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1 egg = 20 coins. Really? Wonder how many hours/days it will take before some sanity establishes itself.
I'm not giving you 20 coins for 1 egg, OK? :) Before the event I'd have gone to 10 coins per egg, but 20? You're having a laugh.
I know I'm not the only one thinking this, and that's why I've made this thread. I'll see you all in the trading office... ;)
I couldn't agree with you more mate, it's like in on our server as well and it all just comes down to greed and then everyone follows suit. In the end it starts destroying a once great game as knowone is willing to work as a team and help out.Quote:
Originally Posted by BobLurker
Well i hope things start to change soon as I know I wont be spending GC on eggs at them silly prices lol.
This happened at xmas too, I was paying 120 gc for 10 prez after 2 weeks of the event (thats when I first started up), then they gave a load of prez for xmas day and the price dropped dramatically. Be patient for a while! i know its hard cause u want the easter goodies now, Wait for good friday and easter sunday, then youll see a change. I'm surprised ppl are buying at these prices, pure lunacy atm!
yup they will always fluctuate up and down depending on demand.. And as im level 50 I really don't need anything anyway so im more interested in helping my guildies out who actually need the eggs etc
But is anyone buying? Price dropped to 18 coins now.Quote:
Originally Posted by MutantKid
What I wonder is who established this insane 1 egg = 20 coins price in the first place? It's like a group got together and decided and the sheep followed suit. I've not been following chat much, so not sure what's being said, but I hope the message to wait until more sensible prices are posted is getting through, particularly to newer players.
Yeah, really insane prices considering you get a lot of eggs from long / very long explorer searches for free, and there are many quest chains to get eggs. I suppose everybody tries to get that experienced explorer asap, but still.. In christmas there were a lot harder to get presents so price was high for a reason..
I have noticed that nowadays prices are skyrocketing ten times a value each time there is something going on, free gifts and so on. People must be really bored and swim in gold coins in this game.. Apparently they still buy because people continue to offer those ridicilous prices.:confused:
Thats the current problem! ppl are buying! Just look in trades over all 3 servers and youll find ppl offering 1600+ gc for 100 eggs, that in turn makes the seller think "well if they willing to pay that then ill charge this". With the usual price fixing going on as well u just have to sit bk and wait.
I guess once the rich & impatient have got all their eggs/ran out of resource gold coins etc then the price will drop.
There are obvious reasons for these prices, mainly that bb gave us just what we all wished for (be careful etc...):
-There is literally something for everyone in this event, meaning ofc that more players are looking to buy eggs, not sell them.
-The way bb has showered x3 buffs over the servers means there is more gold available than at earlier events.
-Assuming that many players are after the vet gen, he is priced at 3 times the eggs you can get from quests...
...and finally, the fact that bb gave in to pressure, opening for buying a second (or third...) vet for those who have been around since last easter. I was kind of surprised seeing all the cheering following that decision, the consequence was pretty obvious.
One last request to bb: Can we please have 1 -one- event where you do NOT change the rules as we play? ;)
IF the rich and impatient get everything in time so the prices would drop for the rest of us. Let's all hope so.. Right now I have found much more profitable use for gold like adding coin production..;). And seriously people are selling all their stock for 10 eggs/10000 unit of finished products and egg prices are going still up.. Eggs are seriously not good investment. I can get much more mf:s and granite with my stock.
This game is starting to be not so fun in the long run with these prices, without spending tons of gems on products you can live without. Just simply because everybody else has them. And with gems it often feels like you're not really playing, just cheating or creating shortcuts. You can just buy tons of eggs with gems but it is not fun.
The server's age does also play a large part, prices for event items on much younger servers are generally much lower while those on ancient servers are much higher. It's interesting I think that the three Euro have very similar prices, seems we've finally balanced. That said, I'm hoping our prices do come down as time goes on, as they've done for every seasonal event I've seen so far.
sad that greed has got the better of a lot of players ,last year the prices were not like this but nothing you can do if a few set the price the sheep will follow.
Hello!
Try not too worry about current prices.
They usually drop right down to 5-10c each, if no ones buys them the quicker they fall in price ;).
Enjoy the event :).
