[Guide] Killste : Collected Adventure Guides by Various Authors

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Originally Posted by Killste

Outlaws

Adventure Infos:
Player Level: 36+
Difficulty: 4/10
Number of Players: 1
Duration: 4 days
Where to get?: Adventure seek with explorer or ?



http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/2...awsmission.jpg

http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/7...ardchances.jpg


http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/9923/outlawsmap.jpg

Garrison Settings with normal method without block:
Units need: ?
Units lost max: ?

Garrison Settings with block method:
Units need: ?
Units lost: ?



Tactical map
http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/8249/aaaye.jpg

This is Beta Version about Outlaws maps. I try to fix pictures and map end of the week. Map has not yet garrison positions to block 4A and 4B.
All blocks are extreme difficult
Use block general normal generals and atack general (that atack leader camp) battle hardened general

I tried to atack camp 5 with 2 waves while blocking camp 5A and 5B but is extreme risky so I will delete it in complete version.
There is possible to block camp 5B and atack with 2 waves to camp 5 but its not worth anymore , because you loose soldiers and you need 2 battle hardened generals.

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Did I misunderstood this blocking method? sacrificing lots of cavalries and Soldiers?

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Originally Posted by EvilDog

Did I misunderstood this blocking method? sacrificing lots of cavalries and Soldiers?

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Not necessarily sacrifising them. If the attack general can win the fight at the bandits leader camp before the block generals battle is finished, you get all units following the block general back. This means that you can save a huge amount of units......if you can time the attacks just right.

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Originally Posted by Saraptheold

Not necessarily sacrifising them. If the attack general can win the fight at the bandits leader camp before the block generals battle is finished, you get all units following the block general back. This means that you can save a huge amount of units......if you can time the attacks just right.

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Cool Now I get it thank you :)

But it still is very difficult. If your timing is a little bit wrong you will loose troops. If your blocking general has a to strong or to weak army, you will loose troops. If your attack general takes to long to win or if he looses you will loose troops. Sometimes it's just better to use recruit spamming or a combination of blocking and spamming.

Hey i was checking out your horseback adventure

and i don't quite see how you can only lose 36R maximum at camp 5

They have 90 Nomads and 90 Composite Bowman
And you are attacking them with 36R/1S/163LB

First of all there is no first strike and no last strike so there will be full damage from both sides

Nomads do 10-20 dmg with 60% hit
Composite Bowman do 20-40 dmg with 80% hit

so let's assume worst case scenario

90x 10 dmg = 900dmg equals (900/40) 22 dead recruits and one of them half dead
90x 20 dmg = 1800dmg equals (1800/40) 45 dead recruits

I've assumed worst case scenario here which you know Never happens.

I'm using this:
http://www.settlersonlinetools.com/e...e=90/nomade=90

as a combat calculator, but the strange thing is that this one says just like your guide that everything should be fine :D

So my question:
Did i miss something?
Am i doing the math wrong?
I've really tried and maybe i'm just stuck in my own reasoning but i can't see what i'm doing wrong

hope you can help me

kind regards,

Onberijkbaar

ah thank you very much, that combat simulator doesn't show that ;( and i've never done the adventure myself,

but this explains a lot :D,

ty,

Onberijkbaar

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AN UPDATED GUIDE FOR THE NEW PATHING CAN BE FOUND HERE.

Dark Priests
Veteran General
R/S/LB version

I got my veteran general last night, and I already love him! :cool:
I tried him out killing the Dark Priest today...

And sorry Killste, I'm still going to use SidV's map as a reference here, partly due the the camp numbering, partly due to the fact that I prefer killing all camps, for maximum XP! :)

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Originally Posted by SidV

Tactical map & garrison settings (R/M/LB Version)
Units need: 500R 194C 8M 170LB
Units lost max: 484R 19C 8M
http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/8...c13rmlb.th.jpg

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Note that I'm using a lot more soldiers than previously for this adventure!
Note also that this is based on solo playing.

You need at least 2 generals, one normal and one veteran.
You need to send troops 5 times.

Units needed, average: 373R 230S 249C 73LB (925 units in total)
Units needed, maximum: 386R 230S 249C 73LB (938 units in total)

Units lost, minimum: 332R 4C
Units lost, average: 371R 12C
Units lost, maximum: 386R 5S 18C


Game flow, garrison settings and losses (minimum - average - maximum):

• VETERAN - Must be a veteran general with 250 units
• NORMAL - Must be a normal (slow) general
• ANY - Can be any kind of general.

Note that, whenever a garrison consists of a mixture of recruits and soldiers:

• adding more recruits might increase casualties
• adding more soldiers won't change the outcome

http://static3.thesettlersonline.com...r/ornament.png

Move to garrison position G1:

The adventure starts with a method 2 blocking:

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/e...p5version2.png

Camp 5) 20 Thugs, 20 Guard Dogs [NORMAL: 17S (-)] {4 - 9 rounds of fighting, average 6.6}
Camp 6) 20 Thugs, 20 Guard Dogs, 20 Rangers, 1 Skunk [VETERAN: 37R 213S (27R - 32R - 37R 1S)]

1. First send your normal general from garrison A to camp 5 with 17S.
   This is optimised for maximum number of rounds, so do not change the number of units!
2. Then send your veteran general from garrison B to camp 6.
   You cannot be too fast, so send this general as soon as you can.

After this, clear the two camps to the east:

Camp 11) 60 Cultists, 20 Dark Priests [VETERAN: 10R 1S 239C (7R - 9R - 10R)]
Camp 12) 25 Cultists, 25 Shadowsneakers, 30 Fanatics, 10 Firedancers [ANY: 54R 71S (45R - 51R - 54R 1S)]

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Move to garrison position G2:

Camp 7) 30 Cultists, 40 Dark Priests [VETERAN: 1S 249C (-)]
Camp 8) 30 Dark Priests, 30 Shadowsneakers [ANY: 31R 31S (31R - 31R - 31R 1S)]
Camp 9) 30 Cultists, 20 Shadowsneakers, 10 Firedancers [ANY: 27R 59S (24R - 26R - 27R)]
Camp 10) 40 Cultists, 30 Dark Priests, 20 Shadowsneakers, 1 Witch [VETERAN: 61R 3S 113C 73LB (46R 4C - 58R 12C - 61R 1S 18C)]

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Move to garrison position G3:

Camp 13a) 30 Shadowsneakers, 50 Fanatics, 10 Firedancers [ANY: 31R (31R)]
Camp 13b) 50 Fanatics, 10 Firedancers [ANY: 171C (-)]
Camp 15) 40 Cultists, 40 Dark Priests, 40 Shadowsneakers, 1 Dark High Priest [VETERAN: 135R 115S (121R - 133R - 135R 1S)]

Thanks Tage, I think I will add full garrison setup to kill all camps, people like you, how want full experience point. thanks for your garrison setups :) Since Dp was my first adventure I kinda forgot to add extra camps :D

Bump!

A friend of mine decided to try out one of the newest adventures on the test server, and asked me for optimised garrison settings...
It took longer than I thought, and before I had the recommendations for her, she had already decided to cancel the adventure...
After all, the losses are huge, you only have 2½ days to finish it and the loot is crap in relation to the effort needed.
But, here it is...

Wild Mary

Adventure Info:
Player Level: 36+
Difficulty: 7/10
Number of Players: 1
Duration: 2 days 12 hours
Where to get?: Trader (shop) for 200 map fragments

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/e...yBelohnung.jpg

The only map I could find is a German one on Siedler-Vision, made by cAmou309. All credit for the map goes to him:

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/e...e-Waltraut.jpg

All camps are layed out sequentially, so there are few that can be skipped or blocked.

You need several generals, mainly due to the fact that a lot of them will be recovering after suicidal waves.
And you've only got 60 hours to kill all 22 camps...

Depending on the version below, you need to send troops some 13-20 times!

The four blocks used are all of method 2.

Four versions are presented below;

• NORMAL generals. Do not use blocks if you only have these.
• BHG - battle hardened general (at least one of them). 4 blocks used.
• VETERAN general (one of them). 4 blocks used.
• VETERAN general (one of them) with Crossbows. 4 blocks used.

Veteran or battle hardened generals are not needed for the first suicidal waves on camps that are taken in two waves.
Only for the veteran attack on camp 22 must all four waves be with veteran generals, thus also needing time for recovering between each wave.

