Hi Blue Byte, Make My Money Worth It. I only have 3 MMA Generals. Will one day be released the sale of those 2 Generals that are missing?
Think about it $$$ :)
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Hi Blue Byte, Make My Money Worth It. I only have 3 MMA Generals. Will one day be released the sale of those 2 Generals that are missing?
Think about it $$$ :)
i have 2 and are pleased with that.;)
Just have some patience, as he is available in the Easter event
Why are you missing those two ?
You aren't ''missing '' them, you either weren't playing when they were available or didn't get enough eggs to buy them, that is why those who have played longer have more, as happens in any game.Quote:
Originally Posted by TiuBean
Ah, but will they? BB might change the general on offer to one of the new generals that come on stream at Christmas.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaiser-1
I have none on the other server I play on and until I got a major general before halloween and i got the drac and reaper that was the only fast gen i had along with my tavern generals
MMA's are good but not the end of the world if have 0 or 5 just adapt the way to play the game until you get more in the next easter events to come just think your lucky you have some at least and can always get more at a later date
agree adapt the way you play, i took time out so am actually "missing some as was not here at time" They like some of the decorations and 4th gold tower are the rewards of being long term player :))
I can understand why players who have been playing for short time is being inpatient. It is a long time to wait for something that may or may not become available.
Easy for us who have played more than 2 years. But they have been offered less often during last year than during my 2 first years here.
I think that old an new player and BB should think less about what is fair and who have played long time and what they deserve or not. We dont need to have a prize for playing the longest and we dont need to envy what others got as this is not a competitive game.
Think more about what makes the game fun to play for the players who play now. Having more than one mma does make the game more fun, in my opinion. I think it would be a good idea for BB to ensure that you dont need to play 5 years to get 4- 5 mma. Find a way to make newer players get some too without having to wait for years.
Settlers is all about patience, if you cant be patient find a different game. There is an mma in shop, I know it's a lot of gems but worth buying so you don't have to wait till easter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Urd123
I agree that newer players should be able to get same stuff as older players, but I don't have a 4th gold tower and i'm not crying over it! I would love another mma as I missed out on my 1st event here, but i'm not crying over it. headquarters looks cool, I don't have 1, but i'm not... u get the picture.
seems that what you are saying is, older players have spent 4-5 years acquiring all the stuff they have, but newer players should get the same in 12 months... pfft, have a word with urself.
That is not what I am saying. I am saying cut that rubbish about that you have to give this game 5 years before you get the stuff that makes it worth playing. If this was to give meaning - then find a game with a hall of fame.Quote:
Originally Posted by vigabrand
I really dont care about ornaments or headquarters and stuff like that. I am talking about stuff that makes the game fun, and makes new players want to stay. The new players keeps the game and the guilds alive, is one of the things that makes the game continue being fun for me, so I want them to stay and I want them to be able to have more than one mma without waiting 5 years.
We dont even know if we can get one more mma at easter as we dont know what BB is planning.
If they didnt have MMA in easter event then that would be unfair by BB on newer players so i cant see that happening and no its not about you have to been playing 5 yrs to get all the stuff to be "equal" the game is about patience if you havent got that then i dont think people will last long in the gameQuote:
Originally Posted by Urd123
also remember them who dont have mma do have a choice of 3 new generals in xmas advent calendar to choose from
sorry but when i 1st started playing there was only the tavern generals and vets and grims available the game has changed a lot since then so on this account i do have every general/specialist i think apart from 3rd mod for gems im not buying him thats been available since 2012 when i started playing that dosnt mean i actually use all off them
We didn't have many adventure guides if any back then, we didnt have a varied amount of generals back then we used what we had available and as we get more "better" generals we constantly adapt the way we play the game to suit them generals
Also events always give people things to aim for personally i always work along the lines of get people 1st in events then get other stuff that can be useful for way you play the game. what would be the point in giving all new players exactly same we older ones have sorry be we had to work hard put in alot of time to get what we achieved in the game so far not had it all given to us
this part made me chuckle a bit, the game is fun but had to be worked on why should you get everything handed to you straight away where is the goals in that?Quote:
I am talking about stuff that makes the game fun, and makes new players want to stay. The new players keeps the game and the guilds alive, is one of the things that makes the game continue being fun for me, so I want them to stay and I want them to be able to have more than one mma without waiting 5 years.