Sinister-King
When people buy at these prices then the price is right. What you think is irrelevant :pQuote:
Originally Posted by BobLurker
I love it when people talk the prices up or down, is it wishful thinking or tactics? Only at the end of the event will we know what the value of the eggs was really, and even then it will depend on what each player has achieved ( or not) compared to what they set out to achieve. And Bob if you think 10gc is a good price ...then sell me some, I'll buy all you have at that price :D:D ( shame we're not on the same server :p)
On our server, resellers are buying eggs at 17-18gc and then trying to sell them for 20-22gc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dragavon
Each day explorers come in with eggs and people complete parts of their quest, if these people aren't interested in selling to the resellers then they are going to sink those eggs in to the event items and therefore reduce demand. If they do sell to the resellers then demand is still reduced because the people selling value coins more than they do the event items and they wont take a loss in coins, they can't afford it. The going price for watermills on our server is about 3k coins so no-one is going to buy eggs to sink in to watermills at more than 13gc, it's pointless, so it's obvious what that does for demand. The only people buying at the top end 20-22gc inflated price to buy event items are those who have more coins than than they know what to do with and that reduces demand. The resellers are tapping the same low end inflated market of 17-18gc as other players who want to buy event items right now and have no choice but to pay that low end inflated price, that reduces demand.
I had 20k coins at the start of the event, I have more coins than I started with, I've got the two explorers and I'm on course to get the Vet general before the end of the event without spending my coins on eggs. I'm only going to buy eggs at 12gc or lower and if they don't drop that low I simply don't care. I'm level 44, there are a lot of players like me and there are a lot of lower level players who are selling eggs to resellers.
Buying high to fix a price so you can sell at an even higher price is an extremely high risk strategy because bubbles, inevitably, burst.
What buyers think is never, ever, irrelevant if you want to run a successful business. :rolleyes:
Sell high early and buy low later. It's an age old strategy. I've been selling my eggs for 20gc, and will buy the ones I need when the price is right. If it's never right, then at least I got a ton of gold coins out of it.
Excellent analysis. :) I think the quests that need players to acquire 500 or 800 eggs is also playing its part, because players need to stockpile rather than spend eggs. I'm not risking selling right now, but I'm not buying either. Prices will come down, but if not, then I'll stick with what I earn, because at these egg prices it's not feasible to afford all the items without effectively spending money/gems.Quote:
Originally Posted by Splotch
I won't spend my gold coin getting eggs at the price of 18-20gc each either. Before the event started, I'd think it would be about 10 gc each at most, but even at that price the rabbit buff is going to cost 1200 gc each and there will be no profit any more. At that price, the only items that are valuable to buy to me are Vet gen and experienced explorer, probably watermill too. Watermill is priced about 3300-3900gc each on my server now which are higher than usually about 800-1400gc, not really a big deal, but since we are limited to 5 watermills per person so I try to buy them in market as many as I can before I have to use my limit. Like other events I guess eggs price will go down, at least for the last week of the event when everyone already get what they want, hopefully.
last easter the price of eggs dropped by about half in the last couple of weeks, on quite a few occasions i bought 100eggs for around 50gc near the end, even as little as 40gc.
Well thanks to those egg opportunists the prices are going still up in our server and there seems to be no end at this madness..:( Well I have to start offering too, too because I'm not going to spend over 2000 for 100 eggs to those greedy resellers who think this kind of game is fun..
I was quick enough to realise I cant get a better deal than 15,5 gc per egg on first day of event. It's still 3x higher than last year egg price. Who knows price might drop after 2 quest chain. Those reseller doing what they're meant to be, getting profit from this rip-off market :)
I don't think the resellers are controlling the market as much as you think they are. The proof will be the mediocre drop in prices at the start of the next 6 day quest. The 6 day following that should show a much steeper drop in price. By the 4th chain I'd guestimate prices to be around 10-12 coins per egg (price guess based on watermills).
The steady rise in prices you're seeing this week are simply because more eggs are being consumed than new ones being created.
This is of course only my opinion, but I'll be surprised if I'm wrong :)
Ok...day 5 of chain 4!! - market report - eggs still at 20gc mainly - 5 days in and I have collected 45 eggs but only 15 count towards the 800... So I am due to get another chain tomorrow???..that will go on hold! so am I egg -static... bet your life I am... totally STATIC!!
The price could fall if the purchase of Gems this event had on promoting "100% BONUS" to buy. That is the problem is the high value of Ubi$oft. "translate by google :("
@canute: Try offering all of your eggs at a ridiculously high price in the market (e.g. 1000 GC per egg), wait half a minute and cancel your offer. Suddenly all of your eggs count towards the 800 (or 500) target. You will still need to acquire the remaining 755 eggs (~15K GC) - which is an absolute joke pricewise. If you want the 100 eggs bonus, then rather invest 150 gems (at the 500 egg target level, your's may be higher) to complete the quest without spending so many GC.
