[Guide] Mimori's Adventure

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Originally Posted by jupitero

Lisztes, I didn't understand what u meant about killing camp 7 and 16 and 15 camps.

You can get to G3 place by killing camps in this order 1,3,5,14,15.

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This is what I said. It was a critic, I wrote how he/she does it, and then wrote my advices.

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Originally Posted by jupitero

Then kill camp 10

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Why? No need to kill camp 10, its a leader in a sector where there aren't other camps. You kill camp 17, 22, 21, 25, 28 from the sector of camp (14-15-16).

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Originally Posted by jupitero

Need to check that if it's possible to skip camp 10 when doing fast version.

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It's possible when you clear the above mentioned sector.

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Originally Posted by jupitero

28f, better garrison setup is 2R 149S 99E, you save 228Recruits and you lose only 9soldiers more.
You can do that with only 1 veteran.

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Seriously guys? Killing 230R instead of 10 or 20 more soldier?
You can kill the 2 nightspawn with 250S [160S losses] or 150S 100ES [150S losses] in only one attack. (and if you have cannoniers: 80M 170K [80M losses]).

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This is what I said. It was a critic, I wrote how he/she does it, and then wrote my advices.

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I just didn't understand ur english. lol

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Why? No need to kill camp 10, its a leader in a sector where there aren't other camps. You kill camp 17, 22, 21, 25, 28 from the sector of camp (14-15-16).

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I answered to that: Need to check that if it's possible to skip camp 10 when doing fast version. <-- I Didn't tested it yet.

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28f, better garrison setup is 2R 149S 99E, you save 228Recruits and you lose only 9soldiers more.
You can do that with only 1 veteran.

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Seriously guys? Killing 230R instead of 10 or 20 more soldier?
You can kill the 2 nightspawn with 250S [160S losses] or 150S 100ES [150S losses] in only one attack. (and if you have cannoniers: 80M 170K [80M losses]).

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So that's what i said 2R 149S 99E with only 1 attack. and that was intended to Mimori.

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Seriously guys? Killing 230R instead of 10 or 20 more soldier?

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sarcasm? I don't know what you meant by saying this? :S Trying to be funny guy?

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Originally Posted by Lisztes

???

First of all:

You kill camp 7, and then you kill camp 16 and 15, instead of killing camp 14 and then camp 15 only. And with that you don't even need to kill camp 10.

And then: you kill camp 18, 19, 20, instead of killing camp 27 for example? From the sector of camp 27 you can kill camp 10 in the west.

Camp 27 (3142xp, G1: 160B, V: 87R 163XB [160B, 86R]

Much cheaper and camp 27 has a really great xp.

Check out my settings pls

http://forum.thesettlersonline.com/t...ventures/page4

#36 and #38 replies.

It will help you I guess. And yes, I use longblocks and you don't but the other settings and tactics might be helpful.

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thank you for the input..
I didn't think about going for camp 14 and 15.. and then skip camp 7 & 10, will change my guide when i got time :)

camp 18 was killed to get to camp 10 (G3) , camp 19, 20 was to get to green camp 10¨.
Camp 27 sounds like a good camp to kill, since it give that many xp :)

I have updated The Black Knights guide

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Originally Posted by Mimori

The Black Knights
3 player adventure

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/535...ackknights.jpg

http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/4...ackknights.jpg

A-Version
Units Needed: 1392R 120C 20M 100S 155A
Units Lost: 1392R 16M

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/902...knightloot.jpg

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you shouldn't make any guide coz truly your an upper noob .
for everyone want to use this guide double check the general positions

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Originally Posted by keko4321

you shouldn't make any guide coz truly your an upper noob .
for everyone want to use this guide double check the general positions

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Maybe you should do a guide then? http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/35.gif

Keko4321 mate, have a question for you... If you dont like why you dont show us your guide?

Mimori... keep doing the great job!!!!

no i won't make a guide , but when i make one i'll double check it before i upload it .
there's a mistake in the guide that could cost you 140 xbowman , so how come he have done great job ???

haven't you seen all the guides that he prepared? he is doing is best... mistakes are just mistakes... you leave a note to him and that it like everyone does!! dont make comments like you did!

A little bit of respect for the hours that people like Mimori spend doing the guides and updating.

Great Mimori, thanks!

A guide is just a guide. You don't need to follow it blindly, you can still use your own simulator before sending troops. Sometimes I find a better solution and when i don't forget I post it here :) Some of the better solutions are just created by an different playing style.
One of the different playing style solution is for instance the first attack at the tower in The Witch of the Swamp. Mimori guide is stating to send 200r. I always choose the option of 15R,132Bowmen.. More expenisve in brew and less expensive in settlers. My solution takes longer to recruit, the guide solution is easier as you are getting way more swords then bows in the same time.

