The new "Normal" - Multiattacks, Combat unpredictable

The spam below is the result of eight (8) attacks against the same camp:

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a78...ckengalore.png

Note how this problem extends over a period of nearly 15 minutes - and for the record, between 21:02 and 21:04, I left the zone - so there may have been more going on and the option "Leave the zone and return" didn't help, either.

Now, don't call it "Lag", because here's my connection data:

Ping www.thesettlersonline.com [194.169.249.184]:
194.169.249.184: Bytes=32 Time=37ms TTL=244
194.169.249.184: Bytes=32 Time=36ms TTL=244
194.169.249.184: Bytes=32 Time=35ms TTL=244


This trash has been going on for the last 2-3 weeks and is making combat completely unpredictable!

agree!!!!

Same happened to me yesterday, not had it happen till yesterday though and i didnt leave the zone at all.

was a 50th thread about this really needed?

just send attack and go back home, wait for mails, no point watching as what u see is random and isn't whats actually happening.

this problem started when PvP was introduced.

The general walks approx halfway to the target, there is a momentary freeze and then the attack begins and loops for the duration of the time it would have taken for the general to really reach the camp.

It does not appear to be linked to any specific adventure; the longer the walk from garrison to target camp, the longer the attacks loop. It is particularly noticeable on Nords and FT adventures. If you transfer over a long distance a similar problem happens with the garrison building animation looping too.

I've only come across this issue when doing multiplayer adventures, usually when 2 or more people are on the adventure map. Not that it is a good thing, just my experience.

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Originally Posted by Kenolein

I've only come across this issue when doing multiplayer adventures, usually when 2 or more people are on the adventure map. Not that it is a good thing, just my experience.

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I had a looping garrison building animation on a 1 player Lost Skull only today

Seen it in Witch of the Swamp.

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Originally Posted by Sharpielein

The spam below is the result of eight (8) attacks against the same camp:

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a78...ckengalore.png

Note how this problem extends over a period of nearly 15 minutes - and for the record, between 21:02 and 21:04, I left the zone - so there may have been more going on and the option "Leave the zone and return" didn't help, either.

Now, don't call it "Lag", because here's my connection data:

Ping www.thesettlersonline.com [194.169.249.184]:
194.169.249.184: Bytes=32 Time=37ms TTL=244
194.169.249.184: Bytes=32 Time=36ms TTL=244
194.169.249.184: Bytes=32 Time=35ms TTL=244


This trash has been going on for the last 2-3 weeks and is making combat completely unpredictable!

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Those are your pings to www.thesettlersonline.com, what are your pings to the game server ?

Narcil tried that a few times, and I got mails to tell me my general failed, as the troops had reverted to the previous attack setup. so in my case going away and waiting has cost me a lot of high end troops :( so it is Better for me to stay to keep an eye on the generals, this way hopefully I won't lose so many troops.

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Originally Posted by unicornlinzy1

Narcil tried that a few times, and I got mails to tell me my general failed, as the troops had reverted to the previous attack setup. so in my case going away and waiting has cost me a lot of high end troops :( so it is Better for me to stay to keep an eye on the generals, this way hopefully I won't lose so many troops.

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Then try to allways unload all troops (and confirm) before reloading.
Also, never rush anything (ie click around a lot) as that will raise the risk of failed "server calls". Listen to the drums (silenced) when sending multiple generals to attack - don't do it Evil_J-style.

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Originally Posted by SmurfAsH

Then try to allways unload all troops (and confirm) before reloading.
Also, never rush anything (ie click around a lot) as that will raise the risk of failed "server calls". Listen to the drums (silenced) when sending multiple generals to attack - don't do it Evil_J-style.

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Yeah, great way to play the game:
Log in (takes 2-3 minutes), go to adventure, (takes 1-2 minutes), load troops onto a general, wait (1-2 minutes), send general, wait until the multiattacks are over (15-20 minutes), wait until the general returns home (1-2 minutes), unload troops, wait (1-2 minutes), proceed to next attack by starting from step 1.

Mhm, but I guess this is how Bluebyte expects us to play the game these days.

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Originally Posted by Sharpielein

Mhm, but I guess this is how Bluebyte expects us to play the game these days.

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Or not do adventures at all due to those losses
But what do we know, this bug doesn't seem to be worth looking at, because people don't report it. Too fed up with the replies they get from support

I reported the bug and the reply was pretty much on the line of "Just don't play like that, then"

360 elites and 150 cavs dead from bug, who sucked the jam out of my doughnut. This is not fun anymore.

I am pretty sure it's not just looping but transactions going rampant.

In the past week, I had 2 more "funny" incidents:
1 time, a retreat was confirmed by the server, the general was already retreating, but then I receive, 30 seconds later, "Your general is attacking": 230 crossbows dead.
Today, I had the bug "Assigned troops change after general has been sent": lost 83 cannons in the ordeal.

I guess adventures are now close to unplayable with all the bugs currently going around.

i used to send several generals out to kill different camps, simply speed up, funny things happen when you do that, not even to mention blocks.
Go to home island in the middle of an attack leads to a disaster
I know mistakes can be made, but i have seen intercepts, without warning, that make no sense at all.
I normally did several adventures a day, due to this maybe 1 or none.
Maybe it's BB's way of making sure we lose elites and cannons, so we turn on those smithies :p

