Endless Copper Mines

As it currently stands, the upcoming Combat update will make recruits ::R:: pretty much pointless for anyone who can already produce militia ::M::.


I am sure many players are "delighted" to tear up the Bronze Sword production chains optimized over the months and years :mad:
That's not so much of a problem.

However, here comes the real problem:
The Endless Copper Mine is currently the most expensive item in the gem shop.
It costs €100 if bought without discount or €50 if bought with "Double Gems".
For 3 ECM, that's a whole bunch of moolah.


Now comes Bluebyte and decides on a whim that mid-high level players won't be needing them any more, effectively rendering them useless.

Question:
Will you REFUND REAL MONEY to all those who bought ECM in the firm belief that they would "pay off in the long term"?

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Originally Posted by Sharpielein

Question:
Will you REFUND REAL MONEY to all those who bought ECM in the firm belief that they would "pay off in the long term"?

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Nope.

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Originally Posted by EctoRune

Nope.

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I'd bet.

But that would leave a lot of people who invested €150+ into the game pretty upset, which -in turn- is probably not a good marketing strategy.

I wouldn't say even if the changes do take place the ECM becomes pointless, tool usage will become more pronounced as people will be building and upgrading a lot more iron mines. That being said I really don't like the concept of people laying out significant real cash that is influenced by very long term goals, only to find they shouldn't of bothered.

Be prepared for new and improved versions of iron mines to come into the gem shop at some point, will the people who bought ECM be as prepared to part with real life cash for those ?

as someone with a ecm this is actually something bb should address and refund accordingly atleast with gems

Anyone who invested real money into this game got exactly what they paid for.

I calculate that in order to produce enough nibs for manuscripts and bronze for tools to supply my needs I may require at least 4000 copper per day which is the output of one properly-placed ecm, and I rarely adventure nowadays so often have my bronze weaponsmiths sleeping.

When producing gold ore the requirement for tools can skyrocket, so I could imagine using the output of two (properly-placed) ecms in that case.

If I never needed bronze for weapons, a third ecm and/or copper mine production above the output of two would probably be wasted - maybe more tools could be employed by high-levelling iron-mines but that would be very hard work!

So if bronze weapons become outmoded those with 3 ecms will, in my opinion, over-produce, whereas those with one or two may still be able to use the output.

No chance of a refund.

But hey look on the bright side this will give BB the excuse to release endless iron mines that we can all pay for.

I have a great idea - let's hope BB think it's great too :)

By extending the use of endless copper mines so that they could be used for mining either copper or iron that would solve lots of problems at once - for example people with now useless ecms could simply destroy them to return to star then use them on iron deposits.

BB also have a great idea i am sure new endless iron mine only 60k gems....:P

I'd be happy with another 3 ecm for free

Or better still let us build something that converts copper ore to iron ore

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Originally Posted by VVidi

I have a great idea - let's hope BB think it's great too :)

By extending the use of endless copper mines so that they could be used for mining either copper or iron that would solve lots of problems at once - for example people with now useless ecms could simply destroy them to return to star then use them on iron deposits.

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That's what I was thinking: Turn ECM into "Epic Ore Mine" and let us upgrade them, then choose what to mine (Copper, Iron, Coal [not Gold - that would be bad]) - would make some players really, really happy and would keep them valuable post-upgrade.

I am about to put my 5th gem pit down and the plan was to start saving for ECM it would be really nice to get some definitive answers on BB's thinking on this situation.

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Originally Posted by Steve1077

Or better still let us build something that converts copper ore to iron ore

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alchemy, alchemy may we will all get alchemy

They could make ECM tradeable. Of course you wouldn't get as much for it as it will be less useful for higher levels, but it'd mitigate the losses somewhat.

Personally I would like to see the possibility of a PH or PH2 ability to convert Bronze Bars to Iron Bars, or copper ore to iron ore.

I payed for a veteran when i started to play and it is useless now, i didnt ask for my gems :)

lmao the vet general is so much not worthless...sure there are new generals but there are many place vets are needed....how else u do the 250b sacs on fairies...unless you dont do fairies which is another point....