You should take your own advice and learn to read. I said a SHORT BK.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhylian
http://i.imgur.com/sGDSoNQ.jpg
I used this a lot at your level to generate cash.
ignore typo at bottom should read X3 to DC2
My apologies about star coins but you could get ls to use instead of suiciding cavalry, no idea if that works out better.
Uh, sorry ... nice prices you got on Newfoundland.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishslice
DB sells at around 1800-2500 coins on Northisle, the loot is worse than Roaring Bull (which also drops Witch Tower!) and the latter has significantly lower troop losses as well.
The Star Buffs are limited, but highly useful. On Northisle, a gifted Star Buff sells at 2000+ coins, so in fact, you'd be investing around 4000 coins into the adventure by using 2 Star Buffs, which you can only do once per 2 days.
On the other hand, you could just do an RB, you lose about 300R less, you lose about 500C less, you lose about 4k coins less ... and get the same reward.
Yeah, no balance problems here anywhere.
One might reasonably argue that RB should be changed to "clear all the camps" to be in line with DB on losses, though: It's just too cheesy as it currently stands.
How are you doing it then? Using only recruits?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhylian
If you have Elites and are losing 1k+R, you're doing something seriously wrong.
Here's how I did BK with MMA, not even cannons needed:
Left:
Block with 61S 128C
Block with 10R 95E
Attack boss with 111R 109E (max loss: 111R)
Bottom Sector:
Block with 10R 95E
Attack boss with 111R 109E (max loss: 111R)
Left castle:
Block with 140C 20E
Attack boss with 113R 17S 90E (max loss: 113R 17S, often not a single S)
Upper Sector:
Attack boss with 111R 109E (max loss: 111R)
Upper right Sector:
Attack boss with 100R 120X (max loss: 80R or so)
Castle Sector:
Attack camp1 with 90R 50C 80X (max loss: 80R or so)
Suicide 100c camp2 with MMA+1R, wait 2h (unless you have 2x MMA)
Attack camp2 with 10R 140C (max loss: 10C if the MMA didn't take down all C)
Attack camp3 with 90R 50C 80X (max loss: 80R or so)
Attack camp4 with 90R 10C 120X (max loss: 80'ish or so)
Attack castle with 31S 189E (max loss: 31S)
Total loss:
750-ish R, 48S.
You can avoid the sacrifice of 31S by swapping to 90R on the castle, then Recruit losses go into 840.
The run clears the entire adventure map and gives 28200'ish XP.
Anyhow, this is not a discussion of BK but about the fact that some adventures are highly undesirable.
Wow,Quote:
Originally Posted by Narcil
BK awarded 150 Cannons in a slot, so if you "doubleswapped" and got 100% Cannon rewards, you'd get 900 Cannons per adventure.
3 weeks have 21 days, so you did a minimum of 3 adventures per day.
Since you got ~20DC, which are closer to 4% drop chance, let's assume it was 5%, you did a statistical equivalence of 400 BK including LS in 3 weeks, which is around 20 adventures/LS per day.
I don't know, I thought I'm somewhere on the top of the food pyramid already, but I typically don't do more than 8 adv/LS per day - and that's on weekends, as during the week, I tend to have RL stuff to do. So, the same achievement would have taken me roughly 2 months. Now I feel like a complete noob, since you claim that it doesn't take very long.
As a side note:
I got 3 DC from lv42-lv50, and I got a total of 7 DC ever. Getting 7 DC *per week* is either extremely lucky or you're simply exaggerating to make a point.
Yeah, I know there's people who did 3 Fairytales a day, earning them roughly 200k coins a day but that's somewhere outside the norm.
I was glad to earn roughly 100k coins per month before the combat update.
Now, I earn roughly 100k per week.
Loot hasn't become worse. The adventures which are valuable have changed.
Witty comment: Bandit Nest costs ~200 Fragments and has a chance to earn a value (based on Northisle prices) of up to 28,000 coins [premium] with an average profit somewhere around 5000. It's the "New Pirates" for highlevels. Oh, and by the way - you don't need even cannons the way I do it.
thats 65k in 3 weeks. i did the same for a week and only gained 5k cannon. 9 DC. seems ive been just generally unlucky with cannon drops then. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Narcil
@Sharpielein. I can't and therefore don't block. Your list relies on blocks. Btw I also wrote in this thread I don't and can't block
DB ls sells quite happily at 2500-3000 on Northisle, loot being worse is subjective without a loot table with accurate percentages to analyse... though you do have a point about the troop loss... I'll give you that!Quote:
Originally Posted by Sharpielein
Key point being: "Why should you do DB when you can just do RB instead?"Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozzymandeus
Not like you can do DB in 30 minutes including travel time, either.
Without the aforementioned loot tables it is impossible to give an answer to that in terms of 'efficiency'. For all we know the drop chance for the Witch Tower could be significantly higher enough to warrant the extra troop cost if extra population is what you require most.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sharpielein
Without that information, I can only answer that question by saying that I'd wager that many of the folks I see complaining about the game being "stale", "boring" and/or "needing new content" are the same folks that spam the same adventures over and over again, because they are the only ones "worth doing".
So, my answer to that question could be summed up with one word: variety
RB in 15 mins from landing using only fast gens... hmmm... you got a guide for that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sharpielein
I'm curious to see how much that pushes the losses up.
@Ozzymandeus :https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...er=false&gid=5
That's where I got my new stats for the epic buildings from as well.
http://forum.thesettlersonline.com/t...Adventure-Loot