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13.04.12 21:57
NicePuppy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Killste

Outlaws

Adventure Infos:
Player Level: 36+
Difficulty: 4/10
Number of Players: 1
Duration: 4 days
Where to get?: Adventure seek with explorer or ?

http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/2...awsmission.jpg

http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/7...ardchances.jpg

http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/9923/outlawsmap.jpg

Garrison Settings with normal method without block:
Units need: ?
Units lost max: ?

Garrison Settings with block method:
Units need: ?
Units lost: ?

Tactical map
http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/8249/aaaye.jpg

This is Beta Version about Outlaws maps. I try to fix pictures and map end of the week. Map has not yet garrison positions to block 4A and 4B.
All blocks are extreme difficult
Use block general normal generals and atack general (that atack leader camp) battle hardened general

I tried to atack camp 5 with 2 waves while blocking camp 5A and 5B but is extreme risky so I will delete it in complete version.
There is possible to block camp 5B and atack with 2 waves to camp 5 but its not worth anymore , because you loose soldiers and you need 2 battle hardened generals.

Did I misunderstood this blocking method? sacrificing lots of cavalries and Soldiers?
13.04.12 22:20
Saraptheold

Quote:

Originally Posted by EvilDog

Did I misunderstood this blocking method? sacrificing lots of cavalries and Soldiers?

Not necessarily sacrifising them. If the attack general can win the fight at the bandits leader camp before the block generals battle is finished, you get all units following the block general back. This means that you can save a huge amount of units......if you can time the attacks just right.
14.04.12 10:18
NicePuppy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saraptheold

Not necessarily sacrifising them. If the attack general can win the fight at the bandits leader camp before the block generals battle is finished, you get all units following the block general back. This means that you can save a huge amount of units......if you can time the attacks just right.

Cool Now I get it thank you :)
14.04.12 14:49
Saraptheold

But it still is very difficult. If your timing is a little bit wrong you will loose troops. If your blocking general has a to strong or to weak army, you will loose troops. If your attack general takes to long to win or if he looses you will loose troops. Sometimes it's just better to use recruit spamming or a combination of blocking and spamming.
14.04.12 16:08
Onberijkbaar

Hey i was checking out your horseback adventure

and i don't quite see how you can only lose 36R maximum at camp 5

They have 90 Nomads and 90 Composite Bowman
And you are attacking them with 36R/1S/163LB

First of all there is no first strike and no last strike so there will be full damage from both sides

Nomads do 10-20 dmg with 60% hit
Composite Bowman do 20-40 dmg with 80% hit

so let's assume worst case scenario

90x 10 dmg = 900dmg equals (900/40) 22 dead recruits and one of them half dead
90x 20 dmg = 1800dmg equals (1800/40) 45 dead recruits

I've assumed worst case scenario here which you know Never happens.

I'm using this:
http://www.settlersonlinetools.com/e...e=90/nomade=90

as a combat calculator, but the strange thing is that this one says just like your guide that everything should be fine :D

So my question:
Did i miss something?
Am i doing the math wrong?
I've really tried and maybe i'm just stuck in my own reasoning but i can't see what i'm doing wrong

hope you can help me

kind regards,

Onberijkbaar
14.04.12 21:12
Onberijkbaar

ah thank you very much, that combat simulator doesn't show that ;( and i've never done the adventure myself,

but this explains a lot :D,

ty,

Onberijkbaar
17.04.12 16:12
Tage
WITH THE NEW PATHING, THIS GUIDE IS NOW OBSOLETE
AN UPDATED GUIDE FOR THE NEW PATHING CAN BE FOUND HERE.
Dark Priests
Veteran General
R/S/LB version

I got my veteran general last night, and I already love him! :cool:
I tried him out killing the Dark Priest today...

And sorry Killste, I'm still going to use SidV's map as a reference here, partly due the the camp numbering, partly due to the fact that I prefer killing all camps, for maximum XP! :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by SidV

Tactical map & garrison settings (R/M/LB Version)
Units need: 500R 194C 8M 170LB
Units lost max: 484R 19C 8M
http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/8...c13rmlb.th.jpg

Note that I'm using a lot more soldiers than previously for this adventure!
Note also that this is based on solo playing.