NORMAL generals

• Units needed, average: 3440R 90S 580C 170B 129LB
• Units needed, maximum: 3513R 162S 580C 170B 129LB

• Units lost, minimum: 3220R 72S 578C 170B
• Units lost, average: 3439R 83S 578C 170B
• Units lost, maximum: 3513R 162S 578C 170B

BHG - battle hardened general

• Units needed, average: 2970R 90S 550C 170B 129LB
• Units needed, maximum: 3022R 150S 550C 170B 129LB

• Units lost, minimum: 2780R 72S 548C 170B
• Units lost, average: 2961R 83S 548C 170B
• Units lost, maximum: 3022R 150S 548C 170B

VETERAN general

• Units needed, average: 2550R 80S 470C 196LB
• Units needed, maximum: 2681R 119S 470C 196LB

• Units lost, minimum: 2319R 69S 466C
• Units lost, average: 2536R 80S 466C
• Units lost, maximum: 2681R 119S 466C

VETERAN general with Crossbows

• Units needed, average: 2250R 60S 470C 150XB
• Units needed, maximum: 2345R 100S 470C 150XB

• Units lost, minimum: 2031R 40S 466C
• Units lost, average: 2213R 56S 466C
• Units lost, maximum: 2345R 100S 466C

http://static3.thesettlersonline.com...r/ornament.png Camp 1

NORMAL general:
1) 80 thugs, 70 stone throwers [64R 3S 85C 48LB (50R - 58R - 64R 2S)]

VETERAN general:
1) 80 thugs, 70 stone throwers [56R 2S 165C 27LB (40R - 49R - 56R 1S)]

VETERAN general and Crossbows:
1) 80 thugs, 70 stone throwers [56R 2S 165C 27XB (40R - 49R - 56R 1S)]



http://static3.thesettlersonline.com...r/ornament.png Camp 2

NORMAL general:
2) 100 thugs, 70 stone throwers [100R 6S 80C 14LB (83R - 96R - 100R 5S)]

VETERAN general:
2) 100 thugs, 70 stone throwers [79R 2S 114C 55LB (58R - 69R - 79R 1S)]

VETERAN general and Crossbows:
2) 100 thugs, 70 stone throwers [79R 2S 114C 55XB (58R - 69R - 79R 1S)]



http://static3.thesettlersonline.com...r/ornament.png Camp 3 (CAN BE BLOCKED)

NORMAL general - not blocked:
3a) 80 thugs, 70 stone throwers, 30 guard dogs [30C (30C)]
3b) 79 thugs, 70 stone throwers [63R 3S 85C 49LB (48R - 57R - 63R 1S)]

NORMAL general - BLOCK (while attacking camp 4):
3) 80 thugs, 70 stone throwers, 30 guard dogs [1R 14S 185C (-)] {5 - 11 rounds of fighting, average 7.7}



http://static3.thesettlersonline.com...r/ornament.png Camp 4 (LEADER)

NORMAL general:
4a) 80 thugs, 50 rangers, 50 guard dogs [50C (50C)] {1 round of fighting}
4b) 79 thugs, 50 rangers [59R 3S 90C 48LB (46R - 54R - 59R 1S)] {2 rounds of fighting} - BHG if BLOCK on Camp 3

VETERAN general:
4) 80 thugs, 50 rangers, 50 guard dogs [145R 105S (114R - 131R - 145R)] {2 rounds of fighting}



http://static3.thesettlersonline.com...r/ornament.png Camp 5

NORMAL general:
5) 100 thugs, 70 rangers [100R 6S 80C 14LB (83R - 96R - 100R 5S)]

VETERAN general:
5) 100 thugs, 70 rangers [79R 2S 114C 55LB (58R - 69R - 79R 1S)]

VETERAN general and Crossbows:
5) 100 thugs, 70 rangers [79R 2S 114C 55XB (58R - 69R - 79R 1S)]



http://static3.thesettlersonline.com...r/ornament.png Camp 6

NORMAL general:
6a) 90 thugs, 70 rangers, 30 guard dogs [30C (30C)]
6b) 89 thugs, 70 rangers [87R 2S 85C 26LB (65R - 78R - 87R 1S)]

VETERAN general:
6a) 90 thugs, 70 rangers, 30 guard dogs [30C (30C)]
6b) 89 thugs, 70 rangers [67R 2S 140C 41LB (48R - 58R - 67R 1S)]

VETERAN general and Crossbows:
6a) 90 thugs, 70 rangers, 30 guard dogs [30C (30C)]
6b) 89 thugs, 70 rangers [66R 2S 145C 37XB (48R - 58R - 66R 1S)]



http://static3.thesettlersonline.com...r/ornament.png Camp 7 (CAN BE BLOCKED)

NORMAL general - not blocked:
7a) 100 thugs, 100 rangers [58R (58R)] or [50B (50B)]
7b) 75 thugs, 100 rangers [75R 5S 110C 10LB (59R - 71R - 75R 4S)]

NORMAL general - BLOCK (while attacking camp 8):
7) 100 thugs, 100 rangers [26S 174C (-)] {5 - 11 rounds of fighting, average 7.8}



http://static3.thesettlersonline.com...r/ornament.png Camp 8 (LEADER)

NORMAL general:
8) 80 roughnecks, 70 rangers [90R 5S 85C 20LB (71R - 85R - 90R 4S)] {3 rounds of fighting} - BHG if BLOCK on Camp 7

VETERAN general:
8) 80 roughnecks, 70 rangers [72R 2S 85C 91LB (51R - 62R - 72R 1S)] {2 rounds of fighting}

VETERAN general and Crossbows:
8) 80 roughnecks, 70 rangers [67R 2S 85C 96XB (48R - 58R - 67R 1S)] {1 round of fighting}



http://static3.thesettlersonline.com...r/ornament.png Camp 9

NORMAL general:
9a) 100 roughnecks, 50 rangers [50R (50R)] or [45B (45B)]
9b) 85 roughnecks, 50 rangers [83R 5S 62C 50LB (70R - 81R - 83R 4S)]

VETERAN general:
9) 100 roughnecks, 50 rangers [98R 2S 62C 88LB (75R - 87R - 98R 1S)]

VETERAN general and Crossbows:
9) 100 roughnecks, 50 rangers [81R 2S 63C 104LB (62R - 71R - 81R 1S)]



http://static3.thesettlersonline.com...r/ornament.png Camp 10 (CAN BE BLOCKED)

NORMAL general - not blocked:
10a) 70 roughnecks, 80 rangers, 30 guard dogs [36R (36R)]
10b) 69 roughnecks, 80 rangers [67R 5S 100C 28LB (59R - 66R - 67R 4S)]

NORMAL general - BLOCK (while attacking camp 11):
10) 70 roughnecks, 80 rangers, 30 guard dogs [5R 20S 175C (-)] {7 - 12 rounds of fighting, average 9.0}



http://static3.thesettlersonline.com...r/ornament.png Camp 11 (LEADER)

NORMAL general:
11a) 100 roughnecks, 50 rangers, 50 guard dogs [103R (103R)] {1 round of fighting}
11b) 87 roughnecks, 50 rangers [87R 6S 54C 53LB (72R - 85R - 87R 5S)] {2 rounds of fighting} - BHG if BLOCK on Camp 10

VETERAN general:
11a) 100 roughnecks, 50 rangers, 50 guard dogs [60R (60R)] {1 round of fighting}
11b) 99 roughnecks, 50 rangers [95R 2S 62C 91LB (74R - 85R - 95R 1S)] {2 rounds of fighting}

VETERAN general and Crossbows:
11a) 100 roughnecks, 50 rangers, 50 guard dogs [60R (60R)] {1 round of fighting}
11b) 99 roughnecks, 50 rangers [80R 2S 63C 105XB (61R - 71R - 80R 1S)] {2 rounds of fighting}



http://static3.thesettlersonline.com...r/ornament.png Camp 12

NORMAL general:
12a) 100 roughnecks, 100 rangers [155R 10B (155R 10B)]
12b) 45 roughnecks, 100 rangers [36R 5S 125C 32LB (28R - 35R - 36R 4S)]

VETERAN general:
12) 100 roughnecks, 100 rangers [120R 10S 108C 12LB (104R - 120R 1S - 120R 9S)]