they can have more than one mma before 5 yrs if they choose to they can get one for gems as a start and if they got him in easter can have that or wait til next easter personally on other server account im waiting until easter to get my 1st mma and not getting gem generals on purpose yet.
and yes i do miss not having even 1 mma on other server as im so used to using them on this account BUT im enjoying the challenge of using other generals instead
Who else is mad enough apart from me to kill the archipelago island camps with tavern generals and normal troops? and i do have fun doing it as its a good challenge and yes it big troop losses but so what it all part of the game make troops kill them make more happens in adventures on island so part of the game
Not having a mma over there is not making me want to give up it gives me something to aim for in the long run all new players have to do is set them self goals if needs be to challenge them self in the game i do it quite often sometimes i pick stupid goals eg the how many mag res could i fit on my island and not kill no production lines which i did on this account and posted pictures so could help other people if the wanted of some places they may go
then my next challenge was start a new account to make lower level guides without all my massive army or generals and troops the lower level guides are still on going
not being funny but if like me you probably could do a VLT in 1-2 hours max "ish" say i got a great sense of achievement doing it on my other account yes it took me 3 days as level 42 and tavern generals only as had keep remaking troops but i did it with tavern generals only i felt so "proud" i think the word is that i managed it so lower levels should feel proud when they accomplish something in the game they should set goals to aim for and feel great when they reach them goals the game is more than just 1 MMA general extra or even having 1 at all, its about fun. and laughs with the TSO community in G1 and guild chats and making friends in game etc If you dont have patience in this game you wont get far its more than being just about 1 extra general if needs be and say you need to kill him for a suicide wave or something be happy he takes 2 hours to heal not 4 like tavern generals do
the game has evolved players will as they progress in the game and the longer they stick at it just takes time to get there but if your willing you will get there in time
Why are we going on about what new players have not got when the OP is a old player,
They have been offered only 1 time every year at easter since the first time they came into the game, just like the vet, mod, grim and ld´s only is offered once a year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Urd123
Maybe with the only difference of when they removed event items and all events stores was available at the same time, can´t remember if we could get the gens at that time.
That cant be. I dont keep a record of how I got mine - but started playing xmas 2 years ago and I have 4 mma now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Faststriker
Why do you bother what other have and dont have? It does not affect your game.Quote:
Originally Posted by lulu10093
Be happy about what you have and be happy that others can have some nice stuff too. Unfair or not,- it does not really matter.
This is not a competitive game - so why it is so important if someone was lucky enough to get something without being in the game for as long as you.
I bet you enjoyed getting with tokens the MMA for the easter event in 2014 and 2 extra luckies from football event 2014 and you do not even played the game , you started in november 2014, right ?.How? Midsummer night event that made possible to recover stuff from past events. I would love some of this too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Urd123
Again. Why is that so important to you. I payed real money also. It does not matter if I played the game for 1 or for 10 years. What matters is that people likes the game and have fun. It matters to me to have a mixture of new and old players in my guild that all enjoy the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Amazony
It is like you think we have to endure some sort of right to get stuff in the game by playing it for as long as possible.
You should instead be happy that new players want to be in the game. If no the game will die and BB will close it.
1 in 2015, 1 in 2016, and you paid for 1 , it is 3 not 4? if you got the 2014 one then 3 years not 2.Quote:
Originally Posted by Urd123
Have only had 2 Easter events - so only got 2 from there. I am old and forget stuff - but not that old :)Quote:
Originally Posted by TheVictorious
this is not about being fair / unfair.
the guy with OP (opening post) is not asking to have him start the game not from lvl1 but from lvl50..
He is asking to have the ability to have a few more of the most striking generals and i do agree with him on it.
someone else gives an example of gold tower that he was not crying why he didnt have the 4th, lol. Are mma and gold tower same things ? One is pretty much core of the gaming, other is something you dont even aware of if there are a few on your island or not.
Once we have old players, they are utilizing, benefitting from many already, technologically and so...
Of course we new players should have some ability to get bit close to them in fighting capabilities and for that we need more mmas. That is pretty obvious, no rant on it.
I have 1 mma, i bought it from merchant, has not seen or had an easter event. I started from lvl1 and now lvl 52... What then ? Soon lvl 60, what ? Am i supposed to have the pain of not having a few mma on my way to lvl 60 ? Pretty weird
Yes - I think I am what is called an old player, and I want players like hannybal to be able to play the game at the fullest and enjoy it so they want to stay. I cant see why it is some privilege you earn by being a faithful player for many years. It is a game . We play to have fun, if not we find something else.
