Pied Piper flutes - decrease their building time please

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23.01.17 10:29
Rhylian

Pied Piper flutes - decrease their building time please

Getting rid of all camps takes me around 1-1.5H. Nothing wrong with that.
But I honestly do not like that we have to wait an additional 2hours for those flutes to finally finish -_-.
I sincerely hope that gets decreased A LOT and soon ...
23.01.17 17:23
LordBosse

+1
23.01.17 18:23
Urd123

+1 - cant really see the point in have this long production time. Maybe it is to get us to use some barazeks ? :p
23.01.17 19:18
TheVictorious

+1
23.01.17 20:12
Dorotheus

Ok hate to do this but your going to kick your selves when I tell you the secret. Start making the flutes as soon as you start the adventure. You have until your ready to send the last attack to make them. If you have both a level 5 PH and a RPH this will only take you 96 minutes. No 2 hour delay required.
23.01.17 22:34
Syltom1

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Originally Posted by Dorotheus

Ok hate to do this but your going to kick your selves when I tell you the secret. Start making the flutes as soon as you start the adventure. You have until your ready to send the last attack to make them. If you have both a level 5 PH and a RPH this will only take you 96 minutes. No 2 hour delay required.

The Rarity PH should make buffs non-stop. Only the normal PH is free to do something else. Also, some rat caves need to be removed as soon as possible to make room for lock and block formations.
24.01.17 06:41
LordBosse

That is exactly what I do and they still take some 2,5h w/o buff any then wait at least 1h for them to be completed, so the time need to be shortened anyway.
24.01.17 07:31

indeed
24.01.17 09:10
TheVictorious

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Originally Posted by Syltom1

The Rarity PH should make buffs non-stop. Only the normal PH is free to do something else. Also, some rat caves need to be removed as soon as possible to make room for lock and block formations.

enough to reply Dorotheus

+ for me I would be done from this adv in 96 :) so 96 min production time and add the time to finish adv!
24.01.17 09:18
Sharpielein

I take about 2-3 days for each Evil Queen adventure, so I'm not in a rush.
Yet, the production time seems excessive - considering all other adventure buffs are like 2 minutes each.
25.01.17 18:23
Urd123

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Originally Posted by Dorotheus

Ok hate to do this but your going to kick your selves when I tell you the secret. Start making the flutes as soon as you start the adventure. You have until your ready to send the last attack to make them. If you have both a level 5 PH and a RPH this will only take you 96 minutes. No 2 hour delay required.

My rph is always busy so I cant use that. We also do have players who dont have one. In my upgraded p-house it takes exactly 2 hours 40 mins to make the flutes.
25.01.17 21:28
Xibor

I played this for the first time yesterday. I only had the PH available. I started the flutes then began attacking. With the rat caves still present it was a little hard getting the generals where I wanted them, but I managed and took it all the way to the final camp. By that time the flutes were ready - I took care of that part of the quest - then all the other quests showed completed in turn. Then I took out the last camp.

So while the flute build time is rather long, it does help to do as Dorotheus suggests and start the flutes then do the attacks on the main camps. If premium isn't an issue then you could also just start the flutes before bed or work or whatever then finish later.
26.01.17 14:42
Urd123

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Originally Posted by Xibor

I played this for the first time yesterday. I only had the PH available. I started the flutes then began attacking. With the rat caves still present it was a little hard getting the generals where I wanted them, but I managed and took it all the way to the final camp. By that time the flutes were ready - I took care of that part of the quest - then all the other quests showed completed in turn. Then I took out the last camp.

So while the flute build time is rather long, it does help to do as Dorotheus suggests and start the flutes then do the attacks on the main camps. If premium isn't an issue then you could also just start the flutes before bed or work or whatever then finish later.

yes maybe so, but why do they have to take this long to make? -I can thing of any good reason. If there is not any - why not reduce it to something less annoying ?
26.01.17 20:27
Xibor

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Originally Posted by Urd123

yes maybe so, but why do they have to take this long to make? -I can thing of any good reason. If there is not any - why not reduce it to something less annoying ?

Build times vary a lot depending on what you are building. Perhaps it is a bit long. But start them building, do a couple attacks, use a couple flutes, etc. As to why these seem longer than other 'scenario' type items I have no idea but I figure just deal with it.
27.01.17 07:04
Rhylian

Sure I start the flutes at the same time as the adventure. And that saves a little time. But I don't block for example. I just kill all camps and I have enough generals to divide them over several places. So if G1 is your landing zone I will usually have another gen working on G2 or G3. Which means the camps go down really fast. And then I still have to wait ages for the flutes to finish. Yes could go do something else in that 1.5 hours. But leaving an adventure run for 1.5 for well no real reason at all grates on my nerves. I don't have to wait for my generals to recover (got enough to do all camps in one run) so all I am doing is waiting for those flutes to finish -_-. They are already expensive to make resource wise so why also so slow to make? I really do not see any use for those ridiculously slow crafting times.
27.01.17 12:09
Dragavon

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Originally Posted by Dorotheus

Ok hate to do this but your going to kick your selves when I tell you the secret. Start making the flutes as soon as you start the adventure. You have until your ready to send the last attack to make them. If you have both a level 5 PH and a RPH this will only take you 96 minutes. No 2 hour delay required.

So you never produce anything in your provision house? Where do you get your buffs then?
27.01.17 16:56
Dorotheus

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Originally Posted by Dragavon

So you never produce anything in your provision house? Where do you get your buffs then?

That you ask this question indicates you run a make what you need style economy, I use a replace what I use economy. Therefore the issue of PH/RPH not being available for Scenario/Venture does not arise.
28.01.17 00:44
LordBosse

As I said on page one, I start the flute making even before sending gens to the venture and still have to wait at least 1h, and that is when I take it slow, I don't block either btw, I and no one else should have to wait at least 1h to finish a venture because of slow venture buff making, so cut the making times, please
28.01.17 12:45
HFoC

or you could, you know, use a buff on R/PH
28.01.17 13:10
LordBosse

Why waste a buff when you have no intention to make other things in PH?
28.01.17 13:30
SmurfAsH

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Originally Posted by Rhylian

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I don't have to wait for my generals to recover (got enough to do all camps in one run) so all I am doing is waiting for those flutes to finish -_-..

Sure, you don't have to wait for generals to recover, but why not? You can save time in Elite Barracks by doing some sacrificing attacks..
28.01.17 13:30
Urd123

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Originally Posted by Dorotheus

That you ask this question indicates you run a make what you need style economy, I use a replace what I use economy. Therefore the issue of PH/RPH not being available for Scenario/Venture does not arise.

I really cant see why we all have to do things the same way. Some use p-house a lot some dont - and so what. As far as I know there is no right and wrong way to play this game.

The topic is the very long production time for those flutes. No one came with a reason why it had to take that long - so let others play the game the way they want to - and lets ask BB to please cut the production time.
28.01.17 14:58
SmurfAsH

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Originally Posted by Urd123

The topic is the very long production time for those flutes. No one came with a reason why it had to take that long - so let others play the game the way they want to - and lets ask BB to please cut the production time.

The related quest is given at the very start of that venture and may free up space for garrisons, so the long production time is most likely not unintended.