VETERAN general and Crossbows:
12) 100 roughnecks, 100 rangers [110R 5S 110C 25XB (88R - 103R - 110R 4S)]



http://static3.thesettlersonline.com...r/ornament.png Camp 13

NORMAL general:
13a) 180 roughnecks [200R (200R)]
13b) 102 roughnecks [90R 5S 105LB (79R - 88R - 90R 4S)]

VETERAN general:
13a) 180 roughnecks [200R (200R)]
13b) 102 roughnecks [80R 3S 167LB (62R - 73R - 80R 1S)]

VETERAN general and Crossbows:
13) 180 roughnecks [140R 20S 90XB (140R 5S - 140R 12S - 140R 19S)]



http://static3.thesettlersonline.com...r/ornament.png Camp 14

NORMAL general:
14a) 100 roughnecks, 60 rangers, 40 guard dogs [135R (135R)]
14b) 70 roughnecks, 60 rangers [60R 5S 75C 60LB (51R - 59R - 60R 4S)]

VETERAN general:
14a) 100 roughnecks, 60 rangers, 40 guard dogs [48R (48R)]
14b) 99 roughnecks, 60 rangers [99R 2S 75C 74LB (75R - 89R - 99R 1S)]

VETERAN general and Crossbows:
14a) 100 roughnecks, 60 rangers, 40 guard dogs [48R (48R)]
14b) 99 roughnecks, 60 rangers [80R 2S 75C 93XB (61R - 71R - 80R 1S)]



http://static3.thesettlersonline.com...r/ornament.png Camp 15 (CAN BE BLOCKED)

NORMAL general - not blocked:
15a) 100 roughnecks, 100 guard dogs [110R (110R)]
15b) 97 roughnecks[82R 5S 113LB (70R - 80R - 82R 4S)]

NORMAL general - BLOCK (while attacking camp 16):
15) 100 roughnecks, 100 guard dogs [89S 111C (-)] {7 - 12 rounds of fighting, average 9.0}



http://static3.thesettlersonline.com...r/ornament.png Camp 16 (LEADER)

NORMAL general:
16a) 130 roughnecks, 70 rangers [50R 115B (50R 115B)] {1 round of fighting}
16b) 78 roughnecks, 70 rangers [90R 6S 55C 49LB (80R - 89R - 90R 5S)] {2 rounds of fighting} - BHG if BLOCK on Camp 15

VETERAN general:
16a) 130 roughnecks, 70 rangers [110R (110R)] {1 round of fighting}
16b) 98 roughnecks, 70 rangers [103R 5S 85C 57LB (80R - 92R - 103R 1S)] {2 rounds of fighting}

VETERAN general and Crossbows:
16) 130 roughnecks, 70 rangers [93R 22S 85C 50XB (93R 7S - 93R 14S - 93R 21S)] {2 rounds of fighting}



http://static3.thesettlersonline.com...r/ornament.png Camp 17

NORMAL general:
17a) 130 roughnecks, 50 rangers, 20 guard dogs [150R (150R)]
17b) 88 roughnecks, 50 rangers [89R 5S 63C 43LB (75R - 86R - 89R 4S)]

VETERAN general:
17a) 130 roughnecks, 50 rangers, 20 guard dogs [50R (50R)]
17b) 122 roughnecks, 50 rangers [140R 5S 62C 43LB (115R - 131R - 140R 4S)]

VETERAN general and Crossbows:
17a) 130 roughnecks, 50 rangers, 20 guard dogs [24R (24R)]
17b) 129 roughnecks, 50 rangers [134R 3S 63C 50XB (108R - 122R - 134R 1S)]



http://static3.thesettlersonline.com...r/ornament.png Camp 18

NORMAL general:
18a) 80 roughnecks, 120 rangers [150R (150R)]
18b) 34 roughnecks, 120 rangers [27R 5S 150C 18LB (20R - 26R - 27R 4S)]

VETERAN general:
18) 80 roughnecks, 120 rangers [85R 8S 150C 7LB (72R - 84R - 85R 7S)]

VETERAN general and Crossbows:
18) 80 roughnecks, 120 rangers [83R 4S 150C 13XB (66R - 78R - 83R 3S)]



http://static3.thesettlersonline.com...r/ornament.png Camp 19

NORMAL general:
19a) 200 roughnecks [200R (200R)]
19b) 126 roughnecks [150R 5S 45LB (127R - 144R - 150R 4S)]

VETERAN general:
19a) 200 roughnecks [200R (200R)]
19b) 126 roughnecks [118R 3S 129LB (97R - 110R - 118R 2S)]

VETERAN general and Crossbows:
19a) 200 roughnecks [200R (200R)]
19b) 126 roughnecks [101R 1S 148XB (78R - 90R - 101R)]



http://static3.thesettlersonline.com...r/ornament.png Camp 20

NORMAL general:
20a) 80 roughnecks, 70 rangers, 30 guard dogs [36R (36R)]
20b) 79 roughnecks, 70 rangers [89R 5S 85C 21LB (71R - 83R - 89R 4S)]

VETERAN general:
20a) 80 roughnecks, 70 rangers, 30 guard dogs [36R (36R)]
20b) 79 roughnecks, 70 rangers [67R 3S 85C 95LB (49R - 60R - 67R 2S)]

VETERAN general and Crossbows:
20a) 80 roughnecks, 70 rangers, 30 guard dogs [36R (36R)]
20b) 79 roughnecks, 70 rangers [67R 3S 85C 95XB (49R - 60R - 67R 2S)]



http://static3.thesettlersonline.com...r/ornament.png Camp 21

NORMAL general:
21a) 140 roughnecks, 60 rangers [155R 45B (155R 45B)]
21b) 63 roughnecks, 60 rangers [50R 5S 75C 70LB (38R - 47R - 50R 4S)]

VETERAN general:
21a) 140 roughnecks, 60 rangers [75R (75R)]
21b) 118 roughnecks, 60 rangers [143R 5S 60C 42LB (112R - 132R - 143R 4S)]

VETERAN general and Crossbows:
21) 140 roughnecks, 60 rangers [160R 15S 36C 39XB (145R - 160R 2S - 160R 14S)]



http://static3.thesettlersonline.com...r/ornament.png Camp 22

NORMAL general:
22a) 100 roughnecks, 60 rangers, 40 guard dogs, 1 Wild Mary [75R 125C (75R 125C)]
22b) 93 roughnecks, 1 Wild Mary [104R 96C (104R 96C)]
22c) 72 roughnecks, 1 Wild Mary [83R 117C (83R 117C)]
22d) 43 roughnecks, 1 Wild Mary [25R 15S 160C (25R 15S 160C)]
22e) 1 Wild Mary [71S 129LB (57S 68S 71S)]

VETERAN general:
22a) 100 roughnecks, 60 rangers, 40 guard dogs, 1 Wild Mary [155R 95C (155R 95C)]
22b) 96 roughnecks, 1 Wild Mary [99R 151C (99R 151C)]
22c) 59 roughnecks, 1 Wild Mary [2R 28S 220C (2R 28S 220C)]
22d) 1 Wild Mary [54S 196LB (41S 51S 53S)]

VETERAN general and Crossbows:
22a) 100 roughnecks, 60 rangers, 40 guard dogs, 1 Wild Mary [155R 95C (155R 95C)]
22b) 96 roughnecks, 1 Wild Mary [99R 151C (99R 151C)]
22c) 59 roughnecks, 1 Wild Mary [2R 28S 220C (2R 28S 220C)]
22d) 1 Wild Mary [99R 1S 150XB (92R 96R 99R)]

can I request for Victor map?
with new Veteran general and proper xbow lineup

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Originally Posted by Keylock32

can I request for Victor map?
with new Veteran general and proper xbow lineup

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we are currently busy (or at least I am) hunting all those eggs. So victor map is probably coming after easter event.

btw thanks Tage for your excelent garrison setups from wild mary.

I did wild mary adventure just because i wanted to do something new. Loot was a big suprise because i was expecting only 1 item per slot, but actually i got 1000ewl, 2x300 titanium ore, 500 granites from slot 1. Slot 2 gave me only 900 hwps, but slot 3+4 gave me 2x800 steel swords, 1700 horses and 1500 iron swords. From slot 5 i received 2x300 sausages and 600 beer. Slot 6 gave me only 300 coins.