heres logic for you :D
a watermill cost 895gems normal resale price is 3200gc
895 gems can get you 300 eggs
100 eggs is selling for 4600gc so 300eggs would sale for 13800
why are ppl buying at these crazy prices
Ubisoft should make special egg sale that everybody could get eggs at a reasonable price. This whole thing is so unfair right now and this game feels bad. I'm thinking about quitting every day even if I would get all the eggs I want myself..:( I'm though with this capitalistic greed and games should be time off from dull and bad things from everyday life, not stressful and unfun like the real world..lol :/
This whole event has been so far huge disappointment. And all I can say Northisle server is sucky server with most greedy people on it. As far as I can figure, resellers don't even make so much profit, just raise prices sky high. Only few rotten eggs spoil the whole game for everybody else. I'm also playing on another server and there the prices are 15-17 /egg. Lot more reasonable price but still very high though.
i had 40k coins ready for this event, and in fact was ready to give the game another shot at this special occasion. well i still have all my coins and will not trade for eggs at this prices. before the event a watermill was ~3k coins, now double. i know the prices are player driven but BB needs to think about how to make an event not fail.
poorly designed events make this game a terrible waste of time. these events should be designed to reward everybody in some way and keep ppl interested in an already deeply flawed game designed around making you buy gems (hello upg buildings with gems?)
Hello upgrading buildings with resources? At no point is there not a non-gem option.Quote:
Originally Posted by Metallix
They do. Complete just one of the easter quest chains and that is 150 eggs = 2 floating houses. Complete all 4 that is 600 eggs = 5 floating houses with some left over for buffs. Or a new explorer with some left over. Or just sell the lot at the high prices - one quest chain of 150 eggs you can sell for nearly 3k gold coins. Not to shabby especially for the lower levels.Quote:
Originally Posted by Metallix
really ? how is rewarding spending 15-20 eggs worth of resources to get 10 eggs back ? why am i doing these chains, or parts of them at least if they reward me LESS than i spent completing them!Quote:
Originally Posted by Chilly728
There is also the 100 Eggs reward at the end of each chain.Quote:
Originally Posted by Metallix
SasleiaHope on .de made an interesting point about pricing, until late October the old Trade system was still active and 400 (a 'stack') of any resource was the maximum that could be asked for any one thing, with that cap gone pricing is left entirely to us and as servers have aged and people have more things prices have reflected that.
Even so Chilly728 makes an excellent point, doing any of the chains one can afford offers the opportunity for some very nice things.
Hi,
May I thank Bob for opening the thread.
Last year I spotted something during the Euro Cup Event.
The price of a football was silly daft stupid :-)
So I bought £10 worth of gems went to the shop and filled my boots with footballs. I sold them all and levelled up virtually my entire building stock to L3.
There's no way I could have done this without such an opportunity.
Now whilst many people will play this game for free and I respect and understand their choice my suggestion would be to do the same now as I did earlier with the footballs.
Go and buy £10 worth of eggs. Sell them at silly crazy stupid prices and wait. See if you can buy them back later in the process for a cheaper price or just use the resources (20 gold per egg is a bit steep - 18 is nearer the mark :-) to upgrade your island.
Just a contrarians thoughts and in no way is my suggestion meant to be anything else other than genuine :-)
Nuttymut :-)
The big counter to this whole thing is basically like trying to look for patterns in the stock market. If everyone uses that tactic, it wont work. Imagine if all players failed to buy any Easter Eggs because they were waiting for prices to drop, then come the end of the event, the demand will skyrocket with all players trying to buy back Eggs that have already left the market because they've been spent on Floating Residences or Veteran Generals!
Then the prices will only do one thing, sky rocket!
Tricky situation that you can't really double guess, best way might be to keep an eye on the market and get a feel for when it makes sense to buy rather than hanging on too late!
I agree. I bought 100 eggs for 1950 coins just so I could have my third fast explorer ( now 2 experienced, 1 savage scout ). He is now being used to search for more eggs along with 2 fast, and 3 normal explorers. Potentially 24 eggs per day if I send the normal ones on long searches, and the fast ones on very long. I also have all 5 floating residences.Quote:
Originally Posted by peck_ed
However, like most people here, I will not be buying any more eggs until the prices become more reasonable, because I have bought what I wanted from the event. The rest of the eggs will probably go towards another Vet General, or failing that, Watermills. The point is that once players have bought what they wanted with the eggs, they won't buy more, so the prices should come down..........eventually. :-)
Prior to this event a vocal minority claimed they was being treated unfairly because they would not be able to get the easter vet general on account that they had already had obtained one last year (pass me a shovel please). BB to my amazment caved in and granted these people their wish. This had lead to the situation where every one qualifies to obtain one of these desirable easter vets. This vocal minority obviously are high level players, most of them in the level 50 group. With the current development of the game they quite clearly don't need the extra vet for getting XP faster, so they must be thinking ahead to when PvP comes in. Not knowing exactly PvP will work they took the step of deciding bigger is going to be better in the PvP envroment. I'm willing to bet this group is the cause of the current egg prices, after all they have the resources to set the market prices on the 1st day. It is in their intrests to keep the prices as high as possible so as to deny other's the chance of getting enough eggs and by doing so ensuring that their armys wont be as big. Go back to the thread where they demanded the extra vet, make a note of their names and when they invite you to PvP them, tell them their army's can take a long march off a short pier. By denying them PvpP hopefully this vocal minority of cry babies will abandon the game and seek pastures new.