I think the first think which need to do BB when go back on work is to solve these serious issues which appear after introducing of PVP.
Everything of this is for normal adventures.
1: Multiple attack on the same camp from one general. There is 3, 4 even 9 reappearing of attack. Really unpleasant situation.
2: Strange behavior on generals - jumping, slowing or fasting or going back and forward even AFTER fight is complete. Especially if on adventure are more than one player. Very serious bug.
3: Serious lag after more than one player is on adventure. Until there is one player is ok, after second situation going bad, if there is a third the lag is unacceptable high even in not busy times.
4: Missing of attack click on camp because of popping of icons. There is sometimes need to click - 2 or 3 times before attack start. This issue appear after popping icon feature introduction.
All of there problems made (for me) playing of adventures very unpleasant feeling.
Please let moderators do not unify this topic to others with same problems because I really hope that BB will read this because of serious importance of topic. Thanks.

seams alot of problems are with blocking camps and inviting players, best to kill all camps, no blocks, then invite players when one camp left, let them confirm mail kill before finishing

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Originally Posted by Salem_Warrior_1

seams alot of problems are with blocking camps and inviting players, best to kill all camps, no blocks, then invite players when one camp left, let them confirm mail kill before finishing

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Won't help, the problems in the initial screenshot happened while I was still solo. And there were no blocks involved.

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Originally Posted by Salem_Warrior_1

seams alot of problems are with blocking camps and inviting players, best to kill all camps, no blocks, then invite players when one camp left, let them confirm mail kill before finishing

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Best to not play adventures eh? I mean then you would not have 1 single problem eh?

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Originally Posted by CrazyBat

Best to not play adventures eh? I mean then you would not have 1 single problem eh?

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There are workarounds, though if someone tries everything but still fail then you're probably right.

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Originally Posted by SmurfAsH

There are workarounds, though if someone tries everything but still fail then you're probably right.

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I had a shop and it worked great. I had many customers and I played on their emotions of community and belonging. I was earning bunch of money. It worked so great that I thought I can do minimum work in order to please them, I never fixed anything. I had a broken window for 3 years and everything was fine. Those that I was most close with would defend me by saying that broken window doesn't affect you if you have a coat. One old lady asked if I can close or fix the window, I told her that there are workarounds and that she should maybe ware a scarf. It worked. Now I'm closing the shop down because some idiot has opened a store next to me, he fixes the windows and treats his customers professionally. [removed]

Hello CrazyBat,

Please don't use profanity on the forum.

Thank you,
Fexno

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Originally Posted by SmurfAsH

There are workarounds, though if someone tries everything but still fail then you're probably right.

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Workarounds are not supported, I'd think? Wasn't it BB common stance that "If you don't do it the way we provide it, at best it's your fault if it goes wrong"?

Add 1 and 1 together and you come up with a product that works neither as intended nor as designed and then blames users for faults.
Time to sick the BBB at BB :)

Dear CrazyBat and Sharpielein,
I responded "Best to not play adventures eh? I mean then you would not have 1 single problem eh?".
If the way you've been doing things are not working, you'd better try to adapt and try something else.
What do you think you'll acomplish by whining here and flaming players that do post possible sollutions?

No one asked for workarounds.
I know them all, revisit adv. window, relog, turn computer on and off, go outside smell the fresh air, come back turn computer on again, destroy the well, turn your iron mine on and off, click your provision house tab for buffs, slap yourself 2 times while watching the mirror and saying blobadybloo.....the thread about techincal side of the game and bugs does not ask for workarounds and watnot but for fixes.

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Originally Posted by CrazyBat

the thread about techincal side of the game and bugs does not ask for workarounds and watnot but for fixes.

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And spam is the way to go? How many more posts and threads do you need to comment same issues?

Interesting.....my posts bother you but millions of bugs don't. You are not obligated to read my "spam"

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Originally Posted by CrazyBat

Interesting.....my posts bother you but millions of bugs don't. You are not obligated to read my "spam"

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No substance as usual.
Go on and it's just a matter of time til you're not obligated to post anything here.

Well mr. substance, your indepth posts with workarounds that most people know about but are also unpredictable and sometimes work the other times don't are for some of us also in the category of spam since they are pointless and anoying, but keep it going.

They are not unpredictable, but like whipping a dead horse they are pointless to tell people like you.

If you can not predict do they work or not they are unpredictable, mind that english is not my first language but I know you are getting every single point I make. That is why you are so upset at me.

I'm not upset, but you're ignorant.

You sure sound upset, ad hominem is a nice touch.

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Originally Posted by CrazyBat

You sure sound upset, ad hominem is a nice touch.

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You can't make it and tries to convince all and every that's the same for everyone.. Reread my first post in this thread.
Peace.
Out.

Reread my store allegory.....

There are numerous situations when bug just jumps out at you and make you lose troops that 10 loots don't cover, there is a bug when invite gets locked because recipient never got it and it won't expire so you lose CLT lootpot swap. There is a triger that when lootpost buyer comes to adventure he trigers the bugs and you can not control will 1 of them come to see adventure in the middle of your block, attack or wathever. Point is, you do not have control over the game. Do you understand?
Yes, all of them have happened to me in last 2 weeks.

Sits down with large bucket of popcorn

ive done rb,mse no probs
work around on BK and BLT works..kill kills and miss two blocks
yes its not perfect and the anoying gen loops here
im not gona let it stop me playing, i enjoy the game
posting work arounds is constuctive feedback and for that i thank you all
keep up the good work

Ive had the locked zone on Nords, lost troops in bogus attacks, have the looping/graphics delay bug, had simple blocks fail etc etc etc.

I have tried to keep to less complex adventures and have simmed kills on camps that would normally be blocked. So yes there are many workarounds a player can do, but there are none for locked zones/lost invites etc I'm afraid, as the OP says.

Lets just hope the devs priority for January 2015 is making the game as playable as it was before 26.11.2014, if not better, by solving older bugs as well.

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Originally Posted by SmurfAsH

They are not unpredictable, but like whipping a dead horse they are pointless to tell people like you.

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I can't go into this too deeply but in essence, even BB admitted that they are unpredictable: players are given false information by the game on occasion.