I really dont know if it was a major bug or why i got so much loot. The adventure itself was just total pain. I had no idea how much troops it will take before i started it (had like 900 recruits 600 militia 200cav 200sold 60xbowmans and 200lb:s ready) I realised soon that i need tons of recruits more to finish the adventure. I had 25k bronze swords and 2000 settlers waiting so it was not that big problem for me.

I just hope that someone else will complete this adventure and tell what rewards he got

WITH THE NEW PATHING, THIS GUIDE IS NOW OBSOLETE
AN UPDATED GUIDE FOR THE NEW PATHING CAN BE FOUND HERE.

Traitors

Adventure Info:
Player Level: 26+
Difficulty: 4/10
Number of Players: 1
Duration: 3 days
Where to get?: Adventure seek with Explorer or Trader (shop) for 165 gems

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/522...orsmission.jpg

http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/4...wardchance.jpg

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/e...ers800x600.png

You need at least 2 generals, preferably 4. At least one general must be normal.

You need to send troops 6 times if you have one veteran general, otherwise 7 times.

This guide includes blocks of both method 1 and method 2.

Four versions are presented below;

• NORMAL generals. Only use method 1 blocks (4 times) if you only have these.
• BHG - battle hardened general (at least one of them). 4 blocks used, one of which is of method 2.
• VETERAN general (one of them). 4 blocks used, one of which is of method 2.
• VETERAN general (one of them) with Crossbows. 4 blocks used, one of which is of method 2.

Veteran generals are not needed for the suicidal waves on camp 11. All blocking generals must be normal generals.

NORMAL generals

• Units needed, average: 915R 118S 148C 129LB (1310 units)
• Units needed, maximum: 937R 118S 148C 129LB (1332 units)

• Units lost, minimum: 811R
• Units lost, average: 887R
• Units lost, maximum: 937R 4S

BHG - battle hardened general

• Units needed, average: 914R 118S 250C 69LB (1351 units)
• Units needed, maximum: 936R 118S 250C 69LB (1373 units)

• Units lost, minimum: 810R
• Units lost, average: 886R
• Units lost, maximum: 936R 4S

VETERAN general

• Units needed, average: 667R 132S 263C 62LB (1124 units)
• Units needed, maximum: 686R 132S 263C 62LB (1143 units)

• Units lost, minimum: 560R
• Units lost, average: 646R
• Units lost, maximum: 686R 25S

VETERAN general with Crossbows

• Units needed, average: 641R 132S 295C 34XB (1102 units)
• Units needed, maximum: 682R 132S 295C 34XB (1143 units)

• Units lost, minimum: 524R
• Units lost, average: 620R
• Units lost, maximum: 682R 22S

Game flow, garrison settings and losses (minimum - average - maximum):



http://static3.thesettlersonline.com...r/ornament.png Camp 4 (LEADER)

Move one general to position G1.

NORMAL general:
4) 40 Soldier Deserters, 60 Longbowman Deserters [27R 2S 148C 23LB (19R - 24R - 27R 1S)]

VETERAN general:
4) 40 Soldier Deserters, 60 Longbowman Deserters [20R 2S 228C (13R - 18R - 20R 1S)]



http://static3.thesettlersonline.com...r/ornament.png Camp 5

Move at least two generals to position G2. One must be a normal general.

NORMAL general:
5) 60 Soldier Deserters, 60 Longbowman Deserters [54R 2S 75C 69LB (38R - 46R - 54R 1S)]

VETERAN general:
5) 60 Soldier Deserters, 60 Longbowman Deserters [44R 2S 155C 49LB (31R - 39R - 44R 1S)]

VETERAN general and Crossbows:
5) 60 Soldier Deserters, 60 Longbowman Deserters [42R 2S 181C 25XB (30R - 37R - 42R 1S)]



http://static3.thesettlersonline.com...r/ornament.png Camp 6

NORMAL general:
6a) 40 Milita Deserters, 20 Soldier Deserters, 40 Cavalry Deserters, 60 Longbowman Deserters [125R (125R)]

The first wave will kill all militia deserters, should kill all cavalry deserters and 0-10 (average 4) soldier deserters.
The second wave depends on what still remains in that camp (10-20 soldier deserters and 60 longbowman deserters):

6b) 20 Soldier Deserters, 60 Longbowman Deserters [7R 1S 192C (4R - 6R - 7R)]
6b) 19 Soldier Deserters, 60 Longbowman Deserters [6R 1S 193C (3R - 5R - 6R)]
6b) 18 Soldier Deserters, 60 Longbowman Deserters [5R 1S 194C (3R - 5R - 5R)]
6b) 17 Soldier Deserters, 60 Longbowman Deserters [4R 1S 195C (2R - 4R - 4R)]
6b) 16 Soldier Deserters, 60 Longbowman Deserters [3R 1S 196C (1R - 3R - 3R)]
6b) 15 Soldier Deserters, 60 Longbowman Deserters [2R 1S 197C (1R - 2R - 2R)]
6b) 14 Soldier Deserters, 60 Longbowman Deserters [1R 1S 198C (0R - 1R - 1R)]
6b) 13 Soldier Deserters, 60 Longbowman Deserters [1S 199C (-)]

[1S 199C] kills everything with no losses if there are 13, or fewer, soldier deserters remaining.
All-in-all minimal, average and maximal losses for camp 6 with a NORMAL general are thus (125R - 128R - 132R).

VETERAN general:
6) 40 Milita Deserters, 20 Soldier Deserters, 40 Cavalry Deserters, 60 Longbowman Deserters [118R 132S (88R - 102R - 118R 1S)]



http://static3.thesettlersonline.com...r/ornament.png Camp 7 (CAN BE BLOCKED)

NORMAL general - BLOCK (while attacking camp 8):
7) 60 Milita Deserters, 60 Soldier Deserters, 60 Cavalry Deserters [1R (1R)]

NORMAL general - BLOCK (while attacking camp 8):
7) 60 Milita Deserters, 60 Soldier Deserters, 60 Cavalry Deserters [74S 126C (-)] {7 - 13 rounds of fighting, average 9.4}

Use method 1 if you haven't got a battle hardened general (BHG). Otherwise, if you've got the troops (enough cavalry), method 2 is recommended.
It is safer due to the numerous rounds of fighting, it leads to not loosing even the 1R and it doesn't require the general to recover.

1. Send the block from garrison position A to camp 7.
2. Send the main attack from garrison position B to camp 8 (see below) as soon as you can.

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/e...ckingcamp7.jpg

This should be the view shortly before the blocking general attacks camp 7:

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/e...eringcamp7.jpg

And if you used blocking method 2, this will be the view shortly before camp 8 has fallen:

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/e...llingcamp8.jpg



http://static3.thesettlersonline.com...r/ornament.png Camp 8 (LEADER)

NORMAL general:
8) 60 Soldier Deserters, 100 Longbowman Deserters [73R 3S 124C (55R - 66R - 73R 2S)] {3-4 rounds of fighting} - BHG if BLOCK method 2 on Camp 7

VETERAN general:
8) 60 Soldier Deserters, 100 Longbowman Deserters [49R 2S 137C 62LB (36R - 44R - 49R 1S)] {2 rounds of fighting}

VETERAN general and Crossbows:
8) 60 Soldier Deserters, 100 Longbowman Deserters [45R 2S 169C 34XB (34R - 41R - 45R 1S)] {2 rounds of fighting}



http://static3.thesettlersonline.com...r/ornament.png Camp 10

Move your generals to position G3.

