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When i kill leader camp a i don't get PVP XP for whole sector
it's that bug or new feature?
i get PVP XP only for killed units not for whole sector.
also is same for other players.
BB this is bug or feature?
EDIT: BB must learn how game works. i will not explain how i know this.
uff was killing all leader cuz thought it works same as in adv... well when i did optimal way on small colony i got abit over 2k of xp without premium when i killed all camps in small colony i got 3k xp without premium. So thought it work same as on normal adv.
no it's not same, few more player like you and this bug will never will be fixed
same as undead war dogs witch you cant kill with 10 attack units. After attack they just revive and fight again... you have to send 20 units to kill 20 war dogs but other amount not work...
This is about pvp xp
confirmed from other players
pvp xp is connected with killed units
you don't get pvp xp for whole sector after you kill leader. it's not like in adventures
bug or this should work on this way (only bb can tell us)
When testing many expeditions on the test server it appeared to work the same way as adventures, where defeating leader camps cleared a sector and all XP was rewarded for the sector.
Just clearing the fastest route to the boss meant very little XP and valor points were rewarded.
As there is no communication from BB there is no way to know for sure if anything works properly, or when things are changed.
PVP xp you can test on that way. of course when you kill leaders camp you get more pvp xp because you kill more bandits, but you don't get pvp xp for whole sectorsQuote:
Originally Posted by Peajay
is same on test server.
now i will explain how you can test.
you have 1 sectors with 3 bandit camps and leader camp.
1. if you kill all 3 camps camp by camp and than leader you will have max xp.
2. if you skip all 3 camps and attack only leader xp will be much less and you will get xp only for killed units in leader camps not for whole sectors like in adventures
3. if you kill 1 camps and skip 2 camp and than kill leader, you will get more pvp xp than in case 2, but still less than in case 1.
4. if you do block you can block 1 (2 or 3 camps) and attack leader and again you will not get xp as in case 1, but will be higher than in case 2 because you kill some units with blocks
if you get xp for whole sectors after you kill leader you must get same amount xp in every case, but you will get every time different amount xp because pvp xp is calculated only for killed units
for all players, please don't comment anything if you not make proper test
Lack of battle reports makes it even harder to calculate how many bandits were killed, troops lost, camps blocked etc.
It is possible to test this quite quickly on the test server, by starting an expedition, killing with your different methods for just 1 sector and cancelling the expedition.
I agree it would make sense to give XP for whole sector in Colonies; as there are no exploiting blocks, free from losses.Quote:
Originally Posted by corona88
I've suggested following changes to "old Battle system"..
Quote:
Originally Posted by SmurfAsH
i not point here is this good or bad or what is better.Quote:
Originally Posted by SmurfAsH
we must know is this bug or this should work on this way.
i play colonies only because of PVP xp. to optimize my pvp xp/ losses ratio i must know
use notepad. it's simple to calculate because always is same number of enemies in camp.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peajay
also you can make 3 simple test with attack 1 time only cavalry camps and cancel, next only ranged and cancel and third only melee camp and cancel. to avoid confusion about different xp because of different unit type
Bandit Ranger, Rougneck, War Dog is 3 pvp xp per 1
Bandit Recruit is 1 pvp xp per 1
Bandit Bowman, Thug, Bandit Cavalry is 2 pvp xp per 1
leader is 50 pvp xp
I can confirm that my guild mate and I have observed the same thing. You only get XP from the camps (enemy units) you kill. Killing the leader does not give you the XP from the whole sector.
I think the Dev Diary clearly says that only killed units give xp.
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Originally Posted by BB_Ravel
really clearly??? why i get the pvp xp when i attack bandit expeditionsQuote:
Originally Posted by Durin_d
in your "clearly" quote is only for player occupied expedition islands
defeated and killed for me is two different things.
After you kill bandit leader all units in sector are defeated, not killed
Corona is right, we PvP XP only from the camps we kill, and for me there is no clear information from BB about how PvP xp is calculated .
My guess is, that this is a bug :)
you can see here amount of star coins is same but amount of PVP XP is different.
When i attack only leader camp i skip other camps in sector
http://i.imgur.com/ubztvKI.png
When i attack and destroy 3 camp and leader camp
http://i.imgur.com/dfViNV4.png
star coins works for whole sectros, PVP XP not
Excellent post corona88. I had a hunch on this. So as it stands now, even if it's not a bug I am still going to wait however long it takes until this is changed. I think risking all those resources/troops on doing some very complex blocks should be rewarded at minimum with experience. I'm just glad this was confirmed before I invested my huge stock pile of weapons into it. Thanks again.
When new pvp ranking features came out I took myself from 40/35 Strength (no idea how that's even possible) down to 0/35 for achievment reasons. So when it was time for me to go back up to Tier 3 to get serious into it, I was going through pvp maps so fast I didn't even notice. But I started too once I was getting back into tricky blocks again. The experience just wasn't coming through as I would expect.
I do not know where this information was gathered from, but i find the wiki very reliable: settlersonlinewiki.eu/ranking-and-level-system-pvp/
So xp is calculated from what you kill and seems to be intentionally this way and not a bug:
Experience
1 per player unit
2 per bandit weak unit
3 per bandit strong unit
50 per sector boss
200 per map boss
again player with only half informations and wiki have a lot mistake.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kit_
also on wiki nothing say about how you can collect pvp xp, only how many you can get per units
for example for bandit recruit you get only 1 pvp xp per unit.
wiki info is 1 pvp xp per unit is only for player unit.
Now you've told me something I didn't know. Different kinds of units give more/less xp... Wow. I too had assumed the wiki was authoritative.Quote:
Originally Posted by corona88
that wiki seems to be using google translate and borrowed text ..
BB never releases the information you are asking for, it is always collated by players such as yourself, testing and then putting it in a wiki or forum. As more information is gathered, the more accurate it becomes. I doubt BB will release the specifics of pvp xp, although I agree it would be extremely useful to know.
And with regards to the ' 1 pvp xp per player unit', this seems to be in regard to if your colony is attacked, you get 1 xp for every troop the other person loses.
I just successfully defeated someone attacking my colony, they lost 384 troops total, so I got 384xp, plus valour points.
BB must say did we get xp for whole sector when we destroy leader or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kit_
support said is bug, but i don't trust to support.
:)Quote:
Originally Posted by corona88
Also one more interesting subject - I wonder, why we gain from the expeditions normal XP points/star coins now, after this PvP progression is here?
Before it was ok, now looks wrong for me.
I think we should get XP for the whole sector when you kill the leader.Quote:
Originally Posted by corona88
I just completed a tier 3 large bandit-owned map. I got 4k XP. I lost about 1k troops.
Doesn't seem like much XP from a large map for the effort involved.
Anyone know the XP gained from killing merc troops?
2 pvp xp per 1 unit (for all 6 type)Quote:
Originally Posted by djnelson99
bigger problem is beceouse bb don't care for this. they know the player hard will check and see this.