Hi. I finally managed to block camp5 in island of the Pirates here is my solution:

http://s14.directupload.net/images/120731/huhc7puf.jpg


This solution is if can place general closer, sometimes u can smetimes u cant:

http://s1.directupload.net/images/120730/3znpty27.jpg

Important notice i accedently wrote in wrong attack order in picture above it should be Normal gen G3 to camp5
then right after attack camp6 with general at G2!

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Originally Posted by keko4321

you shouldn't make any guide coz truly your an upper noob .
for everyone want to use this guide double check the general positions

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Thank you... it is always good with some positive comments :)
but im not sure why i deserve such kind words from you..


about the general positions.. what is the problem with that.. ?
you can see the path the general is taking on the map.. so if your general is taking another path, then it could be
your positioning that was wrong...

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Originally Posted by keko4321

no i won't make a guide , but when i make one i'll double check it before i upload it .
there's a mistake in the guide that could cost you 140 xbowman , so how come he have done great job ???

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And thanks for the good description of the problem. if more people would start descriping the problems this good.. It would really make my
job alot easier.

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Originally Posted by Lazarus163

Hi. I finally managed to block camp5 in island of the Pirates here is my solution:

http://s14.directupload.net/images/120731/huhc7puf.jpg

Important notice i accedently wrote in wrong attack order in picture above it should be Normal gen G3 to camp5
then right after attack camp6 with general at G2!

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Thank you, i have added the block to my guide :)

Hi Mimori , just wanted to say thanks and let you know about something i noticed on The Black Knights Guide it says you need 100S but actually you need 132S if you read the Bitmpa it shows 100S at the bottom but 132S further up.

Without your guides my adventures would have gone a different way thanks for all your efforts and note that is appreciated by me


Sanddollar

Thanks for all the great guides Mimori!

Just a question to you and everyone else: I see there is no guides for Sons of the Veld and Secluded Experiments, because noone ever do them. So basicly they are useless? Ive tried selling them, but noone wants them, even when they are given to the first that answears for free, hehe.... So i should just delete them, or save for high end gaming perhaps, any thoughts?

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Originally Posted by Xandathrii

Just a question to you and everyone else: I see there is no guides for Sons of the Veld

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Originally Posted by Sanddollar

Hi Mimori , just wanted to say thanks and let you know about something i noticed on The Black Knights Guide it says you need 100S but actually you need 132S if you read the Bitmpa it shows 100S at the bottom but 132S further up.

Without your guides my adventures would have gone a different way thanks for all your efforts and note that is appreciated by me


Sanddollar

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Thank you.

I noticed the wrong number yesterday, when i did the adventure, so have fixed it.
I have also move the G2 position a bit, since i couldn't place the general at the same spot as the last time i did it :)


Also added another block to the Island of Pirates guide and changed the settings for T1 and camp 8

- Mimori

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Originally Posted by Xandathrii

Thanks for all the great guides Mimori!

Just a question to you and everyone else: I see there is no guides for Sons of the Veld and Secluded Experiments, because noone ever do them. So basicly they are useless? Ive tried selling them, but noone wants them, even when they are given to the first that answears for free, hehe.... So i should just delete them, or save for high end gaming perhaps, any thoughts?

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The reason why i haven't made the guides yet is that i have been busy making all the other guides first, and then the work with getting them to work with the new pathfinding.
Also it doesn't seem like that many people are doing the adventures because of the high losses.
They also have alot of camps, so that is alot of calculations i need to do, and for the adventures to be worth doing, they also need many blocks.
I will be looking at Sons of the veld and secluded experiments when i have updated my other maps and added Block tactics to more of them.

You can look at the tactic Tage is linking to, it actually looks good, if you like blocking :)

How does this work? Camp's 1,2 and 3 have to be fought? (traitors)
I don't quit understand the tactical map >.<

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Originally Posted by Mimori

The Nords
2 player adventure

A-Version
Units needed: 477R 120C 191S 50M 90LB 248A (you can use the A instead of the LB)
units lost: 471R 48M

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Nice guide, Mimori, but why do you attack camp 14? You can go directly to camp 15 without having to attack camp 14. I did it allready several times, and my general was never intercepted by camp 14.