You need at least 2 generals, one normal and one veteran.
You need to send troops 5 times.

Units needed, average: 373R 230S 249C 73LB (925 units in total)
Units needed, maximum: 386R 230S 249C 73LB (938 units in total)

Units lost, minimum: 332R 4C
Units lost, average: 371R 12C
Units lost, maximum: 386R 5S 18C

Game flow, garrison settings and losses (minimum - average - maximum):
- VETERAN - Must be a veteran general with 250 units
- NORMAL - Must be a normal (slow) general
- ANY - Can be any kind of general.
Note that, whenever a garrison consists of a mixture of recruits and soldiers:
- adding more recruits might increase casualties
- adding more soldiers won't change the outcome
http://static3.thesettlersonline.com...r/ornament.png

Move to garrison position G1:

The adventure starts with a method 2 blocking:

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/e...p5version2.png

Camp 5) 20 Thugs, 20 Guard Dogs [NORMAL: 17S (-)] {4 - 9 rounds of fighting, average 6.6}
Camp 6) 20 Thugs, 20 Guard Dogs, 20 Rangers, 1 Skunk [VETERAN: 37R 213S (27R - 32R - 37R 1S)]
1. First send your normal general from garrison A to camp 5 with 17S.
  This is optimised for maximum number of rounds, so do not change the number of units!
2. Then send your veteran general from garrison B to camp 6.
  You cannot be too fast, so send this general as soon as you can.
After this, clear the two camps to the east:

Camp 11) 60 Cultists, 20 Dark Priests [VETERAN: 10R 1S 239C (7R - 9R - 10R)]
Camp 12) 25 Cultists, 25 Shadowsneakers, 30 Fanatics, 10 Firedancers [ANY: 54R 71S (45R - 51R - 54R 1S)]

http://static3.thesettlersonline.com...r/ornament.png

Move to garrison position G2:

Camp 7) 30 Cultists, 40 Dark Priests [VETERAN: 1S 249C (-)]
Camp 8) 30 Dark Priests, 30 Shadowsneakers [ANY: 31R 31S (31R - 31R - 31R 1S)]
Camp 9) 30 Cultists, 20 Shadowsneakers, 10 Firedancers [ANY: 27R 59S (24R - 26R - 27R)]
Camp 10) 40 Cultists, 30 Dark Priests, 20 Shadowsneakers, 1 Witch [VETERAN: 61R 3S 113C 73LB (46R 4C - 58R 12C - 61R 1S 18C)]

http://static3.thesettlersonline.com...r/ornament.png

Move to garrison position G3:

Camp 13a) 30 Shadowsneakers, 50 Fanatics, 10 Firedancers [ANY: 31R (31R)]
Camp 13b) 50 Fanatics, 10 Firedancers [ANY: 171C (-)]
Camp 15) 40 Cultists, 40 Dark Priests, 40 Shadowsneakers, 1 Dark High Priest [VETERAN: 135R 115S (121R - 133R - 135R 1S)]
17.04.12 17:07
Killste

Thanks Tage, I think I will add full garrison setup to kill all camps, people like you, how want full experience point. thanks for your garrison setups :) Since Dp was my first adventure I kinda forgot to add extra camps :D
18.04.12 19:56
JasB

Bump!
19.04.12 02:19
Tage
A friend of mine decided to try out one of the newest adventures on the test server, and asked me for optimised garrison settings...
It took longer than I thought, and before I had the recommendations for her, she had already decided to cancel the adventure...
After all, the losses are huge, you only have 2½ days to finish it and the loot is crap in relation to the effort needed.
But, here it is...

Wild Mary

Adventure Info:
Player Level: 36+
Difficulty: 7/10
Number of Players: 1
Duration: 2 days 12 hours
Where to get?: Trader (shop) for 200 map fragments

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/e...yBelohnung.jpg

The only map I could find is a German one on Siedler-Vision, made by cAmou309. All credit for the map goes to him:

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/e...e-Waltraut.jpg

All camps are layed out sequentially, so there are few that can be skipped or blocked.

You need several generals, mainly due to the fact that a lot of them will be recovering after suicidal waves.
And you've only got 60 hours to kill all 22 camps...

