Clean up whole game ?

Hi,

The game is just filled with a load of pages of guilds that have like 3-5 or even less or a bit more members, that created in 2012 or 2013 and those players are inactive from so long time, and there is a lot of low level players that is lvl 8 or 7 or less and inactive from like 1-3 years, I think this will be good idea after like 4 years to clean up game from those accounts? maybe? like delete any inactive player from 6 months and less than level 10, and guilds like that ?

I think my suggestion might decrease the game lag or processing and make it a bit cleaner?


I don't think anybody will be comfort with sitting near person not clean up himself from 1 month so players in game not have a single shower from about 4 years :P specially with all those efforts that players made, so there is a lot of sweats, blood, dust and so on :P

If only it was that simple.

Several questions have to be asked. Why are the accounts inactive, was it by choice ? Is there a legal requirement to maintain the accounts of inactive players?

I don't think these inactive accounts do have a performance hit on the game, I would think if the game was that badly programmed that by now it would have broke the game badly enough for it to have been down for days if not weeks while it was fixed.


As for guilds perhaps we need some sort of auto disband for inactive guilds, I suggest using the succession system, if it rotates round so that the player who originally triggered the succession regains it without being active in the interim then the guild should be disbanded.

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good idea Dorotheus
it should defo clear a big portion of guilds list in the course of few months after all the successions end their cycle unanswered :)

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Originally Posted by Dorotheus

If only it was that simple.

Several questions have to be asked. Why are the accounts inactive, was it by choice ? Is there a legal requirement to maintain the accounts of inactive players?

I don't think these inactive accounts do have a performance hit on the game, I would think if the game was that badly programmed that by now it would have broke the game badly enough for it to have been down for days if not weeks while it was fixed.


As for guilds perhaps we need some sort of auto disband for inactive guilds, I suggest using the succession system, if it rotates round so that the player who originally triggered the succession regains it without being active in the interim then the guild should be disbanded.

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Good idea about guild auto disbanded

but about inactive players, it may effect of performance if you have indexing, or any loop to retrieve data from database or something, bad code indeed might broke the game, as well as if this bad code was iterate the players, imagine the select statement for database search in big index or rows what it will become if this getting smaller.

The auto disbanding of guilds I'll go with but do you really want software running that auto deletes characters, I think not. Too much can go wrong and where do you draw the line, many people don't log in for 6 months or more with RL problems and health problems.

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Originally Posted by Bluesavanah

The auto disbanding of guilds I'll go with but do you really want software running that auto deletes characters, I think not. Too much can go wrong and where do you draw the line, many people don't log in for 6 months or more with RL problems and health problems.

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Most of software doing this, and it's not risky to do, and I think if they just removed players lower than level 10 "AND" inactive for 6 months "AND" they payed nothing then delete it.

Even if player decided to back after 6 months is level 10 is hard to get it back? :)

BTW I was inactive for like 3 years and back to game, but left game with level 42, sure i would be mad if deleted because its high level and hard to get in short time not low level. that get level 10 in 1 day.

Also you have to take into acount the paying players. Unless they change the EULA to explicitly say that the acount would be removed after X amount of time they could not just delete your acount, specially if you buy gems. Not unless the game was to shut down for good.

A little while back I was somewhat surprised to see that a inactive guild member had received a open guild quest despite that not having logged in for about 8 months.
We have also had problems with the game thinking your the guild leader of a guild you have never been a member of. We have also had problems with players who accounts have been reset due to a bug. There is a lengthy thread about one poor guy and how BB offered a very poor compensation package.

Given the above examples would you trust a delete inactive accounts script. If the worse should happen history shows us your up the proverbial creek.

And of course, the biggest reason for guilds going inactive, the bugged GQ system.

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Originally Posted by Dorotheus

A little while back I was somewhat surprised to see that a inactive guild member had received a open guild quest despite that not having logged in for about 8 months.

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Sandman's Powder does this to inactives, I buffed a long forgotten guildy and he went active.

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Originally Posted by Bluesavanah

Sandman's Powder does this to inactives, I buffed a long forgotten guildy and he went active.

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We do have one indicator of when somebody actually did log in, the last login on a players members page. A quick check with my former guild leaders page shows that nothing done their his island changes that. My guess is that info is used by the guild succession mechanic.

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Originally Posted by Dorotheus

We do have one indicator of when somebody actually did log in, the last login on a players members page. A quick check with my former guild leaders page shows that nothing done their his island changes that. My guess is that info is used by the guild succession mechanic.

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If you mean the forum profile page, that time has nothing to do with the game. It shows when the player last visited the forum. There are players that don't even have a forum profile.

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Originally Posted by Durin_d

If you mean the forum profile page, that time has nothing to do with the game. It shows when the player last visited the forum. There are players that don't even have a forum profile.

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Hmm guess it must depend on how they log into the game then, if it's via the front page it gets recorded on their forum profile by the looks of it. Point is it's not a simple black and white answer to the question. Not only do we have Actives and In-actives but we also have players who inhabit a grey area in-between for example those whom's islands are kept awake or re-awoken by buffing, those who stay logged in 24/7. No doubt we would find other shades of grey if we looked.

Don't need to look very hard Doro, the login awards can glitch. On a couple of occasions, I have logged in, done about 30 mins maintenance on island and found the next day that login awards have been reset to Day1. Unless it's blatantly obvious that it has credited, I have now got into the habit of refreshing or logging back in until the popup proves that it has registered.