Quests XP not awarding Star Coins.

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26.09.13 21:16
RonPope

Quests XP not awarding Star Coins.

There are a lot of players who have reached 50 who never turned in their quests before the (initial introduction of star coins), still have quests that gives XP. There will also be players reaching 50 in the future that will have quests in their logs that gives XP.

To me this is a BUG. Quests XP needs to award Star Coins. Currently they do not.

There are many quests prior to level 50 that players get that can't finish or don't finish. (also side quests).
Sophisticated Pillager is an explorer skill that gives Adventure Quests that awards Quest XP if you complete the adventure.
I'm sure also, level 50 players doing the Fairy Tale quest chains are wondering about their 1000 quest XPs.
Adventure Maps such as LOST SKULL and TROPICAL ISLAND, awards quest XP along the adventure when you complete certain tasks.

All these Quest XP do add up significantly. And they need to award Star Coins.
14.10.13 16:53
Ashan

I agree, but I wouldn't call it a bug unless they have actually implemented the code that transforms all XP after lvl 50 to star coins, which I don't think they have (it's hard to tell without a complete list of fixes after each maintenance).

Until this is fixed they should implement that script that turns all lvl 50 excess XP into star coins once a month, if possible.
14.10.13 16:56
EctoRune

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Originally Posted by Ashan

I agree, but I wouldn't call it a bug unless they have actually implemented the code that transforms all XP after lvl 50 to star coins, which I don't think they have (it's hard to tell without a complete list of fixes after each maintenance).

Until this is fixed they should implement that script that turns all lvl 50 excess XP into star coins once a month, if possible.

All of my Adventure XP is currently transformed into Star XP. This was done a while ago.
15.10.13 05:36
Faststriker

Adv. like lost skull and tropical where you get some xp from doing things along the way actuelly gives the xp as star coin in the end. Yes while on the adv. you get the reward as xp, but as soon as you get the loot its converted into star coins. So those works just fine.

About the quest XP, then just do the quests along the way instead of skipping them, i really don´t see any problems with that, there is no quest you get after you have reached lvl 50 that gives xp. And i really think that most of the people that have gotten to lvl 50 before star coins came, they [ couldn't care less ] about that small amount of xp they can get from there remaining quests.

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15.10.13 08:57
EctoRune

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Originally Posted by Faststriker

About the quest XP, then just do the quests along the way instead of skipping them, i really don´t see any problems with that, there is no quest you get after you have reached lvl 50 that gives xp. And i really think that most of the people that have gotten to lvl 50 before star coins came, they [ couldn't care less ] about that small amount of xp they can get from there remaining quests.

Didn't you read the thread at all? If you have an upgraded explorer, you can get bonus quests every time he finds an adventure, which provides you with another 5k xp. This XP should be converted into Star Coins, especially considering that it's only possible to get this XP if you're already lvl 50.
15.10.13 12:34
Faststriker

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Originally Posted by EctoRune

Didn't you read the thread at all? If you have an upgraded explorer, you can get bonus quests every time he finds an adventure, which provides you with another 5k xp. This XP should be converted into Star Coins, especially considering that it's only possible to get this XP if you're already lvl 50.

Yes i did read it. I was talking in the more generel matter. I do see that, that specifik quest should be changed. But that every other quests you get while leveling up should give star coins just because a player choose to ignore them, i really don´t think that should be rewarded, there is a reason those quests are there.
15.10.13 13:04
lulu10093

Once your level 50 any quests that give you xp you DONT get star coins for them.

you only get star coin as xp from adventures, but in the case of fairytale adventures you get extra beans instead of the xp/star coins in last spot

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Originally Posted by RonPope

Quests XP needs to award Star Coins. Currently they do not.

fully agree but saying i turned level 50 in May i did get backdated xp from adventures i had done.

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Originally Posted by RonPope

All these Quest XP do add up significantly. And they need to award Star Coins.

I don't think they have any thing in the pipeline to change this and they will probably leave it as xp from non FT adventures only give star coins

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Originally Posted by EctoRune

Didn't you read the thread at all? If you have an upgraded explorer, you can get bonus quests every time he finds an adventure, which provides you with another 5k xp. This XP should be converted into Star Coins, especially considering that it's only possible to get this XP if you're already lvl 50.

can i just ask why do you have to be level 50 to have a updated explorer?
surely you can enhance their skills before that.

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Originally Posted by Faststriker

Yes i did read it. I was talking in the more generel matter. I do see that, that specifik quest should be changed. But that every other quests you get while leveling up should give star coins just because a player choose to ignore them, i really don´t think that should be rewarded, there is a reason those quests are there.

I did all my quest as i got them the only one that was worth moaning about in this matter would be the get 10k gc from epic adventures loot
i had all but last 300 coins for this quest and the xp off that quest would have saved me doing another nords/bk (cant remember which i did) to get the xp to get to 50 but as soon as i got to level 50 my next loot had the gc i would have needed but its all luck of the draw lol
15.10.13 13:26
EctoRune

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Originally Posted by Faststriker

Yes i did read it. I was talking in the more generel matter. I do see that, that specifik quest should be changed. But that every other quests you get while leveling up should give star coins just because a player choose to ignore them, i really don´t think that should be rewarded, there is a reason those quests are there.

