halloween adventure rewards lowered/nerfed?

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05.10.15 22:31
CoffeePowered

halloween adventure rewards lowered/nerfed?

is this correct

The Adventures with pumpkins as rewards:

Slot – 60% / 25% / 15%
Gunpowder: 0, 10, 70
Lakeside Treasure: 0, 8, 28
More Secluded Experiments: 0, 14, 49
Motherly Love: 0, 14, 49
Pirate Life: 0, 12, 42
Raiding The Raiders: 0, 6, 21
Return To The Bandit Nest : 0, 10, 35
Sleepy Reef: 0, 8, 28
Stealing From The Rich: 0, 8, 28
The Black Knights: 0, 18, 63
The Buccaneer Roundup: 0, 6, 21
The Clever Little Tailor: 0, 18, 63
The Heroic Little Tailor: 0, 20, 70
The Siege: 0, 6, 21
The Invasion Of The Nords: 0, 12, 42
The Islands Of The Pirates: 0, 6, 21
The Nords: 0, 12, 42
The Sleeping Volcano: 0, 8, 28
Tomb Raiders: 0, 24, 42
Whirlwind: 0, 14, 49
Wild Mary: 0, 14, 49

a 25% chance to get pumpkins? if so BB what is the point of doing adventures when at the very best we will only really get pumpkins from doing 5-6 adv ?

almost seems like halloween is pointless ?

if seen the percentages for this game work and 25% isnt really in our favor heck even my 24% granite explorer searches only bring back granite maybe once after 5-6 tries o.O

so disappointed..

http://www.settlersonlinewiki.eu/eve...loween-2015-2/
05.10.15 22:36
corona88

http://forum.thesettlersonline.com/t...he-test-server
http://forum.thesettlersonline.com/t...l=1#post285830

be lazy to read forum....
06.10.15 01:28
MutantKid

Hmm, this is the only event where explorers cannot find the event resources which makes this the hardest event to get everything for free as a non paying player.

Lower ammounts from adv this year too and I don't like the look of that 60% no pumpkins stat. If that's true then it will be a struggle for most!
06.10.15 02:00
CoffeePowered

Quote:

Originally Posted by corona88

http://forum.thesettlersonline.com/t...he-test-server
http://forum.thesettlersonline.com/t...l=1#post285830

be lazy to read forum....

what about the links? your post had no info at all on numbers drops, you just complained ?
how is your post supposed to help answer anything in any way ?

that whole thread had no info on anything apart from its lower BB didnt reply

Quote:

Originally Posted by MutantKid

Hmm, this is the only event where explorers cannot find the event resources which makes this the hardest event to get everything for free as a non paying player.

Lower ammounts from adv this year too and I don't like the look of that 60% no pumpkins stat. If that's true then it will be a struggle for most!

it looks like its going to be very hard indeed
06.10.15 02:18
SwampHen

Just a slight correction to your maths.

60% no pumps. 25% + 15% get pumps = 40%.

Still not encouraging, but better than 25%.
06.10.15 05:02
Urd123

This would be an exellent way to help us get rid of all our Wild Marys, Arctic explosions and Co-op adv that fill up the star menu for most of us. But no - why these adventures??
Why not all adventures and then spice the ones we really don't like up with some extra pumpkins ????

the numbers on wild mary is not going to make me do that. It would have to be a 100% chance to get at least 100 pumpkins and a chance to get maybe 300 if in luck.

This can only be BB´s way to get us to use gems - less pumpkins from advs than we got eggs for easter, no pumpkins from explorers. I don't think the prices has gone down compared to last event.
06.10.15 05:43
Dorotheus

Maximum noise, no information content as my old science teacher used to say.

You scream about the percentages as if that's a bad thing. Have you asked yourself if that 60%,25%,15% is any different from previous years, have you presented us with that information so that we may make a judgement for ourselves.

