).
I even tried telling a certain someone how i did wrong etc and STILL i were met with contempt and the standard no-answer BS (as an experiment)
MOD's are not ment to be machines, you are humans with opinions as all the rest of us! Act like it..
(I apologize for my generalization of all MOD's here, i know full well which ones act like proper moderators, Almeer for example)
This has become a discussion about the way moderation is handled... And if you had read the rules (as you should have done no questions asked) you would know that we ask people to contact me or BB_Ravel about this in private.
I wrote the rules myself based on what had already been used in other Ubisoft forums. I have experience in writing rules like this and I've tried to make them as easy as possible to understand (not just to understand how the rule works, but also understand the necessity of the rule itself). If you think the rules are hard, long, boring to read... just try and imagine how hard it can be sometimes to get all the players on the chat to comply with them? Have you tied to put yourself in the shoes of a MOD?
This is my challenge to you: read the rules (a couple of times if possible). Go into the game and watch the global chat for 30/45 minutes. Count down the number of times the rules are broken during your stay, and then think of the work this would mean if you were a MOD.
Closing this thread. Please contact me if you think the rules need to be adjusted/changed/made easier to understand in any way, or if you have things you want to talk about concerning the moderation. I would be more than happy to have a constructive discussion about these topics with anyone.
Thank you,
BB_Azariel