Giving players access to the same benefits as everyone else isn't rewarding them. On the contrary, making some XP worthless for some players is a punishment, and there seems to be no point to it. Why should a player who does an adventure, then a quest get a worse rewards than a player who do them the other way around? It's a completely arbitrary punishment for an arbitrary subset of players.

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Originally Posted by lulu10093

can i just ask why do you have to be level 50 to have a updated explorer?
surely you can enhance their skills before that.

You can. But the ability to get bonus quests for adventures is a top-tier ability, which doesn't unlock until level 50.
15.10.13 13:36
Faststriker

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Originally Posted by EctoRune

Giving players access to the same benefits as everyone else isn't rewarding them. On the contrary, making some XP worthless for some players is a punishment, and there seems to be no point to it. Why should a player who does an adventure, then a quest get a worse rewards than a player who do them the other way around? It's a completely arbitrary punishment for an arbitrary subset of players.

Its not a punishment from BB, its a personal choice to ignore a part of the game that gives xp. Instead of just power leveling through the lvl´s, then just take a few min to get those small quests done too. I know some of them will take some time to get done, but its all part of the game. And its deffently not the developers intent that players just power levels through the game by adventures and ignoring other parts of the game.
15.10.13 13:36
lulu10093

ah ok thank you i didn't know that bit
then yes the quest xp off that should also be converted to star coins in my view then.
15.10.13 16:49
Dorotheus

It's quite simple. they ask that if you do X and they will reward you. The fact is a reward is not received, this is false advertising a practice which in the real world carries stiff penalties. It does not matter what their legal department says because word will get round which will tarnish the companies reputation that they are not to be trusted. This will if it has not already hit them in the revenue stream.
15.10.13 19:34
fishslice

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Originally Posted by Faststriker

Its not a punishment from BB, its a personal choice to ignore a part of the game that gives xp. Instead of just power leveling through the lvl´s, then just take a few min to get those small quests done too. I know some of them will take some time to get done, but its all part of the game. And its deffently not the developers intent that players just power levels through the game by adventures and ignoring other parts of the game.

LMAO Theres a quest you only get at L50 to hold 200k coins and whats the reward? - yet more xp that disappears into the ether so its not a reward at all. Just extremely bad coding in my opinion and no consideration for the user experience...

Again a fail from BB on so many levels.
16.10.13 05:06
Faststriker

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Originally Posted by fishslice

LMAO Theres a quest you only get at L50 to hold 200k coins and whats the reward? - yet more xp that disappears into the ether so its not a reward at all. Just extremely bad coding in my opinion and no consideration for the user experience...

Again a fail from BB on so many levels.

I have that quest. No XP as reward here. So either that has been removed or it has never been there.
16.10.13 08:32
EctoRune

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Originally Posted by Faststriker

Its not a punishment from BB, its a personal choice to ignore a part of the game that gives xp. Instead of just power leveling through the lvl´s, then just take a few min to get those small quests done too. I know some of them will take some time to get done, but its all part of the game. And its deffently not the developers intent that players just power levels through the game by adventures and ignoring other parts of the game.

It certainly is punishment in the sense that it's a decision to reward some players less for undertaking the same actions.

This seems like you're projecting your own opinions on to the developers. If the developers really wanted to discourage people from leaving their quests until after they hit lvl 50, why have they included quests that can only be gotten after hitting lvl 50, that give XP? It's obviously nonsense. Your attempt to speak to the intent of the developers might be a more efficient argument if their actions didn't so clearly contradict your claims regarding their intentions.

And putting aside the fact that the developers obviously don't share your opinion on the evils of doing quests after reaching lvl 50, have you considered how silly your stance is? Why on earth is it less valid to do your quests after lvl 50, and what does it have to do with power levelling? What's wrong with doing the quests when it's convenient for me?

In the end, this is really just an oversight on the part of the developers. One they'll hopefully fix soon :)
16.10.13 08:47
Faststriker

Ectorune

It seems like that we can´t agree on this subject, so lets just agree on disagreing.

And as long as there isn´t any kind of response from BB then this all matters of opinons.
16.10.13 10:47
EctoRune

Alright, Faststriker. That's fair.
07.11.13 18:52
Ashan

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Originally Posted by Faststriker

About the quest XP, then just do the quests along the way instead of skipping them, i really don´t see any problems with that, there is no quest you get after you have reached lvl 50 that gives xp. And i really think that most of the people that have gotten to lvl 50 before star coins came, they [ couldn't care less ] about that small amount of xp they can get from there remaining quests.

I got the "Bandit nightmare"-quest (earn 10k gold coins from epic adventures) a long time ago and even after reaching level 50 I haven't been able to finish it yet. Not because I don't want to do it yet, but beacuse I can't control what I get in the loot. The quest reward is 24,8k XP and yes it's not much in the long run, but it still feels wrong that I will lose that XP (or equivalent amount of Star coins) just because I got bad luck with the loot.

I sent a query about this to Support yesterday and got this response:

"Regarding XP conversion, please note the following:

-The XP you get from quests are not converted into Star Coins.

-The only XP that will be converted into Star Coins, will be the XP you receive from the old adventures.

-The Fairy Tale adventures will not give Star Coins, instead, players will receive Magic Beans."