What others have or dont have does not affect my game. But it affects me that new players do join and stay on. It keeps the game fresh for me also.
There are plenty of opportunities to get MMA - from Easter Event & 1 from Merchant.
As said b4 this game is all about patience and the ability to enjoy the game without the need for rushing
I am very content with 2 MMA as I started Feb 2016 and am at Level 65 atm
I am also very pleased with PvP having just reached Level 30 and received the 'black Marshall'
I am hoping to get all 3 of the newest Generals - 1 on offer this xmas event and the other 2 next year
What is there not to like about this game - all good :)
So that's 2 from easter events, 1 from gems and one from midsummer night event in ´15 Dev-Diary-Midsummer-Night-SpecialQuote:
Originally Posted by Urd123
Here is a suggestion, stop asking for what you mistakenly believe you need and think about what you really need and then ask for it. If your list of needs is less than ten different items sit down and think about it again.
I can see it from both sides i think you missed that point as here this account i do have a lotQuote:
Originally Posted by Urd123
My other server account I have 0 MMA and 'im still happy you just have to adjust the way you play the game and do it old school way like how us "older" players started and wait until easter to get a MMA generals
like i said when i first started the game MMA's were not even in the game
MAYBE this is why can choose one of 3 generals in the xmas advent calendar??? they never did that before they all have different skills to choose form what one you want to suit your game play bestQuote:
Originally Posted by hannybal
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Maybe he missed some events where he could have got the same number than us older ones have he is a older player (i know some people have a break from the game but that way you miss out it just simple really)Quote:
He is asking to have the ability to have a few more of the most striking generals and i do agree with him on it.
Answer to above basically yes you are. You started 2016 that not games fault so you wait til easter then next time they become available as you have the gems one etc or stop relying on MMA to be your main general the others do have uses alsoQuote:
Originally Posted by hannybal
ExactlyQuote:
Originally Posted by Dorotheus
actually, no need to repeat the existing ways again, again and again since i know i have got to wait.
thing is, this is a suggestion made and the word to suggest comes with something new in implication.
what and how does old (by old i mean players with more years in this game) players do feel i am not super clear but have my idea,
what in OP basically is something that we can purchase for. Not something to some portion of players, not something to some certain group, but it is what OP asking is something for everyone. Hmm, old players sure will not like to spend gems to have 4th MMA maybe 5th but it makes a big difference in my gaming flow since i am looking for 2nd mma.
BB takes it, doesnt take it is regardless, to me, the suggesttion has a valid and reasonable point.
What do we have with all points made so far is years, exprience, old players and years in game.
Dont forget ppl, the time you started the game you didnt have FTs, Alis, whatever but all those easy small adventures for which 1 single mma was pretty much enough to run.
So, for a game for a lvl50 cap, or say even smaller yes 1 mma is cool and enough, while for a game in which we have lvl70+ players around and adventures are like huge and extensive, 1 mma is not enough..
This post, has the main purpose to put this, no more not less, but it is not asking how high rankers you players might be, and your previous expriences whatsoever. Because it doessnt help :)
i understand the OP, its aim.
i dont understand why those who are opposing...
what are they you might lose or gain really ?
let BB read it and decide it.
'Some people' will never be happy :)Quote:
Originally Posted by hannybal
If someone suggest something 'some people' will always find a reason why that suggestion is not OK if that suggestion do not fit their needs or ideas :)
It's always like that on this forum :) U ask for more adv available, u ask for generals u ask for... no no no no :))))) always NO NO NO, beeee beeee beeee :D
Why should players that have only been here a couple of months have the same rewards as players have that been here five years?
they seem to think they are entitled to it maybe i dunno but this does not make sense as its not fair on older players that worked hard to build up generals etcQuote:
Originally Posted by Tierarzt
but again some new players seem to think they have the right and "need" to have it all now and not put in the patience and time in game others have.