Depending on the version below, you need to send troops some 13-20 times!

The four blocks used are all of method 2.

Four versions are presented below;
- NORMAL generals. Do not use blocks if you only have these.
- BHG - battle hardened general (at least one of them). 4 blocks used.
- VETERAN general (one of them). 4 blocks used.
- VETERAN general (one of them) with Crossbows. 4 blocks used.
Veteran or battle hardened generals are not needed for the first suicidal waves on camps that are taken in two waves.
Only for the veteran attack on camp 22 must all four waves be with veteran generals, thus also needing time for recovering between each wave.

NORMAL generals
- Units needed, average: 3440R 90S 580C 170B 129LB
- Units needed, maximum: 3513R 162S 580C 170B 129LB
- Units lost, minimum: 3220R 72S 578C 170B
- Units lost, average: 3439R 83S 578C 170B
- Units lost, maximum: 3513R 162S 578C 170B
BHG - battle hardened general
- Units needed, average: 2970R 90S 550C 170B 129LB
- Units needed, maximum: 3022R 150S 550C 170B 129LB
- Units lost, minimum: 2780R 72S 548C 170B
- Units lost, average: 2961R 83S 548C 170B
- Units lost, maximum: 3022R 150S 548C 170B
VETERAN general
- Units needed, average: 2550R 80S 470C 196LB
- Units needed, maximum: 2681R 119S 470C 196LB
- Units lost, minimum: 2319R 69S 466C
- Units lost, average: 2536R 80S 466C
- Units lost, maximum: 2681R 119S 466C
VETERAN general with Crossbows
- Units needed, average: 2250R 60S 470C 150XB
- Units needed, maximum: 2345R 100S 470C 150XB
- Units lost, minimum: 2031R 40S 466C
- Units lost, average: 2213R 56S 466C
- Units lost, maximum: 2345R 100S 466C
http://static3.thesettlersonline.com...r/ornament.png Camp 1

NORMAL general:
1) 80 thugs, 70 stone throwers [64R 3S 85C 48LB (50R - 58R - 64R 2S)]

VETERAN general:
1) 80 thugs, 70 stone throwers [56R 2S 165C 27LB (40R - 49R - 56R 1S)]

VETERAN general and Crossbows:
1) 80 thugs, 70 stone throwers [56R 2S 165C 27XB (40R - 49R - 56R 1S)]

http://static3.thesettlersonline.com...r/ornament.png Camp 2

NORMAL general:
2) 100 thugs, 70 stone throwers [100R 6S 80C 14LB (83R - 96R - 100R 5S)]

VETERAN general:
2) 100 thugs, 70 stone throwers [79R 2S 114C 55LB (58R - 69R - 79R 1S)]

VETERAN general and Crossbows:
2) 100 thugs, 70 stone throwers [79R 2S 114C 55XB (58R - 69R - 79R 1S)]

http://static3.thesettlersonline.com...r/ornament.png Camp 3 (CAN BE BLOCKED)

NORMAL general - not blocked:
3a) 80 thugs, 70 stone throwers, 30 guard dogs [30C (30C)]
3b) 79 thugs, 70 stone throwers [63R 3S 85C 49LB (48R - 57R - 63R 1S)]

NORMAL general - BLOCK (while attacking camp 4):
3) 80 thugs, 70 stone throwers, 30 guard dogs [1R 14S 185C (-)] {5 - 11 rounds of fighting, average 7.7}

http://static3.thesettlersonline.com...r/ornament.png Camp 4 (LEADER)

NORMAL general:
4a) 80 thugs, 50 rangers, 50 guard dogs [50C (50C)] {1 round of fighting}
4b) 79 thugs, 50 rangers [59R 3S 90C 48LB (46R - 54R - 59R 1S)] {2 rounds of fighting} - BHG if BLOCK on Camp 3

VETERAN general:
4) 80 thugs, 50 rangers, 50 guard dogs [145R 105S (114R - 131R - 145R)] {2 rounds of fighting}

http://static3.thesettlersonline.com...r/ornament.png Camp 5

NORMAL general:
5) 100 thugs, 70 rangers [100R 6S 80C 14LB (83R - 96R - 100R 5S)]

