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while playing the other night i miss clicked on a trade yes i know and accept its my own fault.
what i wanna get an opinion on is wether the other player was trying a scam trade hoping for some one to miss click trade was 75000 coal (1500gc tops) for 500 beans (7500 gc). this trade was in among the list of other coal trades so easy to miss click it if your not carefull.
can trade like this be reported ? if so will anything be done to the perpetrator ?
Sorry but that would not be a scam... you clicked on a trade and that's it... Nobody's fault but your own be it a fair trade or not. Now you could contact the other player and ask for a swap (given ur mistake) but don't call it a scam cause it isn't.
if you read my 1st line i already accept its my fault for clicking.....
could u give me an example of a scam then so i can see what you mean ?
and yes i contacted the other player.....who told me in no uncertain terms he wont return the beans ( his looking at 6k profit),thats life and i accept some players will pull,what i call "a trick" on others although some people would dis agree with my stance.
There is no scam in TO... scams can only happen when it is about lootspots and/or gifted items (for something in return) or multiple item swaps, basically any trade that cannot be done directly in TO
Anyone can place any trade in TO, no rules about what i offer or what i buy :))
That trade could be nothing more than a player typing in the wrong number of "0"'s.
dortheus i think not he knows exactly what his trading cause after i spoke to him through the mail system he basically laughed and put up the same trade again.....
thx you for the explaination/definition stefancetare....then i should use unscrupulous trade then put up by an unscrupulous player ?....as no one in thier right mind would trade 1500gc of good for 7500gc of goods ?.....so the players only hope of completing that trade is by some one accidentally misclicking or a real new player who dont know anything about the value of goods ?
It's not a scam. A scam would be pretending to sell one thing and giving another.
These sort of things happen often, and they would be more accurately described as traps or tricks. Prices made such that to the casual observer or quick clicker, it appears on the level, but if you look closely you see that it's obviously unfair. Often they are priced so they appear between other suitable trades, or have an extra digit that is hard(er) to see.
Unfortunately you really need be careful how you click.
Don't quote me on what i said... never said it is a fair trade or "right". I only said that it is not a scam. Just look at trades for footballs and collectibles... some people are just plain greedy and unfair in their trades but still not scamming...Quote:
Originally Posted by ATHTHEMANIAC
yes totomok i original used the wrong word maybe cause i was so annoyed with myself for miss clicking and the attitude of the other player when i mailed him in game.
this was a unscrupulous trick/trap trade this can be clearly seen by all people who know anything about prices of goods on settlers.
he just sits and hopes some one miss clicks and falls for his trick,which at after midnight and being tired i did.
as he has the same trade up on newfoundland trade office i hope people who read this can see how he is trying to pull this stunt and maybe warn people in there guilds about him and put him on ignore.
It because of all the awful trade offers on the TO that the whole system needs to be looked at. Many players use gold coins to value items, as its easier to work out if the trade is fair and most are not. If BB could implement a coin value for each trade (which i suggested a long time ago) then there would be fewer trades that are unbalanced and people that have no idea of the values being exploited by the super rich traders.
The 11111 trade use to be funny, still just a trick. It was worse when there was no comma so 1111 could appear 11111 etc. Live and learn, I can look at TO all day and see trades like you are mentioning.
A scam is when someone advertises something like a Master Architect box for something and doesn't deliver ( or any other gifted item) or advertises a rtf loot spot and it hasn't even been started. Unfortunately you just got a bad trade in favour of the seller, these are common especially on days when free stuff is given out or things like the calender deliver nice stuff. Next big one will be rabbit lucky charms in a few days.
I saw someone boasting in the trade chat yesterday.
The person puts a fish in the TO at ls price (1500gc)
Posts on trade
[]WTSwap RB LS
someone rushed and buys what they think is the ls and messages the seller that they bought the ls.
Poster gloats on trade by posting the message of the buyer and saying -
[]I didn't advertise any LS sale, you just bought an expensive fish.
I wasn't involved, but it left a bad taste in my mouth that someone would be so manipulative.
that sounds like a scam to me
The OP's case isn't about scamming, but about opportunism. Whether you think it is fair or not, it is not "wrong" either.
That was probably the day that the calendar door dropped 500 beans. A player in the lv 20-35 range has no use for the beans. What they may well have is a shortage of coal, having built more and more coal consuming production as they get unlocked by leveling up. It can be argued that a player like this is happy to make that trade, although if properly informed he could have made a lot more coal selling his beans at a better price. But what the example illustrates is that the buyer knows what he's getting and willingly accepts the trade. You can't call that scamming even though most of our sympathies are for the nooby buyer just making a grand loss on his investment.
I hope someone has some screen prints of this and reports it, Not the sort of player the community needs around.Quote:
Originally Posted by JJahorn
i for one know if i put up a trade for a ls (let say) and someone accidently miss clicks it when they message me telling me what they done i would just refund the money and re-put the ls trade up....i would not say tough pal u lost your money and have to do the lootspot.
just proves the trader who i spoke to was a complete immoral noob whos happy to rob people blind nothing will change its just sad theres them kinda players on here.
Getting back to the initial question. The trade is not considered a scam. I advise every player to double-check what he/she is buying from TO before accepting the trade.
That being said, in general I would also advise you to look in trade tab first before buying a ls, since you need to know under which conditions you are buying it. Whether it is a RTF, a fast general or in the top case WT Swap LS.
If you feel that you have indeed been scammed, please remember taking screenshots as evidence of what happened. For more info, please look at this thread.
Cheers
BB_Namib
no-one shouId buy fish for Is price in T0 unIess has been advertised in trade channeI etc ur just asking for troubIe, best thing to do is use your head and work it out if its a good deaI or not before ur finger gets twichy
i think its just to see how far a player would go , so setting up that coal / beans trade was just to see if they could pull it off.. as the seller i think does know it would be hardly impossible.. but then again the seller also knew we got them in the event calender ( also low level players that do not know the sheet and or pricing of the matter)
so the seller just took a chance :)
these things happen allot during events or when we get goodies.. you can spot it even.
some time ago we all got lucky rabbit charm buffs , well the high level players where trying to get them for rediculous amounts of resources ( what is apealing for low levels) and then the same high level players sell them again for a lot of coins..
that is a bit how trde works ;) not really fair but if its getting sold its a trade ..
Plus, buyer beware, it would now take you 2 clicks to actually complete this trade, one to select, then another to confirm. Easy enough to check and get out of, unlike the old trade tab which used to 'bounce' just as you clicked, and you'd end up with something totally random.