NORMAL general:
10a) 100 Soldier Deserters, 100 Longbowman Deserters [175R (175R)]

The first wave will kill some 54-66 (average 60) soldier deserters.
The second wave depends on what still remains in that camp (34-46 soldier deserters and 100 longbowman deserters):

10b) 46 Soldier Deserters, 100 Longbowman Deserters [46R 2S 126C 26LB (32R - 39R - 46R)]
10b) 45 Soldier Deserters, 100 Longbowman Deserters [44R 2S 126C 28LB (30R - 37R - 44R)]
10b) 44 Soldier Deserters, 100 Longbowman Deserters [42R 2S 126C 30LB (28R - 35R - 42R)]
10b) 43 Soldier Deserters, 100 Longbowman Deserters [40R 2S 126C 32LB (27R - 33R - 40R)]
10b) 42 Soldier Deserters, 100 Longbowman Deserters [38R 2S 126C 34LB (25R - 32R - 38R)]
10b) 41 Soldier Deserters, 100 Longbowman Deserters [36R 2S 126C 36LB (24R - 30R - 36R)]
10b) 40 Soldier Deserters, 100 Longbowman Deserters [34R 2S 128C 36LB (23R - 29R - 34R)]
10b) 39 Soldier Deserters, 100 Longbowman Deserters [32R 2S 132C 34LB (22R - 28R - 32R)]
10b) 38 Soldier Deserters, 100 Longbowman Deserters [31R 2S 136C 31LB (22R - 27R - 31R)]
10b) 37 Soldier Deserters, 100 Longbowman Deserters [30R 2S 140C 28LB (21R - 26R - 30R)]
10b) 36 Soldier Deserters, 100 Longbowman Deserters [29R 2S 144C 25LB (20R - 25R - 29R)]
10b) 35 Soldier Deserters, 100 Longbowman Deserters [28R 2S 148C 22LB (19R - 24R - 28R)]
10b) 34 Soldier Deserters, 100 Longbowman Deserters [27R 2S 152C 19LB (18R - 23R - 27R)]

All-in-all minimal, average and maximal losses for camp 10 with a NORMAL general are thus (192R - 204R - 221R).

VETERAN general:
10) 100 Soldier Deserters, 100 Longbowman Deserters [144R 6S 65C 35LB (113R - 137R - 144R 5S)]

VETERAN general and Crossbows:
10) 100 Soldier Deserters, 100 Longbowman Deserters [130R 3S 96C 21XB (100R - 116R - 130R 2S)]



http://static3.thesettlersonline.com...r/ornament.png Camp 9 (CAN BE BLOCKED)

Camp 11 must be attacked 2-3 times, and the nunber of rounds is so huge, that only block method 1 can be used on camp 9.
And it has to be used equally number of times as attacks on camp 11.

SidV suggested a double blocking, but having failed twice on that, I would recommend sending all blocks as separate ones.
The same garrison positions can be used as suggested by SidV though. This gives two possible combinations of blocks and attacks:

1. Send the block from garrison position A to camp 9
2. Send the main attack 5 seconds later from garrison position B to camp 11

1. Send the block from garrison position C to camp 9
2. Send the main attack 5 seconds later from garrison position D to camp 11

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/e...ckingcamp9.jpg

This should be the view shortly before the blocking general attacks camp 9:

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/e...kingcamp11.jpg



http://static3.thesettlersonline.com...r/ornament.png Camp 11 (LEADER)

NORMAL general:
9a) 150 Soldier Deserters, 50 Cavalry Deserters [1R (1R)]
11a) 60 Soldier Deserters, 60 Cavalry Deserters, 60 Longbowman Deserters, 1 Sir Robin, 1 Big Bertha [86R (86R)]

9b) 150 Soldier Deserters, 50 Cavalry Deserters [1R (1R)]
11b) 60 Soldier Deserters, 60 Longbowman Deserters, 1 Sir Robin, 1 Big Bertha [200R (200R)]

9c) 150 Soldier Deserters, 50 Cavalry Deserters [1R (1R)]
11c) 1 Sir Robin, 1 Big Bertha [82R 118S (27R - 54R - 82R)]

VETERAN general:
9a) 150 Soldier Deserters, 50 Cavalry Deserters [1R (1R)]
11a) 60 Soldier Deserters, 60 Cavalry Deserters, 60 Longbowman Deserters, 1 Sir Robin, 1 Big Bertha [175R (175R)]

9b) 150 Soldier Deserters, 50 Cavalry Deserters [1R (1R)]
11b) 8-27 Soldier Deserters, 60 Longbowman Deserters, 1 Sir Robin, 1 Big Bertha [150R 100S (82R - 129R - 150R 16S)]



http://static3.thesettlersonline.com...r/ornament.png

All garrison setups where recruits and soldiers are included have a very small chance of one or a few soldiers being killed.
I prefer having it so tight, that in most cases that one soldier survives and actually saves one recruit by taking the last hits in the battle.
That being said, be prepared to lose the odd soldier(s) after playing the same adventure hundreds of times...

thanks tage for your garrison setups. I will test block methods and edit in here after I succes or fail them

edit. BeerMonster has tested blocks method and those seems working fine. Thanks, saved me lots of time :)

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Originally Posted by Keksi

Loot was a big suprise because i was expecting only 1 item per slot, but actually i got 1000ewl, 2x300 titanium ore, 500 granites from slot 1. Slot 2 gave me only 900 hwps, but slot 3+4 gave me 2x800 steel swords, 1700 horses and 1500 iron swords. From slot 5 i received 2x300 sausages and 600 beer. Slot 6 gave me only 300 coins.

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That would indicate Wild Mary having these loot slots:

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/e...ldMaryLoot.png

Quote:

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Originally Posted by Keksi

I just hope that someone else will complete this adventure and tell what rewards he got

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So do I !!!
Whoever plays this adventure, please let us know what reward you got! :)

traitors: 6) 40 Milita Deserters, 20 Soldier Deserters, 40 Cavalry Deserters, 60 Longbowman Deserters [88R 132S (88R - 102R - 118R 1S)]


I sent with this setting and lost bunch of soldiers.. I should have noticed that you have a mistake there probably, and you want to send 118R and not 88R

..but no problem. thanks for the setups anyway :)

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Originally Posted by onlem

traitors: 6) 40 Milita Deserters, 20 Soldier Deserters, 40 Cavalry Deserters, 60 Longbowman Deserters [88R 132S (88R - 102R - 118R 1S)]


I sent with this setting and lost bunch of soldiers.. I should have noticed that you have a mistake there probably, and you want to send 118R and not 88R

..but no problem. thanks for the setups anyway :)

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Oooh, I'm truly sorry, and thanks mate for finding this so quickly and letting me know!

I'm having trouble with the Traitors 9-11 block every now and then. Again yesterday I failed, and lost 175R on camp 9. Maybe I am bad at counting to 5 in seconds or something, but I think this time my camp 11 general was ahead of time. Earlier time in traitor I think he was late... I don't know, maybe it is the random lag.

However, now today on my second attempt, I didn't get intercepted. I paid attention on where the generals are moving in regard to each other, and maybe this way I could learn to retreat one or both of them in time, if it looks like the camp 11 guy is not in right pace.

Here's a picture that has marked the approximate lines where the generals are moving when they succeeded today:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/30478113/pics/traitor01.png I was so sure, that the camp11 guy is ahead again, but it was not.. Just for info, if someone is struggling with the 9-11 and want some more references..

If someone has more pictures of where the generals should be in regard to each other somewhere at these areas or earlier, please post. It would help save some recruit lives if you could just know that it is time to retreat this attempt

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Originally Posted by onlem

I'm having trouble with the Traitors 9-11 block every now and then. Again yesterday I failed, and lost 175R on camp 9. Maybe I am bad at counting to 5 in seconds or something, but I think this time my camp 11 general was ahead of time. Earlier time in traitor I think he was late... I don't know, maybe it is the random lag.

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The time span during which the second general has to enter the red influence area of camp 9 is quite short, maybe just 10 seconds in total.
If he's sent only 2 seconds after the blocking general, he'd arrive too early and be intercepted by camp 9 before the block has started his fight.
If he's sent 10 seconds after the blocking general, he'd never reach the white castle before the block has finished his fight.

The 5 seconds waiting time is the minimum, so don't count too fast!
After those 5 seconds have elapsed, you still have about 5 seconds time before you'll be too late.

In either case, you should normally have enough time to recall the main attack if you see him being intercepted by camp 9
(I've had to do that numerous times).
In that case you will only lose that one recruit fighting camp 9, and 4 hours time waiting for him to recover.

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Originally Posted by onlem

Here's a picture that has marked the approximate lines where the generals are moving when they succeeded today:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/30478113/pics/traitor01.png
I was so sure, that the camp11 guy is ahead again, but it was not.. Just for info, if someone is struggling with the 9-11 and want some more references..

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Looking at that longer black line, I need to ask you which garrison location you sent your second wave from.
Coming from garrision B he will never cross that line, he will pass it further to the right.
Can you confirm whether you sent the second general against camp 11 from location B or C?

