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Ever since we got XXL some of the achievements have puzzled me, for example the Master Breeder achievement which calls for a production of 1500 Battle horse/12h. Why would we need to produce Battle horses 3.5 x faster than they can be converted into troops in the Elite Barracks and that's with 4x buffs on the Elite Barracks.
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Originally Posted by Dorotheus
Wow I just was thinking about post same post lol, yeah this is strange and You can only get this Achievement with level 6 elite stable, 5x buff with 3 flags away from storehouse, I wonder how they got this number.
platinum swords have more use, only 500 / 12 hours needed for Achievement !
You gotta be kidding me. That seems rather extreme.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dorotheus
Wait untill you see the pathfinder quests that ask you to recruit 100 cannons 100 elites and 100 x-boman for it... lol
looks to me as someone forgot to remove the 1 after they typed it by mistake ;)
Hey guys,
Thank you all for your feedback regarding the Master Breeder Achievement. I have sent your concerns through to the devs to see if this is intended or not. I'll update this post when I have more information.
I would recheck the maths. A level 6 elite stable buffed x4 eg whips and carrots maybe even an elixir at most, fulfills the quest and my stables 4 or 5 steps from the store
5 steps (40 seconds added to production time) is OK, but you need level 6 anyway, even with 4x will not work (1364/12h in this case), you need 5x to make it (1705/12h in this case)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dappadon
Level 5 with 5x buff you get 1421/12h
So you can do it off 1 e stable is my point, by the time you built the stable to level 6 you will have a load of elixir buffs in your star. it was same for arqubus, you need a level 6 buffed elixir to achieve the 500 arqubus every 12 hours.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheVictorious
Its in the achievements and clearly the devs have thought it through and its achievable with 1 building so whats the issue?
the issue mentioned in original post itself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dappadon
Dependent on troop build a skunked level 6 e barracks can eat upto 1300 battle horses a day, also some players like to produce extra and sell them on TO. So a level 6 e stable x2 buffed wont provide enough horses to run your barracks at times. Where the OP has worked out the 3.5 x the amount used barracks i have no idea so again whats the issue ?
Read my original post it's not the Elite stables which are the issue, If you have the resources you could build a bunch of level 1's to produce enough to get the achievement. The problem is producing Battle Horse at that rate is far higher than you can use them to make troops.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dappadon
Yes you could try selling BH produced in such numbers but since it is a common goal everyone will trying to produce the same numbers, this means the primary market is those players who are building up to do their first Woodcutter, once they have done that they get the resources they need from loot, meaning they will be one off purchases by some players, some other players will obtain the Plat Ore they need by other means to make their first batch of BH in-house. the rest will rely on in-guild generosity.
Your example of a skunked level 6 E-Barrack may have one flaw. Going by the tends on Sandycove's market when XXL came out we had large stocks of both skunks and banners but since XXL came out we have been using both at a rate far higher than the spawn rate of banners. Even then your example your only using 43.3% of your BH production. Need I mention that the wheat used by the remaining 56.6% BH you can't use could be turned into 680 settlers a day.
Thats same as all the quests though and achievements eg I would have had to build a load of cannon forges im not going to ever use again for the cannon quests or achievement or can build 1 and buff it x4.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dorotheus
Im not disputing your reasoning that its extreme but no so more then earlier quests. But again some players may prefer to run these buildings say with bags off snow then they sleep, some players prefer to run them non stop like me and just use roasts.
Again its an achievement and its only a case of you need 1 building or if prefer can build a load of lvl ones like you say but its not unique to battle horse production its a fair few like cannons xbow and dama swords to name but a few. A different post in this discussion mentions plat swords are more useful but as you build mainly mounted swords and knights then you need double the horses you do swords.
Personally I find the achievement to build roads pointless but it does not affect the game in anyway by not building roads.
Achievements if you want to do them not about make more faster than can use them etc they just to see if you can do it if you want to for some achievement pointsQuote:
Originally Posted by Dorotheus
don't need 5X buff on elite stable if level 6 can use the whips carrots ones depending how far from a store house you are they 4x buff and my luckys get me loads for free i did mine as i had at time 2 level 3 elite stables and put them carrot buffs on them so 1 level 6 with one should work also as quote below showsQuote:
Originally Posted by TheVictorious
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Originally Posted by Dappadon
This one below confusing me a bit as its not about the barracks having to use them its about the achievement to make them so the barracks using them to me seems like a "mute point" as not needed for achievement.
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Originally Posted by Dorotheus
Excluding making troops and trading does anyone know where being able to produce battle horses at such a rate would be advantageous ?
Clearly the idea of an "achievment" escapes you. It is in itself the reward. It serves the same purpose a car that can do over 200 mp/h does when you can't legally do that anywhere. It's not advantageous, nor does it have to be. It's an achivement. No one is asking you to overproduce horses indefinitely. It's a one time thing. Just don't do it if you don't see the advantage?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dorotheus
The requirements for this achievement have been reduced in the latest update:
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The achievement "Master Breeder" now requires a production value of 1,200 Battle Horses per 12 hours.
Some of the quests are odd. For instance, what use is it to have 2 x lvl 6 wheelmakers? Then this has been around for ages, such as the epic workyard - have 2 x lvl 5 exo samils so the epic can saw exo planks, lol.
Ah that one is easy, it depends on building placement. Depending on where you put your wheel-makers you will need two level 6 ones to supply a level 6 carpenter with enough extra capacity for any pay wheels quests which come your way.Quote:
Originally Posted by lordloocan
As for the exo sawmills glad I have them now I'm building salt n tit mines.
Since this thread's subject was specifically about the Master Breeder Achievement and it's been updated to reflect the feedback in the latest update, I'm going to close this thread.
If you have any other feedback regarding any other "Master of..." achievements, feel free to make a new thread to discuss it. Thanks!