Greetings,

hi,

i´ve seen your pretty tactical map. if you want to share your maps with more users (german and english) then upload it to www.dso-karten.de

hope to see you on dso-karten.de - you´re very welcome

regards dava aka the_ball_master

Hi.

First of all, thanks for the help with these guides Mimori.
I want to ask you if in the new pathfinding "outlaws", isn't possible to block the last camp before the leaders?
Thanks.

hey Mimori, love you guilds :)
Just to note thou for "Island of the Pirates" using your "Block - A/R - Version" the "need" is wrong. You will need 253 Soilders for Block 2 to work. Maybe you would like to update. Keep up the good work. :)

Hi,
Camp 14, the chart says send 48 cannon and 48r for wave 1. Then is show a loss of recruits.
Something tells me the 48 cannon is a typo here.
Yes?

For the adventure "Roaring Bull" it says I will need 2366R, 80M, 190S, 196ES (doing the e-version), to complete the adventure entirely. Is this in addition to what I already lose in the fast version? Or is it total losses?

Love the guides, BTW. :)
You should probably check out cempire.org and compare notes so you can make them even better. :D

Great guides Mimori

Theres a great block in the mid section to clear it out and maximise xp - see attached picture with Leader camp about to be destroyed.
It does use cannons though - setup as below (using your numbers)....
Camp R S C K Totals
22 26 174 200
21 1 37 160 198
19 123 10 133
20 1 16 183 200
23 80 56 110 246

http://imageshack.us/a/img6/2779/the...erhood5way.png

Ahhh, these lovable 4-way blocks :)

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Originally Posted by fishslice

23 80 56 110 246

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I guess that should be 84 (not 80)?

Either way, I would change that main attack a little:
from 84R 56S 110K (84R 38S - 84R 51S - 84R 56S)
to 72R 51S 127K (72R 44S - 72R 49S - 72R 51S).

It would thus be over in 2 rounds, rather than 3, saving both troops and 10 seconds of nervousness. :)

Cheers Tage - that's a little less nervousness now ;)

Be careful attacking right hand 9's from G6 as T8 intercepts and you will loose cav, safer to attack right hand 9's from right side not G6

Hi,
great guides but i have seen a difference in "old Friends"
I beaten camp 8 in a single wave with 50R 60C 60S and 80Xbows with only 50R and 42S loss

if someone already pointed this out sorry but havent seen it ...

maybe it was luck or something but used simulator before and it also gave approx values

Need advice on failed RB block:

My block failed and i destroyed blocking camp and not the one i wanted to destroy...
settlersonlinetools.com/en/combat_simulator/#/groupId=rasenderbulle/general=1/milizen=250/kataphrakt=100/lanzenreiter=90
need solution on how to destroy camp 30 when only camp 27 is left in RB?


And on this map its camp 7 and 8 http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/8248/rbfullmaprr.png
And camp 7 is destroyed here and i cant do block on this camp


dso-karten.de/images/articles-pics/1083_1345125342.jpg

Hi, it's me again with some modifications :-D
This time its The island of the pirates

Did some different attacks on camps 8 and 10, both can be killed with a single attack (using veteran).
camp 8: 20R 20S 200C (losses: 10R 11Cav)
camp 10: 225R 25S (losses: 148R)

this reduces a need for two attack waves completely (block on camp 9 still stands as it is) and if you are willing to lose 10-15 cav a lot less suicide recruits
plus it reduces a need for BHG in last attack and minimizes risk of bad attack due to lag, and shortens the adventure time.
You can practically do the whole adventure with just two generals, veteran and a normal general for blocks
My total losses were 384R 11Cav

It would be nice if someone else tested this, this is first time i tried this setup

Camp 20 90r, 160s, (Losses 90r, ) 20r saved!!!

i found this works completely by mistake...

Hello I am just beginning these adventures and atm doing Horseback. I have prepared some of the army but when they arrived, they begin on the opposite side of the island?

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Originally Posted by Gharth

Hello I am just beginning these adventures and atm doing Horseback. I have prepared some of the army but when they arrived, they begin on the opposite side of the island?

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Hey Gharth, you should be able to transfer your general to the other side of the island, your general wont be attacked when transferring, only intercepted when attacking

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Originally Posted by peck_ed

Hey Gharth, you should be able to transfer your general to the other side of the island, your general wont be attacked when transferring, only intercepted when attacking

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Ahaa, cheers, much appreciated!

Hi, the Victor The Vicious link is broken, any chance of fixing it please?

Cheers
Bob

Your map is not loading. :-)

Have used ur map for VtV many times.. now the link dont work no more.. Is there a new map with a new link somewhere.. ???