if you got the mail from bb then buy the stores back from trade or merchant if you have 3k gemsQuote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf-rs
else game over
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if you got the mail from bb then buy the stores back from trade or merchant if you have 3k gemsQuote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf-rs
else game over
Atm you can buy imp storehouse from guild market..
so did anyone get a ban or was it just a idle threat?
Lol if they was banned they can't post here. It's what being banned means. If anyone else posts on their behalf it's at best unprovable hearsay, at worst evidence of another offence which could lead to a ban.Quote:
Originally Posted by hades8840
they got a warning think next 1 they are gone
so uncIear tho, thought if u had 3 from bug then u were in the cIear from first posts from BB if u had 4 or more then you have to pay them back but doesnt say how many u can keep? now saying different? they need to be more specific if u ask me {by the way i onIy got 1 SH from event} the communication is horrific on BB's part as per usuaI they need 2 rethink this...
I found it to be very clear, all explained here:
forum.thesettlersonline.com/threads/28758-Multiple-Improved-Storehouses
If you got 4 or more stores, you must return all but one.
Ok we have found how to detected the ilegal storehouse, image here
http://settlersonlinemaps.com/imgs/222.png
haha thumbs up for the picture
sorry i read a post wrong so u can keep up 2 3 if u didnt get 4 or more if u got 4 or more then u have to pay back enought to Ieave u with 1 i get it now :D stiII wish i had 3 not 1 hehe
Uhm ... they actually put artwork on that? ? ?
If so, then ... sorry to say, but it doesn't look as much like a bug as it looks like a "Live test", because artwork don't come from nowhere, someone has to spend time for it.
Not only for the pictures, but there must be some coding which I -personally- consider more effort than changing the maximum of a slider from 25 to 500 (hint hint).
thats a good point sharpeiIein IoI :) conspiracy
did i miss something? bb gave out free stores? then want them back? but they let you keep a few? what about all of us who were honest and just got the one.. can we get 3 more from bb to level things up?
LOL I said the same, Honesty and integrity just don't pay. The lesson we learn here is to abuse the system, If we get caught fine, but if not tyvm :) Nice life lessons you teach BB.Quote:
Originally Posted by dahmmy
7yr oIds of the future beware u oId peopIe BB is making an army
"Fair" would be if everyone except the abusers got 2 free storehouses delivered by mail, and that's possible because they know who the abusers were.
All of a sudden, legitimate players and cheaters would be on equal footing again.
sharpielein:how do we know if you are not one of abusers too or some others who saying they were honest and dont use bug?i said i use the bug and gave back all stores .if you go back a year ago there was a big bug on line for a month with the gold refill in that time noone wrote anything about cheaters or abusers
Btw,this is a joke :)Quote:
Originally Posted by FastSimTSOmaps
After sobering up a bit and going over it in my head yet again I think the maximum is 4.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brayarg
You could have obtained 1 storehouse at the very start of the event by clicking the final reward and based on the wording of the News item you could have obtained and kept up to 3 from the final day of the event. So players could have 1, 2, 3 or 4 "legitimately". Anything over that pushed them in to slap on the wrist territory and penalised players could legitimately have 1 or 2 because they could have grabbed 1 from the start of the event...
If a player got 1 because they encountered no bugs then they will have less than a player that grabbed that 1 from the start and 100 from the end of the event but had to give back all but 1 of that 100 leaving them with 2. That's a bit poop. :rolleyes:
NB: I bugged out at the start and got 1 but had no bugs at the end giving me another 1, I have 2.
Haha and I fell for it :DQuote:
Originally Posted by FastSimTSOmaps
Why would it matter?Quote:
Originally Posted by litsa
My point was that if the cheaters get to keep their spoils, then the legitimate players are the losers.
If the legitimate players get something and cheaters lose out, that's fair.
I wish it was an optional skin, I prefer the piratey look.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sharpielein
I think this whole thing was a absolute Mess, but i can see points for all the arguments raised from both sides i really can.