Hi Doretheus,Quote:
By denying them PvpP hopefully this vocal minority of cry babies will abandon the game and seek pastures new.
May I suggest that this comment wasn't particularly constructive please.
I think BB's change of mind allowing players who already had a Vet Gen to acquire a second was both reasonable and extremely fair. I think it also showed that BB are prepared to react to a situation and work constructively with the playing community. I find this very encouraging and I can only thank BB for their current approach to the playing community.
Furthermore it's clearly a matter of choice how much any player spends on the game. No one is forcing any player to spend anything on the game. However, clearly those who do spend money on the game are the only reason it continues to be available to those who don't.
I am not sure if this is your perception of events or if you have actual numbers to hand which allow you make this claim. It would be incorrect of me not to allow you to support this claim with those figures.Quote:
Prior to this event a vocal minority claimed they was being treated unfairly
This really doesn't support your first comment does it? You have stated that a small minority of players have complained. If the decision to allow a second Vet Gen only applies to this minority surely it would not have a huge effect on the market prices? In addition if the decision actually applied to a larger number of players then it suggests that the number of players who asked BB to review their rules is actually completley irrelevant. In both cases I would respectfully suggest that the number of players who approached BB is nothing more than a red herring.Quote:
This had lead to the situation where every one qualifies to obtain one of these desirable easter vets.
Again I would like to respectfully suggest that I should allow you to support this comment with some numbers please.Quote:
This vocal minority obviously are high level players, most of them in the level 50 group.
It would make a great deal of sense to have superior numbers in a PvP environment. Why would any player not want to be in such a position? I feel players at any level should be allowed to think ahead and attempt to put themselves in a good position for PvP. However, if I have understood things correctly PvP will be a choice for players. Players will be allowed to opt in or out of PvP.Quote:
Not knowing exactly PvP will work they took the step of deciding bigger is going to be better in the PvP envroment.
Of course you're willing to bet on something that's intangible. I have suggested in another post that high egg prices are actually a very good way for low budget players to make their money go further in the game. By buying £10 worth of eggs and selling them at the current high prices a player could raise significant quantities of gold with which to invest in their Island.Quote:
I'm willing to bet this group is the cause of the current egg prices, after all they have the resources to set the market prices on the 1st day. It is in their intrests to keep the prices as high as possible so as to deny other's the chance of getting enough eggs and by doing so ensuring that their armys wont be as big.
In my opinion I think your post lacks any real substance to support you claims. I would respectfully suggest you can challenge my opinion by providing some additional information which would allow me to reconsider my opinion.
I think BB's decision to allow a second Vet Gen was fair, reasonable timely and simply the correct choice.
Best
Nuttymut
Your analogous post about the stock market and the price of Easter Eggs reminded of my own strategies that I have used in the past to invest in stocks and shares.Quote:
Originally Posted by peck_ed
Currently I am acquiring eggs for less than 17gc/ea.
Value investors employ unique short term strategies to make a profit. They have extremely tight filters and will sit on the sidelines waiting for their entry criterion to arise. The term value has distinct measurable and quantifiable information. Value investors should not be confused with contrarian investors though. However, both disciplines do have some similar aspects.
Value investors would find the egg market on TSO an impossible place to speculate. The fixed number of aggs available would dilute the essential value of their investment. Contrarian investors would be selling what eggs they do have whilst demand was strong. They would indeed take a contrarian stance to the way the market is flowing. Their "bet" would be against the herd.
Hedge Funds would of course be all over the TSO market place as there as so many fixed points within the sum that they can wade in and control the supply and demand by essentially using large volumes of cash. Hedge funds love fixed points where variables should exist. It allows them to take profit whilst others take the risk.
Are Eggs suitable for the average pension policy. Well I'm afraid not. They are a short term commodity. Their price is intrinsically linked to the value of the Veteran General and that's a fixed economic target. It would be impossible to achieve pound cost averaging over such a short term.
These are interesting times and it will be excting to see where this market takes us :-)
Nuttymut :-)
Don't forget Coins and Granite help make up the FX market!