Quote:

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Originally Posted by onlem

If someone has more pictures of where the generals should be in regard to each other somewhere at these areas or earlier, please post. It would help save some recruit lives if you could just know that it is time to retreat this attempt

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This is where the generals should be if the second one (B) was sent 5 seconds after the first one.
If at this point, general B would already be heading into the red area, he is too fast and needs to be recalled.
If he's still far from entering the edge of the red area, then he's too slow and probably won't make it in time.

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/e...kingcamp11.jpg

Please note, that it is worth keeping camp 9 selected when checking whether you have to retreat.
It's a lot easier to see when the main attack is entering the influence area of camp 9, if that camp is selected.

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In either case, you should normally have enough time to recall the main attack if you see him being intercepted by camp 9

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the problem is that I don't "see" if he is being intercepted or not. I have had him attack the castle, but after or during the fight he suddenly appears on the camp 9 and fights there, so i only find out after the fight.

On the picture I posted yeah, I draw the line too much to the left. It moved more from the right. I edited the pic with red lines on where they were on this occasion.

Thanks for the tip for keeping the camp 9 selected. I didn't think of that, eventhough I saw that picture you posted earlier. I just had this block attack again, and the camp11 attacking general entered the edge while the camp9 attacking general was just entering to the camp9, like in your picture and the attack was succesful.. Maybe I'll do better from now on thanks :)

On the german website, there is a clear picture where your attacking general should be when the block-general is leaving to attack.
Due to the horrible lag we lately see, blocking is very hard. I have had severall blocks gone wrong, because one of my generals didn't left, or it took too much time to get an response. The principle is really clear. When in doubt recall, and keep your fingers on the recall button.

"Old Friends" is an adventure that you only get as a reward from the adventure "Witch Of The Swamp".

Adventure Infos:
Player Level: 32+
Difficulty: 4/10
Number of Players: 1
Duration: 2 days
Where to get?: only as reward from "Witch Of The Swamp"

http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/8...ndsmission.jpg

http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/7...slootchanc.jpg

http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/5...friendsmap.jpg


Tactical map & garrison settings (R/B/C/S/A Vet Version (Mifa's tactical map)

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/5196/oldfriendsi.jpg


Units need: 337R 74C 85B 196S 111A
Max losses: 337R 65B 28S




Tage's garrison setups, with normal and veteran, with and without crossbows

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Originally Posted by Mystic

On the german website, there is a clear picture where your attacking general should be when the block-general is leaving to attack.
Due to the horrible lag we lately see, blocking is very hard. I have had severall blocks gone wrong, because one of my generals didn't left, or it took too much time to get an response. The principle is really clear. When in doubt recall, and keep your fingers on the recall button.

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its simple DO NOT block when its laggy.
How do you know when its lagging:
- when it takes a while for a garison to update numbers.
- when you see a litle circle over you garison with a running donkey when the general needs to move
- when retreat responce is slow (test this before you send risky attacks like blocks)

Victor The Vicious


Adventure Infos:
Player Level: 32+
Difficulty: 8/10
Number of Players: 3
Duration: 8 days
Where to get?:


http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/322...tormission.png


http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/9...lootreward.jpg


http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/1...vvictormap.jpg


fishslice has sended his garrison setup and want to share it.

fishslice's garrison setups with veteran (xbows+elite soldiers)

Max losses 1477R 80B 43M 241S 140C total 1981

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Originally Posted by casel0gic

Be careful because, as user Edgemil discovered to his cost, what is displayed on the screen, and what you can verify with your eyes, may not be happening in real time. Sometimes the lag is so poor the game does not inform you that a general has been intercepted. A general can appear to reach his designated target, commence battle, and defeat the enemy; only to discover afterward that he took an entirely different course and was defeated. I, myself, lost 86 recruits (x2) because my general failed to retreat when I gave the order.

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I hope he sended ticket to support since that block failure wasn't his fault? It takes while when support give reply, because they seem very busy. But he will get troops back, if he lost them because technical problem. I hope you get your troops back too and try blocking again, when game has less lag :)

I lost my 149 cavalry today too, because my general was unable to retreat, even there was time to retreat.

Updated to be in line with my other guides, and also showing more precise information about the optional, tight block.
The block got 3.3 seconds tighter after the pathfinding algorithm changed, leaving only a couple of seconds spare time for it.

Old Friends
Average losses (best version): 366R 65C

Adventure Info:
Player Level: 36+
Difficulty: 4/10
Number of Players: 1
Duration: 2 days
Where to get?: Only as a reward from "Witch Of The Swamp"

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/e...ps7cfda4ba.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-u...%2BFriends.png
For more information about the loot, please refer to Triple-J's Loot Overview

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/e...ps561c7e46.jpg
QUICK LINKS: ... G1 (Camps 7-8) ... G2 (Camp 6) ... G2 (Camp 3)

You need to send troops 4 times if you choose to block and have one veteran general, otherwise 5 times.


Ten versions are presented below, with the following needed generals, troops, and lost troops:


One ANY general with Longbows, no block
Twice will a general be recovering from a loss. Thus, having at least three generals would speeds things up.

• Units needed, average: 602R 116M 104C 136LB (970 units)
• Units needed, maximum: 607R 124M 104C 136LB (970 units)

• Units lost, minimum: 573R 21M 65C
• Units lost, average: 594R 33M 65C
• Units lost, maximum: 607R 41M 65C

One ANY general with Longbows
One NORMAL general needed for the blocks
A third general would shorten the waiting time from 8 hours to 4 hours.

• Units needed, average: 493R 116M 104C 136LB (849 units)
• Units needed, maximum: 494R 121M 104C 136LB (855 units)

• Units lost, minimum: 473R 21M 65C
• Units lost, average: 485R 33M 65C
• Units lost, maximum: 494R 38M 65C

One ANY general with Longbows, no block
Twice will a general be recovering from a loss. Thus, having at least three generals would speeds things up.

• Units needed, average: 612R 102S 104C 137LB (955 units)
• Units needed, maximum: 618R 102S 104C 137LB (961 units)

• Units lost, minimum: 588R 6S 65C
• Units lost, average: 604R 16S 65C
• Units lost, maximum: 618R 23S 65C

One ANY general with Longbows
One NORMAL general needed for the blocks
A third general would shorten the waiting time from 8 hours to 4 hours.

• Units needed, average: 506R 102S 104C 137LB (849 units)
• Units needed, maximum: 507R 102S 104C 137LB (850 units)

• Units lost, minimum: 488R 6S 65C
• Units lost, average: 498R 16S 65C
• Units lost, maximum: 507R 23S 65C

One ANY general with Crossbows, no blocks
Twice will a general be recovering from a loss. Thus, having at least three generals would speeds things up.

• Units needed, average: 610R 87S 65C 200XB (962 units)
• Units needed, maximum: 617R 87S 65C 200XB (969 units)

• Units lost, minimum: 572R 65C
• Units lost, average: 602R 65C
• Units lost, maximum: 617R 2S 65C

One ANY general with Crossbows
One NORMAL general needed for the blocks
A third general would shorten the waiting time from 8 hours to 4 hours.

• Units needed, average: 502R 87S 65C 200XB (854 units)
• Units needed, maximum: 506R 87S 65C 200XB (858 units)

• Units lost, minimum: 472R 6S 65C
• Units lost, average: 494R 16S 65C
• Units lost, maximum: 506R 23S 65C

One VETERAN general with Longbows, no blocks
One ANY general

• Units needed, average: 488R 190S 65C 171LB (914 units)
• Units needed, maximum: 497R 190S 65C 171LB (923 units)

• Units lost, minimum: 456R 65C
• Units lost, average: 487R 3S 65C
• Units lost, maximum: 497R 9S 65C

One VETERAN general with Longbows
One NORMAL general needed for the block

• Units needed, average: 435R 171S 65C 171LB (842 units)
• Units needed, maximum: 439R 171S 65C 171LB (846 units)

• Units lost, minimum: 409R 65C
• Units lost, average: 434R 3S 65C
• Units lost, maximum: 439R 5S 65C

One VETERAN general with Crossbows, no blocks
One ANY general

• Units needed, average: 420R 190S 94C 211XB (915 units)
• Units needed, maximum: 429R 190S 94C 211XB (924 units)

• Units lost, minimum: 395R 65C
• Units lost, average: 419R 65C
• Units lost, maximum: 429R 5S 65C

One VETERAN general with Crossbows
One NORMAL general needed for the block

• Units needed, average: 367R 167S 94C 211XB (839 units)
• Units needed, maximum: 371R 167S 94C 211XB (843 units)

• Units lost, minimum: 348R 65C
• Units lost, average: 366R 65C
• Units lost, maximum: 371R 1S 65C

This guide includes one optional block of method 1. If you use the block, you will have to do it twice (and wait 4 hours in between).