But
I think i would been very annoyed if my pegi-7 son or daughter came and played this game to be threatened by the developers, for something that to them would be no more moraly wrong then getting a biscuit from the biscuit barrel without mommy or daddys say so, this i think has been a monumental error on behalf of BB_. BB i think its time you maybe re-assed your pegi-7 rating if you want to threaten 7 year olds with the lose of there accounts, these children don't understand fraud and i can assure you they would not of view it as theft.
I'm sorry BB_ i like you and i like that game but on this occasion the "Threat" was wrong you should of just left them of removed them.
i m with wolf...they kinda scared people here... even the big ones :))
They shouldn't really be playing a game if they can't understand the rules, even if the age permits them to play it.Quote:
Originally Posted by wolf_man95
Especially not if their parents refuse to take accountability for what they do online.
Actually, just as in Real Life: If your 7-year-old-child gets $100000 for going over start in Monopoly, that will also result in nobody wanting to play with him anymore.
This is just the virtual version of the very thing which is very, very normal in reality, so what is wrong with that?
Plus, Bluebyte is not "threatening people with the loss of their account"
Bluebyte is merely saying "You got something you shouldn't have, and you MUST give it back!"
What would you say if in Real Life, your 7-year-old child came home with the teacher's wallet?
Would you explain to the school that they can't impose consequences because a 7yo can't understand the concept of theft, or would you explain to your child that they did do something wrong and must give it back? Would you consider it draconic if the school threatened consequences if the teacher didn't get his wallet back unscathed?
Yes, mistakes can happen, but a very polite warning "You crossed the line, now undo it" is NOT an immoral "threat".
I know certain other gaming companies where you'd simply end up with a no-warning permban. That may be better in the sense that you wouldn't be able to call it a "threat".
But would you like it better?
And what is your suggestion? To ban the players of the mistake of the company? If the Bluebyte does that from my side i dont spent a single euro on this game again. And i believe and other players nave the same opinion with meQuote:
Originally Posted by Sharpielein
The existence of the glitch was BlueByte's fault. But the people abusing the glitch are responsible for their own action. Just because there is a glitch doesn't mean you have to abuse it.
yeah id even pay a percentage for an extra 2 storehouses, say 75% of what one is worth? ill barter for extra, unlike those pesky exploiters who are like children caught with there hands in the cookie jar. :P
And because of this action of the players the company must ban them?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhylian
Look i understand the game has rules who must obey from the players and if they violates them the company must take action against them.
But in the summer event the company give this event unfinished and untested to the players with the known side effects.
And i believe the Bluebyte must find an other legitimate way for the player who make use of the bug.
I do not think it was inappropriate of BB to ask that the extra ISH be returned, even though it was their mistake and even though their request was very belated, and I have in fact returned mine. But if for a mistake that was theirs and compounded by their slow response, they present players who at least thought their action had been condoned by BB and therefore sold ISH, which now cannot be bought from TO (there aren't enough for sale) so must be bought from the merchant and therefore ultimately with real money, the company threatens to ban players, they leave these players with the option of being banned, spending real money under that menace, or simply quitting the game, to which they had contributed and from which they had derived enjoyment. I can understand you people wanting to have the same goodies as other players. I cannot understand your eagerness to have them injured in a serious way. Granted, a few of you can sell storehouses for exorbitant prices to some of the exploiters, thereby exploiting the exploit at least as much as the offenders. But most storehouses would have to be purchased from the merchant, for gems, which in no way profits other players. I would strongly suggest that it is in BB's interest to find a better way. For instance, BB gives each of us 100 gems a week. They could withhold those until either store houses or their gem value had been returned. If penalties are being handed out, as opposed to resources simply being repossessed, however, BB should penalize itself, perhaps by giving two extra ISH to all players who participated in the game, not just the ones they have decided to declare innocent.