VETERAN general:
5) 100 thugs, 70 rangers [79R 2S 114C 55LB (58R - 69R - 79R 1S)]

VETERAN general and Crossbows:
5) 100 thugs, 70 rangers [79R 2S 114C 55XB (58R - 69R - 79R 1S)]

http://static3.thesettlersonline.com...r/ornament.png Camp 6

NORMAL general:
6a) 90 thugs, 70 rangers, 30 guard dogs [30C (30C)]
6b) 89 thugs, 70 rangers [87R 2S 85C 26LB (65R - 78R - 87R 1S)]

VETERAN general:
6a) 90 thugs, 70 rangers, 30 guard dogs [30C (30C)]
6b) 89 thugs, 70 rangers [67R 2S 140C 41LB (48R - 58R - 67R 1S)]

VETERAN general and Crossbows:
6a) 90 thugs, 70 rangers, 30 guard dogs [30C (30C)]
6b) 89 thugs, 70 rangers [66R 2S 145C 37XB (48R - 58R - 66R 1S)]

http://static3.thesettlersonline.com...r/ornament.png Camp 7 (CAN BE BLOCKED)

NORMAL general - not blocked:
7a) 100 thugs, 100 rangers [58R (58R)] or [50B (50B)]
7b) 75 thugs, 100 rangers [75R 5S 110C 10LB (59R - 71R - 75R 4S)]

NORMAL general - BLOCK (while attacking camp 8):
7) 100 thugs, 100 rangers [26S 174C (-)] {5 - 11 rounds of fighting, average 7.8}

http://static3.thesettlersonline.com...r/ornament.png Camp 8 (LEADER)

NORMAL general:
8) 80 roughnecks, 70 rangers [90R 5S 85C 20LB (71R - 85R - 90R 4S)] {3 rounds of fighting} - BHG if BLOCK on Camp 7

VETERAN general:
8) 80 roughnecks, 70 rangers [72R 2S 85C 91LB (51R - 62R - 72R 1S)] {2 rounds of fighting}

VETERAN general and Crossbows:
8) 80 roughnecks, 70 rangers [67R 2S 85C 96XB (48R - 58R - 67R 1S)] {1 round of fighting}

http://static3.thesettlersonline.com...r/ornament.png Camp 9

NORMAL general:
9a) 100 roughnecks, 50 rangers [50R (50R)] or [45B (45B)]
9b) 85 roughnecks, 50 rangers [83R 5S 62C 50LB (70R - 81R - 83R 4S)]

VETERAN general:
9) 100 roughnecks, 50 rangers [98R 2S 62C 88LB (75R - 87R - 98R 1S)]

VETERAN general and Crossbows:
9) 100 roughnecks, 50 rangers [81R 2S 63C 104LB (62R - 71R - 81R 1S)]

http://static3.thesettlersonline.com...r/ornament.png Camp 10 (CAN BE BLOCKED)

NORMAL general - not blocked:
10a) 70 roughnecks, 80 rangers, 30 guard dogs [36R (36R)]
10b) 69 roughnecks, 80 rangers [67R 5S 100C 28LB (59R - 66R - 67R 4S)]

NORMAL general - BLOCK (while attacking camp 11):
10) 70 roughnecks, 80 rangers, 30 guard dogs [5R 20S 175C (-)] {7 - 12 rounds of fighting, average 9.0}

http://static3.thesettlersonline.com...r/ornament.png Camp 11 (LEADER)

NORMAL general:
11a) 100 roughnecks, 50 rangers, 50 guard dogs [103R (103R)] {1 round of fighting}
11b) 87 roughnecks, 50 rangers [87R 6S 54C 53LB (72R - 85R - 87R 5S)] {2 rounds of fighting} - BHG if BLOCK on Camp 10

VETERAN general:
11a) 100 roughnecks, 50 rangers, 50 guard dogs [60R (60R)] {1 round of fighting}
11b) 99 roughnecks, 50 rangers [95R 2S 62C 91LB (74R - 85R - 95R 1S)] {2 rounds of fighting}