the game takes time the game needs patience if you don't have that then your playing the wrong game in my opinion what i dont get is though the original post person started around same time i did so they have to of missed a event or 2 or something or would have 5 not 3 mmas,
The new players that want more than 1 now should i feel be happy they have at least one as a start and its 3 months ish to easter event they can get another one then or should be able to if past history of easter events anything to go by
Im looking forward to easter on the 2nd server i play on so i can get 1st mma i hope over there it gives me a goal to aim for not want it all now so game so easy that it has no challenge to it basically
May I suggest you talk to some of the old players and find out what the game was really like back then, It was a lot different from what you think.Quote:
Originally Posted by hannybal
When I started playing there was no such thing as an MMA. I played with only Tavern Generals for about 3 months until Halloween, when I obtained a Grim (no Drac back then) and it was another 5 or so months after that before Easter came round and I got my first general that held more than 200 troops.Quote:
Originally Posted by hannybal
Oh, and FYI, when Tailor adventures were introduced, the first folks to play them had nothing better than a Veteran, general-wise. So, I am sorry, but in that respect, at least, your argument is totally invalid.
On the flip side, however, I do believe the OP is requesting to be able to buy the 'missing' MMAs, rather than having them handed over on a proverbial plate, and I really don't see any harm in players being able to spend gems to obtain the MMAs they may have missed out on.
Major is way better then mma on ally adv you can start doing at level 56 no probs, I personally have only 2 mma and have never struggled.Quote:
Originally Posted by hannybal
As many players have said, your not competing directly with any other player so dont worry about what they have as it does not effect your game in any way at all.
Ok just for one minute assume BB grant us the chance to acquire gens we failed to get from events. What would be the actual mechanics of this.
They can't put them up for general sale as this would leave us exactly back where we are now as the old players who got the gens already would have the opportunity to obtain more. If they were offered for gems you could be looking at a total price of over 65 thousand gems, that's more than the price of 3 gem pits.
Do BB even have a record of which gens you missed. Are they even able to tell which of our gens were brought using event items or which we paid gems for. Then there is the question of why we don't have a particular gen, was you away from the game or was it that you was unable to acquire enough event items or was it that you choose not to buy one that event or that you decided other event items were more important to you. Should all cases be treated equally.
As you can see it's not a simple question of making them available, but also in a way which does not maintain the gap between the haves and the have not's. But also in a way which allows you to obtain them which works for all and not just the rich kids.
btw, when you were school boys, the way of education was totally different than what we have got today for our children.
to make the picture more clear,
back 2500 years ago, they did not even have papers and pencils.
since they did not, maybe we should consider not giving paper and pencil to our youth today who are at schools ?
because it might be unfair since you didnt have it.
when one want to see white in black he will be able to do it by saying in the nature there is not %100 white or black.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dorotheus
is it the fact we have ? maybe yes, maybe not.
what i do mean is,
the defense you are stating is sitting at the very extreme. Are you right ? Well that might work, but is your defense valid ? Pretty objective.
Back to topic, mma is not something that parties in this game should leave it at the corner forgetting it letting dust cover on it.
If it was so, then ppl wudnt call it easter event to be the best one many ppl are impatient for, once asked why so then the answer is MMA.
All of you, everyone very well aware of it. Another evidence for why MMA is one of the hardcore gens in the game is the numbers players hold.
BB giving thought over what it should be next guild market item, asking, running a vote whatever, and what you say is BB can not know, or will not care what i might be missing.
First of, i am not asking something to my very self but this is for everyone who may like to consider buying. Simple, we have a cap for somethings in merchant and one of those is MMA and this request is change it from 1 into 2 or 3...
Are you all, really serious ? In case this limitation changes from 1 into 2 or 3, it will be valid not only for me but for everyone.
Why are you prohibitionist this far is what i really dont see ... Because i didnt have, no one will have it. This approach is very primitive IMO. Bear with it folks. You can not stop the time.
above all, one last line i feel like to add is,
even though BB lets it be 2 mmas instead 1,
i still am unsure if i will buy the 2nd one from merchant
then are you going to come around asking me if i was not sure to buy 2nd one then why i am writing to defend te OP this far ?
my answer is, the idea.
i dont like caps, limits, we didnt have so you can not haves, etc etc.
your games is yours i dont care.
your years can not form, or set a limit to my gaming, should not. Makes no sense.
then why are we given 1 mma in merchant ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tierarzt
maybe we should be given none and wait the easter to have our very first mma to fully equalize things fair and square huh ?
you have no word to oppose for 1 mma in merchant but when we speak out of it to be 2 then what changes ?