Game flow, garrison settings and losses (minimum - average - maximum):




http://www.thesettlersonlinewiki.com...s/ornament.png Garrison Position G1 (OPTIONAL BLOCK)

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/e...leJet/Baru.gif Back to Map

Move one normal general and your best general to garrison position G1.
If you opt not to block, move at least your best general to G1:

• Position A: NORMAL general
• Position B: ANY general or VETERAN general

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/e...ps90f0f665.jpg

If you choose to block, you will have to block camp 7 twice, and wait 4 hours in between for your generals to recover.

For both blocks, follow the same procedure:

• Send general A to camp 7 and general B to camp 8 when general A is about to reached the position shown in the circular inset above.
• If there is no lag, you can send general B, when general A has reached that position, in front of the stone behind him.
• Just after that position, he will turn 90° to the left. Once he has turned, it is too late for you to send general B.
• If the condition is laggy, you may have to send general B a little earlier, to compensate for the slow dispatch.
• In order to see whether your generals are well timed, check the upper left inset in the image above.
• At the moment when general A is about to disappear into the crack in the wall, general B should be in the upper half of the sandy beach.
• If general B is still near the shoreline, he is too slow, and you need to retreat them both.
• If general B is already entering the green, grassy area, he is too fast, and you need to retreat them both.
• Even if you feel they are timed correctly, do watch your main general closely, and retreat him if he gets intercepted by camp 7.

First, send general A to camp 7:

From A to Camp 7) 100 Cultists, 50 Shadowsneakers, 20 Dancing Dervishes
BLOCKING NORMAL general: [1R (1R)] {20 seconds of fighting}

When general A is about to reach the position shown in the inset above, send general B to camp 8:

From B to Camp 8) 50 Cultists, 50 Dark Priests, 1 Swamp Witch, 1 Dark High Priest
ANY general: [111R 65C (111R 65C)]
MASTER of Martial Arts: [111R 7C (111R 7C)]


When your generals have recuperated (after 4 hours), do the same block once more. First, send general A to camp 7:

From A to Camp 7) 100 Cultists, 50 Shadowsneakers, 20 Dancing Dervishes
BLOCKING NORMAL general: [1R (1R)] {20 seconds of fighting}

When general A is about to reach the position shown in the inset above, send general B to camp 8:

From B to Camp 8) 1 Swamp Witch, 1 Dark High Priest
ANY general: [48R 38M 114LB (48R 21M - 48R 33M - 48R 38M)]
ANY general: [65R 18S 117LB (65R 6S - 65R 14S - 65R 17S)]
ANY general: [78R 1S 121XB (60R - 74R - 78R)]
VETERAN general: [78R 1S 171LB (60R - 74R - 78R)]
VETERAN general: [38R 1S 211XB (30R - 36R - 38R)]
MASTER of Martial Arts: [44R 16S 160LB (44R 7S - 44R 13S - 44R 16S)]
MASTER of Martial Arts: [38R 1S 181XB (30R - 36R - 38R)]


If you have a VETERAN general with Crossbows, or better, you may kill camp 8 in one attack, and thus won't need to block camp 7 more than once. These setups will require more soldiers, which are not included in the summary above. First, send general A to camp 7:

From A to Camp 7) 100 Cultists, 50 Shadowsneakers, 20 Dancing Dervishes
BLOCKING NORMAL general: [1R (1R)] {20 seconds of fighting}

When general A is about to reach the position shown in the inset above, send general B to camp 8:

From B to Camp 8) 50 Cultists, 50 Dark Priests, 1 Swamp Witch, 1 Dark High Priest
VETERAN general: 50R 46S 1E 75C 78XB (50R 32S - 50R 41S - 50R 46S)
VETERAN general: 68R 41S 1E 61C 79XB (68R 27S - 68R 35S - 68R 41S)
VETERAN general: 62S 4E 109C 75XB (51S - 60S - 62S 3E)
VETERAN general: 40R 52S 1E 157K (40R 39S - 40R 47S - 40R 52S) (provided for achievement no cavalry)
MAJOR general: 88R 28S 1E 75C 78XB (88R 14S - 88R 23S - 88R 28S)
MAJOR general: 67S 1E 202XB (51S - 59S - 67S) (provided for achievement no cavalry)
MASTER of Martial Arts: 103R 21S 1E 15C 80XB (103R 8S - 103R 17S - 103R 21S)
MASTER of Martial Arts: 120R 18S 1E 81XB (120R 4S - 120R 13S - 120R 18S) (provided for achievement no cavalry)
MASTER of Martial Arts: 5R 93S 122E (5R 74S - 5R 85S - 5R 93S) (provided for achievements no cavalry and no ranged units)


If you opt not to use the block, kill camps 7 and 8, one at a time:

Camp 7) 100 Cultists, 50 Shadowsneakers, 20 Dancing Dervishes
ANY general: [115R 85M (102R - 111R - 115R 3M)]
ANY general: [113R 87S (102R - 110R - 113R 1S)]
VETERAN general [60R 190S (49R - 55R - 60R 4S)]
VETERAN general [60R 1S 189E (49R - 53R - 60R 1S)]
MAJOR general [54R 212S (48R - 52R - 54R)]
MAJOR general [54R 204E (48R - 52R - 54R)]
MASTER of Martial Arts [52R 160S (46R - 50R - 52R)]
MASTER of Martial Arts [51R 150E (46R - 50R - 51R)]

Camp 8a) 50 Cultists, 50 Dark Priests, 1 Swamp Witch, 1 Dark High Priest
ANY general: [111R 65C (111R 65C)]
MASTER of Martial Arts: [111R 7C (111R 7C)]

Camp 8b) 1 Swamp Witch, 1 Dark High Priest
ANY general: [48R 38M 114LB (48R 21M - 48R 33M - 48R 38M)]
ANY general: [65R 18S 117LB (65R 6S - 65R 14S - 65R 17S)]
ANY general: [78R 1S 121XB (60R - 74R - 78R)]
VETERAN general: [78R 1S 171LB (60R - 74R - 78R)]
VETERAN general: [38R 1S 211XB (30R - 36R -38R)]




http://www.thesettlersonlinewiki.com...s/ornament.png Garrison Position G2 (Camp 6)

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/e...leJet/Baru.gif Back to Map

Move one or two generals to position G2:

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/e...ps856428c4.jpg

If you have a MASTER of Martial Arts, you may use him for the suicide:

Camp 6a) 100 Cultists, 50 Dark Priests, 1 Dark High Priest
MASTER of Martial Arts: [1R (1R)]

Camp 6b) 100 Cultists, 25-28 Dark Priests, 1 Dark High Priest
ANY general: [99R 12S 2C 86XB (99R 5S - 99R 10S - 99R 11S)]
VETERAN general: [146R 2S 102E (131R - 144R - 146R 2S)] (provided for achievements no cavalry and no ranged units)
VETERAN general: [121R 2S 13C 114LB (106R - 117R - 92R 1S)]
VETERAN general: [92R 2S 23C 133XB (81R - 89R - 92R 1S)]
MAJOR general: [76R 1E 67C 126XB (65R - 72R - 76R)]
MASTER of Martial Arts: [98R 2S 12C 108LB (85R - 95R - 98R)]
MASTER of Martial Arts: [73R 1S 19C 127XB (64R - 71R - 73R)]


if you have a VETERAN general, kill camp 6 in one wave:

Camp 6) 100 Cultists, 50 Dark Priests, 1 Dark High Priest
VETERAN general: [165R 5S 80LB (157R - 165R 2S - 165R 4S)]
VETERAN general: [150R 100S (150R - 150R 19S - 150R 22S)] (provided for achievements no cavalry and no ranged units)
VETERAN general: [137R 2S 29C 82XB (124R - 134R - 137R)]
VETERAN general: [147R 2S 101XB (136R - 145R - 147R 1S)] (provided for achievement no cavalry)
MAJOR general: [119R 1S 1E 72C 77XB (105R - 116R - 119R 1S)]
MASTER of Martial Arts: [172R 3S 45LB (152R - 169R - 172R 2S)]
MASTER of Martial Arts: [136R 18S 66E (136R 7S - 136R 14S - 136R 18S)] (provided for achievements no cavalry and no ranged units)
MASTER of Martial Arts: [115R 1S 1E 27C 76XB (100R - 111R - 115R 1S)]
MASTER of Martial Arts: [126R 1E 83XB (111R - 122R - 126R)] (provided for achievement no cavalry)