VETERAN general and Crossbows:
11a) 100 roughnecks, 50 rangers, 50 guard dogs [60R (60R)] {1 round of fighting}
11b) 99 roughnecks, 50 rangers [80R 2S 63C 105XB (61R - 71R - 80R 1S)] {2 rounds of fighting}

http://static3.thesettlersonline.com...r/ornament.png Camp 12

NORMAL general:
12a) 100 roughnecks, 100 rangers [155R 10B (155R 10B)]
12b) 45 roughnecks, 100 rangers [36R 5S 125C 32LB (28R - 35R - 36R 4S)]

VETERAN general:
12) 100 roughnecks, 100 rangers [120R 10S 108C 12LB (104R - 120R 1S - 120R 9S)]

VETERAN general and Crossbows:
12) 100 roughnecks, 100 rangers [110R 5S 110C 25XB (88R - 103R - 110R 4S)]

http://static3.thesettlersonline.com...r/ornament.png Camp 13

NORMAL general:
13a) 180 roughnecks [200R (200R)]
13b) 102 roughnecks [90R 5S 105LB (79R - 88R - 90R 4S)]

VETERAN general:
13a) 180 roughnecks [200R (200R)]
13b) 102 roughnecks [80R 3S 167LB (62R - 73R - 80R 1S)]

VETERAN general and Crossbows:
13) 180 roughnecks [140R 20S 90XB (140R 5S - 140R 12S - 140R 19S)]

http://static3.thesettlersonline.com...r/ornament.png Camp 14

NORMAL general:
14a) 100 roughnecks, 60 rangers, 40 guard dogs [135R (135R)]
14b) 70 roughnecks, 60 rangers [60R 5S 75C 60LB (51R - 59R - 60R 4S)]

VETERAN general:
14a) 100 roughnecks, 60 rangers, 40 guard dogs [48R (48R)]
14b) 99 roughnecks, 60 rangers [99R 2S 75C 74LB (75R - 89R - 99R 1S)]

VETERAN general and Crossbows:
14a) 100 roughnecks, 60 rangers, 40 guard dogs [48R (48R)]
14b) 99 roughnecks, 60 rangers [80R 2S 75C 93XB (61R - 71R - 80R 1S)]

http://static3.thesettlersonline.com...r/ornament.png Camp 15 (CAN BE BLOCKED)

NORMAL general - not blocked:
15a) 100 roughnecks, 100 guard dogs [110R (110R)]
15b) 97 roughnecks[82R 5S 113LB (70R - 80R - 82R 4S)]

NORMAL general - BLOCK (while attacking camp 16):
15) 100 roughnecks, 100 guard dogs [89S 111C (-)] {7 - 12 rounds of fighting, average 9.0}

http://static3.thesettlersonline.com...r/ornament.png Camp 16 (LEADER)

NORMAL general:
16a) 130 roughnecks, 70 rangers [50R 115B (50R 115B)] {1 round of fighting}
16b) 78 roughnecks, 70 rangers [90R 6S 55C 49LB (80R - 89R - 90R 5S)] {2 rounds of fighting} - BHG if BLOCK on Camp 15

VETERAN general:
16a) 130 roughnecks, 70 rangers [110R (110R)] {1 round of fighting}
16b) 98 roughnecks, 70 rangers [103R 5S 85C 57LB (80R - 92R - 103R 1S)] {2 rounds of fighting}

VETERAN general and Crossbows:
16) 130 roughnecks, 70 rangers [93R 22S 85C 50XB (93R 7S - 93R 14S - 93R 21S)] {2 rounds of fighting}

http://static3.thesettlersonline.com...r/ornament.png Camp 17

NORMAL general:
17a) 130 roughnecks, 50 rangers, 20 guard dogs [150R (150R)]
17b) 88 roughnecks, 50 rangers [89R 5S 63C 43LB (75R - 86R - 89R 4S)]

VETERAN general:
17a) 130 roughnecks, 50 rangers, 20 guard dogs [50R (50R)]
17b) 122 roughnecks, 50 rangers [140R 5S 62C 43LB (115R - 131R - 140R 4S)]

