The million Euro question: Which is best for AB adv's? Do anyone have an idea?
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The million Euro question: Which is best for AB adv's? Do anyone have an idea?
From my tests both man generals are pretty decent for Raids. General concesus on test now is both man are best on all adventures with the lady being the weakest because of her unit count, but overal all generals are pretty well balanced.
generally all champion is bad for leader camps
For player which play only alibaba adventures
nusala is good for sacrifice (with 1R or X numbers of B/LB), but that means you can use him only one time per adveture
anselm is useful only for camp with unit with low HP or very is low amount units in camp. otherwise 150 units is huge deficit
Vargus is most useful, they allow us to us every time MM and B which is powerful
for players which play regular advetures. is much harded to say, becouse depends on advetures, but generally
Nusala is great general very powerfull, even more than MMA/MG (of course not on every camp)
anselm is useful only for camp with unit with low HP or very is low amount units in camp. otherwise 150 units is huge deficit, but still he will be more useful in regular adventures then in adventures with elite units
vargus is also very useful on this adventures, because dogs was big problem, with vagus dogs are useless
lower level player have much harder choice than high level player. High level player need all 3 general to have some benefit. lower level will be very happy with 1.
For me vargus is best choice, because he eliminates our biggest problem units with skill attack weakest target.
Thank you very much for the detailed summary, Corona, and since I do a lot of AB's, Vargus look like the choice for me... Unless they decide to nerf them even more.
That was based on my first tests, so maybe i miss something.Quote:
Originally Posted by LordBosse
generally all champion is bad for leader camps
tested all 3 in woodcutter. should be smilar in other
camp 80 swordwielder 80 Mouted Bowman (first camp sector 2)
anslem: 8MS 64K 78B (7MS 60k - 7Ms 61K - 8MS 64K 1B)
nusala: worthless
vargus: 40MS 140B (30-34-40MS)
MG: 10MS 135K 125B (8MS 56K-9MS 62K-10MS 68K)
camp 90 Swordclasher 80 Mouted Bowman (first camp sector 3)
anslem: 150K (74-76-80K)
nusala: worthless
vargus: 21MS 159MM (17-18-20MS)
MG: 240K 30B (57-62-67K)
camp 90 Mouted Bowman 90 Desert Marksmen (last sector first camp)
anslem 150K (78-80-86K)
nusala: worthless
vargus: 23MS 157MM (19-20-22MS)
MG/vet: 200K 50B (65-70-75K)
this only if you want destroy camp in one wave. nusala is only for sacrifice here. i don't test how many you can save when you sacrifice.
I do not want more generals, I am tired of new specialists, I want this game to make an app and remove itself from flash player..
I could imagine how many troops will be saved on Treasure of Knowledge with Vargus...
lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by TOcvfan
On any AB I imagine it'll save quite some troopsQuote:
Originally Posted by mrnjau
For any low-level player I would suggest VARGUS as the best choice :
- Can TRANSPORT more units in adventure, which is 180
- Suicide DAMAGE for camps where we use mma 1R suicide, The Black Knights for example, camp 100 Cav + 100 XB,
- Any Camp where numbers od last and strong attacking units, such are Cannon/XB/Bes, can decide the outcome of the battle. Final Camp in BK where we use more Cannons than R as defensive units (85R + 135 Can + MMA).
Need to test Suicide against Fox + Cav which attack our weakest units for Fairlytale adventures like VLT.
For rest of the Players, we need to make hard choice. Would not agree that Anslem is useless (HLT first wave would save me mma on the WT, mma 200 Cav+20S suicide substitution). If we add what its missed, that is Cav/KN (first attacking units), for suicide attacks I think its worth to have (Treasure Of Knowledge, Dark Brotherhood, HLT ...). I would like to see him loaded with KN/Cav against Mounted Bowmans or Horsemans where I use mma+220 Cav to kill Mounted Bowmans... need to test more. If any General does not have particular skill, does not mean its useless.
Nusala looks the best for me. I used it in YWC and it save me half of sent MS. I sent 40 MS, but 22 come to home. I have some XP in situation where I need to use not 40, than 20 MS, outcome can be to reduce even more MS all way to get losses of 0 MS !! For example, if camp can be killed with 20 MS + 145 MM, then reduce even more to 10 MS + 155 MM, losses of MS could be 0. Nusala can be used only if there is no "FIRST" atk units like Fox, Cav, Horsemans etc...Where I see his shine = any camp where Bowmans use in suicide form, HLT for example...need to test more.
To do test, use simulator, any fast G, I use Dracul and I load Dracul with 180/165 units to see outcome, then in Test server I send Vargus/Nusala/Anselm to see differences (Dracul vs Vargus/Nusala/Anselm). In all cases what ever Dracul can kill, any of these new Generals can do, maybe even better.
Gl.
EDIT
NUSALA + Bowman DEADLY against FOX !! HLT leader camp 1, 165 Bowmans kill all 50 FOX and few Bears too !! (VLT camp 12 need to be tested, save M units)
OMG !! :)))
NUSALA + LB SUICIDE ... :) EXTRA :) sorry :)
HLT camp 8 : prnt.sc/d7bsbj ... incredible
(from 60 FOX, Bowmans kill 50 Fox in wave 1 ...)
HLT camp 14 Nusala suicide LB kill all 90 FOX + 20 Bear...
Anselm 150 Cav atk on WT in HLT have same kill ratio as VET + 250 Cav ;)
(1+70+5 left in camp .. simulation on Vet is 68-80 Firedancers)