Fact: Easter 2015 was the first event where I ran adventures to purposefully obtain event items, yet in all the events in 2013 and 2014 I obtained 10's of thousands of event items and have not had to trade for them either. The only adventure's I ran during events were for leveling up, guild quests or to help guild members.

Fact: The list of adventures to obtain event items has been known to change from what was seen on test and what we actually got on the live server's. Like those times when that happened the players on test have asked for a change, only time will tell us that. That sites information has been proven wrong in the past and of my last checking contains wrong information about guild quests and in this case provides us with a incomplete list of adventures known to drop pumpkins from test.

There is a simple formula for calculating drop amounts based on the difficulty of the adventure (shields) for this upcoming Halloween it looks like it's going to be 0, 3x, 9x where as last Halloween it was 0, 4x, 10x. It would appear that the numbers in that list are a mix of last years drops with some from whats been seen on test and includes a few typo's as well.

I also note that a few adventures known to have dropped pumpkins in this years test are missing from the list but I don't think many will be running the new adventures for pumpkins, even fewer will have the new troops to do them without wiping their army's out.

I suspect the lower drop amounts are BB's response to the fact that we can run those adventures faster and with less troop losses compared to last year. Comparing last year with this years test I can see a 18% gain in pumpkins per troop loss if I choose to run the right adventures.
06.10.15 07:23
stonewaller

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dorotheus

Maximum noise, no information content as my old science teacher used to say.

You scream about the percentages as if that's a bad thing. Have you asked yourself if that 60%,25%,15% is any different from previous years, have you presented us with that information so that we may make a judgement for ourselves.

Dorotheus you posts frequently intrigue me, I do not have the information or facts to really argue although you do sometimes seem to drop in factoids out of the blue and expect us to accept them. Which may be fair enough.

I am intrigued (elsewhere) by the notion of 38million xp a day (or something... trying to remember the exact figure off the top of my head sorry) I do not question that it might be possible . Presented without evidence I have spent a little time trying to work out how. I do not say your arguments are wrong, but where is the evidence....

Here you can see an 18% gain if you choose the right adventures. You might, but could you enlighten us? Again I am in no position to say you are wrong because I do not have the evidence on which you place your assertion. I would suggest however that ultimately it is not really information on which we can 'make a judgement for ourselves'. I can see that with extra generals etc we can run adventures faster but a little enlightenment as to how you come to 18% would maybe add weight to your argument.

Also I hope you don't mind me pointing out but whilst I cannot remember last years drop rates I can actually see (assuming we are using coffee powered's figures) this years rates appear to be 0,2,7 x difficulty level (except TR seems wrong) and not 0,3,9 as you have 'calculated'. I guess you made a mistake, I frequently do, but we are supposed to believe 18% as scientific, as information and not noise?
06.10.15 07:37
Urd123

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dorotheus

Maximum noise, no information content as my old science teacher used to say.

You scream about the percentages as if that's a bad thing. Have you asked yourself if that 60%,25%,15% is any different from previous years, have you presented us with that information so that we may make a judgement for ourselves.

Please - we are entitled to have a different opinion from what you have. No one is screaming. Start showing some respect for other players and use a more appropriate tone.
06.10.15 09:21
Brayarg

I have to agree with Dorotheus, Some of the test information has been proved wrong time after time, it should never been taken as gospel. I would also have to agree on that I/We can farm faster this year than last year, So in truth just looking at a segment of information and ignoring other key information doesn't give a fair reflection of the event.

Urd123, pumpkins should really have increased in value this halloween, not gone down.
06.10.15 09:41
Dappadon

I would guess most of the event stuff not worth getting, for example it will probably work out cheaper to buy improved stores for gc rather then spend pumpkin on them. We just don't know yet but I would have to hazard a guess that pumpkins be around 100gc each this year, so if you want to buy an improved store for pumpkins in my opinion you would have to be mad.

But I also think that we should wait and see what happens, again I would have to hazard another guess that the event will start a week today.