VETERAN general and Crossbows:
17a) 130 roughnecks, 50 rangers, 20 guard dogs [24R (24R)]
17b) 129 roughnecks, 50 rangers [134R 3S 63C 50XB (108R - 122R - 134R 1S)]

http://static3.thesettlersonline.com...r/ornament.png Camp 18

NORMAL general:
18a) 80 roughnecks, 120 rangers [150R (150R)]
18b) 34 roughnecks, 120 rangers [27R 5S 150C 18LB (20R - 26R - 27R 4S)]

VETERAN general:
18) 80 roughnecks, 120 rangers [85R 8S 150C 7LB (72R - 84R - 85R 7S)]

VETERAN general and Crossbows:
18) 80 roughnecks, 120 rangers [83R 4S 150C 13XB (66R - 78R - 83R 3S)]

http://static3.thesettlersonline.com...r/ornament.png Camp 19

NORMAL general:
19a) 200 roughnecks [200R (200R)]
19b) 126 roughnecks [150R 5S 45LB (127R - 144R - 150R 4S)]

VETERAN general:
19a) 200 roughnecks [200R (200R)]
19b) 126 roughnecks [118R 3S 129LB (97R - 110R - 118R 2S)]

VETERAN general and Crossbows:
19a) 200 roughnecks [200R (200R)]
19b) 126 roughnecks [101R 1S 148XB (78R - 90R - 101R)]

http://static3.thesettlersonline.com...r/ornament.png Camp 20

NORMAL general:
20a) 80 roughnecks, 70 rangers, 30 guard dogs [36R (36R)]
20b) 79 roughnecks, 70 rangers [89R 5S 85C 21LB (71R - 83R - 89R 4S)]

VETERAN general:
20a) 80 roughnecks, 70 rangers, 30 guard dogs [36R (36R)]
20b) 79 roughnecks, 70 rangers [67R 3S 85C 95LB (49R - 60R - 67R 2S)]

VETERAN general and Crossbows:
20a) 80 roughnecks, 70 rangers, 30 guard dogs [36R (36R)]
20b) 79 roughnecks, 70 rangers [67R 3S 85C 95XB (49R - 60R - 67R 2S)]

http://static3.thesettlersonline.com...r/ornament.png Camp 21

NORMAL general:
21a) 140 roughnecks, 60 rangers [155R 45B (155R 45B)]
21b) 63 roughnecks, 60 rangers [50R 5S 75C 70LB (38R - 47R - 50R 4S)]

VETERAN general:
21a) 140 roughnecks, 60 rangers [75R (75R)]
21b) 118 roughnecks, 60 rangers [143R 5S 60C 42LB (112R - 132R - 143R 4S)]

VETERAN general and Crossbows:
21) 140 roughnecks, 60 rangers [160R 15S 36C 39XB (145R - 160R 2S - 160R 14S)]

http://static3.thesettlersonline.com...r/ornament.png Camp 22

NORMAL general:
22a) 100 roughnecks, 60 rangers, 40 guard dogs, 1 Wild Mary [75R 125C (75R 125C)]
22b) 93 roughnecks, 1 Wild Mary [104R 96C (104R 96C)]
22c) 72 roughnecks, 1 Wild Mary [83R 117C (83R 117C)]
22d) 43 roughnecks, 1 Wild Mary [25R 15S 160C (25R 15S 160C)]
22e) 1 Wild Mary [71S 129LB (57S 68S 71S)]

VETERAN general:
22a) 100 roughnecks, 60 rangers, 40 guard dogs, 1 Wild Mary [155R 95C (155R 95C)]
22b) 96 roughnecks, 1 Wild Mary [99R 151C (99R 151C)]
22c) 59 roughnecks, 1 Wild Mary [2R 28S 220C (2R 28S 220C)]
22d) 1 Wild Mary [54S 196LB (41S 51S 53S)]

VETERAN general and Crossbows:
22a) 100 roughnecks, 60 rangers, 40 guard dogs, 1 Wild Mary [155R 95C (155R 95C)]
22b) 96 roughnecks, 1 Wild Mary [99R 151C (99R 151C)]
22c) 59 roughnecks, 1 Wild Mary [2R 28S 220C (2R 28S 220C)]
22d) 1 Wild Mary [99R 1S 150XB (92R 96R 99R)]

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