If you have ANY general with Longbows:

Camp 6a) 100 Cultists, 50 Dark Priests, 1 Dark High Priest
ANY general: [191R (191R)]
ANY general: [172B (172B)]

Camp 6b) 0-13 Dark Priests, 1 Dark High Priest
ANY general: [25R 39C 136LB (20R - 24R - 25R)]
ANY general: [23R 1S 39C 137LB (20R - 22R - 23R)]


If you have ANY general with Crossbows:

Camp 6a) 100 Cultists, 50 Dark Priests, 1 Dark High Priest
ANY general: [200R (200R)]
ANY general: [185B (185B)]

Camp 6b) 1 Dark High Priest
ANY general : [200XB (-)]




http://www.thesettlersonlinewiki.com...s/ornament.png Garrison Position G2 (Camp 3)

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/e...leJet/Baru.gif Back to Map

When camp 6 has been defeated, you will get the message that the quest has been completed:

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/e...ps612a5ad1.jpg

If you opt to finish the adventure now, you will only get 4450 XP. If you kill camp 3, you will gain another 2360 XP.
Thus, if you want the full XP from this adventure, do not click to finish the adventure, until you have first attacked camp 3:

Camp 3) 80 Cultists, 40 Shadowsneakers, 40 Firedancers
ANY general: [117R 83M (101R - 109R - 117R)]
ANY general: [115R 85S (99R - 107R - 115R 1S)]
VETERAN general: [83R 150S (79R - 82R - 83R 1S)]
MASTER of Martial Arts: [75R 100S (69R - 72R - 75R 1S)]


If you still have a MASTER of Martial Arts who isn't recovering, you should use him for a suicidal first wave:

Camp 3a) 80 Cultists, 40 Shadowsneakers, 40 Firedancers
MASTER of Martial Arts: [1R (1R)]

Camp 3b) 80 Cultists, 30-32 Firedancers
ANY general: [45R 119C 36LB (35R - 38R - 44R)]
ANY general: [43R 1S 120C 36LB (35R - 38R - 43R)]
ANY general: [38R 2S 134C 26XB (33R - 36R - 38R 1S)]
VETERAN general: [29R 1S 220C (24R - 27R - 29R)]
MAJOR general: [26R 1E 243C (21R - 25R - 26R)]




http://www.thesettlersonlinewiki.com...s/ornament.png
All garrison setups have been simulated at least 5000 times, using this simulator.
Even if I do the utmost to ensure that no errors occur anywhere, I am only human, and errors might always appear.
Thus, I do recommend that you double-check all setups in the simulator, especially before trying an attack the first time in a newly published setup.

All garrison setups where recruits and soldiers are included have a very small chance of one or a few soldiers being killed.
I prefer having it so tight, that in most cases that one soldier survives and actually might save one recruit by taking the last hits in the battle.
That being said, be prepared to lose the odd soldier(s) after playing the same adventure hundreds or thousands of times...

On the other hand, all garrison setups have also been made so that the risk of losing longbows or crossbows is next to negligible.
Due to this, some setups have more recruits/soldiers than what can be seen in other guides.
In some cases this will increase the maximum losses (of recruits), but save the rare occasion of losing crossbows.

thank you tage, nice garrison setups and explained block pictures as allways :)

On your island of the pirates veteran it states needed 233s but on the actual image there's no indication of 233s, max of 200. Have I missed something on the map ?

If you play without block you only need 200S. If you use block, you need block first camp with 53 soldiers and attack another camp 70R and 180S at same time. 53S+180S = 233S

Cheers Killste, I'll go for the 200s version, just wanted to confirm before I delve in.

Bravo :)

Killste, it still needs an easy identifier so that I can recommend it to other players without difficulty, to make it clear that you are not trying to claim undue credit for making the guides I suggest the title should be - "Killste : Collected Adventure Guides by Various Authors".

By the way, check camp numbers for camp 10 on vet & vet + xbows, shown as 8 atm.

Great new title Killste, where did you get such a brilliant idea ;-)

By the way, it looks as though you have mixed up the bandits in the block camps 2A - 2C in outlaws. I think that 2A has bandits for 2B; 2B has bandits for 2C: 2C has bandits for 2A.

We are adding new thread that we name "Collect of all adventure guides" or similar like that. And all how give us permission we link theyre tactical map in that thread. (We name this thread something else, after we post that new thread). I will consider that name, you suggested :)

Collecting all adventure guides here, means, people can post theyre tactical maps here, so is easy to me to add them in new thread, if they want to volunteer to our work and want to share those tactical maps.

What adventure did you mean? (traitors)

Ps. Tage since is your garrison setups, and I haven't test that, can you check it :)

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Originally Posted by Majikrider

By the way, check camp numbers for camp 10 on vet & vet + xbows, shown as 8 atm.

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Thanks Majikrider!
The erroneous eights have seen an increase of two... :)

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/7462/settlers10.jpg

Try my map for more detail without starting the adventure. Enjoy, Zothem.

Wich of the swamp

9. 40 Cultist, 120 Shadowsneaker, 1 Dark HighPriest. i have finished with 63R 11M 176S (63R 11M) max my losses was 63R and 7M

Great work everyone.
I want to suggest a few changes to The Dark Priests.

Here is my setup:
http://www.lanet.sk/tso/20120418_DP.png

The comments which are not in english...9RB - dind't try it yet, maybe next time ;) (it's pretty close, but I think it can be done) and the second one is that I used 134R instead of 131R according to the new calculations...I just wanted to be sure that one High Dark Priest is the only one left, so I could use 200A for 2nd wave.

Here are the pictures for blocking:

THNX Tage for the first one, I just changed the 1R with 30R for round blocking...so no losses, no recovering general at the start of the adventure.

UPDATE: I've just seen that Tage changed the 1R ;) with RB ... he used 17S and got better numbers for rounds 4-9 rounds of fighting, average 6.6 (I saw this 1R-block in SidV's adv. journal long time ago ;) )

http://www.lanet.sk/tso/20120418_DP_RB1.png

G1 - Red -> block ( Tavern) -> camp 5
G2 - Yelow -> G250 -> camp 6 when G1 is in or near red square (there is plenty of time in comparison to 1R block)

2nd block:
http://www.lanet.sk/tso/20120418_DP_RB2.png

G1 - Red -> block ( Tavern) -> camp 11
G2 - Yelow -> G250 -> camp 12 when G1 is already fighting camp 11 (again...there is plenty of time -> I've tried it 3-4 times myself and always with success)

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Originally Posted by Killste

thanks tage for your garrison setups. I will test block methods and edit in here after I succes or fail them

edit. BeerMonster has tested blocks method and those seems working fine. Thanks, saved me lots of time :)

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Hi, yesterday I've played Traitors with new map from Siedler Vision and it worked gr8.
I'm not gonna lie...I didn't believe it could work (especially the last one - I was already working to block 6+7 together, but doctor-bob was faster), but I had to try ;) here is my setup with a few changes:

http://www.lanet.sk/tso/Traitors.png

PS - I did use another general setup for the last attack, but I've lost the picture, so next time...

Thanks a lot, sk_setttler!!! :)

I have to admit that I also considered blocking those camps myself,
but discarded them, mainly due to the numerous rounds required to kill camp 11.
Besides, I didn't have a veteran general back then either.


These were the blocks I worked out for longest rounds back then (10,000 simulations):

6) 1R 193C {6 - 9.1 - 11 rounds}
7) 1R 118S {6 - 9.1 - 13 rounds}

9) 138S 62C {7 - 9.4 - 13 rounds}
10) 52S 148C {7 - 9.5 - 14 rounds}

I didn't calculate anything for elite soldiers, but this would give a somewhat longer battle on camp 9:

9) 121E 79C {7 - 10.1 - 14 rounds}


Looking forward to having some more blocking fun next time I play the Traitors :)