One of the biggest things in an event is planning, for example a few of us are planning running tomb raiders just for lots pumpkin at a fast rate. I wish to point out that none of us are particularly happy with tomb raider due to terrible loot but what we need is pumpkin and the sketchy information we have now points to tomb raider be the adv to do to get pumpkin.

I also see in the build up to every event these same sorts of pre event whines that it to hard, well sorry maybe you should not expect to get every reward on offer.

And if above all else fails and I cant get enough pumpkins then I have a fail safe that I have been stockpiling for the last month (Halloween falls same time every year so again players should be planning) high end resources to sell to buy pumpkin regardless of how much they cost.
06.10.15 09:47
lordloocan

As always what will be will be. No matter how much folks grumble here and end up arguing with each other BB will do what BB does, simples.
06.10.15 09:54
unicornlinzy1

Quote:

Originally Posted by lordloocan

As always what will be will be. No matter how much folks grumble here and end up arguing with each other BB will do what BB does, simples.

+100 lol :)
06.10.15 11:26
corona88

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoffeePowered

what about the links? your post had no info at all on numbers drops, you just complained ?
how is your post supposed to help answer anything in any way ?

that whole thread had no info on anything apart from its lower BB didnt reply

link on thread about halloween feedback and where we need to post feedback, not open new thread and spamming forum

Quote:

Originally Posted by corona88

i'm really disappointed with number of pumpkins in loot.
last year was adventure difficulty x3 and x10, this year is x2 and x7

one month we know numbers of pumpkins in loot
06.10.15 11:34
Mannerheim

I agree with corona that new threads here wont help as there is already existing for feedback or even more correct place, the test server that has its own forum and now new community manager to gather feedback related to upcoming things that are on test.
06.10.15 16:17
helsinki

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dappadon

One of the biggest things in an event is planning, for example a few of us are planning running tomb raiders just for lots pumpkin at a fast rate. I wish to point out that none of us are particularly happy with tomb raider due to terrible loot but what we need is pumpkin and the sketchy information we have now points to tomb raider be the adv to do to get pumpkin.

Maybe we will even get a guide for tomb raiders with MG + 4 x MMA + vet
06.10.15 16:52
Dorotheus

Quote:

Originally Posted by stonewaller

Dorotheus you posts frequently intrigue me, I do not have the information or facts to really argue although you do sometimes seem to drop in factoids out of the blue and expect us to accept them. Which may be fair enough.

I am intrigued (elsewhere) by the notion of 38million xp a day (or something... trying to remember the exact figure off the top of my head sorry) I do not question that it might be possible . Presented without evidence I have spent a little time trying to work out how. I do not say your arguments are wrong, but where is the evidence....

Here you can see an 18% gain if you choose the right adventures. You might, but could you enlighten us? Again I am in no position to say you are wrong because I do not have the evidence on which you place your assertion. I would suggest however that ultimately it is not really information on which we can 'make a judgement for ourselves'. I can see that with extra generals etc we can run adventures faster but a little enlightenment as to how you come to 18% would maybe add weight to your argument.

Also I hope you don't mind me pointing out but whilst I cannot remember last years drop rates I can actually see (assuming we are using coffee powered's figures) this years rates appear to be 0,2,7 x difficulty level (except TR seems wrong) and not 0,3,9 as you have 'calculated'. I guess you made a mistake, I frequently do, but we are supposed to believe 18% as scientific, as information and not noise?

Think we can both agree the reward is lower. Pre coffee calculation i'm afraid.

Assuming the information from test is right then this year the best adventure to run is BK again. Since last year they introduced the MoD general, those and the improved guides since last Halloween mean it's possible to run BK in half the time with about 2/3rds of the troop loss. The revised loot drops from last November take care of the additional pop loss per time period. As I recall it lasts years drops were 0,4,10. Putting that altogether means if you spend the same amount of time doing adventures as you did last year by my pre coffee figures is 118% pumpkins, by your figures something like 130%. This of does assume you get the same min,med,max drop ratio's that you did last year.