Because of bugs that were identified on the test server but not adequately dealt with, and other aspects of poor implementation, the football event was intrinsically unfair to a number of players
That being so, I find it particularly bizarre that BB chose to penalize players for lack of fair play when the players' actions, however undesirable from BB's point of view, did not in fact disadvantage other players. No one was forced to buy an Improved Storage House in TO, and one player's quantity of storage is not a factor in another player's success or failure in the game.
The only party to the game who can be unfair to players is, in fact, BB. It can and often does arrange matters so that they favour gem buyers; players believe, perhaps erroneously, that some servers are compensated for service failures more generously than others. However that may be, even BB cannot by providing goods to one player and not to another enable the first player to "defeat" the second, because there is no pvp, no individual ranking system, no in-game reward of any kind that is unavailable to one player because it was given to another.
i wonder what was the most improved storehouses any one player received from BB's mistake?
bottom line...
BB says those that got 4 can keep them
those that got 25 can only keep 1
seems fair.....
smh
There is a basic question that continues to go unanswered... In taking the storehouses, what rule was broken?
Even with today's revisions to the In-Game Rules and Code of Conduct, using an exploit is not forbidden, and BB has not accused us of breaking any rules.
However, with its official communications, BB insinuated that we are cheaters by asking us to refer questions to "Report suspected Hacking and Cheating", or thieves with "wrongfully acquired" storehouses. This opened the door for insults, accusations and flaming by some people in this thread... actions which ARE in direct violation of the IGR/CoC, and sadly have continued past Ravel's reminder yesterday.
There was a conversation recently regarding what does or does not constitute a trade scam. (staff response on page 2 of thread) If I buy a trade which hurts me in TO, it's my mistake, not the person's who placed the trade. If I place a bad trade in TO and someone buys it before I can withdraw it, they are not scamming me; I made the mistake. If I contact that person explaining my mistake, apologizing and asking for it back nicely, there is a high chance they will agree to reverse the trade. If I contact them with anger and name-calling and threats, there is a high chance that they will snort and say NO.
BB made a bad trade. If they had posted right away with something like "Hey guys, there was another bug in the calendar which allowed some ppl to take more than the 1 storehouse we intended. We have fixed the problem and will be devising a way to reclaim the extra storehouses, details to follow. Please direct questions to Support--Problems with the Game" they would have met a much different response and had a higher success rate. Instead they waited nearly a week and then came with aggression and threats, and many people snorted and said NO.
BB made a bad trade. They put up some bad code and lost some resources at a below market price. In the absence of a rule violation or the invocation of the "you're banned because we say you are" clauses, perhaps like the player with the bad trade, they need to take it on the chin and move on.
please BB close this threat...and send us some Improved silos instead :)))
Colophon
From the beginning my intention was to point out that the main issue is not the return of resources but that the company is accusing all the players who earned from this event, by what is clearly a company's mistake, as hackers and cheaters. This is a game. When you are accusing a player that is a cheater then the game has no meaning any more, because once a cheater always a cheater.
As players we have accepted the following term:
16.2 Termination of the Account or Services at UBISOFT's initiative
In the event of a breach of your legal or contractual obligations, we reserve the right to take legal action on grounds of civil or criminal responsibility in order to stop the breach and obtain compensation for our losses. In particular, and without limitation, we reserve the right to prosecute any User who was deliberately damaged or attempted to damage the Services or disrupted the legitimate functioning of the Services or provided assistance for so doing.
In our case if a player accepts to return the resources, is as if he declares himself guilty of deliberately cheating and is accepting this penalty in order to avoid further prosecution from the company. More over, who can reassure me that they will not take any further legal actions for prosecuting any user? Today we face this situation, in future who knows? As you realize this is not a simple and innocent game.
Best regards to all who posted in this thread.
+1Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhylian
what does that mean?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sharpielein
The company has only the right to defend themselves and the players not?
From the moment i spent real money to the game i demand to respect me.
And is very suspicious the way various posters defend the actions of the company
And i ask again the bluebyte has the right to prosecute players who breach the rules of the game BUT who protect the players from the wrongfully accuses of the company?
i agree with youQuote:
Originally Posted by foofygirl